Bitcoin Forum
May 05, 2024, 04:51:58 AM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 27.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: « 1 ... 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 [403] 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 ... 456 »
  Print  
Author Topic: ICONOMI - Live for today. Invest for tomorrow.  (Read 583505 times)
This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic.
nor9854
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 350
Merit: 250



View Profile
December 10, 2017, 11:51:49 PM
 #8041

Still sad to see that the ICN token is not performing well, while Iconomi is doing amazing last few months.
Yes that indeed is quite strange.I hold ICONOMI team responsible for not taking care of ICN

██████████████████            ██████████
████████████████              ██████████
██████████████          ▄█   ███████████
████████████         ▄████   ███████████
██████████        ▄███████  ████████████
████████        ▄█████████  ████████████
██████        ▄███████████  ████████████
████       ▄██████████████ █████████████
██      ▄███████████████████████████████
▀        ███████████████████████████████
▄          █████████████████████████████
██▄         ▀███████████████████████████
████▄        ▀██████████████████████████
██████▄        ▀████████████████████████
████████▄        ████████████████▀ █████
██████████▄       ▀█████████████  ██████
████████████▄       ██████████   ███████
██████████████▄      ▀██████    ████████
████████████████▄▄     ███     █████████
███████████████████▄    ▀     ██████████
█████████████████████▄       ███████████
███████████████████████▄   ▄████████████





▄█████████████████   ███             ███   ███   ███▄                ▄███            █████            ████████████████   ████████████████▄             █████
███▀                 ███             ███   ███   ████▄              ▄████           ███████           ███                ███           ▀███           ███████
███                  ███             ███   ███   █████▄            ▄█████          ███▀ ▀███          ███                ███            ███          ███▀ ▀███
███                  ███             ███   ███   ███ ███▄        ▄███ ███        ▄███▀   ▀███▄        ███                ███           ▄███        ▄███▀   ▀███▄
███                  ███████████████████   ███   ███  ▀██▄      ▄██▀  ███       ▄███▀     ▀███▄       ████████████████   ████████████████▀        ▄███▀     ▀███▄
███                  ███             ███   ███   ███   ▀███    ███▀   ███      ▄███▀       ▀███▄      ███                ███        ███          ▄███▀       ▀███▄
███                  ███             ███   ███   ███    ▀███  ███▀    ███     ▄███▀         ▀███▄     ███                ███         ███        ▄███▀         ▀███▄
███▄                 ███             ███   ███   ███      ██████      ███    ▄███             ███▄    ███                ███          ███      ▄███             ███▄
▀█████████████████   ███             ███   ███   ███       ████       ███   ▄███               ███▄   ████████████████   ███           ███    ▄███               ███▄

|
|
1714884718
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1714884718

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1714884718
Reply with quote  #2

1714884718
Report to moderator
"Governments are good at cutting off the heads of a centrally controlled networks like Napster, but pure P2P networks like Gnutella and Tor seem to be holding their own." -- Satoshi
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction.
1714884718
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1714884718

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1714884718
Reply with quote  #2

1714884718
Report to moderator
1714884718
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1714884718

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1714884718
Reply with quote  #2

1714884718
Report to moderator
1714884718
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1714884718

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1714884718
Reply with quote  #2

1714884718
Report to moderator
Jayjay04
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1364
Merit: 1000



View Profile
December 11, 2017, 02:52:32 AM
 #8042

If everything is going so well for Iconomi, how come it's not reflected in the token valuation ? where are the buybacks in all this ?!?

                    ▄▄▄
                   █████
             ▄▄▄    ▀▀▀       ▄▄████╕
            █████          ▄▄███████▌
     ▄▄▄     ▀▀▀        ╓████████▀▀
    █████               ██████▀▀       ▄███▄
     ▀▀▀        ▄███▄    ▀▀▀           ▀███▀
                ▀███▀        ▄▄████╕
       ▁▄▄███▄           ▄▄████████▌
   ▁▄▆████████       ▄▄█████████▀▀       ▄███▄
 ▄█████████▀▔    ▄▄█████████▀▀           ▀███▀
▐██████▀▀▔   ,▄█████████▀▀        ▄▄▄
 ▔▀▀▀▔    ▄▄████████▀▀           █████
      ▄▄████████▀▀       ▄▄██▄    ▀▀▀
   ▄█████████▀       ▄▄███████▌       ▄▄▄
  ▐██████▀▀      ▄▄█████████▀▔       █████
   `▀▀▀      ▂▄█████████▀▀    ,▄▄µ    ▀▀▀
          ▂▆████████▀▀    ,▄██████▌
          ██████▀▀     ▄█████████▀
           ▔▀▀        ███████▀"
                      "▀▀▀╙
Hello!
STAKER
.The Next Proof-of-Stake.
KSmart Contract Tokene.














