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Question: How far will this leg take us?
$110K - 9 (8.3%)
$120K - 19 (17.6%)
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$140K - 9 (8.3%)
$150K - 19 (17.6%)
$160K - 2 (1.9%)
$170K+ - 33 (30.6%)
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November 09, 2014, 01:46:15 PM

Bitstamp criminals only have until Thursday to buy and GTFO before funds are seized by the UK.
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November 09, 2014, 01:49:30 PM

Shorters about to get destroyed.
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November 09, 2014, 01:50:30 PM

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November 09, 2014, 01:50:52 PM

It's a game of skill with an element of chance, which means it's definitely gambling, but the best will get the money in the long-term. I think that could apply to either poker or trading.

That was the point I was trying to make: either 'gambling' is just a way of saying "chance + skill", in which case, it applies to both poker and trading, and I'm okay with that. Or, if 'gambling' is supposed to mean "pure chance" (which is how justusranvier intended it, as far as I can tell), then empirical observations beg to disagree.
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November 09, 2014, 01:51:47 PM

Do you consider a competent poker player a "gambler"? If yes, I'm okay with calling the act of trading that as well: both are (risk controlled) finite resource bets on a stochastic process, based on the limited ability to predict future outcomes of that process.

If, on the other hand, a competent poker player is not a gambler, while a trader is, I would like to hear what makes predictions of the 'poker' process different from predictions of the 'market' process. Or, if both of them are gamblers, but neither of them has a chance to be EV+ in your view, then I'd like to see an explanation of why a competent poker player beats an incompetent time after time, (almost) independent of the cards that have been dealt. Been there myself, lost some money in the process Cheesy
Poker is not a pure game of chance in the same way that a slot machine is a pure game of chance. (I've added enough disclaimers about cheating in prior posts, so mentally insert them where appropriate)

I don't know exactly what mechanism makes trading a game of pure chance, but the evidence shows that it must be.

The first way we know is that because if a strategy existed which consistently resulted in EV+, then one single entity could follow it and eventually own the entire market, at which point it's no longer market. Markets continue to exist, therefore no EV+ strategy exists.

The other way we know it's a game of pure chance is because when enough data is collected on the lifetime behavior of all traders, the results are consistent with playing a game of chance, with about the number of outliers one would expect given the sample size (every once in a while 20 random coin flips will come up all heads in a row).
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November 09, 2014, 01:52:04 PM

Is there any gambling which is just pure chance? Russian Roulette? Most gambling refers to activities which are a combination of luck and skill. Things which are mainly skill are referred to as sport if I'm not mistaken.
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November 09, 2014, 01:53:09 PM

look at dat buying pressure on okcoin
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November 09, 2014, 01:54:47 PM

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November 09, 2014, 01:55:28 PM

$351.93 on Coinbase right now
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November 09, 2014, 01:56:45 PM

$351.93 on Coinbase right now

Cheap coins, grab em!
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November 09, 2014, 01:57:36 PM

no coins after 2200 left on huobi
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November 09, 2014, 01:58:07 PM

All we have to do is break through the resistance at 360, 370, 380, 390, 395, 400, 410, 420 (blaze it), 430, 440........1100, and then I can miss the opportunity to dump again!
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November 09, 2014, 01:58:48 PM

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November 09, 2014, 02:00:20 PM


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November 09, 2014, 02:02:10 PM

Really low volume...
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November 09, 2014, 02:04:18 PM

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November 09, 2014, 02:11:47 PM

already 1000 coins to 350
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November 09, 2014, 02:15:16 PM

Wow, look at the ask side LOL

1.1k btc to 382 Roll Eyes

I will be waiting for it to go down to 350 before I buy but i'm not sure I will even get that opportunity..
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