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November 14, 2014, 03:29:51 PM
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Are these 20x leverages something freshly introduced ?
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November 14, 2014, 03:49:37 PM

What is going on Huh

What's going on is we're up over 16% since a week ago. That in itself is pretty crazy, anything above 400 at this time is just incredible.

We're down 7.5% in 24hrs Undecided

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November 14, 2014, 03:50:19 PM

Are these 20x leverages something freshly introduced ?

quite risky, if you are going to leverage that much, basically your stop loss is the long/short price, so one better be sure of the trend.
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November 14, 2014, 03:50:32 PM

What is going on Huh

What's going on is we're up over 16% since a week ago. That in itself is pretty crazy, anything above 400 at this time is just incredible.

We're down 7.5% in 24hrs Undecided


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November 14, 2014, 03:51:11 PM

What is going on Huh

What's going on is we're up over 16% since a week ago. That in itself is pretty crazy, anything above 400 at this time is just incredible.

We're down 7.5% in 24hrs Undecided


We?

I'm so down.
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November 14, 2014, 03:51:44 PM

What is going on Huh

What's going on is we're up over 16% since a week ago. That in itself is pretty crazy, anything above 400 at this time is just incredible.

We're down 7.5% in 24hrs Undecided


We?

We.   <==and falling Sad
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November 14, 2014, 03:51:56 PM

Looks like we'll be headed back down for another month or two.
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November 14, 2014, 03:52:09 PM

What is going on Huh

What's going on is we're up over 16% since a week ago. That in itself is pretty crazy, anything above 400 at this time is just incredible.

We're down 7.5% in 24hrs Undecided


Yes, you'd expect a correction to follow a frenzy like we saw the past few days.
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November 14, 2014, 03:52:42 PM

What is going on Huh

What's going on is we're up over 16% since a week ago. That in itself is pretty crazy, anything above 400 at this time is just incredible.

We're down 7.5% in 24hrs Undecided

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November 14, 2014, 03:53:38 PM

What is going on Huh

What's going on is we're up over 16% since a week ago. That in itself is pretty crazy, anything above 400 at this time is just incredible.

We're down 7.5% in 24hrs Undecided


Yes, you'd expect a correction to follow a frenzy like we saw the past few days.

Lol @ teh euphemisms.  "Correction" has just begun Cheesy
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November 14, 2014, 03:54:41 PM

is it me or bitstamp is down?
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November 14, 2014, 03:57:46 PM

What is going on Huh

What's going on is we're up over 16% since a week ago. That in itself is pretty crazy, anything above 400 at this time is just incredible.

We're down 7.5% in 24hrs Undecided


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What is going on Huh

What's going on is we're up over 16% since a week ago. That in itself is pretty crazy, anything above 400 at this time is just incredible.

We're down 7.5% in 24hrs Undecided



So what! We will be > 100% in couple of months.
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November 14, 2014, 03:58:14 PM

What is going on Huh

What's going on is we're up over 16% since a week ago. That in itself is pretty crazy, anything above 400 at this time is just incredible.

We're down 7.5% in 24hrs Undecided

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Yes, also all of NotLambchop's one coin.
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November 14, 2014, 03:58:42 PM

Willy2.0 was beaten down by the nervous miners who don't want to ride this train any longer.
But I still think that the next couple of weeks could be interesting for those who trade. I think that BTC can go to 800$ tops, because the amount of coins held by miners, who have worked with a loss and accumulated a very large pile over these months. I highly doubt that there will be a strong enough buying interest to push through this heavy pile. My prediction is that BTC will experience an avalanche like never seen before in the near future, when the market realizes that it can't sustain the heavy cost of mining.
Anyway, I'm glad that someone tried to stimulate the market, because it made trading BTC fun again. In the longer timeframe, my aim is to accumulate PPC instead.

What great humor that can be provide through this thread............ PPC... good luck with that..  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

This isn't humor. Thanks though.


I do believe that you are on to something regarding your choice of an approximate $800 price point for your predicted tops.


I do NOT agree with your prediction because it is too bearish; however, I agree with you that there is likely going to be up and down movement of BTC prices (in other words plenty of built in BTC dumps) until prices return to around $800-ish.  I kept suggesting that the price point will be around $850 or so when that threshold is passed, the Viola.. We are inevitably on to a new ATH.

However, my thinking on this subject seems to have evolved a little bit, especially giving the recent and long bearish and extent of bearishness of the BTC market in the last year.  Accordingly, the threshold price could be lower than my previous $850-ish prediction and the rocket/train may take off at a lower price point - maybe into the lower $700s?  

Anyhow, once the rocket shoots BTC prices past the previous ATH, BTC prices will be pushed into the $3k to $13k range... and surely, I am engaged in a considerable amount of speculation regarding this point - but my speculation range relates to my understanding of adoption and developments around BTC and also my view that BTC prices have been artificially manipulated down for quite a bit of the last year and more so in the last 6 months.  In that regard, those who have been manipulating BTC prices downward, and/or allowing for the downward manipulation of BTC prices have been accumulating BTC, and at some point, they are going to want to pump BTC prices up to as high of a price as they can pump it (which will be the $3k to $13k range in the next cycle).  There will be upward manipulation and hype and onboarding of new money and various aspects of the masses... and some of the extent of the new onboarding of new money is a bit uncertain to know and a bit uncertain to know how much money is or could be waiting on the sidelines to jump  on board.. but there are a lot more avenues (now) to get into and to get out of BTC (as compared with the previous bubbles).






