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May 26, 2014, 04:54:26 PM |
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Come on guys these "Willy" news could be manipulated easily, on reddit i've seen people claiming missing even 10% of their stats on mtgox.
its not manipulated, i watched these bot movements too. I observed them at real time. The thing with the bot movements is true. Lot of traders saw it realtime and commented on it, now this guy wrote a nice summary.
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KFR
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May 26, 2014, 04:55:25 PM |
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YogoH
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May 26, 2014, 04:57:02 PM |
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Markers on volume bars was willy. Taken from reddit
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Adrian-x
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May 26, 2014, 04:58:58 PM |
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Litecoin seems to be firmly uncoupled from bitcoin now (if that's not an oxymoron). Doge also falling. Dark days ahead for both?
It was the same in the last BTC runup. First, LTC was falling and falling, LTC doomsday prophecies were filling the air. "LTC is dead!!!" and so on. Then, the LTC/BTC ratio suddenly jumped from 0.0075 to 0.05 in a matter of 1 week !!! Same with many of the other alts. I would never call the end of some alt too early, those little suckers are full of nasty surprises! Once upon a time, the majority of crypto investors had not experienced the burning side of a p&d. Not true now. Today, to have staying power, at a leading tier marketcap, a coin has to have compelling features. LTC does not. I expect DRK to fail on its snake-oil promises, eventually, but I expect it to outperform LTC by a nautical mile for a long while, perhaps forever. Yes, LTC has historically lagged BTC and overshot its spikes. I expect most of that positive beta will be embodied by other alts with better distinctives this time. NXT and MRO are obvious candidates (leaving DRK aside for the moment). A couple of weeks back you were more skeptical about NXT. What changed your mind, if indeed it has changed? NXT Asset Exchange + BIG community backing it... Don't go putting all your eggs in the NXT basket, given its origin it has a rather concentrated initial distribution, I may go so far as to relate it to ripple, then there is the Kenzan paradox of thrift, the paradox is managed in fiat with money inflation discouraging saving, NXT rewords Savings and encourages the paradox to the detriment of it as a useful means of exchange and ultimately a store of value. I have yet to see other functionality to counterbalance this but it may exist or emerge.
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igorr
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May 26, 2014, 05:00:01 PM |
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Markers on volume bars was willy. Taken from reddit Willy bench press is so powerfull.
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wachtwoord
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May 26, 2014, 05:00:31 PM |
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Not for me but cool. Thanks for posting!
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May 26, 2014, 05:00:40 PM |
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SirChiko
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May 26, 2014, 05:02:07 PM |
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Talking about Altcoins , what do you think about Blackcoin guys?
They won't work. Racism hidden everywhere OT: Well, is the one pushing the price up again willy 2?
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May 26, 2014, 05:04:29 PM |
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With all this talk of enormous willies flying all over the place, how do we know anyone on here is real?
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YogoH
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May 26, 2014, 05:05:01 PM |
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Markers on volume bars was willy. Taken from reddit Willy bench press is so powerfull. I was thinking the opposite. Especially considering mt gox had like 15% market share at this time
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May 26, 2014, 05:05:18 PM |
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Litecoin seems to be firmly uncoupled from bitcoin now (if that's not an oxymoron). Doge also falling. Dark days ahead for both?
It was the same in the last BTC runup. First, LTC was falling and falling, LTC doomsday prophecies were filling the air. "LTC is dead!!!" and so on. Then, the LTC/BTC ratio suddenly jumped from 0.0075 to 0.05 in a matter of 1 week !!! Same with many of the other alts. I would never call the end of some alt too early, those little suckers are full of nasty surprises! Once upon a time, the majority of crypto investors had not experienced the burning side of a p&d. Not true now. Today, to have staying power, at a leading tier marketcap, a coin has to have compelling features. LTC does not. I expect DRK to fail on its snake-oil promises, eventually, but I expect it to outperform LTC by a nautical mile for a long while, perhaps forever. Yes, LTC has historically lagged BTC and overshot its spikes. I expect most of that positive beta will be embodied by other alts with better distinctives this time. NXT and MRO are obvious candidates (leaving DRK aside for the moment). A couple of weeks back you were more skeptical about NXT. What changed your mind, if indeed it has changed? NXT Asset Exchange + BIG community backing it... Don't go putting all your eggs in the NXT basket, given its origin it has a rather concentrated initial distribution, I may go so far as to relate it to ripple, then there is the Kenzan paradox of thrift, the paradox is managed in fiat with money inflation discouraging saving, NXT rewords Savings and encourages the paradox to the detriment of it as a useful means of exchange and ultimately a store of value. I have yet to see other functionality to counterbalance this but it may exist or emerge. I am one of the 73...
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SirChiko
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May 26, 2014, 05:05:51 PM |
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With all this talk of enormous willies flying all over the place, how do we know anyone on here is real?
Everybody is willy just like Satoshi
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May 26, 2014, 05:07:26 PM |
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With all this talk of enormous willies flying all over the place, how do we know anyone on here is real?
Better question is "why the hell should we care about it". I don't give a shit who launched us to 1000
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May 26, 2014, 05:11:40 PM |
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Seriously, if a SINGLE BOT can be the major reason for the bitcoin bubble in December then we need to make a TON of 'em and mass produce these guys!
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MatTheCat
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May 26, 2014, 05:12:21 PM |
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I don't give a shit who launched us to 1000 That's because you are a phucking idiot though. Seriously, if a SINGLE BOT can be the major reason for the bitcoin bubble in December then we need to make a TON of 'em and mass produce these guys! Problem with FAKE BTC and FAKE FIAT being used to bid up the FAKE price, is that it is all FAKE and take the trickery away and there is only one logical outcome when the market reverses back to relying on REAL trade.
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igorr
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May 26, 2014, 05:14:27 PM |
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YogoH
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May 26, 2014, 05:18:24 PM |
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I don't give a shit who launched us to 1000 That's because you are a phucking idiot though. Seriously, if a SINGLE BOT can be the major reason for the bitcoin bubble in December then we need to make a TON of 'em and mass produce these guys! Problem with FAKE BTC and FAKE FIAT being used to bid up the FAKE price, is that it is all FAKE and take the trickery away and there is only one logical outcome when the market reverses back to relying on REAL trade. Wrong. Willy bot was less than 15% of volume on Mtgox. Mtgox did not lead us up, that was China. Remember you throwing hissy fit about china controlling the prices? 15% of an exchange that was like 10% of overall volume for all exchanges.
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May 26, 2014, 05:18:52 PM |
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willy bot is just the tip of the iceberg.
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igorr
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May 26, 2014, 05:20:14 PM |
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willy bot is just the tip of the iceberg.
Below is world darkcoins
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MatTheCat
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May 26, 2014, 05:25:39 PM |
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Wrong.
Willy bot was less than 15% of volume on Mtgox.
Mtgox did not lead us up, that was China. Remember you throwing hissy fit about china controlling the prices?
15% of an exchange that was like 10% of overall volume for all exchanges.
I suspect that all the exchanges are corrupt to a certain degree. Think about it. Totally unregulated exchanges with the opportunity to rake incredible amounts of wealth by simply setting a few trading Bots to pump and/or crash the market and continually skim off real wealth from real investors!? If the Chinese can do fake medicine, electronic gadgets, and even fake rice, they can certainly do fake Bitcoins. As for this statement: " Willy bot was less than 15% of volume on Mtgox." That is an enormous amount considering that Willy only ever bought Bitcoins!
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