[ANN][ZEN] ZENCASH: Permanent, Distributed, and Fully Anonymous cryptocurrency

[thesavoyard]

Just for reference. I am running 2x MSI Radeon R9 390 8gb Gaming cards stock at 1040/1500 getting a total of 780 sols. Power draw per card seems to be around 190 with a 220 spike.

Since it's equihash based, you can use zcash benchmarks.

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[blockops]

Is there a link anywhere to the roadmap?

Just published an update to the roadmap here: https://blog.zensystem.io/current-status-and-roadmap-for-zen-upgrades-and-improvements-july-2017/

[Confucio]

https://blog.zensystem.io/current-status-and-roadmap-for-zen-upgrades-and-improvements-july-2017/

Current Status and Roadmap for Zen Upgrades and Improvements July 2017

ZenCash has been in operation for 6 weeks now. It’s been an exciting time! We have our team working together to implement the capabilities outlined in the Zen White Paper, available at the ZenCash website. We have a roadmap in the white paper, and are making slight adjustments to it. Before discussing the roadmap, it is worthwhile to review where we are right now.
Current Status of ZenCash

There is much more to a crypytocurrency than the software. Software is important, and without it nothing else works, but there are a lot of other things that have to happen to make a cryptocurrency successful. The current status and roadmap plans will discuss all these elements of success, including the software.
Software

    Zen node software is based off of Zcash created from a chainsplit with Zclassic, with the addition of the full BIP-115 transaction replay protection so nothing done on the Zclassic blockchain affects ZenCash.
    Secure Node Software is in development. Project manager and specification writer is contracted and working to develop the system for tracking and payment.
    Private communications using Shielded Transaction Memo field works on desktop wallets. Users are able to send 512 Byte memos when sending from a shielded ZenCash address to a shielded ZenCash address

Wallets

ZenCash desktop wallet software has three supported versions.

    Command line wallet for Linux, Mac, and Windows
    ZenCash Swing Wallet for Linux, Mac, and Windows
    Eleos Equihash wallet for Linux, Mac, and Windows

Exchanges for Trading and Investing

Zen on CoinMarketCap

    ZenCash on Bittrex
    ZenCash on TradeSatoshi
    ZenCash on CryptoDAO

Governance and Treasury

Zen Blockchain Foundation created to promote the interests of Zen. The goal is to decentralize sooner rather than later, and part of that is creating a community organization that’s above any individual. The Zen Blockchain Foundation is a Delaware-based nonprofit corporation.

Currently, funds are being allocated and spent from the ZenCash Treasury for development on Zen software, marketing, and governance development by the founding members of the team – Rob Viglione, Rolf Versluis, and Jane Lippencott.

There is significant discussion that happens with many members of the Zen community as these decisions are made.
Zen Team

There are a lot of people working to make Zen a success! See the information and pictures of the current team on the ZenCash website. There are many people contributing in many ways right now.

The Board of Directors for the nonprofit are those we formerly launched as being part of either the Core Team or the DAO officers: Robert Viglione, Rolf Versluis, Jane Lippencott, Steven Nerayoff, and Carlo Vicari. These are founders and those with deep experience building cryptocurrencies from the ground up.
Mining Pools

    ZenMine Pro – https://zenmine.pro/
    Cryptobroker – https://pool.cryptobroker.io/zen/
    BitFire Pool – https://zen.bitfire.one/
    MineZ Zone – https://minez.zone/
    Luckpool – http://www.luckpool.org/
    Miningspeed – http://zen.miningspeed.com/
    ZenCash Cloud – http://zencash.cloud
    Zen Mining Pool IO – http://miningpool.io/
    Zcrypt – http://zcrypt.live
    MineIX – http://mineix.ca/
    Zpool – http://www.zpool.ca/
    SuprNova – https://zen.suprnova.cc/

Zen Mining Profit Calculator – https://whattomine.com/coins/185-zen-equihash
Zen Mining Pool Forum Topic – https://forum.zensystem.io/t/zen-mining-pools-list/73
Mining Software

    Claymore for AMD GPU on Linux and Windows
    Optiminer for AMD GPU on Linux and Windows
    EWBF CUDA for Nvidia GPU on Linux and Windows

