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November 06, 2014, 10:01:44 PM

Hmm a risky approach there empowering. Your lack of fear will be disturbing. Courage being contagious and all, they may extinguish the fire that is you before it spreads Sad
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November 06, 2014, 10:04:21 PM
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If a person was going to operate on the dark net, it would make sense to
a) never brag or talk about anything to do with it , ever , in RL, or on the internets, even using a pseudonym
b) never use any RL indentifiers ever
c) use cash bought throw away notebooks, cycle for new every x weeks
d) use TOR but also through a fresh temporary OS live install from a USB , i.e TAILs or live linux distro - close down after every use
e) never use their own internet connection or one tied to you in anyway (even better super dark satellite phone in a moving car on motorway)
f) have a distributed distribution network (the weakest point and really to pull off needs organised connections)
g) create brand names but cycle their darksite operations (better yet use openbazzar etc in future)
h) be paranoid and reclusive
i) not get involved unless they have super discipline

Congratulations, that constitutes probable cause. All your communications are now being closely followed. Jurisdiction is irrelevant. The recordings of all your phone, cell phone and internet useage during the past five years will be analyzed for possible illegal activity. You should assume that encryption provided by your VPN is backdoored.

That makes sense. Like we're not monitored anyway... Tongue
Seriously now, anyone who knows THE BASICS of online security won't go ONLINE to do ANYTHING illegal. Online and secret consist a schema oxymoron.

Step 1 smash your computer and your phone

Step 2 go to the middle of a forest

Step 3 get collecting that lichen and birch bark

Step 4 build pit and make fire

Step 5 find a deer to kick to death

Step 6 dinner

*Step 7 Wear dear carcass as a hat/makeshift bivouac  
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November 06, 2014, 10:09:52 PM

Gathering by the momentum of the sustained rally, looks like SR 2.0 didn't matter.  Grin
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November 06, 2014, 10:15:04 PM
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Hmm a risky approach there empowering. Your lack of fear will be disturbing. Courage being contagious and all, they may extinguish the fire that is you before it spreads Sad


Nah... this stuff is already "common" public knowledge, been available and in the public domain for years and years,  I am not saying anything new nor exciting... I already know that everyone out there with an interest in the topics surrounding cryptography, white or black hat hack,  and what they label "individuals with an interest in extreme privacy" are already most likely flagged for interest. I have nothing to fear, because my story is very simple. I just thought I would chip into the discussion on darkweb and the online drug thang, as some have pointed out the people that got caught , got caught because they were daft, and I am surprised they were that daft tbh. Really shocking. The methods mentioned are taught by governments themselves in fact,   where do you think I got this shit from? ha ha  ; )   The methodology on top of the technology is already used by agents and activists globally. Personally I just find it a fascinating subject, hence my input.

I gots nothing to hide so they can look at me all they like, I am currently, in stark contrast to the thought experiment I outlined above, using my laptop from a home connection, in my humble home, all very drab, plus I love my life, my freedom and to travel,  and so I would never do anything to put that at risk, certainly not for money or bitcoin or all the tea in china.

(also my own checklist excludes me from doing anything of such interest, as obviously I am talking about it openly, rule 1. And as Jorge would say, my interest is purely academic)

(though if the GCHQ want to offer me a job, please do, plus bonus they already have all my details to send the forms to Grin)
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November 06, 2014, 10:25:44 PM

Gathering by the momentum of the sustained rally, looks like SR 2.0 didn't matter.  Grin

S.R 2.0 did not matter for shit.
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November 06, 2014, 10:29:15 PM

God i hope at least this new Silk 2.0 idiot at least encrypted his wallets. He was bragging about his security so that'd be rule #1.

I wonder how many time people had to rebuy their own coins. Buy BTC keep them on SR...have in confiscated by FBI purchase that coin again at FBI sale, store that coin at Gox...buy that same coin from "hacker", transfer it to SR2...wait for FBI sale to buy your coin yet again.  
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November 06, 2014, 10:37:27 PM

The FBI claim that Benthall's unencrypted computer contained "address lists for customers all over the world that will be of significant interest to many global law enforcement agencies."

So pro.
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November 06, 2014, 10:39:34 PM

God i hope at least this new Silk 2.0 idiot at least encrypted his wallets. He was bragging about his security so that'd be rule #1.

I wonder how many time people had to rebuy their own coins. Buy BTC keep them on SR...have in confiscated by FBI purchase that coin again at FBI sale, store that coin at Gox...buy that same coin from "hacker", transfer it to SR2...wait for FBI sale to buy your coin yet again.  

Wouldn't count on it:

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The FBI claim that Benthall's unencrypted computer contained "address lists for customers all over the world that will be of significant interest to many global law enforcement agencies.

http://www.businessinsider.com/fbi-silk-road-seized-arrests-2014-11#ixzz3IJQe55SO
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November 06, 2014, 10:39:45 PM

The FBI claim that Benthall's unencrypted computer contained "address lists for customers all over the world that will be of significant interest to many global law enforcement agencies."

