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[5cMXezpBtm]

Just let the price go up to 5 000 USD in the next months and this crisis philosophy will be over, I bet...

[QuestionAuthority]

Regardless of what I believe, telling "total bullshit because that creates new money" is wrong, if you care about that sort of thing.
Sustaining Bitcoin's price by lying to investors is fraud, no matter how you couch that.

Fraud? It's not fraud to tell someone you believe the value of Bitcoin is going to double or triple or whatever unless you attach a timeframe and profit from it personally. Being generally positive is just believing in Bitcoin.

But that's not what we're talking about.  We're talking about this:

I like the continuous to the moon talk even if it is total bullshit because that creates new money.

That's right. It's advertizing. You mean you people don't realize you are running a continuous Bitcoin advertisement? You know negative ads sell just like positive ones. That just sells the opposite outcome. People love Andreas because he sells a constant positive image of Bitcoin. People here are just as likely to sell a negative one. They may be telling what they honestly believe about the short term but it still can be a self fulling prophesy.

With a name like "QuestionAuthority," I sorta assumed that you tried for a moral highground.  Justifications along the lines of "if it's OK for selling used cars, it's fine for selling Bitcoin" are absurd.  Even from purely pragmatic standpoint.  When there's so much ideology and politics in the mix, lying backfires.

Just like your bluff 500BTC bet backfired--you were called on it, and had to do a lulzy backpeddle.  Not a win.

*I do not love Andreas or any shills, for that matter.  We're not selling timeshares.  We're trying to change the world.

If you're looking at my name for an answer, the authority I'm questioning are the people in this thread constantly giving advise as if they have a crystal ball. I didn't do a lutzy back peddle I flatly admitted it. In case it's not obvious yet, I don't really give a flying fuck about what anyone in this thread thinks because I think you're all full of shit anyway. If your going to be full of shit anyway at least make it positive.

Who doesn't like Andreas! You have a funny way of changing the world, posing as an authority and preaching about profit? What world are you trying to create exactly?

[NotLambchop]

With a name like "QuestionAuthority," I sorta assumed that you tried for a moral highground.  Justifications along the lines of "if it's OK for selling used cars, it's fine for selling Bitcoin" are absurd.  Even from purely pragmatic standpoint.  When there's so much ideology and politics in the mix, lying backfires.

Just like your bluff 500BTC bet backfired--you were called on it, and had to do a lulzy backpeddle.  Not a win.

*I do not love Andreas or any shills, for that matter.  We're not selling timeshares.  We're trying to change the world.

Do you really think Andreas is just a shill?  I haven't read everything he's written about bitcoin, but my past impression of him was that he was earnestly trying to educate people about Bitcoin technology.  I never got the impression that he was trying to mislead anyone.

Otherwise, I agree wholeheartedly with the thesis of your posts above.

Sorry, that came off all wrong.  He's not just a shill, let me retract that.  Typed without thinking.

[ubercool]

downtrend is over?

For time being yes, that 28k wall was main points where it's turn the bearish to bullish.

[Davyd05]

@ QuestionAuthority

I think all that the member you're discussing with does is troll, save your self from letting him accomplish his goal of wasting your time. I think your point is clear and for the most validated by how much shit I gotta wade through..and I am not referring to bearish sentiment as shit.

[NotLambchop]

Regardless of what I believe, telling "total bullshit because that creates new money" is wrong, if you care about that sort of thing.
Sustaining Bitcoin's price by lying to investors is fraud, no matter how you couch that.

Fraud? It's not fraud to tell someone you believe the value of Bitcoin is going to double or triple or whatever unless you attach a timeframe and profit from it personally. Being generally positive is just believing in Bitcoin.

But that's not what we're talking about.  We're talking about this:

I like the continuous to the moon talk even if it is total bullshit because that creates new money.

That's right. It's advertizing. You mean you people don't realize you are running a continuous Bitcoin advertisement? You know negative ads sell just like positive ones. That just sells the opposite outcome. People love Andreas because he sells a constant positive image of Bitcoin. People here are just as likely to sell a negative one. They may be telling what they honestly believe about the short term but it still can be a self fulling prophesy.

