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Muting your mic reportedly doesn’t stop big tech from recording your audio

https://thenextweb.com/news/muting-your-mic-doesnt-stop-big-tech-recording-your-audio

Why am I not surprised. I long suspected that video conferencing software would have this issue, especially with all the world's WFH employees now on Zoom or similar.

It's a feature, not a bug. Big brother is listening, and your company is likely spying on your muted utterances.  Roll Eyes

Wanna mute and call your boss an fkn asshole, or that flake co-worker a bitch, under your breath? Better think again.  Wink

Good info. Muting audio is easy enough, muting the mic from the OS more difficult. I wonder if there's an easier way than suggested in the article.


 You just have to keep it in a vacuum when not in use.

 

  and be mindful of material conduction of sound.  Maybe some sort of mag-lev system would be ideal.

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Using a blockchain while having a 51% attack advantage on said blockchain, is a contradiction in terms...


Sure thats a fair point...


I was just answering the "who pays" aspect, and before that the "why" aspect, and as I think I have shown the who and why and how are actually, upon looking , quite obvious.

The "who pays" question raises exactly this point. When those performing the security are monolithic in nature (either explicitly or by implication), you might as well use a private database.


Well the who pays ,  as stated in this case, are the multiple actors that will use the system.... firstly the HMLR themselves, then the actors that they interact with, and ultimately the paying clients that they serve, what they are doing is streamlining and decentralising the process somewhat , and moving away from a completely centralised , slow, leaky, fraud prone,  expensive, manpower hungry, system.

Also, the network, the private permissioned need to know only , network, that they are building, which will be supported by nodes, it will live on the R3 Corda "blockchain" which is really a DL.... which is then secured and maintained in its own right (and not maintained by the HMLR)

Is the Corda r3 DLT anything other than a DL, that allows for "decentralised databases"  , no.

It (corda) is not a permissionless network, it is nothing like BTC, it is not trying to be.

But it is precisely because they (HMLR)  need to have a non fully centralised system in place to achieve what they are trying to achieve that they have chosen to explore this route... and it is specifically a "private enterprise "blockchain"" they have decided to explore,  on a permissioned distributed ledger, because, the actors involved are carrying out private transactions, which are on a need to know basis only , which require immediate atomic,  deterministic immutable settlement.  Also worth noting, that due to the nature of the real estate transactions they will be recording, they have chosen a structure which will have legal standing which Corda provides.  

So they have decided that they certainly do not want to use a permisionless public blockchain, which indeed would perhaps be unsuitable for what they are trying to achieve.

Yes,  it is mundane, its not that revolutionary.. it ain't "property NFT's" , it ain't a fully decentralised public blockchain solution...

I still find it interesting...  



 
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Muting your mic reportedly doesn’t stop big tech from recording your audio

https://thenextweb.com/news/muting-your-mic-doesnt-stop-big-tech-recording-your-audio

Why am I not surprised. I long suspected that video conferencing software would have this issue, especially with all the world's WFH employees now on Zoom or similar.

It's a feature, not a bug. Big brother is listening, and your company is likely spying on your muted utterances.  Roll Eyes

Wanna mute and call your boss an fkn asshole, or that flake co-worker a bitch, under your breath? Better think again.  Wink

Good info. Muting audio is easy enough, muting the mic from the OS more difficult. I wonder if there's an easier way than suggested in the article.

 You just have to keep it in a vacuum when not in use.

 

  and be mindful of material conduction of sound.  Maybe some sort of mag-lev system would be ideal.


or may be sit in the vacuum in the first place Smiley

or how about this?



 
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Muting your mic reportedly doesn’t stop big tech from recording your audio

https://thenextweb.com/news/muting-your-mic-doesnt-stop-big-tech-recording-your-audio

Why am I not surprised. I long suspected that video conferencing software would have this issue, especially with all the world's WFH employees now on Zoom or similar.

It's a feature, not a bug. Big brother is listening, and your company is likely spying on your muted utterances.  Roll Eyes

Wanna mute and call your boss an fkn asshole, or that flake co-worker a bitch, under your breath? Better think again.  Wink

Good info. Muting audio is easy enough, muting the mic from the OS more difficult. I wonder if there's an easier way than suggested in the article.