I consider my opinion, that BTC will touch 800 again, rather optimistic.
To me, it all boils down to ETF. Bitcoin mining is too expensive, and the pile of coins with high production cost, that are created with the sole purpose to be sold, is getting too heavy for the degenerate gamblers and their mortgages. Willy2.0 can only function if enough fiat will be left on exchanges. If people will want to withdraw their fiat, then willy will be goxed rather sooner then later. And industrial mining has risen the need for fiat to exit the exchanges.
My opinion about ETF is that it won't go through. There are too many unanswered questions that are critical. Like the criminal past of bitcoin and the ownership of coin. How can one prove that the majority of bitcoins aren't held by criminals who earned it through illegal activities, when bitcoin was only used as a tool for the black market? And the answer is that you can't prove it.
The only way that ETF will go though, is if the Winklevii will bribe the right people for it to go through. But I see the Winklevoss twins as great rowers and that's where their competence ends. To me, they're bitcoin salemen who believe their own BS. So, I don't expect them to be very clever while executing their plan.


At least you provided an explanation.  I believe it is incomplete and misguided and purposefully engaged in FUD spreading in order to create lack of confidence in BTC.... for example, your point about inability to prove whether criminals hold BTC.... ooofta... A lot of criminals hold cash too, including bankers (but they have NOT been convicted of anything because they are the "good" criminals  Cheesy)

My bet is on coins that are most practical in a financial perspective. I consider NuBits as a practical coin, because it actually has a mechanism to offer stability. And stability is the most important thing that determines the quality of an currency. Because I can't win by speculating on a stable coin, I have to speculate on PPC, that's value is tied to the success of NuBits.

Sometimes, I get the feeling that various BTC trolls (and BTC FUD spreaders) randomly pick and latch onto a coin (any coin) merely for the sake of distracting from BTC.  I have nothing against investing in various alt coins; however, probably, at this time, those investments into various alts should be a fraction of the BTC mostly based on the network effect and the market caps of the various alts compared with BTC.  Difficult to choose which of the random coins may take off or surge in value..   To each, his/her own on making these kinds of choices based on risk aversion, time line, view of probabilities, investment portfolio and funds, etc...


I would rather not dive into a long dialogue with you. For the most part of 2014, I have told that I can't see anything solid that would cause bitcoin unit value to rise without dropping more after.

Nothing wrong with this statement, and I don't feel any compelling reason to dive into any long dialogue either.


You have often replied to my speculations with long and emotional walls of text, that don't have much substance. This is just tiresome, so if you excuse me, then I would rather not continue our conversation beyond this post.

You could have made the first part of the statement without engaging in this second part to make adhominem attacks and mischaracterizations about me and my past posts.  Also, if you make these kinds of statements both substantive ones above and adhominem attacks below, you should NOT expect that you would have the right and/or privilege of having the last word on the topic(s).  Otherwise, I do NOT really have any great incentive to engage in a dialogue with you either because of reasons previously stated concerning my frequent assessment that you are spreading misinformation and/or talking your book rather than engaging in any productive dialogue regarding BTC.
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November 14, 2014, 04:00:16 PM

What is going on Huh

What's going on is we're up over 16% since a week ago. That in itself is pretty crazy, anything above 400 at this time is just incredible.

We're down 7.5% in 24hrs Undecided

We?

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I still hold some coin.  How many times does that need to be repeated?  
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November 14, 2014, 04:02:39 PM

What is going on Huh

What's going on is we're up over 16% since a week ago. That in itself is pretty crazy, anything above 400 at this time is just incredible.

We're down 7.5% in 24hrs Undecided


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What is going on Huh

What's going on is we're up over 16% since a week ago. That in itself is pretty crazy, anything above 400 at this time is just incredible.

We're down 7.5% in 24hrs Undecided



So what! We will be > 100% in couple of months.

Continue hodling Cool



Freshen your paper cup?
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November 14, 2014, 04:04:02 PM

What is going on Huh

What's going on is we're up over 16% since a week ago. That in itself is pretty crazy, anything above 400 at this time is just incredible.

We're down 7.5% in 24hrs Undecided

We?

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Welcome aboard Bitcoin hodler!

I still hold some coin.  How many times does that need to be repeated?  
I've not noticed you having a problem with repeating yourself.
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November 14, 2014, 04:04:24 PM

Looks like we'll be headed back down for another month or two.

Based on what exactly? Not on the charts.. These are still in between land and water as far as the trend is concerned. Not on the fundamentals either.
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November 14, 2014, 04:05:49 PM

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I've not noticed you having a problem with repeating yourself.

>I've not noticed

Where are you from, cbeast?
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Lurk moar.
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