Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

[JimboToronto]

Good morning Bitcoinland.

I see we're bouncing up and down at a rate of close to a grand an hour. Gets dizzying.

Bottom line: a bitcoin is still worth 1000 lakh satoshis. 
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As for century and epoch nomenclature, I guess it's optional. The first century can also be called century zero.

I guess Century 21 Real Estate established a precedent. It was founded in the 20th century and indeed they originally wanted to name it Twentieth Century Real Estate but thought they'd have trouble registering the name due to it already being taken. Instead of twentieth century, they called it Century 21. They should have called it Century 19 Real Estate though, according to year zero thinking.

Time is relative. 

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[BitcoinBunny]

I lakh Bitcoin, I lakh it a lot.

[El duderino_]

https://x.com/bitcoinlfgo/status/1783780382703251583?s=46

🤣🤣

[goldkingcoiner]

https://x.com/bitcoinlfgo/status/1783780382703251583?s=46

🤣🤣

Doubt it is true but if it is... Forget planning a 100k party, we will need to plan a 1 mill party.

[Lucius]

https://x.com/bitcoinlfgo/status/1783780382703251583?s=46
🤣🤣

More and more China in correlation with Bitcoin lately can't be a coincidence, but somehow it doesn't seem to me that the chances of unban Bitcoin are too realistic, unless the whole thing will come down to ETFs. One interesting theory when it comes to China and the price of BTC -> Capital outflows from China - not BTC ETFs or Halvings - drive the BTC price


@El duderino_ congratulations on 12 000 merits, and it seems that your avatar is so good that some others "borrowed" it. (the user is on another forum)

[fillippone]

The other day I posted this:

Andreas is spot on yet another time.



He's not only a great Bitcoin technician but also a great communicator.

Great soundtracks, btw. Kudos to whoever edited the video.

Strangely, no one seems to care how this is similar to this, or it is only me?

Today, read this:



My interpretation: the IRS is chasing your satoshis, and they don't like the privacy granted by the LN.

@El duderino_ congratulations on 12 000 merits

Ouch!

[Paashaas]

Where am i?

[BitcoinBunny]

Where am i?

St. Peter's Basilica, Vatican City.

That's easy.

At least you're having better weather than us here in the UK.
Autumn started in October and still hasn't ended it feels like.
Mental. We have had 1 day of decent weather since: 13th of April.

[philipma1957]

https://x.com/bitcoinlfgo/status/1783780382703251583?s=46
🤣🤣

More and more China in correlation with Bitcoin lately can't be a coincidence, but somehow it doesn't seem to me that the chances of unban Bitcoin are too realistic, unless the whole thing will come down to ETFs. One interesting theory when it comes to China and the price of BTC -> Capital outflows from China - not BTC ETFs or Halvings - drive the BTC price


@El duderino_ congratulations on 12 000 merits, and it seems that your avatar is so good that some others "borrowed" it. (the user is on another forum)

anyone on altcoinstalks.com could give him -karma once a day

https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=319370.msg1534253#msg1534253


does not mean you should but you could.


https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=88979

[Paashaas]

Where am i?

St. Peter's Basilica, Vatican City.

That's easy.

At least you're having better weather than us here in the UK.
Autumn started in October and still hasn't ended it feels like.
Mental. We have had 1 day of decent weather since: 13th of April.

Netherlands same shit weather, couldn't handle it anymore.

Packed my bags and traveled to Rome.

[serveria.com]

https://x.com/bitcoinlfgo/status/1783780382703251583?s=46

🤣🤣

They are planning to unban Bitcoin with the only intention to ban it next day. Because "China bans Bitcoin" is the worst disaster which can happen in Bitcoin world. 

[Hueristic]

https://x.com/bitcoinlfgo/status/1783780382703251583?s=46

🤣🤣

They are planning to unban Bitcoin with the only intention to ban it next day. Because "China bans Bitcoin" is the worst disaster which can happen in Bitcoin world. 