Buy a laptop with hardware kill switches to physically disconnect the camera and mic.

https://puri.sm/products/librem-14/

Librem 14 from purism

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hardware kill switches to physically disconnect the camera and mic (including the headphone jack mic) or wireless and Bluetooth

It's also got a disabled Intel Management engine.

There' a serious bug in it that puts 100s of different computer models at risk.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/intel-me-bug-storm-is-your-machine-among-100s-just-named-by-acer-dell-hp-lenovo/

If any WFH employee is supplied by their corporation a free company laptop, desktop, or VPN terminal to do work with, then *guaranteed* it is already compromised with spyware, keylogger, video logger, audio logger, remote kill switch, etc.

Without a doubt.
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Italy, the land formerly known for good, healthy, unprocessed food!



Did you think my hat was only a meme?

PS: No, bitcoin still not accepted. 
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Happy Easter WO Gang!
Italy, the land formerly known for good, healthy, unprocessed food!



Did you think my hat was only a meme?

PS: No, bitcoin still not accepted. 


Happy Easter!


Is it busy? I have seen more and more of these pop up, and manage to stay open in Spain, they used to open them, and then close them again because they did not get much business.  Now in city centres they have managed to keep some open, and they are mainly full of kids or tourists though (why would you go to spain, or Italy as a tourist and eat MacDonalds?)   


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Avoid chicken if you can.

The chicken you are eating has increased 364% in size over the last 50 years.

Here is what this means for your health.

THREAD: https://twitter.com/mrsollozzo/status/1515324097223225345?s=21

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OT:

Avoid chicken if you can.

The chicken you are eating has increased 364% in size over the last 50 years.

Here is what this means for your health.

THREAD: https://twitter.com/mrsollozzo/status/1515324097223225345?s=21



No worries here in the U.S. ....we are too busy "culling" millions of chickens due a sudden, unexpected (*cough* plandemic) bird flu outbreak. Causing chicken and egg prices to skyrocket (but not due to insane inflation and farmers going bankrupt, no no, can't be that).  Roll Eyes

https://scitechdaily.com/us-bird-flu-outbreak-is-killing-millions-of-chickens-and-turkeys/

Nothing to see here, move along.
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The chicken you are eating has increased 364% in size over the last 50 years.

Here is what this means for your health.

THREAD: https://twitter.com/mrsollozzo/status/1515324097223225345?s=21




True story... some of the tastiest chicken I have ever eaten, was in Thailand, and they looked far far more like the 1957 chicken in the picture above...  running around one minute , then snap, pluck, cook... tasty as fuck.
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We provide brand new antminer for bitcoin and orther cryto currency only one address probablyascam.com

So You want to sell antminer on the Wall observer thread with a brand new account?


I think most people here know better, but for those who do not it bears repeating that anyone who is interested in buying mining hardware off some sketchy site from some shady newbie account is just begging to fall victim to spyware/malware.

Remember, there are people here hunting for suckers. And they will scam you if they can, of your passwords, private keys and coins. Don't be a fool, Stay safe.

This kind of nonsense is because you kids are not used to the old ways of using cash on delivery. You pay an extra 5 bucks or how much they ask of you for this 'pay on delivery' method, and also you get to open the package before you pay them anything. If you did not get your stuff, they have to return their empty box full of used tampons.  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes

Well not sure how Cash on Delivery works in many place but based on my experience in few different places, once the package reaches your home you have to pay for it. Before you open or even evaluate and if you want to reject the receiving, still the delivery person or company will insist on taking the package, do the payment and then start the refund process.

The delivery company or person won’t take any responsibility for the package or what’s inside the package. Once they deliver you have to pay for it.

Never heard of that law (or responsibility of a receiver of an item..).

My understanding is that if you receive something that you had not paid for it is yours.

In other words, you better make sure that you receive payment before shipping something.. otherwise you may well be shit out of luck.

Sure a lot of people return things that they had received and not paid for, but I doubt that the law requires them to do it, especially if they had not requested it, and it just shows up at their door.  Seems to me that if you have not requested something and it gets shipped to you, then you may as well consider it to be a gift....
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There is no such thing as a “useful NFT”.
Read Torgue’s & Richy’s comments on that, again.

