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November 09, 2022, 10:13:49 PM

I will watch this for a while. Too often I jumped in too early, thinking bottom is in. Last time happened at 25k. I saw an interesting video on Tik Tok where the maker of the video showed that the bottom was in twice the day after midterm elections. 2014 and 2018. But this time the situation seems different. We will see.

yeah it may be by thanksgiving we will be thankful.
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November 09, 2022, 10:19:45 PM
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Lots of us gladly buying this dip, sowing seeds for generational profits in 3 or more years. Some here will be in a bad way, having not sold any in 2021 & struggling to pay bills etc due to the current climate.

We all enjoy a good laugh, ‘who gon’ mindrust’ but this is real life. Just keep HODLING, do not sell in panic. We are going to $150,000 or more in 2025. Please don’t panic, lots of us have been in this situation in previous bear markets. It’ll be fine, relax, turn the screen off & get away from charts. Bitcoin will recover & reach new ath’s.

If anybody is in a bad place & needs to talk, feel free to PM me.
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November 09, 2022, 10:28:33 PM

If anybody is in a bad place & needs to talk, feel free to PM me.
Any idea how much lower it may go?
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I see we have a new proudhon here. Or did he change his username?
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November 09, 2022, 10:37:01 PM
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If anybody is in a bad place & needs to talk, feel free to PM me.
Any idea how much lower it may go?

I don’t see us going below $10,000.
Maybe final capitulation wick to $12,000 - $14,000 & then slow recovery to $20,000 within 6 months. Probably track low $20,000’s sideways until the halving then.

No fireworks until 2025, we are in a recession. Average Joe can’t afford to put fuel in his car & food on the table due to the cost of living, recession due to the plandemic fall out.

Still, $150,000+ in late 2025.

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November 09, 2022, 10:37:26 PM
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Any idea how much lower it may go?

well it cant go below zero right?

right??

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I see we have a new proudhon here. Or did he change his username?

Yeah, I usually like to read everything in the WO thread but I had to put that idiot on ignore.
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Lots of us gladly buying this dip, sowing seeds for generational profits in 3 or more years. Some here will be in a bad way, having not sold any in 2021 & struggling to pay bills etc due to the current climate.

We all enjoy a good laugh, ‘who gon’ mindrust’ but this is real life. Just keep HODLING, do not sell in panic. We are going to $150,000 or more in 2025. Please don’t panic, lots of us have been in this situation in previous bear markets. It’ll be fine, relax, turn the screen off & get away from charts. Bitcoin will recover & reach new ath’s.

If anybody is in a bad place & needs to talk, feel free to PM me.

I am not in a bad place, but 2018-2022 were disappointing despite a few successes.
As I said before, wall street would now give up on this as i don't see how they would soldier on since they trusted at least one guy (SBF) and he f-d them over.
A premier VC fund, Sequoia, invested half a bil in FTX at 32bil valuation. These kind of disasters are not easily forgotten in Silicon valley and elsewhere.
Same for regulators, which will hark back to us (regular folks) in various restrictions of trade and investments.
Regarding a 150K number-barring a minor miracle I now cannot imagine it happening in 2025.
Turns out, "crypto" is a perfect venue for stealing (or losing) customer funds. Who would have guessed?
That would leave a mark for, say, 7-8 years or so (until 2028-2030) as it was during the Internet bubble (took AMZN until 2007-2008 to fully recover from the Internet crash).

That is all very sad on the balance, because I believe that without a development of a parallel financial system (based, hopefully, on bitcoin), the current one has no chance of surviving long term (the debts are just too high).
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November 09, 2022, 10:58:45 PM
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I really hope you guys aren't going all in on buying the current dip. We might go lower! Rarely get Bitcoin this cheap....

My BTC transaction has been stuck for 7 hours now. Thats what I call congestion.
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November 09, 2022, 11:07:26 PM

Lots of us gladly buying this dip, sowing seeds for generational profits in 3 or more years. Some here will be in a bad way, having not sold any in 2021 & struggling to pay bills etc due to the current climate.

We all enjoy a good laugh, ‘who gon’ mindrust’ but this is real life. Just keep HODLING, do not sell in panic. We are going to $150,000 or more in 2025. Please don’t panic, lots of us have been in this situation in previous bear markets. It’ll be fine, relax, turn the screen off & get away from charts. Bitcoin will recover & reach new ath’s.

If anybody is in a bad place & needs to talk, feel free to PM me.

I am not in a bad place, but 2018-2022 were disappointing despite a few successes.
As I said before, wall street would now give up on this as i don't see how they would soldier on since they trusted at least one guy (SBF) and he f-d them over.
A premier VC fund, Sequoia, invested half a bil in FTX at 32bil valuation. These kind of disasters are not easily forgotten in Silicon valley and elsewhere.
Same for regulators, which will hark back to us (regular folks) in various restrictions of trade and investments.
Regarding a 150K number-barring a minor miracle I now cannot imagine it happening in 2025.
Turns out, "crypto" is a perfect venue for stealing (or losing) customer funds. Who would have guessed?
That would leave a mark for, say, 7-8 years or so (until 2028-2030) as it was during the Internet bubble (took AMZN until 2007-2008 to fully recover from the Internet crash).

