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Russian lines continue to collapse in eastern and southern Ukraine. Smiley
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Crimea will always be Russian and will never be American. Period.


You will always live in an age that has well passed. From that view your russian garbage ist quite understandable.
Same like with the Nazis.They are living in past times of the Great German Reich. Russian nationalists are just the eastern equivalent, and the fact that you can't see this, gives it a touch of serious mental illness.

Good riddance  Grin

EDIT: And speaking of America... Following your russian argumentation, your claimed "Americans" can't exist, with the exception of descendants of american natives.
Regardless how you look at it, your garbage makes no sense, really. You were mislead and miseducated by the soviets, to live in that bubble of "Great Russia", while they were stealing your wealth.
Poor becoin, i feel fucking sorry for you.


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Russian lines continue to collapse in eastern and southern Ukraine. Smiley
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Crimea will always be Russian and will never be American. Period.


Did you find distinguishing appeasement as a pro-Putin keyboard warrior or fled the country like all those ~700,000 comrads avoiding beeing used as cannon fodder?

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Russian lines continue to collapse in eastern and southern Ukraine. Smiley
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Crimea will always be Russian and will never be American. Period.


Did you find distinguishing appeasement as a pro-Putin keyboard warrior or fled the country like all those ~700,000 comrads avoiding beeing used as cannon fodder?


Zelensky's army is advancing while Russia is increasing its territory. It's a win-win situation. Everybody should be happy.
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An oil subsidiary in Argentina has been mining Bitcoin with the remaining gas they have. This means they are still very fond of Bitcoin and know that Bitcoin is also part of a bright future apart from the Oil they drill every day. Hopefully more people can save Bitcoin so that the price can be much more expensive than last year's ATH.

There are people who think that bitcoin is a scam but still invest in bitcoin. Believing in something and use something to earn money is two different things. They are mining BTC that doesn't mean they love bitcoin. They just making use of their extra energy source to get some profits. I do not know they will sell bitcoin or hold them for the future but most most of the time bitcoin miners sell of their btc to bear mining expenses or books profits.

For sure there is truth in the assertion that using bitcoin or being involved in bitcoin neither assures knowledge or bullishness about bitcoin, yet I take issue with your assertion that "most of the time" bitcoin miners sell their BTC - even though they do need to perform calculations regarding how much BTC to hold and to consider how much speculation that they can do in regards to how much they might feel that they are already "invested in BTC" merely because they have a business built around picks and shovels (rather than the asset itself).  So, in that regard, miners will likely need to make sure that their business is sustainable before they get too caught up upon speculating in ways that might end up jeopardizing the survivability of their business.

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I do not know they will sell bitcoin or hold them for the future but most most of the time bitcoin miners sell of their btc to bear mining expenses or books profits.
Every halving mining reward decreases by half, that is why we have 4 year cycles of bitcoin bear and bull. But some people can't hold the full cycle. For example I sold bitcoins in 2015. That was one of my worst mistakes in the whole life.

I do agree with the idea that getting through your first whole cycle can be amongst the most challenging because you are likely to be in the process of still learning about bitcoin and also learning about how your particular financial/psychological situation fits with bitcoin as part of your investment (or use case) thesis.  

Based on your not giving us very many facts to work with, we will have to take you at your word in regards to your assessment that selling bitcoin in 2015 was amongst the worst of your life mistakes.. sometimes we might be a bit unrealistic if we are overly beating ourselves after looking retrospectively at what we did (based on information that we then had) and what we believe that we should have done (based on information that we currently have).  Sure we can learn from past mistakes, but isn't there also a presumption that we are acting in our best interests based on information that we then have.. and yeah, we make mistakes and hopefully learn the right lessons... because we are never going to be in that exact situation again because neither the water nor the bridge is the same when it flows through on the next time around.

Some people are able to get some pretty decent ideas regarding why they are in bitcoin and to figure out their balances after a whole cycle, but still some people need more time to stop themselves from waffling - or to figure out their level of investment aggressiveness if they might still be accumulating wealth or if they might consider that they have advanced into some kind of a more stable maintenance stage.