I wouldn't go so far as to say that there couldn't be a 'useful' NFT, just that as when I saw Vitalik talking about smart contracts back in chicago many years ago, I think the potential use cases are a lot narrower than is being hyped. (The whole "buying hashes of pictures you don't own" is obviously complete BS though, of course).
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Happy Easter WO Gang!
Italy, the land formerly known for good, healthy, unprocessed food!



Did you think my hat was only a meme?

PS: No, bitcoin still not accepted. 

You mean ground beef, tomatosauce, cheese and pasta in a mix of your choise? Smiley

Sorry, couldn't resist, have a good easter!
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Is it busy? I have seen more and more of these pop up, and manage to stay open in Spain, they used to open them, and then close them again because they did not get much business.  Now in city centres they have managed to keep some open, and they are mainly full of kids or tourists though (why would you go to spain, or Italy as a tourist and eat MacDonalds?)   


When I was in Paris a good few years ago, there was a McDs near the arc that seemed to be quite busy. They've been all over the UK for donkey's years, of course.
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There is no such thing as a “useful NFT”.
Read Torgue’s & Richy’s comments on that, again.

I wouldn't go so far as to say that there couldn't be a 'useful' NFT, just that as when I saw Vitalik talking about smart contracts back in chicago many years ago, I think the potential use cases are a lot narrower than is being hyped. (The whole "buying hashes of pictures you don't own" is obviously complete BS though, of course).

I have no doubt that NFTs will be a big deal component of the upcoming Metaverse, or any other VR world coming soon. They are already planting the seeds and hype.

Since the young folks of the future won't have the means to own real world things of true value anymore, once they have convinced the pleebs that "owning" something in the Metaverse has supposed value, that's all she wrote. They'll all be clamoring for it: VR cars, VR yachts, VR real estate, VR clothes & jewelry, VR art pieces, VR vacations, etc., etc.

Hell, I could even see them creating a secondary stonk market that trades stonks of virtual companies and resources that exist only in the Metaverse. Probably somehow using the Ethereum scamchain.

Sound crazy? If I can sit here and dream up the absurd and insane, then I'm sure the scammers are already cooking it up as we speak and salivating. The scammers being Meta, Google, Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, Nike, Coca-Cola, etc.

Real world things of value only for the elites to enjoy; VR goods only for the pleebs.
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We provide brand new antminer for bitcoin and orther cryto currency only one address probablyascam.com

So You want to sell antminer on the Wall observer thread with a brand new account?


I think most people here know better, but for those who do not it bears repeating that anyone who is interested in buying mining hardware off some sketchy site from some shady newbie account is just begging to fall victim to spyware/malware.

Remember, there are people here hunting for suckers. And they will scam you if they can, of your passwords, private keys and coins. Don't be a fool, Stay safe.

This kind of nonsense is because you kids are not used to the old ways of using cash on delivery. You pay an extra 5 bucks or how much they ask of you for this 'pay on delivery' method, and also you get to open the package before you pay them anything. If you did not get your stuff, they have to return their empty box full of used tampons.  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes

Well not sure how Cash on Delivery works in many place but based on my experience in few different places, once the package reaches your home you have to pay for it. Before you open or even evaluate and if you want to reject the receiving, still the delivery person or company will insist on taking the package, do the payment and then start the refund process.

The delivery company or person won’t take any responsibility for the package or what’s inside the package. Once they deliver you have to pay for it.

Never heard of that law (or responsibility of a receiver of an item..).

My understanding is that if you receive something that you had not paid for it is yours.

In other words, you better make sure that you receive payment before shipping something.. otherwise you may well be shit out of luck.

Sure a lot of people return things that they had received and not paid for, but I doubt that the law requires them to do it, especially if they had not requested it, and it just shows up at their door.  Seems to me that if you have not requested something and it gets shipped to you, then you may as well consider it to be a gift....

But we are talking about Cash on Delivery… so if it shows up on you door you have to pay first before you get this “gift”.

