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I withdrew a couple millions and did not need to prove anything, just answer their questions. Unless they recently changed rules, it is likely that the guy's activity had some reason for suspicion and therefore he got special treatment. (The checks are usually automatic, and give many false positives, which cause annoyance for people, of course.)
I think its clear that they have changed rules. Also I don't think its the case now that your are just getting flagged on suspicious activity it seems to be more about a threshold. I have also been asked this and there is nothing at all suspicious about my account. This guy for example https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=38711.msg6554157#msg6554157 was just trying to deposit $220 and had deposited $12k over a year and a few months. |
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dreamspark
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May 23, 2014, 08:43:28 PM |
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Do I need to get my coins out of bitstamp for safety?
I think that is rash, theres no suggestion or evidence they are insolvent just being far far too intrusive to cover their backsides. |
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May 23, 2014, 08:45:31 PM |
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Do I need to get my coins out of bitstamp for safety?
no there questions are for your own & everyones safety. your monies are safer at stamps then other places, because they are playing it safe. |
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adamstgBit
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May 23, 2014, 08:47:28 PM |
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now everyone hit market buy with 100$ and lets see what happens.  |
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May 23, 2014, 08:52:00 PM |
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>500
Soonish ™
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May 23, 2014, 08:56:23 PM |
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Do I need to get my coins out of bitstamp for safety?
For fuck's sake. This is nothing new.... It's a couple of teenagers that want so start riots against Bitstamp. It's completely legit. Why don't you Google "Bitstamp questionaire" or "bitcoin exchange questionaire" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=499882 etc It's a standard procedure in order to maintain a good relationship with their bank. Otherwise, they will get kicked out. I just wrote a couple of sentences and I passed the test. As long as you don't say "I am a terrorist" "It's all illegal money", then you are good to go. DON'T BOTHER ABOUT BISTAMP, IT'S 100% LEGIT!!! A couple of sentences don't cover it if your asked for proof of where the funds came from. As was the case with myself. But I agree with the its nothing new it just about how and what they are asking. We've seen huge data breaches at third party companies such as Adobe and Ebay and people are right to be wary of what sort of information these companies hold on themselves. |
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May 23, 2014, 08:57:14 PM
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Do I need to get my coins out of bitstamp for safety?
Better safe than sorry. You really should. Remember that here even in january when the insolvency of Gox was obviously obvious there were still people to tell you there is no evidence and to believe there is a good reason for them to delay USD, euros, yens and bitcoins withdrawals. Just make a cold storage instead of trusting anyone, that is the point of Bitcoin. |
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May 23, 2014, 09:00:40 PM |
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May 23, 2014, 09:02:39 PM |
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Do I need to get my coins out of bitstamp for safety?
Better safe than sorry. You really should. Remember that here even in january when the insolvency of Gox where obviously obvious there were still people to tell you there is no evidence and to believe there is a good reason for them to delay USD, euros, yens and bitcoins withdrawals. Just make a cold storage instead of trusting anyone, that is the point of Bitcoin. Didn't they pass a solvency audit prior to the fall of Gox? |
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dreamspark
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May 23, 2014, 09:04:13 PM |
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Didn't they pass a solvency audit prior to the fall of Gox?
Yes and no. The audit was released in I think March or Feb but the actual audit was done in November. Besides you still have to trust the auditor. (Again Im not saying there are any solvency issues) |
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May 23, 2014, 09:04:18 PM |
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I haven't seen this kick in to a full blown feedback loop yet, I bet if you start posting Chinese slumber predictions again you could kill it.
I'll LOL had if you do, hell i promise to short a little.
The basic Chinese Slumber Method is trivial, just take the Huobi 1h chart on Bitcoinwisdom, switch to UTC time, line drawing mode, and connect the last two Slumber Points -- mean price in the last two 19:00 UTC candles. We just went through one. Then shift the plot so that you can read the line's value at the next 19:00 position. A slight refinement is to skip Slumber Points with visible volume bars, like yesterday's. Connecting the points of May/21 nd May/23 I get ~3380 CNY for tomorrow May/24 ~19:30 UTC. There, I hope the rally is dead now.  It was seeing your post here that was affecting the chi in the feedback loop, it had nothing to do with numbers. OK, perhaps this will have the intended effect:  [ from here ] |
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lemonte
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May 23, 2014, 09:10:23 PM |
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Didn't they pass a solvency audit prior to the fall of Gox?
