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July 08, 2017, 05:46:08 AM
Last edit: July 08, 2017, 08:26:23 AM by torrantz
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Hi i have a few questions:
Where can we find more info on blocktimes.It looks like its generating alot more blocks now
And some info about coin maturity.
Also i noticed after a stake the coins are split into 2 equal parts on a single new address.Does this mean they can stake separately cuz the blockexplorer shows them as one part.

edit: coins seems to mature after 300 confirmations.


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July 08, 2017, 01:27:22 PM
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Hi i have a few questions:
Where can we find more info on blocktimes.It looks like its generating alot more blocks now
And some info about coin maturity.
Also i noticed after a stake the coins are split into 2 equal parts on a single new address.Does this mean they can stake separately cuz the blockexplorer shows them as one part.

edit: coins seems to mature after 300 confirmations.



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Got my first 25 coins as reward and was instantly excluded from mining, coz i dont have any mature coins. WTF?)
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July 08, 2017, 02:53:49 PM
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funny how people still POW mine this coin with 0 block reward
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funny how people still POW mine this coin with 0 block reward

well it's not funny, it's on purpose
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July 08, 2017, 11:26:45 PM
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Got my first 25 coins as reward and was instantly excluded from mining, coz i dont have any mature coins. WTF?)


maybe you should learn how PoS works before feeling so "wtf"    Cheesy   Cheesy

what you describe is completely normal and happens to EVERYONE as its HOW PoS WORKS Cheesy 

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July 09, 2017, 07:41:27 AM
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after 300 confirms - "getinfo" return

{
"version" : "v1.0.0.1",
"protocolversion" : 60021,
"walletversion" : 60000,
"balance" : 5001.97000000,
"newmint" : 0.00000000,
"stake" : 0.00000000,
"blocks" : 13927,
"timeoffset" : 0,

"getstakinginfo" return

{
"enabled" : true,
"staking" : true,
"errors" : "",
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"pooledtx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 373299.55250019,
"search-interval" : 16,
"weight" : 500197000000,
"netstakeweight" : 75404609970038,
"expectedtime" : 45224
}

what am I doing wrong ?

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Got my first 25 coins as reward and was instantly excluded from mining, coz i dont have any mature coins. WTF?)


maybe you should learn how PoS works before feeling so "wtf"    Cheesy   Cheesy

what you describe is completely normal and happens to EVERYONE as its HOW PoS WORKS Cheesy 

lmao

Thats why i am asking those questions, right?)
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Sorry for the google form i dont have the option to generate a new signup link on Slack.

PS: We will do our best to get the channel in shape and populated with the relevant information.

A great sunday to everyone.


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after 300 confirms - "getinfo" return

{
"version" : "v1.0.0.1",
"protocolversion" : 60021,
"walletversion" : 60000,
"balance" : 5001.97000000,
"newmint" : 0.00000000,
"stake" : 0.00000000,
"blocks" : 13927,
"timeoffset" : 0,

"getstakinginfo" return

{
"enabled" : true,
"staking" : true,
"errors" : "",
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"pooledtx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 373299.55250019,
"search-interval" : 16,
"weight" : 500197000000,
"netstakeweight" : 75404609970038,
"expectedtime" : 45224
}

what am I doing wrong ?



Why you think, you're doing something wrong?
You're not doing anything wrong.
Just your expected time to find block is quite high, for about a half of day,
because of your low amount in wallet, if you want to find block more quickly, get more tokens.
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July 09, 2017, 01:49:38 PM
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Why they removed this coin from zpool? is it still minable? why there is no any normal pool? the AikaPool.com Suprnova.cc are overloaded and not responsive. so this coin is discontinued?
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July 09, 2017, 01:50:44 PM
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Why they removed this coin from zpool? is it still minable? why there is no any normal pool? the AikaPool.com Suprnova.cc are overloaded and not responsive. so this coin is discontinued?