robstak
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 203
Merit: 100


View Profile
December 11, 2017, 02:55:33 AM
Last edit: December 11, 2017, 09:22:53 AM by robstak
 #8043

This is a great ICO project from the beginning but sadly the price is not really prospering unlike its contemporaries like Lisk, Stratis and Waves.
ruletheworld
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1386
Merit: 1045


View Profile WWW
December 11, 2017, 05:11:27 AM
 #8044

If everything is going so well for Iconomi, how come it's not reflected in the token valuation ? where are the buybacks in all this ?!?
Buybacks happen every quarter, but there are pretty small compared to the trading volume/sell pressure.
Meatboy
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 138
Merit: 100


View Profile
December 11, 2017, 09:28:28 AM
 #8045

Is there any upcoming news regarding iconomi token coming ? I just cant follow we all these new projects . After slack got spammed so hard i left slack , so where is best place to follow iconomi news ?

optimal sources:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ICONOMI/

https://twitter.com/iconominet


https://medium.com/iconominet





Red_Sanford
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 322
Merit: 250



View Profile
December 11, 2017, 10:23:26 AM
 #8046

This is a great ICO project from the beginning but sadly the price is not really prospering unlike its contemporaries like Lisk, Stratis and Waves.

Last spring I bought $500 worth of ICN and $500 worth of Waves

Waves is now valued @ $10,000
ICN would be worth $1400 but I sold off half to get my original investment out.

TRAVELCHAIN
  Make a trip of your dreams!   
▄██▄███████▄░░░░░░░░░░░░░▄███████▄██▄
▀██▀█████████▄░░░░░░░░░▄█████████▀██▀
░░░░░░░░░░░░▀███▄░░░░░▄███▀░░░░░░░░░░░░
░░░░░░░░░░░░░░▀███▀░▄███▀░░░░░░░░░░░░░░
░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░▀░▄███▀░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░
░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░████░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░
░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░████░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░
░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░████░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░
░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░████░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░
░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░████░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░
░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░████░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░
░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░▄██▄░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░
░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░▀██▀░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░
=
  SmartTravelling ecosystem 
[ Twitter ]   [ Facebook ]   [ Medium ]
▬▬▬  [ Website ]   [ Whitepaper ]  ▬▬▬
[ Instagram ]   [ Telegram ]   [ Youtube ]
 
FNetV1
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 129
Merit: 100


View Profile
December 11, 2017, 10:39:21 AM
 #8047

This is a great ICO project from the beginning but sadly the price is not really prospering unlike its contemporaries like Lisk, Stratis and Waves.

Last spring I bought $500 worth of ICN and $500 worth of Waves

Waves is now valued @ $10,000
ICN would be worth $1400 but I sold off half to get my original investment out.

Congratulations on your WAVES investment there, you seem to have hit it well, but unfortunately the community was treating WAVES as it were some type of joke in the beginning stages that I simply passed on it.  I regret not having bought some WAVES tokens.

But as far as ICN goes, I believe that 2018 could be a great year for ICN token appreciation.  ICONOMI is the best project in the crypto world so far, with a working product and when they are fully launched and marketing finally starts that's where the party could start for ICN.  Who knows?

~~Ad Space Available!  PM: FNetV1 with your offers~~
Ferdo
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 323
Merit: 19


View Profile
December 11, 2017, 06:15:35 PM
 #8048

So there is lot of talk about the utility of of the ICN token in the last few moths. Did devs promise such thing in the beginning i.e. pre-ico phase? All I can find that the dividends were mentioned but decided to go with buyback since that would avoid being seen as a security.

Nevertheless, ICN having a utility will be great and I can see that whatever they came up with will drive the price up strongly.

