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October 21, 2014, 01:00:45 PM


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October 21, 2014, 01:02:57 PM

Volume is totally absurd these last days, doesn't look like an accumulation at all. Any reason, the experts?

There is no accumulation. There is no big money dying to get in. There are no whales secretly buying tons of coins.
There is no evidence for this.
The only reason you might think this is happening is because of a bunch of delusional posters here who just kept repeating it until they believed it is a fact.

The only buyers are some new guys who quickly leave again after their investment is worth 10% less within 2 hours because of the dumpers.

soon enough, patience is crucial Wink

What will happen soon enough? Been hearing that for the last 10 months. When exactly is soon?
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October 21, 2014, 01:09:18 PM

And another pump and dump starting.
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October 21, 2014, 01:10:49 PM

400$ incoming!
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October 21, 2014, 01:17:38 PM

Volume is totally absurd these last days, doesn't look like an accumulation at all. Any reason, the experts?

There is no accumulation. There is no big money dying to get in. There are no whales secretly buying tons of coins.
There is no evidence for this.
The only reason you might think this is happening is because of a bunch of delusional posters here who just kept repeating it until they believed it is a fact.

The only buyers are some new guys who quickly leave again after their investment is worth 10% less within 2 hours because of the dumpers.


Shroomie and Shroomie followers (Shroomie has had me on ignore since forever b/c he seems to enjoy being blinded to any views that may differ from his own, so I am NOT really writing my response for that broken-record fucktard): 

There is more convincing evidence of the BTC accumulation theory than Shroomie's fucked-up "constant dump" theory....   

Shroomie and other down in the dumpsters, should just get the fuck out of BTC if you guys believe that BTC will never go up again or that BTC is so dumped upon that it is never gonna become profitable for regular people who are investing into its future.

The reality of the matter is that there is continuous and constant building of various aspects of the BTC space/infrastructure, and there are a lot of BTC liquidation opportunities through various BTC accepting exchanges and BTC investment vehicles and BTC accepting venders and even BTC ATMs that were NOT very prevalent in the BTC space one year ago.

Even BTC related regulation has had various ups and downs around the world, but seems to be much less hostile towards BTC than a lot of people had imagined a year ago. 

Yes, there could be better developments and better user-friendly BTC interfaces, but even the Apple pay system could provide various ideas of user-interface vehicles for BTC - while at the same time BTC retains much more value overall than Apple pay because BTC is much more than a payment system and much less controlled, and more independent and more versatile than Apple pay, which in the longer term will cause BTC to be a much better investment vehicle and storage of value - even though in the short term, it appears that BTC is suffering from market manipulation... from various dumper whales (or even the scaring off of regular investors, as you indicate).    There is NO doubt that Apple pay is going to expand into various ways into the payment space; however, there is room for other players (including BTC).

In the end, it remains highly probable that we are gonna experience an exponential upsurge in BTC prices - even though such exponential upsurge could take several more months to materialize.  Also, there is NO real indication that BTC is going to be manipulated out of existence, as Shroomie seems to be continuing to repeat through broken record "nattering nabobs of negativism."
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October 21, 2014, 01:32:48 PM

Volume is totally absurd these last days, doesn't look like an accumulation at all. Any reason, the experts?

There is no accumulation. There is no big money dying to get in. There are no whales secretly buying tons of coins.
There is no evidence for this.
The only reason you might think this is happening is because of a bunch of delusional posters here who just kept repeating it until they believed it is a fact.

The only buyers are some new guys who quickly leave again after their investment is worth 10% less within 2 hours because of the dumpers.

soon enough, patience is crucial Wink

What will happen soon enough? Been hearing that for the last 10 months. When exactly is soon?

Depends on what you are talking about, but we will get out of the 300s and into the high 400s in a month or so. Theres no reason to be impatient with bitcoin. Just ride the waves and don't get too narrowsighted.
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October 21, 2014, 01:36:35 PM

I want to see trains.
Preferably with rockets mounted.

instaedit: nevermind. choochoo. Here we go.
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October 21, 2014, 01:41:15 PM

huobi wall is back
https://i.imgur.com/BvzhbIT.png
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October 21, 2014, 01:41:51 PM
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I want to see trains.
Preferably with rockets mounted.
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Will this do?



Edit:  Oh well...