Block Explorers

    http://node1.zenchain.info:8886/
    http://explorer.zenmine.pro/insight/

International Support

Bitcointalk announcement and discussion threads in multiple languages

    ZenCash BitcoinTalk Chinese
    ZenCash BitcoinTalk Dutch
    ZenCash BitcoinTalk Romanian
    ZenCash BitcoinTalk Russian
    ZenCash BitcoinTalk Spanish
    ZenCash BitcoinTalk Italian
    ZenCash BitcoinTalk Arabic

Marketing

Marketing has been driven by community members promoting and sharing information about ZenCash. This includes activity on the following platforms as well as interviews and conference attendance by Rob and Jane summarized in the ZenCash Blog.

    ZenCash website
    ZenCash Blog
    ZenCash Forum
    ZenCash Slack
    ZenCash on Twitter
    ZenCash on BitcoinTalk
    ZenCash YouTube Channel
    ZenCash Reddit
    ZenCash Facebook Page
    ZenCash Blog on Medium

Public Relations

Zen has a contract with public relations from Wachsman PR. The media placements and interview opportunities they provide bring ZenCash awareness to a larger audience.

Forbes – Bitquence In Crypto Crowdfund For ‘Consumer-Friendly’ Wallet & ‘One-Click’ Diversification
Talk Markets – Advice for buying cryptocurrency
Comments on Illinois blockchain legislation featured in Finance Magnates
EconoTimes – ZenCash performs software transition in partnership with blockchain startup IOHK
Payments Journal – ZenCash Successfully Upgrades to Highly-Secure, Transaction Replay-Resistant System
Finance Magnates interview with Rob Viglione
Rob Viglione interview on the Tatiana Show
ZenCash Roadmap
Zen Node Software

    Zen node software will be upgraded soon to make some improvements. This will be a Hard Fork, meaning system node operators must upgrade to continue operating in consensus with the rest of the network. Summary of updates:
        Bug fixes on P2SH multisig addresses to make them compatible with replay protection.
        Upping the community funding to 12% of block rewards, adding the 3.5% secure node rewards to the current 8.5% pool. These funds will be held in escrow until the secure node network goes live.
        Swapping out old community fund addresses for new ones.
        Changing the requirement for community fund UTXO to first be sent to z_addresses. These funds will still all be sent through z_addresses before being spent to preserve fungibility, but requiring it in the first step limits multisig security.
    Zen node communication encryption. Part of security is enabling encryption of communication traffic between nodes and wallets. This is the next item on the development list after. For a more complete explanation, and an example of a proposal for Bitcoin to get the upgrade, here is an article about a proposal BIP 151: The End-To-End Encryption Bitcoin Never Had – but Soon Will.
    Zen node software support for ARM processors. This will enable nodes to be run on Raspberry Pi and similar small systems that cost well under $100.

Zen Secure Nodes

An important part of ZenCash is operating Secure Nodes. Zen nodes run the software that makes the ZenCash system work. The purpose of ZenCash Secure Nodes is to create a network that is large and resilient enough to provide the foundation for a worldwide private communication and publishing system that is difficult to interrupt and gather data on. The ideal would be 1000-5000 secure nodes, each running on a separate system, all over the world.

There will be software applications that use the Zen node software as a service. This software will go through multiple versions as it becomes a decentralized and more automatic system. The plan for the first version is to get a reliable and centralized tracking and payment system operating. A brief description is:

    Software running on each node connects to Zen Secure Node Tracking Server
    Tracking Server tracks which nodes meet Secure Node compliance requirements
    Payment Server creates payment transactions.
    Zen Secure Node Reporting server creates and publishes reports of Secure Nodes and Payment status

ZenCash has contracted a Project Manager and Specification Writer who is working on publishing the specifics for development. Specifications are expected soon, and development, testing, then deployment will follow.
Wallet Software

Wallet upgrades and new wallets are on the way. Plans for wallets

    The secure messaging and publishing capability of Zen takes place in the wallets. Multiple wallet improvements are in progress to make messaging a more user-friendly feature.
        One to one message listings
        One to many message capability
        Integration with IPFS publishing (see below)
    Secure Node staking feature in the ZenCash wallet
    Mobile wallets for transparent addresses.
    Hardware wallets for transparent addresses.