Don't get me wrong, even the accumulation stage could involve a lot of solidness if the investor has a some pretty decent sets of ideas regarding why they are in bitcoin in the first place.  And, don't get me wrong, even if someone might advance past accumulation stage into maintenance stage and even get into some kind of liquidation stage, the dilemmas are not likely to completely disappear because many of us would prefer to have some kind of maximization of profits - and we get tempted when we see material (and lifestyle) wealth of other people, and might get tempted into wanting some kind of material/lifestyle wealth that we had not previously considered that we wanted**.. that is if we are able to get past the mere comfort status of not having to worry about basic needs and dealing with challenges that the macro circumstances might throw our way.

**Biodom's below post from yesterday can surely serve as an example of a kind of opulence that requires at least a Billion in wealth to get there and to sustain something like that..

"The One"..."most expensive" house in US...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEJO5s29Ahc
Who knows, maybe someone who "ate" LUNA can afford it, lol.

Maybe a first block of a future Citadel....eventually.

BTW, seller/developer claimed it to be worth $500 mil, then tried to get $295 mil, end up selling for $126 mil+12% commish ($141 mil).


Every halving mining reward decreases by half, that is why we have 4 year cycles of bitcoin bear and bull. But some people can't hold the full cycle. For example I sold bitcoins in 2015. That was one of my worst mistakes in the whole life.
So you sold Bitcoin when it was worth between $200 and $300, but the question is when you bought it, so did you make a profit or did you sell at a loss? However, you had a lot of time to buy Bitcoin again, because during 2016 it cost only about $400, and at the beginning of 2017 it was about $1000, and during 2018 it dropped again close to $3000.

One full cycle is not a problem, 2 or 3 are a real challenge Wink

I am not totally disagreeing with you Lucius because it is likely true that a decent number of people will continue to attempt to live at the extremes of their limitations and even beyond their means and continue to contribute to their ongoing drama and needs to sustain the standard of living in which they have grown accustom, and maybe it is a bit of a "baller" mentality, which has not been my investment and/or lifestyle approach - and it is likely true that even a baller approach could end up generating some additional value.... but such a lifestyle might not be for everyone.

My overall presumption has been that the longer that any of us are in bitcoin, the more likely that we should be able to get our shit in order and to be able to handle more and more of BTC's almost inevitable ongoing volatility.
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you are totally in for the tec, aren't you?

It will be great if you explain the what is meant by Tec as I can't reply on a words, which is totally out of my knowing...
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you are totally in for the tec, aren't you?

It will be great if you explain the what is meant by Tec as I can't reply on a words, which is totally out of my knowing...

TEChnology, my dear.

EDIT: Grumpy eve, i wonder why...
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Russian lines continue to collapse in eastern and southern Ukraine. Smiley
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I Don't care . Fuck all the war mongering arseholes
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Russian lines continue to collapse in eastern and southern Ukraine. Smiley
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Crimea will always be Russian and will never be American. Period.


I Don't care . Fuck all the war mongering arseholes

He's just a pathetic guy suffering from GRS (Great Russia Syndrome).

EDIT: War is just the outcome of missing sanity. This fucking ego. Someday we will  finally comprehend that our greatest enemy is inside ourselves.
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You know what, i tried to be unbiased in this conflict at the beginning.
Now that it's very clear to me since some months, THIS Russia needs to be stopped. Forever.

The regime acts like a rapist trying to explain that it was the women's fault.
Pathetic in essence.
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You know what, i tried to be unbiased in this conflict at the beginning.
Now that it's very clear to me since some months, THIS Russia needs to be stopped. Forever.

The regime acts like a rapist trying to explain that it was the women's fault.
Pathetic in essence.

Russia failed everytime. Don't know what still want, But needs to be stopped.
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You know what, i tried to be unbiased in this conflict at the beginning.
Now that it's very clear to me since some months, THIS Russia needs to be stopped. Forever.

The regime acts like a rapist trying to explain that it was the women's fault.
Pathetic in essence.

Russia failed everytime. Don't know what still want, But needs to be stopped.