That is all very sad on the balance, because I believe that without a development of a parallel financial system (based, hopefully, on bitcoin), the current one has no chance of surviving long term (the debts are just too high).

the clue was i bonds giving a venue for easy peasy high safe interest. lead with them. then raise rates over and over and over and over and over.

lets say your 401 fed tsp(like a 401k) is all in bonds dead safe. perfect match to the usd.
it was paying 1% nov 2021
it is paying 4% nov 2022

so your million  usd worth now earns 40k not 10k

plus the fed has said +.5 and + .5 so mext year tha 401k fund makes 50k a year.

this does a flight that many do not understand how big it can be.

if you had an ira privately you can move it to your fed 401tsp.

so why have a crypto based ira when a shift to your fed 401tsp is safe at 4% and going to 5% as promised by the fed.

there is more.
my dementia riddled bro in law has two long term care polices he has good coverage.

but both genworth and john hancock were at high risk to go under based on dec 2021 bankruptcy predecitions. which i mentioned in these thread less than a month ago.

they are now flush due to bonds paying way way way higher in the time from dec 2021 to nov 2022

so a flight to safety of the dollatpr and us bonds was created. resulting  the crash.

match this back to luna crap in april 2022 when a stable coin was crushed by the huge i bond rate of 9.62%

this is not ending til the 2025 pres gets in. better not be biden.

Biden held his own in midterms elections so the crash and burn it all game will continue on.

god help us all.  except my bro-in-law as the feds helped his two insurances so he will be richer then most of us but bat fuck crazy.

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well enoguh for now I will check prices and long to buy again.
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November 09, 2022, 11:15:52 PM
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Lots of us gladly buying this dip, sowing seeds for generational profits in 3 or more years. Some here will be in a bad way, having not sold any in 2021 & struggling to pay bills etc due to the current climate.

We all enjoy a good laugh, ‘who gon’ mindrust’ but this is real life. Just keep HODLING, do not sell in panic. We are going to $150,000 or more in 2025. Please don’t panic, lots of us have been in this situation in previous bear markets. It’ll be fine, relax, turn the screen off & get away from charts. Bitcoin will recover & reach new ath’s.

If anybody is in a bad place & needs to talk, feel free to PM me.

Why this thread is so great?
Wall observing? Sure
Sarcasm and lateral humor? Absolutely.
Dick pics? Not so much
We are fam. We stick to this forum out of the 2010 internet because of messages like this one. A chap helping others to settle their shit because we all have been through this.
#nohomo.
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SBF reported missing and presumed to be evading authorities.

Time to pop some corn, gentlemen.
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SBF reported missing and presumed to be evading authorities.

Time to pop some corn, gentlemen.

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November 09, 2022, 11:28:31 PM

are we poor once again?

no we are not yet at bottom. 16k to fall very soon.


those 13-14 numbers seem more and more likely to happen.

BTW they would represent the redline line of a 5 cent power miner with top of the line gear.

We did go this low in fall of 2018.

be ready for more lows this week.


Thanks philipma. I am more than prepared for more pains. this is my 1.5 bear(shit) market . At least I know where my salary is going to during this environment … stacking Sats. For sure.
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Ridiculous. One retarded exchange goes under and this? Too much speculation again.
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Ridiculous. One retarded exchange goes under and this? Too much speculation again.

yeah the stable coins issued by any exchange are simply completely fucked up and used to attack pow btc over and over and over.

repeat why would any usa citizen want a stable coin over an I bond.

if you understand how to use I bonds they have been killer investment since nov 2021.

nov 2021 7.1%
April 2022 9.6 %
nov 2022  6.89%

you can buy 15k worth if you know what you are doing and stagger them in case you need cash.

so from nov 21 to oct 28 2023. you could have 7.1% to 6.89% on the most perfectly pegged usd coin there is. USD itself in the I bond.

45k in over a 2 year time slot that will pull around 7.4% juice on it.

this is crushing crypto stable coins.  Which are crushing btc.

good thing is it will be over soon. maybe jan-march and we should be done.

DCA boys and girls.
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Ridiculous. One retarded exchange goes under and this? Too much speculation again.

yeah the stable coins issued by any exchange are simply completely fucked up and used to attack pow btc over and over and over.

repeat why would any usa citizen want a stable coin over an I bond.

if you understand how to use I bonds they have been killer investment since nov 2021.

nov 2021 7.1%
April 2022 9.6 %
nov 2022  6.89%

you can buy 15k worth if you know what you are doing and stagger them in case you need cash.

so from nov 21 to oct 28 2023. you could have 7.1% to 6.89% on the most perfectly pegged usd coin there is. USD itself in the I bond.

45k in over a 2 year time slot that will pull around 7.4% juice on it.

this is crushing crypto stable coins.  Which are crushing btc.

good thing is it will be over soon. maybe jan-march and we should be done.

DCA boys and girls.

seriously, could you stop plugging the ibond here, eh, on a f-g bitcoin thread?
first off, it is only 10K/year and second, you have to wait more than a year to collect that interest; you are losing 3 mo worth of interest if you collect yearly.

why people want stables: to reinvest in "crypto" on the swing, of course. Nobody uses them for true savings.
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