Also on the roadmap is the ability to conduct shielded transactions on mobile wallets and with hardware wallets.
InterPlanetary File System Integration for Publishing

In addition to private communications, an important part of the ZenCash roadmap is the ability to integrate IPFS publishing into the private one-to-one and one-to-many communications.

The big picture overview is that a user can publish something on IPFS, then message the IPFS hash to others using the ZenCash wallet where it can then be accessed.

There are other distributed file system projects that are able to be integrated as well. IPFS will be the first, and the capability to use it will be integrated into the wallet. It may be beneficial to have the Secure Nodes also operate as IPFS peers to ensure the anonymous publishing and access capabilities are available worldwide.
Proposals, Projects, and Funding

ZenCash has a great community. Supportive, positive, and encompassing many different talents. We are building a process for people to create proposals for work, to be paid for in ZenCash from the Treasury. These proposal would be discussed, a decision made on whether to fund or not, and would be turned into funded projects with deadlines.

This could be for feature development, companion software, marketing initiatives, or other types of activity that would help improve ZenCash

The first stage of this process will be done in the ZenCash Forum.
Treasury and Governance

The Zen Blockchain Foundation requires the ability to manage representative governance. The model and software for this needs to be built. This should be completed by the end of 2017.

The intention is to continue to develop the existing culture of an inclusive and egalitarian community of people working together to built something great. As Zen grows, there will be an ability to make changes to how it is set up and operated.

One example that gets debated quite a bit is the right amount of funds for Secure Nodes. Some people are happy with 42 Zen and 3.5% reward. Others think it should be higher. These are the types of things that can be changed in the future with an inclusive and representative governance system.
Documentation and International Support

ZenCash is focused on end-user adoption and creating systems that are reliable and useful for people worldwide. This means documentation in many different languages.

Documentation needs to be created and maintained for:

    Wallet installation, operation, and upgrades
    Secure messaging using shielded transactions.
    Secure Node software installation, operation, upgrade, and maintenance.

Systems and Procedures for Reliable Internal Operations

ZenCash already has multiple information systems that are used for communicating and organizing the activity of the community. These are going to grow and increase in complexity, especially as we add in requirements for resiliency and uptime.

Zen will need an IT staff that uses industry standard methods to ensure reliability, security, uptime, and usability of the ZenCash information systems. This means hiring a systems administrator and putting him or her to work.
Research & Development and Future Roadmap Planning

ZenCash is off to a great start leveraging the software created by Zcash. Over time, ZenCash will continue to add features specific to Zen. An example is the Secure Node system. There are other ways that Zen can improve as well. There should be a formal method of working with talented academic researchers to prototype and develop continuous improvements.

Zen is going to be around and accomplishing great things for a long time. In parallel with building out the 1-2 year roadmap (with slight adjustments as we go) described in the Zen White Paper, it will be important to have a longer term view for improvements as well so ZenCash can continue to stay at the forefront of cryptocurrency capabilities.
Reference:

ZenCash Website – https://zensystem.io
ZenCash Blog – https://blog.zensystem.io
ZenCash Github – https://github.com/ZencashOfficial
ZenCash Forum – https://forum.zensystem.io
ZenCash Slack – https://slackinvite.zensystem.io
ZenCash Twitter – @ZenCashOfficial
ZenCash Telegram – https://t.me/zencash
ZenCash on Bitcointalk – https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1819977.0
ZenCash YouTube Channel – https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQ0v_lUnZHIKUQUXJzfgqOg
ZenCash Facebook Page – https://www.facebook.com/zencash/
ZenCash Blog on Medium – https://medium.com/zencash

Buy or Sell ZenCash
ZenCash on CoinMarketCap – https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/zencash/
ZenCash on Bittrex – https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-ZEN
ZenCash on TradeSatoshi – https://www.tradesatoshi.com/Exchange?market=ZEN_BTC
ZenCash on CryptoDAO – https://cryptodao.com/

[buta]

Hello,

For the first time i want try to mine.
But i don't understand... i've done all ask here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6-6J6U_vz4
But it don't work to me ...