And from the senders perspective, I guess that’s where the delivery companies comes and make sure for sender that they get paid. In the end receiver is in disadvantage if the delivery is not up to his expectations since the refund process can really be pain in the a**.
 

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We provide brand new antminer for bitcoin and orther cryto currency only one address probablyascam.com

So You want to sell antminer on the Wall observer thread with a brand new account?


I think most people here know better, but for those who do not it bears repeating that anyone who is interested in buying mining hardware off some sketchy site from some shady newbie account is just begging to fall victim to spyware/malware.

Remember, there are people here hunting for suckers. And they will scam you if they can, of your passwords, private keys and coins. Don't be a fool, Stay safe.

This kind of nonsense is because you kids are not used to the old ways of using cash on delivery. You pay an extra 5 bucks or how much they ask of you for this 'pay on delivery' method, and also you get to open the package before you pay them anything. If you did not get your stuff, they have to return their empty box full of used tampons.  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes

Well not sure how Cash on Delivery works in many place but based on my experience in few different places, once the package reaches your home you have to pay for it. Before you open or even evaluate and if you want to reject the receiving, still the delivery person or company will insist on taking the package, do the payment and then start the refund process.

The delivery company or person won’t take any responsibility for the package or what’s inside the package. Once they deliver you have to pay for it.

Never heard of that law (or responsibility of a receiver of an item..).

My understanding is that if you receive something that you had not paid for it is yours.

In other words, you better make sure that you receive payment before shipping something.. otherwise you may well be shit out of luck.

Sure a lot of people return things that they had received and not paid for, but I doubt that the law requires them to do it, especially if they had not requested it, and it just shows up at their door.  Seems to me that if you have not requested something and it gets shipped to you, then you may as well consider it to be a gift....

But we are talking about Cash on Delivery… so if it shows up on you door you have to pay first before you get this “gift”.

And from the senders perspective, I guess that’s where the delivery companies comes and make sure for sender that they get paid. In the end receiver is in disadvantage if the delivery is not up to his expectations since the refund process can really be pain in the a**.
 



That's why you put them to open your box and show what is inside the box!  Cheesy  Cheesy
And if not, you say you don't give any money or you don't have money. And they have to take it back and you give them nothing.  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes

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We provide brand new antminer for bitcoin and orther cryto currency only one address probablyascam.com

So You want to sell antminer on the Wall observer thread with a brand new account?


I think most people here know better, but for those who do not it bears repeating that anyone who is interested in buying mining hardware off some sketchy site from some shady newbie account is just begging to fall victim to spyware/malware.

Remember, there are people here hunting for suckers. And they will scam you if they can, of your passwords, private keys and coins. Don't be a fool, Stay safe.

This kind of nonsense is because you kids are not used to the old ways of using cash on delivery. You pay an extra 5 bucks or how much they ask of you for this 'pay on delivery' method, and also you get to open the package before you pay them anything. If you did not get your stuff, they have to return their empty box full of used tampons.  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes

Well not sure how Cash on Delivery works in many place but based on my experience in few different places, once the package reaches your home you have to pay for it. Before you open or even evaluate and if you want to reject the receiving, still the delivery person or company will insist on taking the package, do the payment and then start the refund process.

The delivery company or person won’t take any responsibility for the package or what’s inside the package. Once they deliver you have to pay for it.

Never heard of that law (or responsibility of a receiver of an item..).

My understanding is that if you receive something that you had not paid for it is yours.

In other words, you better make sure that you receive payment before shipping something.. otherwise you may well be shit out of luck.

Sure a lot of people return things that they had received and not paid for, but I doubt that the law requires them to do it, especially if they had not requested it, and it just shows up at their door.  Seems to me that if you have not requested something and it gets shipped to you, then you may as well consider it to be a gift....

But we are talking about Cash on Delivery… so if it shows up on you door you have to pay first before you get this “gift”.

And from the senders perspective, I guess that’s where the delivery companies comes and make sure for sender that they get paid. In the end receiver is in disadvantage if the delivery is not up to his expectations since the refund process can really be pain in the a**.
 



That's why you put them to open your box and show what is inside the box!  Cheesy  Cheesy
And if not, you say you don't give any money or you don't have money. And they have to take it back and you give them nothing.  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes


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