Overloaded ?! Nothing is overloaded... The opposite maybe Smiley

POW for this coin has ended - you cannot mine it anymore (and thats what I've wrote on the pool as well)

suprnova pools - reliable mining pools - #suprnova on freenet
https://www.suprnova.cc - FOLLOW us @ Twitter ! twitter.com/SuprnovaPools
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July 09, 2017, 02:21:39 PM
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Got my first 25 coins as reward and was instantly excluded from mining, coz i dont have any mature coins. WTF?)


maybe you should learn how PoS works before feeling so "wtf"    Cheesy   Cheesy

what you describe is completely normal and happens to EVERYONE as its HOW PoS WORKS Cheesy  

lmao

Thats why i am asking those questions, right?)

true!  just sounds funny when someone has a car then comes and says "WTF, did you know this thing has an ENGINE?!?"   Cheesy Cheesy
cause thats basically what you did ;p

Honestly, its funny but cool at the same time, this coin seems to be alot of peoples first experience with PoS coins that have custom params haha so lots new users in this thread asking noob questions Cheesy
its like 2013 all over again Cheesy

 
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July 09, 2017, 02:30:11 PM
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Why they removed this coin from zpool? is it still minable? why there is no any normal pool? the AikaPool.com Suprnova.cc are overloaded and not responsive. so this coin is discontinued?


Yes, OC, unlike Zpool and akia posted that PoW was over on his pool.
those others dont say shit they just waste your hash (or zpool im sure redirects it for their own means till people manually switch)



Price up, supply running thin, buy now or cry later! ;p

*for those staking wondering about rewards.     You will need like 2500 Netko+ to stake once a day at current net weight.
Keep in mind net staking weight also historically goes UP over time, so you need to get as many as you want ASAP, it will only get harder as time go on, inflation just took a MASSIVE decline on this coin. Cheesy

 
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Hi dev,
can you please check out this issue for me?

I'm trying to compile wallet in ubuntu 14.04,
but I'm getting this error.

Code:
src/blake2s-ref.c: In function ‘blake2s_init0’:
src/blake2s-ref.c:136:3: error: ‘for’ loop initial declarations are only allowed in C99 mode
   for( int i = 0; i < 8; ++i ) S->h[i] = blake2s_IV[i];
   ^
src/blake2s-ref.c:136:3: note: use option -std=c99 or -std=gnu99 to compile your code
src/blake2s-ref.c: In function ‘blake2s_init_param’:
src/blake2s-ref.c:148:3: error: ‘for’ loop initial declarations are only allowed in C99 mode
   for( size_t i = 0; i < 8; ++i )
   ^
src/blake2s-ref.c: In function ‘blake2s_compress’:
src/blake2s-ref.c:214:3: error: ‘for’ loop initial declarations are only allowed in C99 mode
   for( size_t i = 0; i < 16; ++i )
   ^
src/blake2s-ref.c:217:15: error: redefinition of ‘i’
   for( size_t i = 0; i < 8; ++i )
               ^
src/blake2s-ref.c:214:15: note: previous definition of ‘i’ was here
   for( size_t i = 0; i < 16; ++i )
               ^
src/blake2s-ref.c:217:3: error: ‘for’ loop initial declarations are only allowed in C99 mode
   for( size_t i = 0; i < 8; ++i )
   ^
src/blake2s-ref.c:261:15: error: redefinition of ‘i’
   for( size_t i = 0; i < 8; ++i )
               ^
src/blake2s-ref.c:217:15: note: previous definition of ‘i’ was here
   for( size_t i = 0; i < 8; ++i )
               ^
src/blake2s-ref.c:261:3: error: ‘for’ loop initial declarations are only allowed in C99 mode
   for( size_t i = 0; i < 8; ++i )
   ^
src/blake2s-ref.c: In function ‘blake2s_final’:
src/blake2s-ref.c:320:3: error: ‘for’ loop initial declarations are only allowed in C99 mode
   for( int i = 0; i < 8; ++i ) /* Output full hash to temp buffer */
   ^
make: *** [build/blake2s-ref.o] Error 1
make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....

I have clean installation, I'm trying to compile with these steps:
https://github.com/netkotech/netko/blob/master/doc/readme-qt.rst


Can you help me, sort out this thing?
cheers

e: tried with gcc 4.8.4 and 4.9.4

Did you manage to solve this? I have no problems on 16.04 or 14.04

1. git clone https://github.com/netkotech/netko.git
2. cd netko
3. qmake
4. make


do i need to be root to do this?
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July 09, 2017, 04:11:57 PM
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Got my first 25 coins as reward and was instantly excluded from mining, coz i dont have any mature coins. WTF?)


maybe you should learn how PoS works before feeling so "wtf"    Cheesy   Cheesy

what you describe is completely normal and happens to EVERYONE as its HOW PoS WORKS Cheesy  

lmao

Thats why i am asking those questions, right?)

true!  just sounds funny when someone has a car then comes and says "WTF, did you know this thing has an ENGINE?!?"   Cheesy Cheesy
cause thats basically what you did ;p

Honestly, its funny but cool at the same time, this coin seems to be alot of peoples first experience with PoS coins that have custom params haha so lots new users in this thread asking noob questions Cheesy
its like 2013 all over again Cheesy
This time i got only half of my coins excluded from mining after another 25 -_- It's not so easy to understand, when you get different result from the same action)) Anyway thanks for your time, i appreciate your efforts)
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July 09, 2017, 04:31:00 PM
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@kiss

it's all relative to when each WHOLE (1) coin (or piles of coins as it's technically by TX) matured in your wallet.