INFO 00:44:26: GPU0 Accepted share 87ms [A:17, R:0]
INFO 00:44:35: GPU0 Accepted share 105ms [A:18, R:0]
Temp: GPU0: 65C
GPU0: 276 Sol/s
Total speed: 276 Sol/s
INFO 00:44:56: GPU0 Accepted share 89ms [A:19, R:0]
Temp: GPU0: 66C
GPU0: 273 Sol/s
Total speed: 273 Sol/s
INFO 00:45:08: GPU0 Accepted share 92ms [A:20, R:0]
INFO 00:45:09: GPU0 Accepted share 86ms [A:21, R:0]
INFO 00:45:15: GPU0 Accepted share 114ms [A:22, R:0]
INFO 00:45:24: GPU0 Accepted share 174ms [A:23, R:0]
INFO 00:45:37: GPU0 Accepted share 89ms [A:24, R:0]
Temp: GPU0: 66C
GPU0: 272 Sol/s
Total speed: 272 Sol/s
INFO 00:45:41: GPU0 Accepted share 88ms [A:25, R:0]
INFO: Detected new work: 1707142c
Temp: GPU0: 66C
GPU0: 277 Sol/s
Total speed: 277 Sol/s
INFO 00:46:11: GPU0 Accepted share 88ms [A:26, R:0]
INFO 00:46:29: GPU0 Accepted share 121ms [A:27, R:0]
Temp: GPU0: 66C
GPU0: 276 Sol/s
Total speed: 276 Sol/s
INFO 00:46:47: GPU0 Accepted share 87ms [A:28, R:0]

So it works, but on zen.suprnova.cc i don't get any coin, i see no worker working ("no data avaible in table" to the right on the pool hashrate). And so, obviously, my hasrate is at 0.00SOL/s.
OFC i've created the worker, and set this in suprnova.bat:

miner --server zen.suprnova.cc --user X.X --pass X --port 3618

Any idea about what i've to do to fix the problem, please? Thanks.

[Confucio]

Hello,

For the first time i want try to mine.
But i don't understand... i've done all ask here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6-6J6U_vz4
But it don't work to me ...

INFO 00:44:26: GPU0 Accepted share 87ms [A:17, R:0]
INFO 00:44:35: GPU0 Accepted share 105ms [A:18, R:0]
Temp: GPU0: 65C
GPU0: 276 Sol/s
Total speed: 276 Sol/s
INFO 00:44:56: GPU0 Accepted share 89ms [A:19, R:0]
Temp: GPU0: 66C
GPU0: 273 Sol/s
Total speed: 273 Sol/s
INFO 00:45:08: GPU0 Accepted share 92ms [A:20, R:0]
INFO 00:45:09: GPU0 Accepted share 86ms [A:21, R:0]
INFO 00:45:15: GPU0 Accepted share 114ms [A:22, R:0]
INFO 00:45:24: GPU0 Accepted share 174ms [A:23, R:0]
INFO 00:45:37: GPU0 Accepted share 89ms [A:24, R:0]
Temp: GPU0: 66C
GPU0: 272 Sol/s
Total speed: 272 Sol/s
INFO 00:45:41: GPU0 Accepted share 88ms [A:25, R:0]
INFO: Detected new work: 1707142c
Temp: GPU0: 66C
GPU0: 277 Sol/s
Total speed: 277 Sol/s
INFO 00:46:11: GPU0 Accepted share 88ms [A:26, R:0]
INFO 00:46:29: GPU0 Accepted share 121ms [A:27, R:0]
Temp: GPU0: 66C
GPU0: 276 Sol/s
Total speed: 276 Sol/s
INFO 00:46:47: GPU0 Accepted share 87ms [A:28, R:0]

So it works, but on zen.suprnova.cc i don't get any coin, i see no worker working ("no data avaible in table" to the right on the pool hashrate). And so, obviously, my hasrate is at 0.00SOL/s.
OFC i've created the worker, and set this in suprnova.bat:

miner --server zen.suprnova.cc --user X.X --pass X --port 3618

Any idea about what i've to do to fix the problem, please? Thanks.

