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December 11, 2017, 11:54:22 PM
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So there is lot of talk about the utility of of the ICN token in the last few moths. Did devs promise such thing in the beginning i.e. pre-ico phase? All I can find that the dividends were mentioned but decided to go with buyback since that would avoid being seen as a security.

Nevertheless, ICN having a utility will be great and I can see that whatever they came up with will drive the price up strongly.

But what I actually wanted to say is that Iconomi already has a great product (which you can't say for a lot of other projects with high market cap like Augur 2 years without anything, OMG etc.) which will only have more success with the upcoming DAAs. This alone should set Iconomi much higher in top 100, plus the fact that we already have working buybacks. Utility of ICN is just a plus here as a lot of coins that have absolutely no utility are doing really good. What is IOTA utility other then tangle being fancy new thing which needs to be proved it can work first etc.

So only thing that worries me is not being on more popular exchanges (Bittrex, Polo, Bitfinex) as Kraken is really buggy so it only leaves Binance, but buybacks are probably the reason why exchanges won't list ICN. If ICN gets more volume somehow the price will skyrocket IMHO.

So lets all be thankful that Iconomi did a huge job in one years time which is a lot more than 90% of other projects can say. Future is bright for ICN which I can't say for a lot of projects out there. Just my two ICNs Smiley

The utility part was brought in later, not during the ICO.

It doesn't matter if the platform and product are great, if the value doesn't transfer to the ICN holders. The team is hiring aggressively, so I suspect a lot of the profits are just going into salaries instead of buybacks, for example. This doesn't help the ICN holders. Making the ICN token have some utility is just another way to help provide value to the token holders, not just the product/platform users.

Also Iconomi have received a lot of tokes like OMG and many others that should have sold and used to buy back ICN.  Instead they steal these tokens and added to their special fund!  We as ICN holders as so FUCKED  by this management team who only look after themselves.. Yes they suck up all of the profits before they buy back any of these worthless ICN tokes.  And looks like next year will more of the same raping.  Sad
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December 12, 2017, 12:48:40 PM
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Still sad to see that the ICN token is not performing well, while Iconomi is doing amazing last few months.
I also sad because there is no big movement for this coin and seem the price stuck at $1.5. Very hard to increase and reached above $4 like some month ago. I hope the dev teams take attention for this
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December 12, 2017, 03:11:56 PM
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So there is lot of talk about the utility of of the ICN token in the last few moths. Did devs promise such thing in the beginning i.e. pre-ico phase? All I can find that the dividends were mentioned but decided to go with buyback since that would avoid being seen as a security.

Nevertheless, ICN having a utility will be great and I can see that whatever they came up with will drive the price up strongly.

But what I actually wanted to say is that Iconomi already has a great product (which you can't say for a lot of other projects with high market cap like Augur 2 years without anything, OMG etc.) which will only have more success with the upcoming DAAs. This alone should set Iconomi much higher in top 100, plus the fact that we already have working buybacks. Utility of ICN is just a plus here as a lot of coins that have absolutely no utility are doing really good. What is IOTA utility other then tangle being fancy new thing which needs to be proved it can work first etc.

So only thing that worries me is not being on more popular exchanges (Bittrex, Polo, Bitfinex) as Kraken is really buggy so it only leaves Binance, but buybacks are probably the reason why exchanges won't list ICN. If ICN gets more volume somehow the price will skyrocket IMHO.

So lets all be thankful that Iconomi did a huge job in one years time which is a lot more than 90% of other projects can say. Future is bright for ICN which I can't say for a lot of projects out there. Just my two ICNs Smiley

The utility part was brought in later, not during the ICO.

It doesn't matter if the platform and product are great, if the value doesn't transfer to the ICN holders. The team is hiring aggressively, so I suspect a lot of the profits are just going into salaries instead of buybacks, for example. This doesn't help the ICN holders. Making the ICN token have some utility is just another way to help provide value to the token holders, not just the product/platform users.

