Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

[JorgeStolfi]

big time miner gone offline?

Blockchain.info charts are buggy, and they apparently don't read their feedback thread.  The last points in the hashrate chart and maybe some other charts are usually wrong.

[adamstgBit]

big time miner gone offline?

Blockchain.info charts are buggy, and they apparently don't read their feedback thread.  The last points in the hashrate chart and maybe some other charts are usually wrong.

its changed now

now if they could only fix it so it sees the new blocks...

[inca]

Why are we hanging around $400 now? Prices are way too high still. Last winter, $400 would have sounded good... but a year of bear market later, $400 for a digital token sounds like a joke. Nobody will be buying at these prices!

Given the market sentiment, the "true value" should be no more than $250 right now, so we still have quite a ways to go.

Are you really that stupid?

[empowering]

Has anyone else here ever tried to buy something on Alibada? All I ever get is a list of wholesalers.

I have bought some stuff. And i will say it to You dont buy electronics like TV, Phone, Tablet. You can get broken pice or not working. Need to be very careful when You order from alibaba or aliexpress.

Share now trading at $96.42 a share, up more than 40%.

Holy crap..

It actually opened at $92.

Ipo max bid was 68 i think

It opened at $92.70

what is it now

what's it market cap?

$90.73 and market cap is around 225 Billion (just shy) at moment (it pumped to $99.5)

Institutional investors made over 5 billion in past 24 hours

[fonsie]

I earned 1 BTC in 5 minutes with $BABA, not to bad 

[Richy_T]

Chartbuddy rewatching beanie babies documentary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIhu5XxXKxA

[MoreFun]

I earned 1 BTC in 5 minutes with $BABA, not to bad 

You can actually trade stocks with BTC anywhere or you just made $400?

[Torque]

Dat PPC PnD bubble pop.. on its way back to $0.70

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/btce/ppcusd

[oda.krell]

Has anyone else here ever tried to buy something on Alibada? All I ever get is a list of wholesalers.

Did you try aliexpress.com ?
They have good prices but it pays off to compare them with amazon or eBay, especially since shipping from China is very slow.

just used it for the first time a few days ago.

wanted to look up reviews/trust ratings, and it's fucking hilarious to see US reviewers bashing them for everything, from importing cholera to orphanages to copyright infringement, and of course the entire site's one big scam.

in reality, it's just a merchant aggregator like ebay (or amazon marketplace), but the vitriolic dislike of ye olde world citizens against our new Chinese overlords spills over in moments like that, I suppose

[fonsie]

I earned 1 BTC in 5 minutes with $BABA, not to bad 

You can actually trade stocks with BTC anywhere or you just made $400?

No, 550$ to be exact, so a bit more than 1 BTC. Can't buy stocks with BTC yet.

[adamstgBit]

Dat PPC PnD bubble pop..

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/btce/ppcusd

its too bad no one ever wants to make bets with me ...

[QuestionAuthority]

Share now trading at $96.42 a share, up more than 40%.

Holy crap..

It actually opened at $92.

What is this alibaba IPO thing anyway??

What has it to do with crypto?

This BABA IPO has just turned Alibaba into one of the biggest companies in the world, at current cap , almost bigger than Amazon and Ebay together...
Chinese company, with "worlds biggest digital ecosystem" they are like a mixture between Ebay, Paypal, Facebook and Youtube..
 there is a possibility some BTC holders sold (the dip yesterday) to get some liquid funds today to ride what I think is going to be a pump today/this week. If they flip on the pump then they (being any BTC holders playing this trade) could return with their profits.

Options start in a few weeks,  think this is going to be rocky ride for BABA.

Also down the line if Alibaba become BTC friendly... it could be a good thing... at the moment they are anti BTC.

I think you're dreaming. Real investors don't give an ideological rats ass about Bitcoin. They will just take their money and move to the next big investment.

Dreaming about what? I am talking about BTC holders that are also speculators ... am I dreaming that there are speculators involved in Bitcoin, and Chinese speculators involved in Bitcoin? do you think? I do not think so.

