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September 19, 2021, 12:25:27 AM Merited by BobLawblaw (2) |
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"Trust the science", they say?
Well "the science" shows that a vaxxed and an unvaxxed person can carry and spread the CV19 virus equally just as well. And a vaxxed person can still contract the virus at a later point. In fact, there is a very good chance that a vaxxed person would likely contract the virus from another vaxxed "asymptomatic carrier" around them, who is more likely to break social distancing rules because of a false sense of trust and supposed minimal symptoms.
So if they feel protected, I'm still left wondering why the vaxxed care so fkn much about what the unvaxxed do again?
I've even seen a vaccinated person who claims to understand "the science" take a step back from someone who said "I had Covid, but I'm fine now because I have natural immunity!" Talk about fkn delusional behavior.
Pupils in here schools are tested three times a week. Positive pupils are home-quarantined if they are not vaxxed, the vaxxed ones are returning to their classrooms. By all means of science. What is telling you this? In essence: SARS-CoV-2 is no more something to be afraid of, it's something "we" (they) want (us) to have. With such high infection rates as with the Delta variant, mutation is mandatory, as well as if the vaccines keep 90% (decreasing over time) from severe symptoms, there will be a wave of fatalities mostly among unvaccinated, followed by a wave of vaccinated deads, because the spreading and mutation will finally be over 10x as high as of past times, with most cases low- or asymtomatic. EDIT: Let that sink in: The politicians that tell us they want to avoid another lockdown at all cost are basically driving us into the next one, with the help of their vaccination campaign. Sane minds still seem to be rare. Sorry, i did not get that first paragraph at all. In a very complex situation where there are both vaxxed and non-vaxxed and also those who had the virus "naturally" projections are difficult. My take would be that sooner or later everyone would have the "natural" covid IF the virus changes toward higher particle production (as Delta already did). In this situation having either a prior strain infection OR vaccine should be beneficial. If, however, there was no prior vaccination OR infection, Delta could be quite heavy. One thing, but just my personal opinion: if I ever get a boost, I would prefer it to be conventional (protein-based) vaccine...just in case. I am not concerned about RNA per se, but have a slight worry about producing antibodies against RNA (for reasons that are a bit too complex to discuss here). I know that they took measures to greatly diminish that chance, but with serial vaccinations..who knows.
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September 19, 2021, 04:01:25 AM |
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I also came here for a bit of a humanitarian request. A trusted friend, whom I met on these very forums, asked me to post something. He knows a very poor filipino family, through his fiance, and they currently have an infant who will certainly die without an expensive surgery: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5360407No pressure, of course, but if you'd like to contribute a little bit of your profits, the money will really be a big help to them. Update: we're now up to about $4,095 of the $10,500 goal!
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Vaccines dont require a signature. The smart thing to do, see what experts, scientists say about it and not the corrupt politician, or clowns like Fauci. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5349296.msg57466608#msg57466608![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FF52KT2H%2Ftemp.jpg&t=665&c=y-nXm8xJWobnlQ)
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September 19, 2021, 07:19:44 AM |
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Have you resolved the land dispute yet?
Survey company should have the documents ready for us to proceed with the case next week. It's taking much longer to resolve than I'd like, but we can't rush anything, given the formal nature of the dispute. We're looking good to win, and legitimately have a case for the Sherriff to come out if need-be. It's causing me a tremendous amount of aggravation, but construction continues regardless. Or are the lawyers eating funds faster than your ranch.
No. Lawyer is pretty chilled out, and wanting us to get the property built out ASAP, so he has a nice long range to shoot his .50 Cal at. Haha I like that, and your lawyer will be happy, its great to have space for a range. No doubt your neighbor will hate you in an inter generational feud. hope your recovery is complete soon. I look forward to the TV series
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September 19, 2021, 07:23:32 AM Last edit: September 19, 2021, 07:46:54 AM by bitebits |
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I am OK with people either taking or not taking the vaccine.
Think here we are getting to the core of the problem: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F6s1o42wvx3471.png&t=665&c=fPjaeawV2XDvHg) BTW, many covid vaccines are NOT mRNA based, so that argument (about gene therapy) in some countries is not even valid.
Talking about cores. The current other non-mRNA vaccines like AZ and J&J work similar. Like the mRNA ones they make your own cells produce spike proteins. They have an extra step compared to the mRNA vaccines though: DNA gets into the nucleus (cell core). The gene for the coronavirus spike protein then gets read by the cell and copied into mRNA. The mRNA leaves the nucleus, and the cell’s molecules read its sequence and begin assembling spike proteins (like the mRNA vaccines): The New York Times - How the Johnson & Johnson Vaccine WorksThe Novavax COVID-19 vaccine candidate for example grows the spike proteins in a lab, which might be interesting to explore in case you don't like the above still experimental stuff but eventually want a vaccine.
