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[ChartBuddy]

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[OutOfMemory]

can't someone nuke the shit out of this whole middle east region? such a bunch of retard countries, unbelievable.

You need to understand (unless your post was ironic): Nukes were not made for making war, they were made to prevent war.

[ChartBuddy]

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[bitcoinPsycho]

can't someone nuke the shit out of this whole middle east region? such a bunch of retard countries, unbelievable.

You need to understand (unless your post was ironic): Nukes were not made for making war, they were made to prevent war.

Yes yes I'm working on a way to collapse the entire universe to create peace once and for all 

[Lucius]

can't someone nuke the shit out of this whole middle east region? such a bunch of retard countries, unbelievable.

You need to understand (unless your post was ironic): Nukes were not made for making war, they were made to prevent war.

Or we can say that there can be no winner in such a war - literally the entire northern hemisphere would be burned according to all the simulations that exist. If Iraq or Afghanistan had nuclear weapons, they would never have been attacked - just as Russia would not have attacked Ukraine if, after the collapse of the Soviet Union, the US had not exerted enormous pressure on Ukraine to surrender its nuclear weapons.

[OutOfMemory]

OT:

Recent (End of August) redux of the North America Nebula (NGC 7000) using the new camera with the 430mm telescope.
One of the brighter nebulae captured near zenith for about 2 hours, so minimal post-processing needed (mainly denoising and sharpening)
Though we had clear, dark night skies in September, when i was on vacation and i returned with rainy, cold weather.
Still no newer pics to date
Hoping on winter ("Galaxy Season"), when there should be less moisture in the air.



EDIT: I plan to shoot the lower right area, where the most defined red (Hydrogen-Alpha) gases are located, with four times the resolution/magnification, but i (probably) need a better guiding camera first. This one will need 8 hours of exposure for the same signal quality, but it could be done in November or December within a single night. Wish me luck.

can't someone nuke the shit out of this whole middle east region? such a bunch of retard countries, unbelievable.

You need to understand (unless your post was ironic): Nukes were not made for making war, they were made to prevent war.

Yes yes I'm working on a way to collapse the entire universe to create peace once and for all  

There's a mind trick for kind of doing that (in reverse, actually), but it only gives peace for one. If everybody would be doing it regularly, we could achieve quite a similar state of being  
The collapsing variant would take a lot of "time", or a near infinite amount of parallel events, which can't be triggered locally, i guess.

[ChartBuddy]

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[philipma1957]

can't someone nuke the shit out of this whole middle east region? such a bunch of retard countries, unbelievable.

You need to understand (unless your post was ironic): Nukes were not made for making war, they were made to prevent war.

Or we can say that there can be no winner in such a war - literally the entire northern hemisphere would be burned according to all the simulations that exist. If Iraq or Afghanistan had nuclear weapons, they would never have been attacked - just as Russia would not have attacked Ukraine if, after the collapse of the Soviet Union, the US had not exerted enormous pressure on Ukraine to surrender its nuclear weapons.

Reagan fucked us all back in the 80's with that deal he set up a future war between Russia and Ukraine and here we are. oh well.

[Gachapin]

OT: Re Mars and a 'future yourself'

Remember 23andMe company...15 mil Americans gave their DNA to clear their ethnicity, find lost cousins, potentially mutated genes, etc, etc.
Now, 23andMe is in trouble:

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2024/09/23andme-dna-data-privacy-sale/680057/

A sombre thought occurred:

Current DNA sequencing techniques allow for easy sequencing of the donor's ENTIRE DNA (genome).
With that in hand, such genome can be stored as information (file) and that file could later be used to reproduce YOU, theoretically.
If someone has a drive to populate some planet (which one, I wonder?) with genetically variable humans, all would be needed is a slightly better DNA synthesis capabilities and a source of oocytes/eggs, from where the maternal DNA would have to be removed. A small zap of electricity, then a surrogate mom and YOU (biologically) could be reborn (of course, with no memories whatsoever).

I am not sure whether it is entirely bad or the very fact that you could be reborn like this, albeit purely theoretically, could be pleasing to someone.

TL;DR If you gave DNA to 23andme, then, purely theoretically, you could be reborn later on (according to the scheme above).

If you drop as much acid (70s and 80s) as I did you would know it is all recorded. And replayed with some variations.

I didn't, so not sure what exactly you are talking about...like you think you saw into the potential future or futures?
Steve Jobs took mushrooms in his twenties and he said that he saw himself achieving success and notoriety, but dying relatively young, then it happened.
There is the theory of "block universe" that says that EVERYTHING already happened, it's just being revealed as we are progressing in our own time-space.

it was not quite that more like age zero to the present was played quickly over and over again.  future access was not available.

but say age 1 to 25 (last really strong trip) was played in a loop a dozen or so times.

so exhausted from this I laid down attempting to crash and sleep. At this time I had a reoccurring dream of a young woman making love with me. and a narrator voice suggesting that I should want this girl because she wanted to repeatly make love with me.