But what I actually wanted to say is that Iconomi already has a great product (which you can't say for a lot of other projects with high market cap like Augur 2 years without anything, OMG etc.) which will only have more success with the upcoming DAAs. This alone should set Iconomi much higher in top 100, plus the fact that we already have working buybacks. Utility of ICN is just a plus here as a lot of coins that have absolutely no utility are doing really good. What is IOTA utility other then tangle being fancy new thing which needs to be proved it can work first etc.

So only thing that worries me is not being on more popular exchanges (Bittrex, Polo, Bitfinex) as Kraken is really buggy so it only leaves Binance, but buybacks are probably the reason why exchanges won't list ICN. If ICN gets more volume somehow the price will skyrocket IMHO.

So lets all be thankful that Iconomi did a huge job in one years time which is a lot more than 90% of other projects can say. Future is bright for ICN which I can't say for a lot of projects out there. Just my two ICNs Smiley
nor9854
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 350
Merit: 250



View Profile
December 11, 2017, 09:15:30 PM
 #8049

Seems btc will send out 90% of cryptos out of market and only 10% will remain.I hope ICN be one among 10%

██████████████████            ██████████
████████████████              ██████████
██████████████          ▄█   ███████████
████████████         ▄████   ███████████
██████████        ▄███████  ████████████
████████        ▄█████████  ████████████
██████        ▄███████████  ████████████
████       ▄██████████████ █████████████
██      ▄███████████████████████████████
▀        ███████████████████████████████
▄          █████████████████████████████
██▄         ▀███████████████████████████
████▄        ▀██████████████████████████
██████▄        ▀████████████████████████
████████▄        ████████████████▀ █████
██████████▄       ▀█████████████  ██████
████████████▄       ██████████   ███████
██████████████▄      ▀██████    ████████
████████████████▄▄     ███     █████████
███████████████████▄    ▀     ██████████
█████████████████████▄       ███████████
███████████████████████▄   ▄████████████





▄█████████████████   ███             ███   ███   ███▄                ▄███            █████            ████████████████   ████████████████▄             █████
███▀                 ███             ███   ███   ████▄              ▄████           ███████           ███                ███           ▀███           ███████
███                  ███             ███   ███   █████▄            ▄█████          ███▀ ▀███          ███                ███            ███          ███▀ ▀███
███                  ███             ███   ███   ███ ███▄        ▄███ ███        ▄███▀   ▀███▄        ███                ███           ▄███        ▄███▀   ▀███▄
███                  ███████████████████   ███   ███  ▀██▄      ▄██▀  ███       ▄███▀     ▀███▄       ████████████████   ████████████████▀        ▄███▀     ▀███▄
███                  ███             ███   ███   ███   ▀███    ███▀   ███      ▄███▀       ▀███▄      ███                ███        ███          ▄███▀       ▀███▄
███                  ███             ███   ███   ███    ▀███  ███▀    ███     ▄███▀         ▀███▄     ███                ███         ███        ▄███▀         ▀███▄
███▄                 ███             ███   ███   ███      ██████      ███    ▄███             ███▄    ███                ███          ███      ▄███             ███▄
▀█████████████████   ███             ███   ███   ███       ████       ███   ▄███               ███▄   ████████████████   ███           ███    ▄███               ███▄

|
|
ruletheworld
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1386
Merit: 1045


View Profile WWW
December 11, 2017, 09:41:30 PM
 #8050

So there is lot of talk about the utility of of the ICN token in the last few moths. Did devs promise such thing in the beginning i.e. pre-ico phase? All I can find that the dividends were mentioned but decided to go with buyback since that would avoid being seen as a security.

Nevertheless, ICN having a utility will be great and I can see that whatever they came up with will drive the price up strongly.

But what I actually wanted to say is that Iconomi already has a great product (which you can't say for a lot of other projects with high market cap like Augur 2 years without anything, OMG etc.) which will only have more success with the upcoming DAAs. This alone should set Iconomi much higher in top 100, plus the fact that we already have working buybacks. Utility of ICN is just a plus here as a lot of coins that have absolutely no utility are doing really good. What is IOTA utility other then tangle being fancy new thing which needs to be proved it can work first etc.

So only thing that worries me is not being on more popular exchanges (Bittrex, Polo, Bitfinex) as Kraken is really buggy so it only leaves Binance, but buybacks are probably the reason why exchanges won't list ICN. If ICN gets more volume somehow the price will skyrocket IMHO.