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October 21, 2014, 01:54:47 PM

apple pay is only available on apple products right?

the products that even most rich westerners finance because they can't blow $600 on a phone

yeah thats gonna take over the world where global average income is like $200 a month lol
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October 21, 2014, 01:57:24 PM

apple pay is only available on apple products right?

the products that even most rich westerners finance because they can't blow $600 on a phone

yeah thats gonna take over the world where global average income is like $200 a month lol
Forget apple play, it's just ordinary fiat molded into a new form.
It just shows 'they' are afraid. Should be enough to go all in on bitcoin
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October 21, 2014, 02:00:46 PM


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October 21, 2014, 02:04:16 PM

apple pay is only available on apple products right?

the products that even most rich westerners finance because they can't blow $600 on a phone

yeah thats gonna take over the world where global average income is like $200 a month lol
There is nothing new with Apple Pay.
Google wallet was created two years ago with the same concept.
https://i.imgur.com/pUKUkWL.jpg
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October 21, 2014, 02:04:22 PM

apple pay is only available on apple products right?

the products that even most rich westerners finance because they can't blow $600 on a phone

yeah thats gonna take over the world where global average income is like $200 a month lol

Don't be ridiculous.  If Apple Pay takes off, the phones will be free!  Do CC companies charge you for the plastic/chip/magstrip that is your CC?
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@findftp: Trusted fiat + exciting, convenient wrapper = pure win!

@touhonoob:  Does Google Wallet offer you a chance to flash your fashionable iProduct each time you pay?
Didn't think so.
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October 21, 2014, 02:07:35 PM

apple pay is only available on apple products right?

the products that even most rich westerners finance because they can't blow $600 on a phone

yeah thats gonna take over the world where global average income is like $200 a month lol

Don't be ridiculous.  If Apple Pay takes off, the phones will be free!  Do CC companies charge you for the plastic/chip/magstrip that is your CC?
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@findftp: Trusted fiat + exciting, convenient wrapper = pure win!

one is a 20 cent piece of plastic the other a 600 dollar phone. rdiculous comparison
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October 21, 2014, 02:12:18 PM

apple pay is only available on apple products right?

the products that even most rich westerners finance because they can't blow $600 on a phone

yeah thats gonna take over the world where global average income is like $200 a month lol

Don't be ridiculous.  If Apple Pay takes off, the phones will be free!  Do CC companies charge you for the plastic/chip/magstrip that is your CC?
Cool

@findftp: Trusted fiat + exciting, convenient wrapper = pure win!

one is a 20 cent piece of plastic the other a 600 dollar phone. rdiculous comparison

Do you really think an iPhone costs $600 to make?  Do you know how much moolah Apple will make in fees over the lifespan of an iDevice?  Don't you think Apple could cludge together a crappy cheap iPhone Mini for the poor people?
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October 21, 2014, 02:20:18 PM

apple pay is only available on apple products right?

the products that even most rich westerners finance because they can't blow $600 on a phone

yeah thats gonna take over the world where global average income is like $200 a month lol

Don't be ridiculous.  If Apple Pay takes off, the phones will be free!  Do CC companies charge you for the plastic/chip/magstrip that is your CC?
Cool

@findftp: Trusted fiat + exciting, convenient wrapper = pure win!

one is a 20 cent piece of plastic the other a 600 dollar phone. rdiculous comparison

Do you really think an iPhone costs $600 to make?  Do you know how much moolah Apple will make in fees over the lifespan of an iDevice?  Don't you think Apple could cludge together a crappy cheap iPhone Mini for the poor people?

Hmm...Let's just assume Apple gets 1% per Transaction...that means 60.000$ transactions / year gets them about the same money as an iphone...i don't know anyone who spends 5k / year with credit card...
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October 21, 2014, 02:22:41 PM

Let's see if we break 400 this time. After that we will be at 420 quickly.
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October 21, 2014, 02:24:48 PM

Can the madness go on forever ?


No. But nor can they apply the brakes. Arguably we have passed the tipping point.
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October 21, 2014, 02:25:11 PM

apple pay is only available on apple products right?

the products that even most rich westerners finance because they can't blow $600 on a phone

yeah thats gonna take over the world where global average income is like $200 a month lol

Don't be ridiculous.  If Apple Pay takes off, the phones will be free!  Do CC companies charge you for the plastic/chip/magstrip that is your CC?
Cool

@findftp: Trusted fiat + exciting, convenient wrapper = pure win!

one is a 20 cent piece of plastic the other a 600 dollar phone. rdiculous comparison

Do you really think an iPhone costs $600 to make?  Do you know how much moolah Apple will make in fees over the lifespan of an iDevice?  Don't you think Apple could cludge together a crappy cheap iPhone Mini for the poor people?

Hmm...Let's just assume Apple gets 1% per Transaction...that means 60.000$ transactions / year gets them about the same money as an iphone...i don't know anyone who spends 5k / year with credit card...

You don't know anyone who spends 5k a year with CC?  Nice to meet you Smiley
*And that's assuming that an iPhone costs $600 to make (false), and that it will be tossed in a year (false).
And that it couldn't be offered via subscription (false).
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