Seems everything is correct , have you tried other pools ?

https://zensystem.io/mining-pools/

[MedaR]

Hello,

For the first time i want try to mine.
But i don't understand... i've done all ask here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6-6J6U_vz4
But it don't work to me ...
So it works, but on zen.suprnova.cc i don't get any coin, i see no worker working ("no data avaible in table" to the right on the pool hashrate). And so, obviously, my hasrate is at 0.00SOL/s.
OFC i've created the worker, and set this in suprnova.bat:

miner --server zen.suprnova.cc --user X.X --pass X --port 3618

Any idea about what i've to do to fix the problem, please? Thanks.

Be sure you are using latest drivers for cards and latest miner. I don't have much experience with nvidia but try to lower your settings directly in miner. Try to change drivers first this could help.

Is there a link anywhere to the roadmap?

Their White Paper says this: " The initial Road map covers a 12- to 18-month development window to get the system functioning autonomously"

Providing exact dates and then prolonging it is not professional, team have made good decision in this case. Im not sure what else you are referring?

[Boogan]

Is there a link anywhere to the roadmap?

Just published an update to the roadmap here: https://blog.zensystem.io/current-status-and-roadmap-for-zen-upgrades-and-improvements-july-2017/

You might want to create a Wikipedia page for Zencash.  Just checked and don't think there is one there yet.  Lot of people head there first to check what its all about.
Just my .02

[Zencash]

We are running an Avatar and Signature Campaign on Bitcointalk, starting now!

If you are a Full, Senior, Hero, or Legendary member you are eligible to apply for the campaign.

The purpose of the campaign is to get people who are trusted and regularly post in multiple forums to bring attention to ZenCash.

Bitcointalk is one of the best places to find experience crypto investors who would be interested in becoming ZenCash community members.

Check it out here!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2021207

[Aerys2]

We are running an Avatar and Signature Campaign on Bitcointalk, starting now!

If you are a Full, Senior, Hero, or Legendary member you are eligible to apply for the campaign.

The purpose of the campaign is to get people who are trusted and regularly post in multiple forums to bring attention to ZenCash.

Bitcointalk is one of the best places to find experience crypto investors who would be interested in becoming ZenCash community members.

Check it out here!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2021207

Do you have any job requiring french translation ?

[MedaR]

Do you have any job requiring french translation ?

It is always wise to join and slack channel, so you can present their your abilities, and what you can do for this project, the management will make decisions in your favor if you are really good, this is my presumation.

[teosanru]

Hello someone could tell me how many coins are needed for a masternode, their technical requirements, and if there is any guide available configuration, I also want to know what is the gain of a masternode per day, and from what date begin to be implemented? Thanks you for the answers

[icolsuineg]

Good job at being one of the few coins that didn't plunge together with BTC, actually ZEN gained price and almost kept USD price (well, it dropped, no wonder, but far from what happened to HUSH and KMD, for example).

BTW, why not Cryptopia for exchange? Or even YoBit?
CryptoDAO never struck me as respectful exchange, their website is lacking, to say at least. Bittrex is covered, for those that enjoy it, but currently seems the only meaningful way to trade Zen.

 

Hello,

For the first time i want try to mine.
But i don't understand... i've done all ask here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6-6J6U_vz4
But it don't work to me ...

INFO 00:44:26: GPU0 Accepted share 87ms [A:17, R:0]
INFO 00:44:35: GPU0 Accepted share 105ms [A:18, R:0]
Temp: GPU0: 65C
GPU0: 276 Sol/s
Total speed: 276 Sol/s
INFO 00:44:56: GPU0 Accepted share 89ms [A:19, R:0]
Temp: GPU0: 66C
GPU0: 273 Sol/s
Total speed: 273 Sol/s
INFO 00:45:08: GPU0 Accepted share 92ms [A:20, R:0]
INFO 00:45:09: GPU0 Accepted share 86ms [A:21, R:0]
INFO 00:45:15: GPU0 Accepted share 114ms [A:22, R:0]
INFO 00:45:24: GPU0 Accepted share 174ms [A:23, R:0]
INFO 00:45:37: GPU0 Accepted share 89ms [A:24, R:0]
Temp: GPU0: 66C
GPU0: 272 Sol/s
Total speed: 272 Sol/s
INFO 00:45:41: GPU0 Accepted share 88ms [A:25, R:0]
INFO: Detected new work: 1707142c
Temp: GPU0: 66C
GPU0: 277 Sol/s
Total speed: 277 Sol/s
INFO 00:46:11: GPU0 Accepted share 88ms [A:26, R:0]
INFO 00:46:29: GPU0 Accepted share 121ms [A:27, R:0]
Temp: GPU0: 66C
GPU0: 276 Sol/s
Total speed: 276 Sol/s
INFO 00:46:47: GPU0 Accepted share 87ms [A:28, R:0]