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Who could have thought so many woers/bitcoiners are in fact antivaxxers? Guys you do sound like you're from the 19th century. Science gave us BTC and so it gave us vaccines. No need to be afraid of science. Most of the poor antivaxxer guys have been brainwashed by the youtube videos and questionable news sites. Lots of people are going to die because of this. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) Wow "antivaxxers"? How were you in Bitcoin early if you are such a speak, obediently parotting the newspeak of the state media? No-one here is an anti-vaxxer (sic, as the retarded spelling is all yours) I hope. "We" are specifically against these vaccines because they are 1. Against a non-dangerous desease (comparable to a seasonal influenza outbreak) and 2. Insufficiently tested and rushed. You likely agree with this, or were you taking the yearly flu shot before? (unless you are weak of course). Furthermore, vaccinating the population during an active outbreak (which you advocate were in n'est-ce pas?) is a deadsin as any immunologist knows this stimulates virus to mutate and actually become dangerous. They all know this. If you don't believe me go read a random contingency plan for pandemics that predate Covid-19 (I can confirm the Brittish one explicitly states to not vaccinate during an active outbreak for this reason). If we follow this logic everything the government says is lie? So like they're lying 100% of the time? Omg man you're heading somewhere into the full retard revolution/anarchy direction like that. Pro vaccine ≠ pro government. I have my own opinion, I certainly don't listen and abide the media or government 100% of the time. This disease IS dangerous. If it's not dangerous for you think about people who are at risk. Remember the footage from Italy March 2020? All those army trucks loaded with coffins? Paid actors right? Insufficiently tested and rushed? Common misconception - mRNA has been around for DECADES! It's not a bleeding edge tech. Before you comment you could just read some articles on how mRNA and other Covid19 vaccines work. You can even find the source code of the vaccine (yes it's open source) and make sure it's harmless. And finally, quote: "No-one here is an anti-vaxxer (sic, as the retarded spelling is all yours) I hope. "We" are specifically against these vaccines". FFS, Mr Grammar Nazi, google the meaning of antivaxxer. Your statement is something like: "the grass is not green because it is". IQ below 10. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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FFS, Mr Grammar Nazi, google the meaning of antivaxxer. Your statement is something like: "the grass is not green because it is". IQ below 10. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) So ... the protected need protection from the unprotected by forcing the unprotected to take the protection that doesn't protect the protected? This from the people who used to call me stupid?
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September 19, 2021, 09:53:43 AM |
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So ... the protected need protection from the unprotected by forcing the unprotected to take the protection that doesn't protect the protected?
This from the people who used to call me stupid?
Yes, because the unprotected are filling up the hospital beds and people that need other procedures are being delayed. Not to mention the fact that no vaccine is 100% effective. Get the population to 90% vaccinated and this nightmare goes away.
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Populair or Not populair opinions….
Everyone should chose for there own, taking a vaccine or not taking it…
For me I’m not for the way how vaccines are been forced in a way, when I have had my first invitation letter it said like do you want the vaccine yes or no…. So imo at that time I have had a free choice and I took yes, bc on the first I thought if not now then later on it will be forced and life will get little more difficult and shit, 2nd my parents, brother, some good friends etc etc taking it to… So what if I was refusing it as I first wanted and in the end all the vacced people where bad of…. Then I would be sorry as well, now I’m on the same boat as most of the people I care for the most…
Then few of my very best friends refused and life getting hard for them, I wanted to make multi 1000 dollar bets with them, where is said you will be vacced before the first of March… they don’t take te bet bc they know the’ll getting the vaccine …. There is no way around for some of them like one is a gym teacher and a gym teacher in school, probably 2 jobs where a vacc pass will be needed….
I still hold my little satisfaction that I had a letter that said yes/no where I could chose what to take and not like my friends who are being forced one way or another cause of all restrictions
Am I happy with the vacc or how it’s been done … NO
Though do I think it’s mainly bad? Not either, I know a lot of good doctors where a lot of them support the vaccines as well….
Am most certainly no expert and just went for the way most around me did… if something bad happens … yeah then we are we a lot as well and I’m happy to join in with that group a people
Vacc no vacc etc Life goes on man….
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