With a name like "QuestionAuthority," I sorta assumed that you tried for a moral highground.  Justifications along the lines of "if it's OK for selling used cars, it's fine for selling Bitcoin" are absurd.  Even from purely pragmatic standpoint.  When there's so much ideology and politics in the mix, lying backfires.

Just like your bluff 500BTC bet backfired--you were called on it, and had to do a lulzy backpeddle.  Not a win.

*I do not love Andreas or any shills, for that matter.  We're not selling timeshares.  We're trying to change the world.

If you're looking at my name for an answer, the authority I'm questioning are the people in this thread constantly giving advise as if they have a crystal ball. I didn't do a lutzy back peddle I flatly admitted it...

And you're lying still.  You challenged a user to a bet, and, after he accepted, you claimed that anything less than 500BTC was "not interesting" enough for you.
Only after being called out by multiple users did you admit to bluffing.
Own it before digging yourself in further.

[Cheeseonastick]

I have procured some additional data. My analysis of the current situation is that the price is going to go down in the next 6-8 hours, and then it will go up.

[QuestionAuthority]

@ QuestionAuthority

I think all that the member you're discussing with does is troll, save your self from his letting him accomplish his goal of wasting your time. I think your point is clear and for the most validated by how much shit I gotta wade through..and I am not referring to bearish sentiment as shit.

Ah, got it thanks. I'll just leave you with this then.

[Davyd05]

@ QuestionAuthority

I think all that the member you're discussing with does is troll, save your self from his letting him accomplish his goal of wasting your time. I think your point is clear and for the most validated by how much shit I gotta wade through..and I am not referring to bearish sentiment as shit.

Ah, got it thanks. I'll just leave you with this then.

I'll see you there

[NotLambchop]

@ QuestionAuthority

I think all that the member you're discussing with does is troll, save your self from his letting him accomplish his goal of wasting your time. I think your point is clear and for the most validated by how much shit I gotta wade through..and I am not referring to bearish sentiment as shit.

Ah, got it thanks. I'll just leave you with this then.

[octaft]

Can't respond properly to someones argument? Call 'em a troll and you don't have to! Easy game.

[superresistant]

 
Well whales... you don't have any Bitcoin left it seems...

[Raystonn]

Oh that's right.  We were discussing Bitcoin...

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation

[5cMXezpBtm]

Is there a graph of post frequency in this thread? I always wondered about the correlation between that and the Bitcoin price. Thought of implementing that graph, but had no time (taken). I know it's bad to talk than just to do, but maybe it already exists?

[adamstgBit]

Well whales... you don't have any Bitcoin left it seems...

lol they're just fucking with us.

[5cMXezpBtm]

Well whales... you don't have any Bitcoin left it seems...

lol they're just fucking with us.

or saving us. There have been some posts of whales (do not know if they really are) in this thread in the time at about 300 USD I think, that stated something like "now I'll stop that. I know You got no ammo anymore"...

Wow, that's speculating... from my micro point of view...

maybe saving is also only a kind of fucking...

[manfred]

Is there a graph of post frequency in this thread? I always wondered about the correlation between that and the Bitcoin price. Thought of implementing that graph, but had no time (taken). I know it's bad to talk than just to do, but maybe it already exists?

There used to be one back in the old days (new topics, new posts, new members, page views)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=232865.msg2631006#msg2631006

[adamstgBit]

Well whales... you don't have any Bitcoin left it seems...

lol they're just fucking with us.

or saving us. There have been some posts of whales (do not know if they really are) in this thread in the time at about 300 USD I think, that stated something like "now I'll stop that. I know You got no ammo anymore"...

Wow, that's speculating... from my micro point of view...

maybe saving is also only a kind of fucking...

if market has any brains it will stop rising at like 350-400 and HOLD, waiting for selloffs, there will be sell offs... poeple need to get rich quick!

alsa market is stupid as shit. TO THE MOOON!!!!!!!!!!!

[Torque]

Well whales... you don't have any Bitcoin left it seems...

Shhh. Careful, they may hear you and dump on your head just for fun..