OK its a must post...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3zlqHdmPQs

[ivomm]

Two funny things happened to me today. The first is that I ordered a brand new mercedes SUV as if I ordered a pizza. I didn't give much thought about it, it was impulsive because of my current needs for a reliable 4x4 car. And this is just after I changed radically my life with buying an appartment in a closed complex, where the richest guys live. The city is so developed that there are next to zero houses for sale, only appartments. The second funny thing is that in the last few weeks I completely forgot that the fiat value of my stash is a certain number in euro, not in the local currency, which is 50% of the euro! I've discovered the mistake by chance and of course I was happy and more relaxed to buy this car. This never happened to me before! It shows how happy I am with my new life because of my choice to invest all in Bitcoin in the first half of 2017. I just don't care about the fiat value anymore. I care only to buy things that are good. My next goal is to buy a beach house in Greece and a small yacht to sail between the counltess islands during the summer. I can afford it even now, but I will wait for the coming price action, which will be mind blowing. Without Bitcoin, I could only dream of a second hand VW and live the same old boring life until I die. I can't express how grateful I am for this great invention and for all brothers in WO who encouraged me by their posts to become a degenerate hodler!

[OutOfMemory]

...
to become a degenerate hodler!

And that's why you deserve the richness 
#HODL on 

[JayJuanGee]

I can't express how grateful I am for this great invention and for all brothers in WO who encouraged me by their posts to become a degenerate hodler!

I don't see how you could have had become a degenerate BTC HODLer, since you are constantly talking about how many expenses that you have and how you are spending large quantities of your BTC.. .. so it would seem difficult to either meaningfully stack or get to a place in which it would become justifiable to start shaving off your stash, such as if you were at or near fuck you status.. which surely could be described in a variety of ways.. but someone who is constantly bragging about the ways that he is spending his coins would hardly even be i a status of having had either accumulated many bitcoins and/or to have been able to advantage from multiple compounding effects from the value doubling several times.

[ivomm]

I can't express how grateful I am for this great invention and for all brothers in WO who encouraged me by their posts to become a degenerate hodler!

I don't see how you could have had become a degenerate BTC HODLer, since you are constantly talking about how many expenses that you have and how you are spending large quantities of your BTC.. .. so it would seem difficult to either meaningfully stack or get to a place in which it would become justifiable to start shaving off your stash, such as if you were at or near fuck you status.. which surely could be described in a variety of ways.. but someone who is constantly bragging about the ways that he is spending his coins would hardly even be i a status of having had either accumulated many bitcoins and/or to have been able to advantage from multiple compounding effects from the value doubling several times.

I know that I'm not in your stash league, but still for my country I consider myself to be in FU status. If you followed my posts, you would know that I am using long term loans to buy these things. I have more than enough Bitcoins to buy them now, so there is no risk in this strategy. I have a salary which covers 100% of my monthly loan payments, so I have to spend only the 15% of the loans (3 so far) with my savings. So may be we are talking about less than 10% of my stash for all of it. This number might be higher or lower, for OPSEC I won't share it. But you get the idea. Even if it goes to 15-20% for other expenses in the next 25 years, I'm OK with it. And in the case of a job loss, I will have enough in Bitcoins so that I won't lose my property.

[eXPHorizon]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?=12N-b0sFCDCVguo8&v=YVi0kEJT6rQ&feature=youtu.be


God's not dead


Most wo folks won't watch it but the ones who will.. well one day you will find out

[criptoevangelista]

Two funny things happened to me today. The first is that I ordered a brand new mercedes SUV as if I ordered a pizza. I didn't give much thought about it, it was impulsive because of my current needs for a reliable 4x4 car. And this is just after I changed radically my life with buying an appartment in a closed complex, where the richest guys live. The city is so developed that there are next to zero houses for sale, only appartments. The second funny thing is that in the last few weeks I completely forgot that the fiat value of my stash is a certain number in euro, not in the local currency, which is 50% of the euro! I've discovered the mistake by chance and of course I was happy and more relaxed to buy this car. This never happened to me before! It shows how happy I am with my new life because of my choice to invest all in Bitcoin in the first half of 2017. I just don't care about the fiat value anymore. I care only to buy things that are good. My next goal is to buy a beach house in Greece and a small yacht to sail between the counltess islands during the summer. I can afford it even now, but I will wait for the coming price action, which will be mind blowing. Without Bitcoin, I could only dream of a second hand VW and live the same old boring life until I die. I can't express how grateful I am for this great invention and for all brothers in WO who encouraged me by their posts to become a degenerate hodler!

Congratulations! It's always great to read reports of what bitcoin is capable of doing, you planted and made the right choices, enjoy life!

Bitcoin is freedom.

[JayJuanGee]

I can't express how grateful I am for this great invention and for all brothers in WO who encouraged me by their posts to become a degenerate hodler!