Each individual coin needs 301 confirms to become eligible to stake, and AFTER a stake, that resets, but ONLY on the coins that staked.
The REST of your coins CONTINUE to stake (and you will notice you have a lower "weight")
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof-of-stake  -- that prob explains better than i can ;p ;p

Cheesy

Note* each coin is different parameters usually for PoS, so that links just a breakdown on how PoS works GENERALLY Smiley

 
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July 09, 2017, 05:13:35 PM
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I prefer splitting tokens into multiple addresses.Weight lowers but chances to find a block slightly increases.I dont like all coins locked up for 301 confirms.So far i got one stake/day with only 978 tokens.
I guess its about finding a good balance compared to the network weight.To soon to put a number on it but 2500 seems like a overkill to me.
Yesterday i had a address with 149 tokens that staked within a few hours after maturing but the network is gaining weight.
Now awaiting the next stake
Good luck all

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July 09, 2017, 05:56:25 PM
Last edit: July 09, 2017, 06:19:01 PM by usuksobad
 #519

Hey guys,

I'm the guy who is from a noob section aswell.

Allright i have the coins in my wallet, wanna start staking it but dont know from where should i start, how does it work. Maybe somewhere is a simple tutorial how to do it just copy paste me if you can or short words.

Thanks guys!


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{
"version" : "v1.0.0.1",
"protocolversion" : 60021,
"walletversion" : 60000,
"balance" : 233.99000000,
"newmint" : 0.00000000,
"stake" : 0.00000000,
"blocks" : 14150,
"timeoffset" : 0,
"moneysupply" : 3374040.00000000,
"connections" : 1,
"proxy" : "",
"ip" : "0.0.0.0",
"difficulty" : {
"proof-of-work" : 691.72342606,
"proof-of-stake" : 357944.13459153
},
"testnet" : false,
"keypoololdest" : 1499621292,
"keypoolsize" : 99,
"paytxfee" : 0.00000000,
"mininput" : 0.00000000,
"unlocked_until" : 0,
"errors" : ""
}


21:18:24

getstakinginfo


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{
"enabled" : true,
"staking" : false,
"errors" : "",
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"pooledtx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 357944.13459153,
"search-interval" : 0,
"weight" : 0,
"netstakeweight" : 75110146700900,
"expectedtime" : 0
}

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July 09, 2017, 06:37:06 PM
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Hey guys,

I'm the guy who is from a noob section aswell.

Allright i have the coins in my wallet, wanna start staking it but dont know from where should i start, how does it work. Maybe somewhere is a simple tutorial how to do it just copy paste me if you can or short words.

Thanks guys!


21:18:08

{
"version" : "v1.0.0.1",
"protocolversion" : 60021,
"walletversion" : 60000,
"balance" : 233.99000000,
"newmint" : 0.00000000,
"stake" : 0.00000000,
"blocks" : 14150,
"timeoffset" : 0,
"moneysupply" : 3374040.00000000,
"connections" : 1,
"proxy" : "",
"ip" : "0.0.0.0",
"difficulty" : {
"proof-of-work" : 691.72342606,
"proof-of-stake" : 357944.13459153
},
"testnet" : false,
"keypoololdest" : 1499621292,
"keypoolsize" : 99,
"paytxfee" : 0.00000000,
"mininput" : 0.00000000,
"unlocked_until" : 0,
"errors" : ""
}


21:18:24

getstakinginfo


21:18:24

{
"enabled" : true,
"staking" : false,
"errors" : "",
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"pooledtx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 357944.13459153,
"search-interval" : 0,
"weight" : 0,
"netstakeweight" : 75110146700900,
"expectedtime" : 0
}


Well you did it.There's nothing to do for staking.Just put the tokens in the wallet and leave it open.After they are mature they wil stake.

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