Also Iconomi have received a lot of tokes like OMG and many others that should have sold and used to buy back ICN.  Instead they steal these tokens and added to their special fund!  We as ICN holders as so FUCKED  by this management team who only look after themselves.. Yes they suck up all of the profits before they buy back any of these worthless ICN tokes.  And looks like next year will more of the same raping.  Sad

That's a fair point. The whitepaper, which has since been taken down, promised ICN to be similar to shareholders, which means it's the team's obligation to ensure they use the assets to buy back the tokens if they are undervalued in the marketplace. I suspect they are paying out a lot to themselves and the team, which leaves far less profits to buy back the ICN tokens.

Which is why, I think if they create some utility for the ICN tokens inside the platform, it might the price, since the platform is already seeing a fair amount of adoption, even as the ICN price deteriorates.
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December 12, 2017, 04:18:25 PM
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So there is lot of talk about the utility of of the ICN token in the last few moths. Did devs promise such thing in the beginning i.e. pre-ico phase? All I can find that the dividends were mentioned but decided to go with buyback since that would avoid being seen as a security.

Nevertheless, ICN having a utility will be great and I can see that whatever they came up with will drive the price up strongly.

But what I actually wanted to say is that Iconomi already has a great product (which you can't say for a lot of other projects with high market cap like Augur 2 years without anything, OMG etc.) which will only have more success with the upcoming DAAs. This alone should set Iconomi much higher in top 100, plus the fact that we already have working buybacks. Utility of ICN is just a plus here as a lot of coins that have absolutely no utility are doing really good. What is IOTA utility other then tangle being fancy new thing which needs to be proved it can work first etc.

So only thing that worries me is not being on more popular exchanges (Bittrex, Polo, Bitfinex) as Kraken is really buggy so it only leaves Binance, but buybacks are probably the reason why exchanges won't list ICN. If ICN gets more volume somehow the price will skyrocket IMHO.

So lets all be thankful that Iconomi did a huge job in one years time which is a lot more than 90% of other projects can say. Future is bright for ICN which I can't say for a lot of projects out there. Just my two ICNs Smiley

The utility part was brought in later, not during the ICO.

It doesn't matter if the platform and product are great, if the value doesn't transfer to the ICN holders. The team is hiring aggressively, so I suspect a lot of the profits are just going into salaries instead of buybacks, for example. This doesn't help the ICN holders. Making the ICN token have some utility is just another way to help provide value to the token holders, not just the product/platform users.

Also Iconomi have received a lot of tokes like OMG and many others that should have sold and used to buy back ICN.  Instead they steal these tokens and added to their special fund!  We as ICN holders as so FUCKED  by this management team who only look after themselves.. Yes they suck up all of the profits before they buy back any of these worthless ICN tokes.  And looks like next year will more of the same raping.  Sad

That's a fair point. The whitepaper, which has since been taken down, promised ICN to be similar to shareholders, which means it's the team's obligation to ensure they use the assets to buy back the tokens if they are undervalued in the marketplace. I suspect they are paying out a lot to themselves and the team, which leaves far less profits to buy back the ICN tokens.

Which is why, I think if they create some utility for the ICN tokens inside the platform, it might the price, since the platform is already seeing a fair amount of adoption, even as the ICN price deteriorates.

You really should read more about this project befor talk nonsense about this project! Every dolar, satoshi... made on this platform is goint for buyback! They do not take anythink for themselves. the team has 17 milions of ICN and about 50% of the asset that they collect in the ICO (this asset is now worth more than 100 milions. much more! other 50% is in Pinta and it is worth 115 milions at the moment.

you really should do a bit of a resarch before talking about stuff you do not know about.
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December 12, 2017, 05:30:30 PM
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So there is lot of talk about the utility of of the ICN token in the last few moths. Did devs promise such thing in the beginning i.e. pre-ico phase? All I can find that the dividends were mentioned but decided to go with buyback since that would avoid being seen as a security.

Nevertheless, ICN having a utility will be great and I can see that whatever they came up with will drive the price up strongly.

But what I actually wanted to say is that Iconomi already has a great product (which you can't say for a lot of other projects with high market cap like Augur 2 years without anything, OMG etc.) which will only have more success with the upcoming DAAs. This alone should set Iconomi much higher in top 100, plus the fact that we already have working buybacks. Utility of ICN is just a plus here as a lot of coins that have absolutely no utility are doing really good. What is IOTA utility other then tangle being fancy new thing which needs to be proved it can work first etc.