I don't see how you could have had become a degenerate BTC HODLer, since you are constantly talking about how many expenses that you have and how you are spending large quantities of your BTC.. .. so it would seem difficult to either meaningfully stack or get to a place in which it would become justifiable to start shaving off your stash, such as if you were at or near fuck you status.. which surely could be described in a variety of ways.. but someone who is constantly bragging about the ways that he is spending his coins would hardly even be i a status of having had either accumulated many bitcoins and/or to have been able to advantage from multiple compounding effects from the value doubling several times.

I know that I'm not in your stash league, but still for my country I consider myself to be in FU status. If you followed my posts, you would know that I am using long term loans to buy this things. I have more than enough Bitcoins to buy them now, so there is no risk in this strategy. I have a salary which covers 100% of my monthly loan payments, so I have to spend only the 15% of the loans (3 so far) with my savings. So may be we are talking about less than 10% of my stash for all of it. This number might be higher or lower, for OPSEC I won't share it. But you get the idea. Even if it goes to 15-20% for other expenses in the next 25 years, I'm OK with it. And in the case of a job loss, I will have enough in Bitcoins so that I won't lose my property.

For sure, I understand that everyone can establish his own fuck you status level, so I am currently using the $2 million as the default entry-level status, just as a guideline for westerners, and so I have never even ever asserted that to be my own entry-level fuck you status.

Also my use of $2 million is based on traditional financial 4% withdrawal rules, and I have surely come to the conclusion that bitcoin could sustain much higher levels, such as 10% or more while still maintaining the same withdrawal rate of a guy who has $2 million in traditional investments, a bitcoin HODLer could have around $800k and achieve the same sustainable level of income of $6,666 per month, as long as he is valuing his stash on the 200-WMA rather than spot price.

So yeah I have largely already said my piece because we are  in a public thread, and surely if you are able to accurately measure your variables and your ways of achieving sustainable withdrawal, I am not going to proclaim that your system is not going to work, even if I express a decent amount of skepticism in regards to your various claims that seem to involve your ongoingly selling your BTC.. so as I said it seems quite difficult to build or maintain your stash under those kinds of conditions.

And, for sure i agree with the need of existing debt to be able to be serviced from a variety of existing cashflows, so yeah sometimes there can be some juggling going on when it comes to servicing debt, but surely I am not opposed to the use of debt in the balance of various kinds of ways to also have bitcoin in the mix in which you may well be able to hold and sustain higher levels of bitcoin because you are using various debt instruments and you have various other (perhaps mostly non-bitcoin) ways of servicing your debts.  I have no problem with those kinds of things as long as guys do not overdo it and devolve into gambling, which seems that earlier you had made some disclosures regarding some of the ways that you had previously overextended yourself with debt, and then you had some family expenses and they you also were so sure that they BTC price was going down when we were in the sub $20ks and even throughout the $20ks, so it would be difficult to imagine how you could have been doing the right things when you were whining so much about how you were doing the wrong things and expecting BTC prices to go down more when they ended up doing the exact opposite of what you seemed to be betting on.

So whatever, I don't need to know all your details, and surely we have other members saying the various points that they are selling their bitcoin, which sure, sometimes it seems to work out, but other times, it seems that they are largely selling at questionable times.. but surely not completely wrong times if they have reached a fuck you status level or even multiple levels of fuck you status, but it seems that a lot of times, the guys are not even close to being at fuck you status, but instead largely able to defer gratification.. and yeah, we don't always know a lot of the details, but this is still a public thread so if you are bragging about all of the BTC that you are selling, then guys here are more than free to become skeptical about the general applicability of such claims and even if it seems to make much sense in the whole context of matters, including that in your earliest days on the forum you might have been involved a bit much in shitcoins before you become more of a bitcoiner... so yeah, I am not completely claiming to know or even want to know all of your history or to analyze you or anything like that... but again, we are in a public thread in which we should likely already know that an overwhelming majority of the worlds population are no coiners and low coiners rather than being a in a position to be spending their bitcoin on the regular.

[Hueristic]

Wow, UK's a real shit place huh?

UK law enforcement will be able to destroy a crypto asset if returning it to circulation is not conducive to the public good. Privacy coins, for example, are a form of cryptocurrency that grant an extremely high degree of anonymity and are often used for money laundering.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-powers-to-seize-cryptoassets-used-by-criminals-go-live