So lets all be thankful that Iconomi did a huge job in one years time which is a lot more than 90% of other projects can say. Future is bright for ICN which I can't say for a lot of projects out there. Just my two ICNs Smiley

The utility part was brought in later, not during the ICO.

It doesn't matter if the platform and product are great, if the value doesn't transfer to the ICN holders. The team is hiring aggressively, so I suspect a lot of the profits are just going into salaries instead of buybacks, for example. This doesn't help the ICN holders. Making the ICN token have some utility is just another way to help provide value to the token holders, not just the product/platform users.
RayX12
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 952
Merit: 552


View Profile
December 11, 2017, 11:54:22 PM
 #8051

So there is lot of talk about the utility of of the ICN token in the last few moths. Did devs promise such thing in the beginning i.e. pre-ico phase? All I can find that the dividends were mentioned but decided to go with buyback since that would avoid being seen as a security.

Nevertheless, ICN having a utility will be great and I can see that whatever they came up with will drive the price up strongly.

But what I actually wanted to say is that Iconomi already has a great product (which you can't say for a lot of other projects with high market cap like Augur 2 years without anything, OMG etc.) which will only have more success with the upcoming DAAs. This alone should set Iconomi much higher in top 100, plus the fact that we already have working buybacks. Utility of ICN is just a plus here as a lot of coins that have absolutely no utility are doing really good. What is IOTA utility other then tangle being fancy new thing which needs to be proved it can work first etc.

So only thing that worries me is not being on more popular exchanges (Bittrex, Polo, Bitfinex) as Kraken is really buggy so it only leaves Binance, but buybacks are probably the reason why exchanges won't list ICN. If ICN gets more volume somehow the price will skyrocket IMHO.

So lets all be thankful that Iconomi did a huge job in one years time which is a lot more than 90% of other projects can say. Future is bright for ICN which I can't say for a lot of projects out there. Just my two ICNs Smiley

The utility part was brought in later, not during the ICO.

It doesn't matter if the platform and product are great, if the value doesn't transfer to the ICN holders. The team is hiring aggressively, so I suspect a lot of the profits are just going into salaries instead of buybacks, for example. This doesn't help the ICN holders. Making the ICN token have some utility is just another way to help provide value to the token holders, not just the product/platform users.

Also Iconomi have received a lot of tokes like OMG and many others that should have sold and used to buy back ICN.  Instead they steal these tokens and added to their special fund!  We as ICN holders as so FUCKED  by this management team who only look after themselves.. Yes they suck up all of the profits before they buy back any of these worthless ICN tokes.  And looks like next year will more of the same raping.  Sad
fajarkus12
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 350
Merit: 100



View Profile
December 12, 2017, 12:48:40 PM
 #8052

Still sad to see that the ICN token is not performing well, while Iconomi is doing amazing last few months.
I also sad because there is no big movement for this coin and seem the price stuck at $1.5. Very hard to increase and reached above $4 like some month ago. I hope the dev teams take attention for this
ruletheworld
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1386
Merit: 1045


View Profile WWW
December 12, 2017, 03:11:56 PM
 #8053

So there is lot of talk about the utility of of the ICN token in the last few moths. Did devs promise such thing in the beginning i.e. pre-ico phase? All I can find that the dividends were mentioned but decided to go with buyback since that would avoid being seen as a security.

Nevertheless, ICN having a utility will be great and I can see that whatever they came up with will drive the price up strongly.

But what I actually wanted to say is that Iconomi already has a great product (which you can't say for a lot of other projects with high market cap like Augur 2 years without anything, OMG etc.) which will only have more success with the upcoming DAAs. This alone should set Iconomi much higher in top 100, plus the fact that we already have working buybacks. Utility of ICN is just a plus here as a lot of coins that have absolutely no utility are doing really good. What is IOTA utility other then tangle being fancy new thing which needs to be proved it can work first etc.

So only thing that worries me is not being on more popular exchanges (Bittrex, Polo, Bitfinex) as Kraken is really buggy so it only leaves Binance, but buybacks are probably the reason why exchanges won't list ICN. If ICN gets more volume somehow the price will skyrocket IMHO.

So lets all be thankful that Iconomi did a huge job in one years time which is a lot more than 90% of other projects can say. Future is bright for ICN which I can't say for a lot of projects out there. Just my two ICNs Smiley

The utility part was brought in later, not during the ICO.