I was high as fuck and fairly confused as the person that was going downtown on me had pretty short hair and I thought the person looked a bit boyish. I could only see the back of the person’s head. in the vision dream acid trip
 say time  was 1982 well in 1987 I was married and my wife looked slightly boyish with a short haircut and I realized she was the person in the acid trip dream vision I had back in 1982.

So the loop that repeated from age 1 to 25 10 times then spun to a vision of my future wife.

So I kind of don’t worry much about a lot of shit 💩 since I know the universe can pretty much do whatever the fuck it wants to do.

back on topice
80k in a day would be cool

wow! I had a similar experience, just without the acid  
I had my (sex) dream at age 13-15 and I met my partner around 20 years later.

interesting how this stuff works!

[ChartBuddy]

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[eXPHorizon]

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[Richy_T]

I am not sure whether it is entirely bad or the very fact that you could be reborn like this, albeit purely theoretically, could be pleasing to someone.

It's pretty neutral as far as I'm concerned. It's just a totally separate person. I'm sure some would find objection to it though.

Of more concern to me is the possibility of genetically targeted attack vectors if the info is in the hands of our enemies. It probably already was though. It's not hard to get genetic information.

[goldkingcoiner]

can't someone nuke the shit out of this whole middle east region? such a bunch of retard countries, unbelievable.

You need to understand (unless your post was ironic): Nukes were not made for making war, they were made to prevent war.

Or we can say that there can be no winner in such a war - literally the entire northern hemisphere would be burned according to all the simulations that exist. If Iraq or Afghanistan had nuclear weapons, they would never have been attacked - just as Russia would not have attacked Ukraine if, after the collapse of the Soviet Union, the US had not exerted enormous pressure on Ukraine to surrender its nuclear weapons.

Nobody is going to press a worldwide suicide button. No one would be ready to use something like that.  

[El duderino_]

https://x.com/naiivememe/status/1841357949484368178?s=46

[Ambatman]

Despite Bitcoin price fall, atleast something Rose.
It's Dominance.




https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/israel-said-mulling-attacks-on-iran-oil-rigs-nuclear-sites-in-response-to-missile-attack/amp/
This could likely escalate more than this if nothing is done.

"There's no instance of a nation benefiting from prolonged warfare " -Sun Tzu

[OutOfMemory]

If you drop as much acid (70s and 80s) as I did you would know it is all recorded. And replayed with some variations.

I didn't, so not sure what exactly you are talking about...like you think you saw into the potential future or futures?
Steve Jobs took mushrooms in his twenties and he said that he saw himself achieving success and notoriety, but dying relatively young, then it happened.
There is the theory of "block universe" that says that EVERYTHING already happened, it's just being revealed as we are progressing in our own time-space.

it was not quite that more like age zero to the present was played quickly over and over again.  future access was not available.

but say age 1 to 25 (last really strong trip) was played in a loop a dozen or so times.

so exhausted from this I laid down attempting to crash and sleep. At this time I had a reoccurring dream of a young woman making love with me. and a narrator voice suggesting that I should want this girl because she wanted to repeatly make love with me.

I was high as fuck and fairly confused as the person that was going downtown on me had pretty short hair and I thought the person looked a bit boyish. I could only see the back of the person’s head. in the vision dream acid trip
 say time  was 1982 well in 1987 I was married and my wife looked slightly boyish with a short haircut and I realized she was the person in the acid trip dream vision I had back in 1982.

So the loop that repeated from age 1 to 25 10 times then spun to a vision of my future wife.

So I kind of don’t worry much about a lot of shit 💩 since I know the universe can pretty much do whatever the fuck it wants to do.

And that's why many of us could stop worrying about life instantly. But we were raised in insecurity and taught doubt, full of fear, trying to stay "in control".
Acid gives you good lessons on how to give up control and go with the flow, slowly dismantling our poor, insecure ego.
One can (believe to) know a million things, but one deep spiritual experience weighs them up a million times (or so).

(EDIT: Personally, i try to keep myself "open" instead of clogging my brain with useless thoughts or entertainment, so i don't miss opportunities the universe presents to me. I guess this is why i am here today, do what i do, love who i love and mostly everything turned out successfully. Of course, this strongly relies on the personal definition of "success", but in retrospect, i wouldn't change a single thing in my past life, even those that sucked ass in the first place.)

wow! I had a similar experience, just without the acid  
I had my (sex) dream at age 13-15 and I met my partner around 20 years later.

interesting how this stuff works!

The acid is just a way to open doors quicker, on demand. That's why many ex-users try to get in tune with the universe (plebs call it "god" or "allah") using various spiritual ways (like myself).

Despite Bitcoin price fall, atleast something Rose.
It's Dominance.

