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[shmadz]

13. Change the subject. This technique includes creating and/or publicizing distractions.

Well done trolls.

http://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm

I'm not sure how asking for transparent, honest money turned into communist ideals, but I have to say that the immediate and vehement propagation of your distracting posts leads me to confirm that you are not acting in the interest of the common good.

Either put forth an argument that the current system is not corrupt, or purpose a superior alternative.

[Davyd05]

my gift to myself this xmas is just ignoring all the trolls.

[tarmi]

...but I have to say that the immediate and vehement propagation of your distracting posts leads me to confirm that you are not acting in the interest of the common good.

lol.

what's next? the party will deport us to mine some coins in a gulag?

[InvestorPerson]

my gift to myself this xmas is just ignoring all the trolls.

why would you miss out on that fun?

[Davyd05]

my gift to myself this xmas is just ignoring all the trolls.

I bought me some bitcoin 

I did back in the flash crash period.. and hit my yearly target based on budgeted funds. Perhaps my New Years gift is planned already.

[shmadz]

...but I have to say that the immediate and vehement propagation of your distracting posts leads me to confirm that you are not acting in the interest of the common good.

lol.

what's next? the party will deport us to mine some coins in a gulag?

What's next is where you explain how my plea for a transparent and open approach to honest money prompted you to post a communist flag and breadlines in response.

[podyx]

We probably gonna see a solid downswing as soon as the sells get moving

I think it's just a big bid side holding us back for the moment
9k to 288 on stamp

[NotLambchop]

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Either put forth an argument that the current system is not corrupt, or purpose a superior alternative.
...

Your paranoid delusions aside, there has been nothing honest or transparent about Bitcoin from the moment when someone realized that it was Beanie Babies 2.0, with the associated get-rich-quick faithful already kneeling with asses up in the air.

Take this forum:
The Securities sub, the "industrial" side of Bitcoin, is solid, wall-to-wall scam.  If something on offer is actually going up in price/paying divs, it's a sure sign that the issuer is about to run with your coin.
Lending section:  No one ever pays back, Pirate, Goat, Ukyo loan, Graet loan, 'nuf said.
The "scam accusations" sub is probably the most read sub here

[shmadz]

my gift to myself this xmas is just ignoring all the trolls.

why would you miss out on that fun?

Lol, I normally stay out of this kind of Crap, but I had some very interesting conversations during holiday festivities and now I'm drunk and looking for a fight...

Much fun, many lulz.

[NotLambchop]

Lower lows are being set, gentlemen.
On a more positive note, the highs are lower also.
Excelsior, gentlemen!

Edit @shmadz re. "Bitcoin = transparency":
BTC-e, could you tell me where it is located & who runs it, in case they decide to transparently take off with my coin?

[shmadz]

...
Either put forth an argument that the current system is not corrupt, or purpose a superior alternative.
...

Your paranoid delusions aside, there has been nothing honest or transparent about Bitcoin from the moment when people realized that it was Beanie Babies 2.0, with the associated get-rich-quick faithful ready for exploitation.

Take this forum:  The Securities sub, the "industrial" side of Bitcoin, is solid, wall-to-wall scam.  Lending section:  No one ever pays back, Pirate, Goat, Ukyo loan, Graet loan, 'nuf said.  The "scam accusations" sub is probably the most read sub here

Thanks NLC for response, but you did not offer superior alternative or evidence that current system is not corrupt.

There are many scams, I agree. But the bitcoin protocol has been open and honest since it's inception, and all participants are voluntary.

Come on dude, I know you can do better than that.

[cbeast]

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Either put forth an argument that the current system is not corrupt, or purpose a superior alternative.
...

Your paranoid delusions aside, there has been nothing honest or transparent about Bitcoin from the moment when people realized that it was Beanie Babies 2.0, with the associated get-rich-quick faithful ready for exploitation.

Take this forum:  The Securities sub, the "industrial" side of Bitcoin, is solid, wall-to-wall scam.  Lending section:  No one ever pays back, Pirate, Goat, Ukyo loan, Graet loan, 'nuf said.  The "scam accusations" sub is probably the most read sub here

Thanks NLC for response, but you did not offer superior alternative or evidence that current system is not corrupt.

There are many scams, I agree. But the bitcoin protocol has been open and honest since it's inception, and all participants are voluntary.

Come on dude, I know you can do better than that.

He is incapable of learning. He needs special teachers with marshmallows and electrodes to learn anything at all.

[shmadz]

...
Either put forth an argument that the current system is not corrupt, or purpose a superior alternative.
...

Your paranoid delusions aside, there has been nothing honest or transparent about Bitcoin from the moment when people realized that it was Beanie Babies 2.0, with the associated get-rich-quick faithful ready for exploitation.