So only thing that worries me is not being on more popular exchanges (Bittrex, Polo, Bitfinex) as Kraken is really buggy so it only leaves Binance, but buybacks are probably the reason why exchanges won't list ICN. If ICN gets more volume somehow the price will skyrocket IMHO.

So lets all be thankful that Iconomi did a huge job in one years time which is a lot more than 90% of other projects can say. Future is bright for ICN which I can't say for a lot of projects out there. Just my two ICNs Smiley

The utility part was brought in later, not during the ICO.

It doesn't matter if the platform and product are great, if the value doesn't transfer to the ICN holders. The team is hiring aggressively, so I suspect a lot of the profits are just going into salaries instead of buybacks, for example. This doesn't help the ICN holders. Making the ICN token have some utility is just another way to help provide value to the token holders, not just the product/platform users.

Also Iconomi have received a lot of tokes like OMG and many others that should have sold and used to buy back ICN.  Instead they steal these tokens and added to their special fund!  We as ICN holders as so FUCKED  by this management team who only look after themselves.. Yes they suck up all of the profits before they buy back any of these worthless ICN tokes.  And looks like next year will more of the same raping.  Sad

That's a fair point. The whitepaper, which has since been taken down, promised ICN to be similar to shareholders, which means it's the team's obligation to ensure they use the assets to buy back the tokens if they are undervalued in the marketplace. I suspect they are paying out a lot to themselves and the team, which leaves far less profits to buy back the ICN tokens.

Which is why, I think if they create some utility for the ICN tokens inside the platform, it might the price, since the platform is already seeing a fair amount of adoption, even as the ICN price deteriorates.

I wasn't implying that the utility wouldn't be useful. I am also looking forward to this. I was just trying to say that even without the utility Iconomi has a great product which will attract a lot of people in the future and the buyback will be more significant. This fact alone should make some interest in buying ICN. Utility will just bring more interest.

Bottom line I would rather hold ICN (great team that delivered awesome product in 1 year and will be delivering in the future) even without the utility than some shitcoin that works on a pump/dump principle. But then again I am a long term holder and can see why short term holders would be unhappy.

I'm personally not worried about the price (most altcoins are going through this because Bitcoin is surging like mad lately) and I am confident that in 3 years ICN will be in the top. Probably even sooner like 2018 Smiley
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December 12, 2017, 05:37:43 PM
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So there is lot of talk about the utility of of the ICN token in the last few moths. Did devs promise such thing in the beginning i.e. pre-ico phase? All I can find that the dividends were mentioned but decided to go with buyback since that would avoid being seen as a security.

Nevertheless, ICN having a utility will be great and I can see that whatever they came up with will drive the price up strongly.

But what I actually wanted to say is that Iconomi already has a great product (which you can't say for a lot of other projects with high market cap like Augur 2 years without anything, OMG etc.) which will only have more success with the upcoming DAAs. This alone should set Iconomi much higher in top 100, plus the fact that we already have working buybacks. Utility of ICN is just a plus here as a lot of coins that have absolutely no utility are doing really good. What is IOTA utility other then tangle being fancy new thing which needs to be proved it can work first etc.

So only thing that worries me is not being on more popular exchanges (Bittrex, Polo, Bitfinex) as Kraken is really buggy so it only leaves Binance, but buybacks are probably the reason why exchanges won't list ICN. If ICN gets more volume somehow the price will skyrocket IMHO.

So lets all be thankful that Iconomi did a huge job in one years time which is a lot more than 90% of other projects can say. Future is bright for ICN which I can't say for a lot of projects out there. Just my two ICNs Smiley



The utility part was brought in later, not during the ICO.

It doesn't matter if the platform and product are great, if the value doesn't transfer to the ICN holders. The team is hiring aggressively, so I suspect a lot of the profits are just going into salaries instead of buybacks, for example. This doesn't help the ICN holders. Making the ICN token have some utility is just another way to help provide value to the token holders, not just the product/platform users.

Also Iconomi have received a lot of tokes like OMG and many others that should have sold and used to buy back ICN.  Instead they steal these tokens and added to their special fund!  We as ICN holders as so FUCKED  by this management team who only look after themselves.. Yes they suck up all of the profits before they buy back any of these worthless ICN tokes.  And looks like next year will more of the same raping.  Sad

That's a fair point. The whitepaper, which has since been taken down, promised ICN to be similar to shareholders, which means it's the team's obligation to ensure they use the assets to buy back the tokens if they are undervalued in the marketplace. I suspect they are paying out a lot to themselves and the team, which leaves far less profits to buy back the ICN tokens.

