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Question: How far will this leg take us?
$110K - 9 (8.3%)
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$130K - 17 (15.7%)
$140K - 9 (8.3%)
$150K - 19 (17.6%)
$160K - 2 (1.9%)
$170K+ - 33 (30.6%)
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We need a new poll. Is the bull over? yes/no

can we have something more cheerful as a poll? like "will the sun go supernova tomorrow" or something?

right...we don't know how long this "simulation" lasts.
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October 14, 2025, 07:16:46 PM
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Transfer fees must be worth as much as the maize.
Best guess, they use an exchange that allows users to send and receive cryptos for free within the platform, it was available in Coinbase when I used but not sure if it is still available.

Other option is LN but I don't think they are into it.

And I read decentralization, but really? When they are using exchange as a wallet... Roll Eyes
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Where is this stand located?

Transfer fees must be worth as much as the maize.

 Plot twist!  It's a money-laundering operation for stolen corn and charcoal - capital costs are negligible.

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They might bring it down to achieve a double bottom at, hopefully, higher than $102K (higher low).
A weak sauce bounce so far, anyway.

People throw around numbers that are either too low, if the bull market continues, or too high if it would not.
If Oct10 was just a bull market reset, then we would need to go much higher (at least 50% higher to 150-155K or even higher from the lows) and if it was a start of the bear, then it is unlikely to go up much more above 126K, or maybe 130K max.

In effect, anyone who mentions 130K actually thinks that the bull market is essentially over.
A small overshoot often happens-like in Nov 2021 when the stronger top was in April at, maybe, 3-4K lower and at 68.9K, the bull was exhausted and the peak lasted a very short time.

We haven’t really even had a bull market. We can’t even double the previous cycle top from four years ago.

2025 yearly open was 94k. We’re at 112k and looks like we’re going lower. Would be quite something to end the year below its open.

This is not a bull market.

We all accept that Bitcoin can perform badly in a bear market. It’s been a great opportunity for lots of us to make serious money over the years but I don’t think I’ve ever been as disappointed in Bitcoin as I currently am. Utterly pathetic 2025 so far.

I thought 150k was close to guaranteed but it looks miles off right now.

I hear you in some respects, but why should we count from Jan 1, 2025?
For mark to market or tax purposes? This "bull" started in Nov-Dec 2022.
It is a strange market...maybe it should be called a "currently subdued bull"?

Over the years , I have seen many situations where Mr Market was "faking" bear action in some stocks while true whales were loading on the cheap.
Examples: NFLX in 2012 (drop from $39 to $9-minus 77%, Icahn was buying in bulk), now NFLX is at $1215; NFLX again in 2022 ($691 to $166-minus 76%, not sure who loaded up); META-380 to 89 in 2021, minus 76.6%, now $712; LLY-flat between 1997 and 2012, then from $31 to $813 on Mounjaro (similar to Ozempic) with 10X move between 2018 and 2024. All and all, accumulators seem to "like" down 76-77% moves and bitcoin also obliged for an exact same number in 2021-2022.

The point is that you wouldn't know what to expect. Currently, it seems that SBR "wants" to load on the cheap and China via Binance "wants" to suppress bitcoin in lieu of promoting gold. Bessent is a "player"...he would let it play for a while and then: Wham...selling a tiny bit of gold and buying bitcoin...gold would be cut in half, maybe, and bitcoin would add 50-100K. This is my view, not a real prediction.
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Selling Bitcoin for gold ore other precious metals is pure blasphemy, commited atrocities of treason.
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Transfer fees must be worth as much as the maize.
Best guess, they use an exchange that allows users to send and receive cryptos for free within the platform, it was available in Coinbase when I used but not sure if it is still available.

Other option is LN but I don't think they are into it.

And I read decentralization, but really? When they are using exchange as a wallet... Roll Eyes

There’s literally a lightning symbol on the sign so I’m guessing that’s what they’re using to process orders. That makes me think this is more about a photo op than anything else (maybe look into who funded this) as I’ve heard that the only thing they’re using in these countries is stablecoins, mostly on the Tron network.
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Lot's of negativity even from seasoned people, not too worried to be honest, expect to see higher prices soon(ish) Grin

I 'expect' sometime this Fall of 2025 that we will be in an 'official' recession. With all the drama and Trump's erratic decisions like Tariffs/etc....a certain amount of 'adulting' is

now lost in society. So the 'wake up call' will be this 'hopefully' erratic behavior by the executive branch..limited by other branches of usa govt. Consequences are, again, IMHO,

we were 'due' for a recession anyway..but this will be a 'deep recession' in my view, while sh*t gets put back together govt/society/personal debt wise, etc.

However, I expect IF the stock market and economy tanks say 25% and we do go into a recession that BTC will be hit harder then that first in that it is a 24/7 sell in

a panic and most people (reason for recession) are over-extended be it corps/small biz/rich/middle class/poor or whatever. So the cc has to be paid, dentist for the kids

equity in the house is gone (value drops) and cc maxed out..etc/etc. Eventually (because people will have to face this in like cc maxed out and other such same) have to

get their finances together but that took years to get this way for above and years (at least a couple) to get out of such.

Again, 'adulting' sucks but it is coming. Again, IMHO.

So btc will dump big time initially...could be up to 6 months or more..but then come back strong along with gold/land/btc....I really doubt that 'usa bonds' will do

better than gold/land/btc as such....so just saying prepare for a wild ride...and HODL.....my 'imaginary' timeline to consider selling is 2035 when 99% of all btc will

have been mined by then. My stuff is in a 'trust' for friends/relatives I live on other stuff and have not touched (added some) this since 2015...but as an 'imaginary'

timeline of 2035 it is comforting.