Well, it's certainly not alt-season  

Nobody is going to press a worldwide suicide button. No one would be ready to use something like that.  

As far as history was showing, things like these tend to happen accidentally.

[JayJuanGee]

I guess we will soon be under 60k again...

At least we still gat each other to sing
"Everything gonna Be Okay"

Who cares even if we do dip below $60K again?  That's just more dollar cost averaging coins to be scooped up by the faithful before we blast off.  It's clear we've gotten over the hurdles of mtgox and most of the government selling.  It's clear governments have started printing money again globally.  I even think it is clear that demand is outstripping new supply greatly while cash is quickly heading to the market for new buys.  I feel pretty good about the statement that we will be at least 10% higher a month from now.  10% in a month to normal people would be a big number to promise on an investment.

When you have been long enough in Bitcoin (as you have), price fluctuation is just a game at some point.
We placed our bets long ago and it doesn't matter which numbers the roulette's ball jumps around at before its final destination (even though we already got rewarded while waiting - how awesome is that !?)

But it's still exciting to watch price movements, and that's one reason why I'm a WO member, apart from the company of well educated gentlemen sharing pics of themselves pissing while drunk...

Maybe your analogy fits some aspects in which we have various ups and downs in the short term, and so each of us are affected, but likely in various degrees, and so the longer that any of us has been in and mostly erroring on the side of stacking and HODLing, then the less likely that we should be affected in terms of our overall networth, since maybe the change in value of our networth is not dramatically affecting what we are able to do, since perhaps the BTC is multiples, if not magnitudes higher than our actual standard of living needs.

So, i am not sure how many cycles it takes to get to a point of almost zen because some longer guys seem to still be stacking sats and wanting more and more (beyond which seems to be our ongoing uppity direction), and so those kinds of trading can contribute to more stress than needed...  

If we might have had concluded that with bitcoin $800k is our entry fuck you status.. and maybe we have other kinds of assets and wealth too in order to provide a cushion, and maybe those other assets would have to be at least $2 million for entry-level fuck you status for those other assets.  So maybe we reach at least entry-level fuck you status in each of the categories, and maybe we might not feel that we have enough, and so how much of a cushion do we need on each? and do we keep that cushion in the bitcoin category or have a cushion in the traditional assets category or a combination of both?  And is it enough if the cushion is multiples such as 2x, 4x, 6x or does it need to be magnitudes such as 10x or 20x to start to feel comfortable?  Maybe we have to increase our standard of living, too?

Are we pre-fuck-you status?  getting close to fuck you status?  or already there?  There's gotta be variance in the situations regarding how we assess our situations and some of us might be wrong in our assessments of our own situations too (in regards to how much is enough to get into a status of zen).  

Maybe an example could be helpful?  So if a guy with the entry-level fuck you status that I described above were to have around 15x the bitcoin fuck you status and perhaps combined with only around 1.5x the traditional fuck you status, so his wealth is still fluctuating around, and so in 2022, his fuck you status might have gone down to ONLY around 5-7x of the bitcoin fuck you status and maybe the traditional fuck you status wealth did not change very much... He still might becomes somewhat worried and less zen.  Yet in this latest correction, maybe his bitcoin fuck you status had gone from 15x to only 12x, and surely it could be threatened to go back down to ONLY 10x, yet there is a sense that 10x might be a bottom.. so he is still affected by the ups and downs, yet bitcoin's trajectory seems to continue upward, so it still might be difficult to get worked up about price fluctuations when there is a decently sized cushion.. ... yet it still seems to me that the level of the cushions are going to vary, and also members are going to vary in terms of their psychological reactions, even if they might be in a similar situation as someone else.. and some guys also cannot resist trading and/or gambling with portions of their stash, since they believe that they are going to be put in a better place from trading and/or gambling, even if such trading and/or gambling had not really substantially and/or materially helped them out in the past.. but some guys cannot resist to trade/gamble with their stash or perhaps even have trouble recognizing that they already have a decent cushion and they seek more and More and MOAR...

[psycodad]

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/israel-said-mulling-attacks-on-iran-oil-rigs-nuclear-sites-in-response-to-missile-attack/amp/
This could likely escalate more than this if nothing is done.

"There's no instance of a nation benefiting from prolonged warfare " -Sun Tzu

It's the (military industrial) economy, stupid.

Sorry, I foolishly said the silent part out loud.

[OutOfMemory]

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/israel-said-mulling-attacks-on-iran-oil-rigs-nuclear-sites-in-response-to-missile-attack/amp/
This could likely escalate more than this if nothing is done.

"There's no instance of a nation benefiting from prolonged warfare " -Sun Tzu

It's the (military industrial) economy, stupid.

Sorry, I foolishly said the silent part out loud.

psycodad, it's the illusion that we (each) and our "values" are worth more or more important than the rest.
There can never be peace without respect.
Economy is used as a weapon, too. (I guess that's not really news to you, though)