Is it improbable that a Chinese/American speculator that is speculating in Bitcoin, might just be interested in one of the biggest IPO's of all time and the biggest IPO of a Chinese company ever?  

I think it is quite likely that a) some Chinese/Global BTC owners, (and BTC holders in general) are speculators and that some of those speculators would be interested in speculating in the biggest Chinese IPO ever , it is a tech company, and chinese one at that.... or do you suppose that speculators in BTC are only interested in BTC? I think not... not all but some, and more likely ones with deep pockets will be interested in speculating in different and interesting markets...  especially a quick opportunity to flip the pump (launched at $92.70 and spiked to $99.5 in minutes before a sell off... that there is profit)

Speculators like profit, some speculators are BTC speculators, = BABA IPO 1st day retail pump = opportunity to speculate and profit.

I don't think they will come running back to Bitcoin just because Bitcoin. The money will flow wherever there is a large quick profit.

[Post-Cosmic]

BABA = totally nutz

Wonder if the $68  IPO - will turn to $100 per share by the end of the day.....


at this rate they will have a cap similar to Walmart...  crazy

Let the retail fun start.....

Opened seconds ago!!  Opened at $92.70

Billions just got made on a 24 hr flip   fuckers I think it is more like 10 thieves that forty ; )

Let the games begin, and in a few weeks... the options will come..  ha

just a few cents fom $100 already !

Pump it UP

 Lol.

 It takes this much of a once/twice-per-decade equities event to lurch you guys out of your cryptobubble stupor..?

 

 Wake up. Fiat assets have VOLUME. As many orders of magnitude more than BTC markets do, as BTC/USD markets themselves have in comparison to BTC/Altcoin ones. This means even though it's all old, musty, bankster-smelly & regulated, all that volume is able to MOVE prices every day.

 And they offer -LEVERAGE-, real leverage, from 1:15 to 1:50/100 to 1:500 & even 1:1000 (beyond that much means it's scam brokers/websites though so be wary). This means see that $75-77 per FB share up there, 2 weeks after it hit a temporary bottom of $62..? You can multiply that ~20% gain by 15 at 1:15 leverage. Plus500, AvaFX & InstaForex offer 1:20 to 1:50 for individual stock CFD's, and up to 1:100/300 for Stock Index CFD's like Dow-Jones, British FTSE, NASDAQ, etc. 15 x 20% is 300%. 50 x 20% makes 1000%. Just because of one predictably good Quarterly Earnings results that everyone & their mother expected to be.

 The 3 services mentioned above offer BTC withdrawal/deposits. The one I've used since early this year, 1Broker, uses ONLY instant BTC deposits/withdrawals & thus has users trade in btc-denominated positions, and profits / losses / account balances, not an ounce of fiat anywhere except in the fiat-priced traditional forex assets live feeds, of course.

 Crypto is awesome, but cryptotrading has done nothing but lose me, and a larger-than-average % of leverage traders, our money, while, for leveraged trading at least (aka the only way to really make bank without waiting a decade), fiat-asset trading offers a lot more leverage and volume, giving us small-timers the opportunity to close positions with small profits every day, compounding to consistent wealth over time, without idling for months and years in the dark waiting for 'a miraculous bitcoin moonbubble just one more time'.

[kodtycoon]

I earned 1 BTC in 5 minutes with $BABA, not to bad 

You can actually trade stocks with BTC anywhere or you just made $400?

No, 550$ to be exact, so a bit more than 1 BTC. Can't buy stocks with BTC yet.

anyone know if it would be possible to build a site for trading btc against stocks? like etoro, except you load your account with btc.. im actually surprised something like that hasnt been built yet? would there be a reason it hasnt been done?