So thing is with recessions and bad times (i've gone thru at least 4 of them) EVERYTHING has a point where it free falls and is worth less (unless we get hyper inflation)

but with $$$ dollar worth rot (this year 10%) and most of what people consider valuable going down in value in a recession it is not IF such will happen to btc

it is WHEN it will pump as a result of choices...when people want security for their $$ to invest WHEN they get a handle on cc debt and other stuff with room to buy

and get assets again. This is even going to be more 'stark' in the world, especially in corrupt society's and govt's........

so pain is coming for everyone....hang in their and HODL....the 'grown ups' have to take control of society in some manner....and recession is probably the wake up

call..if not it will be much worse than just a recession IMHO

So the idea of BTC suddenly pumping and $$$ flowing into such as an 'investment' with tight $$$ to do so in a recession..everyone knows they should buy stocks/land/btc

but are 'strapped' for cash or real life problems like the loss of a job or cc debt....at best I'd like to see 'sideways' as such in price as people HODL. But again, I don't

expect a pump till all this settles some in 6 months or more AFTER officially in a recession. I hope I am 'incorrect' the btc shines when all my other assets tank...but

in the past that has not really been the case.....so HODL..and get some BTC 'dust' on PayPal at least once in awhile IF prices go down.....













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Lot's of negativity even from seasoned people, not too worried to be honest, expect to see higher prices soon(ish) Grin

Agree! Lots of negativity from OGs.

You would think they would understand and actually embrace the volatility, knowing it's naturally going to happen on the way to the finish line.

It doesn't bother me either - it's like water rolling right off a duck's back...  Cheesy
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Lot's of negativity even from seasoned people, not too worried to be honest, expect to see higher prices soon(ish) Grin

Agree! Lots of negativity from OGs.

You would think they would understand and actually embrace the volatility, knowing it's naturally going to happen on the way to the finish line.

It doesn't bother me either - it's like water rolling right off a duck's back...  Cheesy

Don’t think bearishness is negativity. A lot of the OGs have been around a few cycles and know what comes next. Like I’ve said, there’s a good chance we go higher before the end of the year, but it is a near certainty that Bitcoin will be selling for cheaper in 18 months. Buy if you want, but don’t shrug off the warnings as negativity.
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Lot's of negativity even from seasoned people, not too worried to be honest, expect to see higher prices soon(ish) Grin

Agree! Lots of negativity from OGs.

You would think they would understand and actually embrace the volatility, knowing it's naturally going to happen on the way to the finish line.

It doesn't bother me either - it's like water rolling right off a duck's back...  Cheesy

Don’t think bearishness is negativity. A lot of the OGs have been around a few cycles and know what comes next. Like I’ve said, there’s a good chance we go higher before the end of the year, but it is a near certainty that Bitcoin will be selling for cheaper in 18 months. Buy if you want, but don’t shrug off the warnings as negativity.

If we hit the ath in 2026 we break the 4 year cycle pattern.

If we go side ways for 10 months more in a 106-126 slot we break the 4 year cycle.

Time keeps on slipping slipping into the future, but there's a solution.
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 I'm not considering a continuation of this drop yet, I just saw that it was tested twice the bottom of 110000, but with daily opening below yesterday's close, but 2k above the low, indicates that there is a possibility of continuation if it doesn't close the week above 116k.... if there is none, it opens the way for the test of 'the so-called 100k'... And then I move on to consider the continuation and confirmation of a bear market.

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After Historic Liquidation Event, Has the Crypto Winter Arrived?

 (...)What made this event historic wasn’t just the speed — 1.6 million accounts were liquidated in 24 hours — but the leverage that fueled it. Platforms like Hyperliquid (CRYPTO:HYPE) saw 88% of losses from overextended long bets, with ratios up to 100x turning modest dips into total ruin.. The overall market bled $200 billion, a stark reminder that crypto’s highs come with hairpin turns.(...)

(...)Is the Post-Crash Bounce Real or a Head Fake?

...Traders are cautious, buying contracts to protect against further drops. These bets, especially on Bitcoin at $95,000 and Ethereum at $3,600, signal fear of more declines. Past flash crashes, like 2022’s 70% drop, fuel these concerns. Trade tensions or economic slowdown could deepen losses...
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...Still, institutional holders, including Strategy (NASDAQ:MSTR), shrugged off the dip; their BTC hoard now tops 250,000 coins, while BlackRock‘s (NYSE:BLK) iShares Bitcoin Trust (NASDAQ:IBIT) saw net buys, recording $134 million in inflows over the past two trading days and 10 straight days of net inflows, according to CoinDesk.....

Will a Crypto Winter Hit?

Fear seems to rule the trading floor now. Options data signals severe caution with volatility surging 30% in short-dated contracts. Although traders aren’t fleeing; they’re fortifying their positions with aggressive downside protection. On-chain metrics show reduced open interest as sentiment indexes hover near “extreme fear” levels last seen in 2022.



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Stack is growing via btc mining.

dca and hodl
buy the dip and hodl

maybe 1 day I will have 2x 0.63 coins
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Bessent is a "player"...
Wham...selling a tiny bit of gold and buying bitcoin...

--good numbers--

This is not a real prediction.

Even less so if gold has to be physically delivered  Tongue
Nice thought, though.
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