Yes and no. The audit was released in I think March or Feb but the actual audit was done in November. Besides you still have to trust the auditor. (Again Im not saying there are any solvency issues) Wasn't it Andreas? Apologies, on phone with low battery so can't search to find the details. |
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dreamspark
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May 23, 2014, 09:11:59 PM |
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Didn't they pass a solvency audit prior to the fall of Gox?
Yes and no. The audit was released in I think March or Feb but the actual audit was done in November. Besides you still have to trust the auditor. (Again Im not saying there are any solvency issues) Wasn't it Andreas? Apologies, on phone with low battery so can't search to find the details. What does who it was change to the fact you have to trust them? |
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May 23, 2014, 09:13:19 PM |
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Funny, since the rally began, the price stops increasing for a few hours, every day, around 03:00 am China time. How weird.
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May 23, 2014, 09:14:26 PM |
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Didn't they pass a solvency audit prior to the fall of Gox?
Yes and no. The audit was released in I think March or Feb but the actual audit was done in November. Besides you still have to trust the auditor. (Again Im not saying there are any solvency issues) Wasn't it Andreas? Apologies, on phone with low battery so can't search to find the details. He popped into Coinbase and sniffed around a bit. |
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dreamspark
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May 23, 2014, 09:15:46 PM |
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Oh gosh how hard is it :p. Mining, donations, sold stuff online, investments, payment for freelance work. Yes, a few sentences covers it.
They don't even ask for proof of where the funds come from, they just ask where they origin from. Big difference.
Agree with that part til 100%. Bitstamp should give more information on what happens with the passport scans, replies to questionaires etc.
They do ask for proof, thats the point. See the Bitstamp marketplace thread for an example of someone who had to prove where he got the $220 he ws trying to deposit. |
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pandacoin
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May 23, 2014, 09:16:20 PM |
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Price should be stable for this week. Rally is too fast I can't reach my top level. I need 2 weeks more so I can be in full coins.
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May 23, 2014, 09:20:06 PM
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Do I need to get my coins out of bitstamp for safety?
Better safe than sorry. You really should. Remember that here even in january when the insolvency of Gox where obviously obvious there were still people to tell you there is no evidence and to believe there is a good reason for them to delay USD, euros, yens and bitcoins withdrawals. Just make a cold storage instead of trusting anyone, that is the point of Bitcoin. Didn't they pass a solvency audit prior to the fall of Gox? To the best of my knowledge, the only exchange that proposes to any customer a trustless audit is Vault of Satoshi. Bitstamp has been audited but even the auditors did say that there were ways to trick them. Besides, Bitstamp is not legit, on the contrary of, for example, bitcoin-central or bitcoin.de, and if there is one lesson provided by the Black Friday in online poker it is this : even if you are a large, old and successful business, you don't mess with the US government. Pokerstars is a billion dollar business but still not legit in USA, and Bitstamp could totally have its Black Friday considering that legit US exchanges are about to open and they are an "unfair" competitor. Do not trust them because you have no reason to do so. I am not saying that they are as shady as EmptyGox obviously, just that with the history full of scams and hacks of Bitcoin, your default behaviour should be not to trust any third party for any meaningful amount of BTC. |
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May 23, 2014, 09:20:59 PM |
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Funny, since the rally began, the price stops increasing for a few hours, every day, around 03:00 am China time. How weird.
I speculate subconsciously there are algorithms at play, if you read enough and take note of the diapering posts, you get a feel for the magic maths that makes bitcoin work. |
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May 23, 2014, 09:22:30 PM |
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Didn't [ Bitstamp ] pass a solvency audit prior to the fall of Gox?
Wasn't it Andreas [ the auditor ]? Apologies, on phone with low battery so can't search to find the details. What does who it was change to the fact you have to trust them? Because Andreas also vouched for Neo & Bee... Besides the auditor's reputation, one must consider HOW the "audit" was done. Basically, it didn't prove anything -- if Bitstamp were lying to clients, they could have easily fooled that "audit" too. EDIT: as others pointed out Andreas "audited" Coinbase, not Bitstamp. |
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