It doesn't matter if the platform and product are great, if the value doesn't transfer to the ICN holders. The team is hiring aggressively, so I suspect a lot of the profits are just going into salaries instead of buybacks, for example. This doesn't help the ICN holders. Making the ICN token have some utility is just another way to help provide value to the token holders, not just the product/platform users.

Also Iconomi have received a lot of tokes like OMG and many others that should have sold and used to buy back ICN.  Instead they steal these tokens and added to their special fund!  We as ICN holders as so FUCKED  by this management team who only look after themselves.. Yes they suck up all of the profits before they buy back any of these worthless ICN tokes.  And looks like next year will more of the same raping.  Sad

That's a fair point. The whitepaper, which has since been taken down, promised ICN to be similar to shareholders, which means it's the team's obligation to ensure they use the assets to buy back the tokens if they are undervalued in the marketplace. I suspect they are paying out a lot to themselves and the team, which leaves far less profits to buy back the ICN tokens.

Which is why, I think if they create some utility for the ICN tokens inside the platform, it might the price, since the platform is already seeing a fair amount of adoption, even as the ICN price deteriorates.
yespeace
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 243
Merit: 250


View Profile
December 12, 2017, 04:18:25 PM
 #8054

So there is lot of talk about the utility of of the ICN token in the last few moths. Did devs promise such thing in the beginning i.e. pre-ico phase? All I can find that the dividends were mentioned but decided to go with buyback since that would avoid being seen as a security.

Nevertheless, ICN having a utility will be great and I can see that whatever they came up with will drive the price up strongly.

But what I actually wanted to say is that Iconomi already has a great product (which you can't say for a lot of other projects with high market cap like Augur 2 years without anything, OMG etc.) which will only have more success with the upcoming DAAs. This alone should set Iconomi much higher in top 100, plus the fact that we already have working buybacks. Utility of ICN is just a plus here as a lot of coins that have absolutely no utility are doing really good. What is IOTA utility other then tangle being fancy new thing which needs to be proved it can work first etc.

So only thing that worries me is not being on more popular exchanges (Bittrex, Polo, Bitfinex) as Kraken is really buggy so it only leaves Binance, but buybacks are probably the reason why exchanges won't list ICN. If ICN gets more volume somehow the price will skyrocket IMHO.

So lets all be thankful that Iconomi did a huge job in one years time which is a lot more than 90% of other projects can say. Future is bright for ICN which I can't say for a lot of projects out there. Just my two ICNs Smiley

The utility part was brought in later, not during the ICO.

It doesn't matter if the platform and product are great, if the value doesn't transfer to the ICN holders. The team is hiring aggressively, so I suspect a lot of the profits are just going into salaries instead of buybacks, for example. This doesn't help the ICN holders. Making the ICN token have some utility is just another way to help provide value to the token holders, not just the product/platform users.

Also Iconomi have received a lot of tokes like OMG and many others that should have sold and used to buy back ICN.  Instead they steal these tokens and added to their special fund!  We as ICN holders as so FUCKED  by this management team who only look after themselves.. Yes they suck up all of the profits before they buy back any of these worthless ICN tokes.  And looks like next year will more of the same raping.  Sad

That's a fair point. The whitepaper, which has since been taken down, promised ICN to be similar to shareholders, which means it's the team's obligation to ensure they use the assets to buy back the tokens if they are undervalued in the marketplace. I suspect they are paying out a lot to themselves and the team, which leaves far less profits to buy back the ICN tokens.

Which is why, I think if they create some utility for the ICN tokens inside the platform, it might the price, since the platform is already seeing a fair amount of adoption, even as the ICN price deteriorates.

You really should read more about this project befor talk nonsense about this project! Every dolar, satoshi... made on this platform is goint for buyback! They do not take anythink for themselves. the team has 17 milions of ICN and about 50% of the asset that they collect in the ICO (this asset is now worth more than 100 milions. much more! other 50% is in Pinta and it is worth 115 milions at the moment.

you really should do a bit of a resarch before talking about stuff you do not know about.
Ferdo
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 323
Merit: 19


View Profile
December 12, 2017, 05:30:30 PM
 #8055

So there is lot of talk about the utility of of the ICN token in the last few moths. Did devs promise such thing in the beginning i.e. pre-ico phase? All I can find that the dividends were mentioned but decided to go with buyback since that would avoid being seen as a security.