Which is why, I think if they create some utility for the ICN tokens inside the platform, it might the price, since the platform is already seeing a fair amount of adoption, even as the ICN price deteriorates.

You really should read more about this project befor talk nonsense about this project! Every dolar, satoshi... made on this platform is goint for buyback! They do not take anythink for themselves. the team has 17 milions of ICN and about 50% of the asset that they collect in the ICO (this asset is now worth more than 100 milions. much more! other 50% is in Pinta and it is worth 115 milions at the moment.

you really should do a bit of a resarch before talking about stuff you do not know about.

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They do not take anythink for themselves.

What do you think they are volunteering ? They have a pretty Fing large payroll and are in the works of adding 100 more.

Now my head to head with Waves.. Both purchased the same day last spring.
1000 ICN now worth 1460
1000 Waves now worth 13,800 not including tokens earned from leasing.

Really wish I would have just kept the bitcoin at this point because bitcoin rose 10x in value

ICN is heading back to 1$ because there is no use for the token and they can't figure one out. If they had it would have been announced months ago. Instead they keep putting it off.. just like the release of the platform.

Now that futures are being traded on BTC , crypto index funds are already here but not in the mainstream.
ICN is dead

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and this is just the start..... Shocked

We are proud to announce that the @CrushCrypto #DAA has reached $1M of AUM! Congratulations, @VictorLai! Read more about the @CrushCrypto DAA here: https://www.iconomi.net/dashboard/#/daa/CCC
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https://www.reddit.com/r/ICONOMI/comments/7jd8xy/iconomi_moving_jurisdiction_to_malta_from_saint/
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December 12, 2017, 09:55:56 PM
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any chance to people like me who can open ICN Managment portfolio with less than 10k usd and if im doing good , people will join me ? Or they choose by themselves

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December 13, 2017, 05:22:31 AM
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any chance to people like me who can open ICN Managment portfolio with less than 10k usd and if im doing good , people will join me ? Or they choose by themselves

The final goal of the platform is to allow anybody to open up a fund regardless of the contributed seed amount. But for now, it's $100k.
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December 13, 2017, 05:38:02 AM
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any chance to people like me who can open ICN Managment portfolio with less than 10k usd and if im doing good , people will join me ? Or they choose by themselves

The final goal of the platform is to allow anybody to open up a fund regardless of the contributed seed amount. But for now, it's $100k.
Yep, and it's a good idea considering the early stage of development of the platform. That's a good way to attract capital too. Once the model is proven, it can be expanded to everyone after basic checks perhaps.
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December 13, 2017, 09:23:40 AM
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I'm pretty sad and disappointed about the actual situation of ICN.

I remember it was one of the most successful ICO in the year, and they have done totally nothing towards their promise to pay dividends.  Okay, they will make buybacks with a totally different and less effective system, but you can see how successful it is.

Were there any words from ICN team to make a real usage of our tokens?  We gave them a lot of money, and all they did was issuing new options to buy in again to finally receive some money.  It is outrageous.

It could be a possible solution to make some kind of exchange possibility to our ICN token or something?

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there is really a big fluctuation in their minds.
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Received the monthly update...
Nothing about the ICN tokens...

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December 13, 2017, 06:12:16 PM
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Is there any chance of listing on Bittrex or Poloniex ?
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December 13, 2017, 09:46:46 PM
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Is there any chance of listing on Bittrex or Poloniex ?
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December 14, 2017, 12:56:12 AM
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Is there any chance of listing on Bittrex or Poloniex ?
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...why ?
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December 14, 2017, 06:07:31 AM
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hello for those who participate in ico you have to wear full for fraud breach of trust.
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December 14, 2017, 06:15:23 AM
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The interest of the team is to buy the chips on good account so it will not do anything to the chip and a great value well to the soon-to-behold control. 0.70cts 0.85 cts
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I do not understand why the internet media continues to say that this box of escro gives weekly dividers the white paper is only a lie for the actionaries
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