[ShroomsKit]

400 and nobody dares to buy above it. 1 dump and we're on our way to 350.
I wonder if those in denial are finally starting to see what i mean. It isn't going up anymore after you got your cheap coins. Those days are over. No more free money. You destroyed something amazing with idiotic trading and dumping and obsessing over cheap coins.
But whatever. Just keep cheering every time we go down.

The sad part is even if we do go up again you will all do it again. You will keep doing this till Bitcoin is completely dead. Only then will you people be satisfied.
It's so bad that such an amazing technology has to suffer because of endless amounts of greed.

[empowering]

I earned 1 BTC in 5 minutes with $BABA, not to bad 

You can actually trade stocks with BTC anywhere or you just made $400?

Just sent me all of your Bitcoins and I can send you back some stock certs no problemo ; )

[Torque]

Dat PPC PnD bubble pop..

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/btce/ppcusd

its too bad no one ever wants to make bets with me ...

I know, who didn't see that one from a mile away?  And someone actually PnD'd Feathercoin, wtf.  Monero going down too...

[empowering]

Share now trading at $96.42 a share, up more than 40%.

Holy crap..

It actually opened at $92.

What is this alibaba IPO thing anyway??

What has it to do with crypto?

This BABA IPO has just turned Alibaba into one of the biggest companies in the world, at current cap , almost bigger than Amazon and Ebay together...
Chinese company, with "worlds biggest digital ecosystem" they are like a mixture between Ebay, Paypal, Facebook and Youtube..
 there is a possibility some BTC holders sold (the dip yesterday) to get some liquid funds today to ride what I think is going to be a pump today/this week. If they flip on the pump then they (being any BTC holders playing this trade) could return with their profits.

Options start in a few weeks,  think this is going to be rocky ride for BABA.

Also down the line if Alibaba become BTC friendly... it could be a good thing... at the moment they are anti BTC.

I think you're dreaming. Real investors don't give an ideological rats ass about Bitcoin. They will just take their money and move to the next big investment.

Dreaming about what? I am talking about BTC holders that are also speculators ... am I dreaming that there are speculators involved in Bitcoin, and Chinese speculators involved in Bitcoin? do you think? I do not think so.

Is it improbable that a Chinese/American speculator that is speculating in Bitcoin, might just be interested in one of the biggest IPO's of all time and the biggest IPO of a Chinese company ever?  

I think it is quite likely that a) some Chinese/Global BTC owners, (and BTC holders in general) are speculators and that some of those speculators would be interested in speculating in the biggest Chinese IPO ever , it is a tech company, and chinese one at that.... or do you suppose that speculators in BTC are only interested in BTC? I think not... not all but some, and more likely ones with deep pockets will be interested in speculating in different and interesting markets...  especially a quick opportunity to flip the pump (launched at $92.70 and spiked to $99.5 in minutes before a sell off... that there is profit)

Speculators like profit, some speculators are BTC speculators, = BABA IPO 1st day retail pump = opportunity to speculate and profit.

I don't think they will come running back to Bitcoin just because Bitcoin. The money will flow wherever there is a large quick profit.

Maybe... maybe not that much is in question.. but not inconceivable if they were speculators in BTC in the first place that they play their hand and take their profit... some of it coudl well end up ina hole in the water fund, and some of it could end up back in BTC...  people juggle y'know... I know I do when it is the right thing to do, not with BTC, but then I am not everyone.

[BBmmBB]

$299 coming here ?  

[JorgeStolfi]

Browsing idly through https://btc.blockr.io/ I found a page with the highest fees paid.  There is one transaction with 200 BTC real outputs and a 200 BTC fee, in 2013-Aug-28:

https://btc.blockr.io/tx/info/4ed20e0768124bc67dc684d57941be1482ccdaa45dadb64be12afba8c8554537

It pulled 10 inputs of 20 BTC and one of ~301 BTC (1AUyzod...), paid 20 outputs of 20 BTC and a change-back of ~101 BTC (to 1AUyzod...).

Price was ~120 USD/BTC then, so it was a 24'000 USD tip for the lucky miner.  That must have been a mistake by the user, right?