MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering]

[itsunderstood]

Okay, and why do you use MtGox still.

I don't.  I have < 1 BTC there, so yeah, in terms of give me my BTC back, I'm interested.  But, the standard Magic the Gathering tourney can take days, and they have poor support funds, as mentioned.  I am patient, I will get my tiny bit of coin back.  But others prusue abitrage and profit.  Pofit seeking is a disease but try convincing people that while Earth turns on debt-as-money.

IT industry being destroyed by design via temp worker corporations (third party shitheads between employer and employee).  There's your story.

[sturle]

You can ask me once you need the adress where to send to your registered letter  

I don't need to ask.  Their address is on the bottom on this page, and I know they accept registered letters (use FedEx instead, it is usually faster and cheaper): https://support.mtgox.com/entries/21651045-AML-Account-Statuses

So you know already that the bankruptcy of the magic - wand is played by the laywers rules and to their pockets
benefit of course ?

Sorry, I don't fall for cheap attempts to manipulate the price.

Can you estimate how many coins were stolen by forced -majeure in bitcoin protocol ?

Even if all the BTC in stuck transactions were stolen (which is impossible, because most of the inputs were spent in three to six stuck transactions), it is still only a tenth of what MtGox has made in fees (counting only BTC fees) over the years.  It is certainly not going to bankrupt them.  You have to make up something more credible than that if you want to make people believe in your scam.

[reb0rn21]

What would be fastest way to contact MtGox for them to cancel my Withdraw from decembar 2013 (internacional) ?
I want now to buy "cheap" BTC...

[OhShei8e]

Even if all the BTC in stuck transactions were stolen (which is impossible, because most of the inputs were spent in three to six stuck transactions), it is still only a tenth of what MtGox has made in fees over the years.  It is certainly not going to bankrupt them.  You have to make up something more credible than that if you want to make people believe in your scam.

By the way: I really thanks for your comments here. There is so much scaremongering and desire for the escalation in these parts. So, is really enjoyable to read your posts.

[itsunderstood]

Ferengi Code forbids others to gain advantage [while others are not forbidden]!

Respect the Ferengi Code!  Also, nude women!

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[kano]

What would be fastest way to contact MtGox for them to cancel my Withdraw from decembar 2013 (internacional) ?
I want now to buy "cheap" BTC...

Send a support request.

It's quite funny actually.
They know that if you want to cancel a $ withdrawal, that means you'll probably want to buy BTC, which means you'll pay them fees for that.
You see the funny side is, I asked about my $ swift withdrawal a couple of weeks ago and it took them 6 days to reply.
The other day I asked to cancel it ... and they replied a few hours later saying it was done
Very amusing.

[zyk]

You can ask me once you need the adress where to send to your registered letter  

I don't need to ask.  Their address is on the bottom on this page, and I know they accept registered letters (use FedEx instead, it is usually faster and cheaper): https://support.mtgox.com/entries/21651045-AML-Account-Statuses

So you know already that the bankruptcy of the magic - wand is played by the laywers rules and to their pockets
benefit of course ?

Sorry, I don't fall for cheap attempts to manipulate the price.

thank you for even considering me and my apologetic visions - which usually come true

Can you estimate how many coins were stolen by forced -majeure in bitcoin protocol ?

Even if all the BTC in stuck transactions were stolen (which is impossible, because most of the inputs were spent in three to six stuck transactions), it is still only a tenth of what MtGox has made in fees (counting only BTC fees) over the years.  It is certainly not going to bankrupt them.  You have to make up something more credible than that if you want to make people believe in your scam.

The market --thats the people- are believing in my scam right now or why are goxxed BTC´s not commanding their

"API" - premium anymore ?

[zyk]

but of course you are right people are headless assholes paying 30 % more for the same not deliverable BTC´s

at bitstamp --- it can´t get any better

[itsunderstood]

Yes, most interesting how long that 25 USD buffer existed at Gox.  Definately a speedbump of profit for some, speedbump of loss, for others>  Now it's wobbled to the other side??   Haha.  Profit everwheres!

[plays "manna" card]

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People are saying Gox premium was 25% that's stupid, it was 25 bucks at say 900 USD, so that's what, a 5% premium over bitstamp?  They never traded at 25% as some dumb writers are reporting.

[smoothie]

Yes, most interesting how long that 25 USD buffer existed at Gox.  Definately a speedbump of profit for some, speedbump of loss, for others>  Now it's wobbled to the other side??   Haha.  Profit everwheres!

[plays "manna" card]

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People are saying Gox premium was 25% that's stupid, it was 25 bucks at say 900 USD, so that's what, a 5% premium over bitstamp?  They never traded at 25% as some dumb writers are reporting.

Go back and look at the charts. There was a time when the price of bitcoin was $1050 on MTGOX and on BTC-e it was $830.

[reb0rn21]

They are very fast when you ask for bank withdrawal cancel request

[itsunderstood]

Go back and look at the charts. There was a time when the price of bitcoin was $1050 on MTGOX and on BTC-e it was $830.

Okay, I guess all the traders would know that.  I just can say I saw it easily always 25 USD above premium avg, so I can speak to that, and now I see the swong the other way.  As to the swings, not sure, but lots of bacon to be fried and eaten in that window of swing, eh?