Nevertheless, ICN having a utility will be great and I can see that whatever they came up with will drive the price up strongly.

But what I actually wanted to say is that Iconomi already has a great product (which you can't say for a lot of other projects with high market cap like Augur 2 years without anything, OMG etc.) which will only have more success with the upcoming DAAs. This alone should set Iconomi much higher in top 100, plus the fact that we already have working buybacks. Utility of ICN is just a plus here as a lot of coins that have absolutely no utility are doing really good. What is IOTA utility other then tangle being fancy new thing which needs to be proved it can work first etc.

So only thing that worries me is not being on more popular exchanges (Bittrex, Polo, Bitfinex) as Kraken is really buggy so it only leaves Binance, but buybacks are probably the reason why exchanges won't list ICN. If ICN gets more volume somehow the price will skyrocket IMHO.

So lets all be thankful that Iconomi did a huge job in one years time which is a lot more than 90% of other projects can say. Future is bright for ICN which I can't say for a lot of projects out there. Just my two ICNs Smiley

The utility part was brought in later, not during the ICO.

It doesn't matter if the platform and product are great, if the value doesn't transfer to the ICN holders. The team is hiring aggressively, so I suspect a lot of the profits are just going into salaries instead of buybacks, for example. This doesn't help the ICN holders. Making the ICN token have some utility is just another way to help provide value to the token holders, not just the product/platform users.

Also Iconomi have received a lot of tokes like OMG and many others that should have sold and used to buy back ICN.  Instead they steal these tokens and added to their special fund!  We as ICN holders as so FUCKED  by this management team who only look after themselves.. Yes they suck up all of the profits before they buy back any of these worthless ICN tokes.  And looks like next year will more of the same raping.  Sad

That's a fair point. The whitepaper, which has since been taken down, promised ICN to be similar to shareholders, which means it's the team's obligation to ensure they use the assets to buy back the tokens if they are undervalued in the marketplace. I suspect they are paying out a lot to themselves and the team, which leaves far less profits to buy back the ICN tokens.

Which is why, I think if they create some utility for the ICN tokens inside the platform, it might the price, since the platform is already seeing a fair amount of adoption, even as the ICN price deteriorates.

I wasn't implying that the utility wouldn't be useful. I am also looking forward to this. I was just trying to say that even without the utility Iconomi has a great product which will attract a lot of people in the future and the buyback will be more significant. This fact alone should make some interest in buying ICN. Utility will just bring more interest.

Bottom line I would rather hold ICN (great team that delivered awesome product in 1 year and will be delivering in the future) even without the utility than some shitcoin that works on a pump/dump principle. But then again I am a long term holder and can see why short term holders would be unhappy.

I'm personally not worried about the price (most altcoins are going through this because Bitcoin is surging like mad lately) and I am confident that in 3 years ICN will be in the top. Probably even sooner like 2018 Smiley
Red_Sanford
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 322
Merit: 250



View Profile
December 12, 2017, 05:37:43 PM
 #8056

So there is lot of talk about the utility of of the ICN token in the last few moths. Did devs promise such thing in the beginning i.e. pre-ico phase? All I can find that the dividends were mentioned but decided to go with buyback since that would avoid being seen as a security.

Nevertheless, ICN having a utility will be great and I can see that whatever they came up with will drive the price up strongly.

But what I actually wanted to say is that Iconomi already has a great product (which you can't say for a lot of other projects with high market cap like Augur 2 years without anything, OMG etc.) which will only have more success with the upcoming DAAs. This alone should set Iconomi much higher in top 100, plus the fact that we already have working buybacks. Utility of ICN is just a plus here as a lot of coins that have absolutely no utility are doing really good. What is IOTA utility other then tangle being fancy new thing which needs to be proved it can work first etc.

So only thing that worries me is not being on more popular exchanges (Bittrex, Polo, Bitfinex) as Kraken is really buggy so it only leaves Binance, but buybacks are probably the reason why exchanges won't list ICN. If ICN gets more volume somehow the price will skyrocket IMHO.

So lets all be thankful that Iconomi did a huge job in one years time which is a lot more than 90% of other projects can say. Future is bright for ICN which I can't say for a lot of projects out there. Just my two ICNs Smiley



The utility part was brought in later, not during the ICO.