So it works, but on zen.suprnova.cc i don't get any coin, i see no worker working ("no data avaible in table" to the right on the pool hashrate). And so, obviously, my hasrate is at 0.00SOL/s.
OFC i've created the worker, and set this in suprnova.bat:

miner --server zen.suprnova.cc --user X.X --pass X --port 3618

Any idea about what i've to do to fix the problem, please? Thanks.

miner --server zen.suprnova.cc --user YOURLOGINNAME.WORKERNAME --pass d=128 --port 3618

Try changing the pass to d=128, which would set the rate to something bearable for your speed (or play around if it makes too many or too few shares)

Also note Suprnova has slow worker update, it might take few long minutes to catch up. Also check if the worker is orange (active) in your worker profile page.

[MedaR]

Hello someone could tell me how many coins are needed for a masternode, their technical requirements, and if there is any guide available configuration, I also want to know what is the gain of a masternode per day, and from what date begin to be implemented? Thanks you for the answers

It will be required 42 coins for master node, but this is not yet finished so you cannot set up one yet. You can find out more about nodes: https://blog.zensystem.io/zencash-secure-node-system-overview-video/  But it would be vise to grab those coins at bargain prices while you still can, once when node are redy for set up, price probly will follow progress.

[supercops]

Good job at being one of the few coins that didn't plunge together with BTC, actually ZEN gained price and almost kept USD price (well, it dropped, no wonder, but far from what happened to HUSH and KMD, for example).

BTW, why not Cryptopia for exchange? Or even YoBit?
CryptoDAO never struck me as respectful exchange, their website is lacking, to say at least. Bittrex is covered, for those that enjoy it, but currently seems the only meaningful way to trade Zen.
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miner --server zen.suprnova.cc --user YOURLOGINNAME.WORKERNAME --pass d=128 --port 3618

Try changing the pass to d=128, which would set the rate to something bearable for your speed (or play around if it makes too many or too few shares)

Also note Suprnova has slow worker update, it might take few long minutes to catch up. Also check if the worker is orange (active) in your worker profile page.

Just finished downloading the wallet and it just catching up with the most recent transactions.
It is rather quick so I have no problems in waiting it to finish before looking for an exchange to start buying from so to deposit to my wallet address to test it out.
As to your request in not seeing it available on any other exchanges then the one you listed, it is available to start trading on bittrex as someone on the bounty campaign thread has already mentioned and was asking if using an address wallet from them was safe.
I am not so sure since even poloniex had issues in the past couple of weeks with their withdrawals so i would say no to that.
Might as well store your own coins in a wallet you have on your pc and use exchange sites for only that purpose in mind,
To only trade this coin on in regards to buying and sell,
but that is it!

[iamnewhere]

how large is the blockchain to download with the wallet right now? with all the different wallets and their key-chains i'm running out of disk-space on my dedicated wallet workstation

[TheCrimsonFucker]

Are the conditions for mining Zencash still favorable? And what can we expect for the next 6 months for applications and utilities? Is it a project that will be victorious in the long run?

[glynbueso]

Good model. I´ll try to get some coins.

[alford]

What is the benefit of mining?

[puwaha]

What is the benefit of mining?

You get compensated with Zen coins for lending your hashrate to a pool.

[MedaR]

Are the conditions for mining Zencash still favorable? And what can we expect for the next 6 months for applications and utilities? Is it a project that will be victorious in the long run?

This project have resolved problems with funding and in long run it must be victorious. Already Team started with investments in PR and marketing which is crucial for every project. They are working on implementation of secure nodes, and many more will come, be sure in thet.

Good model. I´ll try to get some coins.

Yeas and team grows every day becoming stronger and more organized. Those are successful models with good organizacion.

What is the benefit of mining?

You get compensated with Zen coins for lending your hashrate to a pool.

Secure nodes will be really something and they will make major impact, on price and number of coins in circulation. This will be very good and for miners.