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btw my outlook on BTC and all crypto is 1000% to the upside when wartime capital flight begins, so I don't follow the spreads much but I know all holders of crypto are smart people.  Also with upside comes flocks of criminals shits like vampire bats living their last incarnation.

[Zarathustra]

Even if all the BTC in stuck transactions were stolen (which is impossible, because most of the inputs were spent in three to six stuck transactions), it is still only a tenth of what MtGox has made in fees over the years.  It is certainly not going to bankrupt them.  You have to make up something more credible than that if you want to make people believe in your scam.

By the way: I really thanks for your comments here. There is so much scaremongering and desire for the escalation in these parts. So, is really enjoyable to read your posts.

Yes, in the bitcoin community there is a desire for the disappearing of the criminals ("trade with confidence!"). On the other side, there is enthusiastic defense, promotion and cheerleading of this criminal business behavior. That's sad, but true.

[itsunderstood]

Yes, in the bitcoin community there is a desire for the disappearing of the criminals ("trade with confidence!"). On the other side, there is enthusiastic defense, promotion and cheerleading of this criminal business behavior. That's sad, but true.

Mostly it is old debt-as-money style bankers who are the true 100 year criminals, so the BTC criminals will need to study Austrian theories to succeed in 20th century terms of large scale theft under cloak of war and then rehypothecation of world funds under money cartel to fix gold price at USD 35, and so forth.

But I am not blaming any country, because bankers and debt-as-money cadre, infiltrate all nations.

[Zarathustra]

Yes, in the bitcoin community there is a desire for the disappearing of the criminals ("trade with confidence!"). On the other side, there is enthusiastic defense, promotion and cheerleading of this criminal business behavior. That's sad, but true.

Mostly it is old debt-as-money style bankers who are the true 100 year criminals, so the BTC criminals will need to study Austrian theories to succeed in 20th century terms of large scale theft under cloak of war and then rehypothecation of world funds under money cartel to fix gold price at USD 35, and so forth.

But I am not blaming any country, because bankers and debt-as-money cadre, infiltrate all nations.

The Austrians are dreamers. Money has been debt from the very beginning. Gold and Gold 2.0 isn't money. It's a commodity.

[itsunderstood]

Yes, in the bitcoin community there is a desire for the disappearing of the criminals ("trade with confidence!"). On the other side, there is enthusiastic defense, promotion and cheerleading of this criminal business behavior. That's sad, but true.

Mostly it is old debt-as-money style bankers who are the true 100 year criminals, so the BTC criminals will need to study Austrian theories to succeed in 20th century terms of large scale theft under cloak of war and then rehypothecation of world funds under money cartel to fix gold price at USD 35, and so forth.

But I am not blaming any country, because bankers and debt-as-money cadre, infiltrate all nations.

The Austrians are dreamers. Money has been debt from the very beginning. Gold and Gold 2.0 isn't money. It's a commodity.

Debt as commodity?  Haha, where's my talmud?

[Zarathustra]

Yes, in the bitcoin community there is a desire for the disappearing of the criminals ("trade with confidence!"). On the other side, there is enthusiastic defense, promotion and cheerleading of this criminal business behavior. That's sad, but true.

Mostly it is old debt-as-money style bankers who are the true 100 year criminals, so the BTC criminals will need to study Austrian theories to succeed in 20th century terms of large scale theft under cloak of war and then rehypothecation of world funds under money cartel to fix gold price at USD 35, and so forth.

But I am not blaming any country, because bankers and debt-as-money cadre, infiltrate all nations.

The Austrians are dreamers. Money has been debt from the very beginning. Gold and Gold 2.0 isn't money. It's a commodity.

Debt as commodity?  Haha, where's my talmud?

Didn't you read? A commodity is a commodity and money is debt. No debt no money; this is the historic fact.
The austrian barter stories are science fiction beyond historic reality. Fairy tales.

[rpietila]

Okay, and why do you use MtGox still.

Decent APIs, only well functioning multi-currency exchange, very good arbitrage vs other exchanges and a deep order book.  To sum it up: Profit.

The only profit you or anyone makes from the use of Mt.Gox arises from the gross disparity of information among its users regarding how to use it, resulting from Mt.Gox discriminatory customer service practices. There is no legitimate arbitrage opportunity arising from market forces (regional money flows imbalance ie. remittances disparity) or even 3rd party actions (taxation, regulation). The only thing we are arbitraging is the severity of disparity of proprietary information among its users.

[Zarathustra]

Okay, and why do you use MtGox still.

Decent APIs, only well functioning multi-currency exchange, very good arbitrage vs other exchanges and a deep order book.  To sum it up: Profit.

The only profit you or anyone makes from the use of Mt.Gox arises from the gross disparity of information among its users regarding how to use it, resulting from Mt.Gox discriminatory customer service practices. There is no legitimate arbitrage opportunity arising from market forces (regional money flows imbalance ie. remittances disparity) or even 3rd party actions (taxation, regulation). The only thing we are arbitraging is the severity of disparity of proprietary information among its users.

Yes, and even more criminal is the statement: well functioning multi-currency exchange
How is it possible that a 'bitcoiner' says such things?

[papamoi]

did anyone recovered their btc or their fiat?