They want to show the world how great they really are. They think the Sovjet Union was a great thing, and that it would be a good idea to fortify the world with its inclusive reincarnation.
Clearly degenerates. There are sane russian folks, but they are a suppressed minority, anxiously quiet in existence or living abroad.
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Every halving mining reward decreases by half, that is why we have 4 year cycles of bitcoin bear and bull. But some people can't hold the full cycle. For example I sold bitcoins in 2015. That was one of my worst mistakes in the whole life.
So you sold Bitcoin when it was worth between $200 and $300, but the question is when you bought it, so did you make a profit or did you sell at a loss? However, you had a lot of time to buy Bitcoin again, because during 2016 it cost only about $400, and at the beginning of 2017 it was about $1000, and during 2018 it dropped again close to $3000.

One full cycle is not a problem, 2 or 3 are a real challenge Wink
i beg to differ. the 1st cycle is the most fun one to panic through. the rest are easy after that.
the following cycles have their hardship as well though, because the $ value of your coins is 10x - 100x more than in the previous cycle.  
and it sure hurts more to go down millions compared to thousands in a bear.  I know 1BTC=1BTC, but still

Oh wow!!!!!  You have that much?   Shocked Shocked Shocked  I only have somewhere above 0.63 BTC.. I am not sure if I am willing to concede much more beyond that, even though the latest dippening, in spite of some of the suffering along the way, did seem to help to build my BTC stash.  I understand that it is likely that you had been speaking hypothetically when you started to get into the actual numbers.

"The One"..."most expensive" house in US...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEJO5s29Ahc
Who knows, maybe someone who "ate" LUNA can afford it, lol.

Maybe a first block of a future Citadel....eventually.

BTW, seller/developer claimed it to be worth $500 mil, then tried to get $295 mil, end up selling for $126 mil+12% commish ($141 mil).
way too many 90° angles and sharp corners..

the architecture is boring af

It has the feeling of a hotel, no?  Does not seem too warm and cozy in a kind of homie way... but what would I know?  I am not used to 25 foot ceilings inside of "residential" housing, and just getting from one location to the next seems like a long distance to travel.. I like to have my office, bathroom, food and even sleeping within seconds walk of each other.. sure maybe a minute of walking would be o.k... or a change of scenery would be nice from time to time too.. and sure portions of the home could be set up like that, but I would likely spend my time in one corner or another corner.. and I would need to make way more friends just to be able to feel like I am using the space...

even if I were to have a $billion, I could not see myself living in a place like that.. but maybe net worth might need to be $10 billion or more.. can you imagine the burn rate, even after purchasing?  Maybe the burn rate would be $20 to $50 million per year to pay for staff and maintenance.. and maybe there would be ways that money could be generated from it so it pays for itself?  I am not sure.. I am not creative enough in my thinking (let's stay grounded.. not going to get anything like that, anyhow.. right?  right?  rrrrrrrrriiiigggggggggtttt?).
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You know what, i tried to be unbiased in this conflict at the beginning.
Now that it's very clear to me since some months, THIS Russia needs to be stopped. Forever.

The regime acts like a rapist trying to explain that it was the women's fault.
Pathetic in essence.

Russia failed everytime. Don't know what still want, But needs to be stopped.

They want to show the world how great they really are. They think the Sovjet Union was a great thing, and that it would be a good idea to fortify the world with its inclusive reincarnation.
Clearly degenerates. There are sane russian folks, but they are a suppressed minority, anxiously quiet in existence or living abroad.
The world...! Access to the world is impossible. They didn't defeat the Ukraine yet. How they will show greatness to the world. They can never climb the tree, which they are thinking about.

Grapes are sour
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You know what, i tried to be unbiased in this conflict at the beginning.
Now that it's very clear to me since some months, THIS Russia needs to be stopped. Forever.

The regime acts like a rapist trying to explain that it was the women's fault.
Pathetic in essence.

Russia failed everytime. Don't know what still want, But needs to be stopped.

They want to show the world how great they really are. They think the Sovjet Union was a great thing, and that it would be a good idea to fortify the world with its inclusive reincarnation.
Clearly degenerates. There are sane russian folks, but they are a suppressed minority, anxiously quiet in existence or living abroad.
The world...! Access to the world is impossible. They didn't defeat the Ukraine yet. How they will show greatness to the world. They can never climb the tree, which they are thinking about.

Grapes are sour

That's the result of living in illusions.
"The Great Russian Bubble" alias "Too great to fail"  Roll Eyes
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