So pro.

These people.. wow. Such dicks LOL
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November 06, 2014, 10:40:30 PM

The FBI claim that Benthall's unencrypted computer contained "address lists for customers all over the world that will be of significant interest to many global law enforcement agencies."

So pro.

Scare tactics. What they most likely have are encrypted addresses. IOW jackshit.
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November 06, 2014, 10:43:45 PM

At least he got to drive a Tesla:

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The transactional records reflect that, since that date, BENTHALL has received a total of approximately 575.58 Bitcoins into the account through on or about October 28, 2014, and that BENTHALL has exchanged approximately 543.63 of those Bitcoins for United States currency, totaling $273,626.60.
I have reviewed emails from Benthall Email Account-1 reflecting that BENTHALL purchased a luxury vehicle with Bitcoins in late January 2014...BENTHALL made a down payment of approximately $70,000 in Bitcoins towards the purchase of a Tesla Model S, worth $127,000 in United States currency.
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November 06, 2014, 10:47:36 PM


Yes, hungry girls will work unsafe, degrading jobs because need trumps everything else.  What point are you trying to make?  That we should return to the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory days?  Sweatshops?  Child labor?  
Or are you asking for greater regulation of farm equipment safety?

Yes, factory girls work in less than ideal environments because like all of us, they take what they feel is the best of their available options. You seem to think that taking options away from people helps them. That doesn't make sense. That's what government regulation does: takes options away from people.

So you try to argue that employers are forced to make workers slave away in death-trap work places because they have to compete with other employers who do the same and if only Mommy Government could disrupt the Nash equilibrium, then everyone would be better off. You are not making the right comparisons. Governments do not give people better options. A growing economy that gives workers more choices for employment gives people better options. Sustainably growing economies are the result of capital formation (savings), innovation and risk-taking on the part of entrepreneurs. Were State-owned factories is the Soviet union models for efficiency and safety? To ask is to answer.
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November 06, 2014, 11:00:21 PM


Explanation
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November 06, 2014, 11:01:27 PM


Yes, hungry girls will work unsafe, degrading jobs because need trumps everything else.  What point are you trying to make?  That we should return to the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory days?  Sweatshops?  Child labor?  
Or are you asking for greater regulation of farm equipment safety?

Yes, factory girls work in less than ideal environments because like all of us, they take what they feel is the best of their available options. You seem to think that taking options away from people helps them. That doesn't make sense. That's what government regulation does: takes options away from people.

So you try to argue that employers are forced to make workers slave away in death-trap work places because they have to compete with other employers who do the same and if only Mommy Government could disrupt the Nash equilibrium, then everyone would be better off. You are not making the right comparisons. Governments do not give people better options. A growing economy that gives workers more choices for employment gives people better options. Sustainably growing economies are the result of capital formation (savings), innovation and risk-taking on the part of entrepreneurs. Were State-owned factories is the Soviet union models for efficiency and safety? To ask is to answer.

Truth lies, as almost always, somewhere in between. Life's boring that way.

Comrade Lambchop isn't really honestly stating his own beliefs when he pretends the all-loving embrace of the state is what keeps us from tearing each other apart, and on top of that, enables us in making progress towards the a state of permanent, effortless obesity bliss.

You on the other hand pick the worst government influence has to offer. For every factory the CCCP ran into the ground, I present to you one Swedish or Swiss model Mänüfaktör, based on some precarious balance between ego-driven entrepreneurship, cronyist worker representation, and forever-slow-to-adapt statism. Works pretty well though, so kind of hard to argue with that.
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November 06, 2014, 11:02:20 PM

I wonder how many time people had to rebuy their own coins. Buy BTC keep them on SR...have in confiscated by FBI purchase that coin again at FBI sale, store that coin at Gox...buy that same coin from "hacker", transfer it to SR2...wait for FBI sale to buy your coin yet again.  

And what psychoactive substance(s) did you happen to consume which let you senses all the possible future pasts?
A little hint for our common reality: Gox went down before the FBI auction
Though I understand why you would prefer the reality in which Gox died much earlier.
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November 06, 2014, 11:18:34 PM

No quoting the trolls pleeeeeease. I swear to god I will ignore you all.
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November 06, 2014, 11:19:30 PM

dont wanna start a conspiracy, but where the fuck is adam?  Shocked


last post is 31.10 o.o
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November 06, 2014, 11:20:36 PM

Where can I get me one of these factory bitches ? must have good teeth and good buttocks, can I pay in bitcoin and have one sent to me? need someone to rub my feet and collect my drugs and fend off all these incoming dang secret agents... maybe walk the dog, milk the cat, and harvest my rock vegetables.  
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November 06, 2014, 11:21:17 PM

Which is worth more 1 year from now?  1 Bitcoin or 10 of these inflationary notes:

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November 06, 2014, 11:22:01 PM

No quoting the trolls pleeeeeease. I swear to god I will ignore you all.

Come on, admit it! You're pressing the "Show this post" button every time don't you? Wink
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