Take this forum:  The Securities sub, the "industrial" side of Bitcoin, is solid, wall-to-wall scam.  Lending section:  No one ever pays back, Pirate, Goat, Ukyo loan, Graet loan, 'nuf said.  The "scam accusations" sub is probably the most read sub here

Thanks NLC for response, but you did not offer superior alternative or evidence that current system is not corrupt.

There are many scams, I agree. But the bitcoin protocol has been open and honest since it's inception, and all participants are voluntary.

Come on dude, I know you can do better than that.

He is incapable of learning. He needs special teachers with marshmallows and electrodes to learn anything at all.

I think you underestimate his trolling powers, he is actually trolling me as we speak!

[NotLambchop]

...
Either put forth an argument that the current system is not corrupt, or purpose a superior alternative.
...

Your paranoid delusions aside, there has been nothing honest or transparent about Bitcoin from the moment when people realized that it was Beanie Babies 2.0, with the associated get-rich-quick faithful ready for exploitation.

Take this forum:  The Securities sub, the "industrial" side of Bitcoin, is solid, wall-to-wall scam.  Lending section:  No one ever pays back, Pirate, Goat, Ukyo loan, Graet loan, 'nuf said.  The "scam accusations" sub is probably the most read sub here

Thanks NLC for response, but you did not offer superior alternative or evidence that current system is not corrupt.

There are many scams, I agree. But the bitcoin protocol has been open and honest since it's inception, and all participants are voluntary.

Come on dude, I know you can do better than that.

Never said the current system is free of corruption.  My point is Bitcoin makes it look virginal by comparison--and the protocol has nothing to do with it.
Or do you think Banks and Bitcoin use different kinds of math?

in case you missed it:
Edit @shmadz re. "Bitcoin = transparency":
BTC-e, could you tell me where it is located & who runs it, in case they decide to transparently take off with my coin?

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation

[shmadz]

Edit @shmadz re. "Bitcoin = transparency":
BTC-e, could you tell me where it is located & who runs it, in case they decide to transparently take off with my coin?

Oops, missed this part,

I have long been suspicious of btce and yet, in my experience, they have always acted in a trustworthy manner.

I like the fact that every time I log in, I get a confirmation email, so that IF I were ever to get an email when I didn't log in it would signal me that my account is no longer secure. Also, all withdrawals from my account also require email confirmation...

I still suspect insider trading and other shenanigans on that exchange, but they've never done me wrong, although some of the spikes and swings have given me reason to question.

I don't know where they're from or where they're located, and it's always possible for a third party to just take your money and run, (recent shenanigans in cypress as an example)

Personally, I feel that CaVirtex is just as trustworthy as any other bank for the purposes of exchanging currencies, and I feel much more comfortable with keeping the majority of my liquid assets in crypto-assets that I can safely secure without any trust in a third party.

[shmadz]

I just went to sign in to Poloniex, and the captcha is gone.  Something fishy, or is this the way it is now?

They changed their platform, check box to click to say you're not robot, I got that too, I'm guessing it's ok, but I really don't trust any third party with large amounts. Transfer costs are usually trivial so you can mostly use these platforms with minimal risk.

Just my experience, please don't take this as an endorsement

[NotLambchop]

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I have long been suspicious of btce and yet, in my experience, they have always acted in a trustworthy manner.

I like the fact that every time I log in, I get a confirmation email, so that IF I were ever to get an email when I didn't log in it would signal me that my account is no longer secure. Also, all withdrawals from my account also require email confirmation...

TL;DR: You don't know who runs the exchange you use, where it is located, where it is registered, or whether it is registered at all.
But you get a good feel from them, because you get emails.
That's certainly going to end well.

Very transparency.  Much protocol.  Wow.

[shmadz]

...
I have long been suspicious of btce and yet, in my experience, they have always acted in a trustworthy manner.

I like the fact that every time I log in, I get a confirmation email, so that IF I were ever to get an email when I didn't log in it would signal me that my account is no longer secure. Also, all withdrawals from my account also require email confirmation...

TL;DR: You don't know who runs the exchange you use, where it is located, where it is registered, or whether it is registered at all.
But you get a good feel from them, because you get emails.
That's certainly going to end well.

Very transparency.  Much protocol.  Wow.

Nice, and yes, I trusted them just fine when I was trading litecoins back in the day,

I haven't used that exchange in over a year, and in the meantime our quaint little Canadian exchange is fully registered and fully compliant and just as safe as any other legacy bank, thank you very much. 

[Davyd05]

I <3 Cavirtex, I hear VoS isnt bad either