It doesn't matter if the platform and product are great, if the value doesn't transfer to the ICN holders. The team is hiring aggressively, so I suspect a lot of the profits are just going into salaries instead of buybacks, for example. This doesn't help the ICN holders. Making the ICN token have some utility is just another way to help provide value to the token holders, not just the product/platform users.

Also Iconomi have received a lot of tokes like OMG and many others that should have sold and used to buy back ICN.  Instead they steal these tokens and added to their special fund!  We as ICN holders as so FUCKED  by this management team who only look after themselves.. Yes they suck up all of the profits before they buy back any of these worthless ICN tokes.  And looks like next year will more of the same raping.  Sad

That's a fair point. The whitepaper, which has since been taken down, promised ICN to be similar to shareholders, which means it's the team's obligation to ensure they use the assets to buy back the tokens if they are undervalued in the marketplace. I suspect they are paying out a lot to themselves and the team, which leaves far less profits to buy back the ICN tokens.

Which is why, I think if they create some utility for the ICN tokens inside the platform, it might the price, since the platform is already seeing a fair amount of adoption, even as the ICN price deteriorates.

You really should read more about this project befor talk nonsense about this project! Every dolar, satoshi... made on this platform is goint for buyback! They do not take anythink for themselves. the team has 17 milions of ICN and about 50% of the asset that they collect in the ICO (this asset is now worth more than 100 milions. much more! other 50% is in Pinta and it is worth 115 milions at the moment.

you really should do a bit of a resarch before talking about stuff you do not know about.

Quote
They do not take anythink for themselves.

What do you think they are volunteering ? They have a pretty Fing large payroll and are in the works of adding 100 more.

Now my head to head with Waves.. Both purchased the same day last spring.
1000 ICN now worth 1460
1000 Waves now worth 13,800 not including tokens earned from leasing.

Really wish I would have just kept the bitcoin at this point because bitcoin rose 10x in value

ICN is heading back to 1$ because there is no use for the token and they can't figure one out. If they had it would have been announced months ago. Instead they keep putting it off.. just like the release of the platform.

Now that futures are being traded on BTC , crypto index funds are already here but not in the mainstream.
ICN is dead

TRAVELCHAIN
  Make a trip of your dreams!   
▄██▄███████▄░░░░░░░░░░░░░▄███████▄██▄
▀██▀█████████▄░░░░░░░░░▄█████████▀██▀
░░░░░░░░░░░░▀███▄░░░░░▄███▀░░░░░░░░░░░░
░░░░░░░░░░░░░░▀███▀░▄███▀░░░░░░░░░░░░░░
░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░▀░▄███▀░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░
░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░████░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░
░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░████░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░
░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░████░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░
░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░████░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░
░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░████░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░
░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░████░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░
░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░▄██▄░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░
░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░▀██▀░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░
=
  SmartTravelling ecosystem 
[ Twitter ]   [ Facebook ]   [ Medium ]
▬▬▬  [ Website ]   [ Whitepaper ]  ▬▬▬
[ Instagram ]   [ Telegram ]   [ Youtube ]
 
Mr.W
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 17
Merit: 0


View Profile
December 12, 2017, 08:19:25 PM
 #8057

and this is just the start..... Shocked

We are proud to announce that the @CrushCrypto #DAA has reached $1M of AUM! Congratulations, @VictorLai! Read more about the @CrushCrypto DAA here: https://www.iconomi.net/dashboard/#/daa/CCC
Hypolite
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1245
Merit: 1027



View Profile
December 12, 2017, 09:21:03 PM
 #8058

https://www.reddit.com/r/ICONOMI/comments/7jd8xy/iconomi_moving_jurisdiction_to_malta_from_saint/

therhslv
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 1022
Merit: 264


View Profile
December 12, 2017, 09:55:56 PM
 #8059

any chance to people like me who can open ICN Managment portfolio with less than 10k usd and if im doing good , people will join me ? Or they choose by themselves
B!gSmoke
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 514
Merit: 353


Respect has to be earned, just like money!


View Profile
December 13, 2017, 05:22:31 AM
 #8060

any chance to people like me who can open ICN Managment portfolio with less than 10k usd and if im doing good , people will join me ? Or they choose by themselves

The final goal of the platform is to allow anybody to open up a fund regardless of the contributed seed amount. But for now, it's $100k.
Pages: « 1 ... 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 [403] 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 ... 456 »
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!