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June 29, 2017, 02:09:55 PM
Last edit: June 29, 2017, 02:39:44 PM by Jmattes
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Anyone else experience this problem;

I have 3 Asus FE 1080ti on one board with some case fans to move the air around. Fan speed at 70%, cards at 80% power. Temps were 60-70 for The last 24hrs.. before adding the 3rd I had the first and third pci-e slots used and the cards were stable.

I wake up this morning (24hrs after installing the 3rd card) and the first one is running at 84 degrees.. I check the fans there all working, the fan on the gpu is working..

I turn off the rig (twice now) and the gpu wont come back online. I didn't have time to further investigate as I needed to go to work..

Thoughts ?

I had that problem before using seasonic 1250xm (the old version) ... newer version is 1250XM2 ... it is a power supply issue.

my temporary fix before I acquired a new replacement is, turn on and off the switch of the psu (motherboard bios settings is "resume after power loss"), so you won't go to the trouble of pressing on after switching the psu on......chances are you get lucy and it powers on.


unless there are other issues..



I wouldn't of figured it was a psu issue.. I have the remaining two cards still running..
Since I've been remoting in I can only do a restart and not fully turn it off. Guess I will be troubleshooting tonight.

All the parts are within 30 days if I need to do some returns..

I re read your post...so 2 gpu are running and 1 is not...it is a riser issue, or a pcie socket on the motherboard.

check the power that goes to the riser and check the usb cable, check the riser too....it is good to have spares so you can swap parts (troubleshooting)

It would have to be either a card issue or pci-e. They arent on risers.. direct onto the mobo.
What got me was it was stable at temps between 60-70 for almost 24hours and I wont up to it being 84.. nothing changed over night.
SO odd.  It was the card with the monitor plugged into it so, not that the monitor was on or anything.

Just checked nicehash's report log and for 2 hours last night my rig didn't produce any numbers and then came back online.. So I guess that had something to do with the temperature change.. the plot thickens.. So so odd.

I will trouble shoot tonight.
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June 29, 2017, 03:41:00 PM
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Okay  hows is this for a problem?

I am supposed to sell 2 diamond rx 480 8gb gpus
they are now going for an insane price from the builder  over 600 usd.
http://www.diamondmultimediastore.com/diamond-video-graphic-cards/radeon-rx400-series


I made a promise to sell them  in my pm's   and of course  I have had 48 pages of pm's since I purchased them in march.

so if you read this please resend the pm as I am ready to sell them.

I paid 200 each for them or 400 for the pair.


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June 29, 2017, 03:45:42 PM
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Anyone else experience this problem;

I have 3 Asus FE 1080ti on one board with some case fans to move the air around. Fan speed at 70%, cards at 80% power. Temps were 60-70 for The last 24hrs.. before adding the 3rd I had the first and third pci-e slots used and the cards were stable.

I wake up this morning (24hrs after installing the 3rd card) and the first one is running at 84 degrees.. I check the fans there all working, the fan on the gpu is working..

I turn off the rig (twice now) and the gpu wont come back online. I didn't have time to further investigate as I needed to go to work..

Thoughts ?

All of the stability issues i have ran into to date with GPU's dropping out like that lead back to overloading or weak power rail/bad connection for the sata power to the risers... found switching the cables out would fix it sometimes.. so i figured it was just a poor connection across the connectors... so i converted that rig over to hard wire for power going from the power supply to the powered risers, which actually benefited me because i can run the GPU further away now with the custom power cable length. What i did was go to homedepot, in the electrical isle they have these 8 wire screw in power boards for $0.89ea, that connect straight across... i used a molex tool to remove the connectors on the power supply, then un-crimped the pin off the wire and screwed it into the power board, then on the other side of the board i ran the wires to the power riser at the length i needed with some 4 wire cable i bought on a spool and soldered that end directly to the pins on the powered riser.. since doing this.. the system has been running flawless for 2 weeks now without any gpu drop out issues... when i initially set it up i found out the power supply on that system shares 2 different sata power pigtails off the same power rail on the PSU, so more than 2 gpu's was 50/50 chance of working.. and 4 was dropping in and out constantly.. i noticed this and switched the 2nd pair of 2 gpu's to another pigtail coming off a different rail and all 4 worked on first bootup... so the one rail has 5 total sata power connectors off it, but it would only support 2 GPU's...

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June 29, 2017, 04:23:21 PM
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Has anyone figured out a way to connect the new ETHminer to something like zpool or MHP? i looked into it and it seems to be only usable on dwarfpool, nicehash, and like 1 other based on the code....

- GPUs Mining : 128 (Updated 3/7/18) // CPUs Mining : 19 (Updated 2/23/18)
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June 29, 2017, 04:27:38 PM
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I am going to add fans to the frame to blow fresh air into it. It is running about 65C+. I hope to bring it down to 60C. I prefer to keep my rigs modular so I can remove them from the racks and repair them.

see if a drop from 65 to 60  tdp  lowers hash a lot.

if you are at 2800 and drop to 2700 sol  but heat is good.

that may be better then adding fans to stay at 2800 sol


It should work. Got my 1060s at 60 and increased MC by 900. They run cool & quiet. The hash stayed the same on claymore 9.5 but increased on genoil.

Have 3 Zotac 1060 AMP Edition arriving tomorrow. That will finish my 5 x 1060 build. After that, like many others, I'm not building or buying anything more for awhile.
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June 29, 2017, 04:28:40 PM
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Okay  hows is this for a problem?

I am supposed to sell 2 diamond rx 480 8gb gpus
they are now going for an insane price from the builder  over 600 usd.
http://www.diamondmultimediastore.com/diamond-video-graphic-cards/radeon-rx400-series


I made a promise to sell them  in my pm's   and of course  I have had 48 pages of pm's since I purchased them in march.

so if you read this please resend the pm as I am ready to sell them.

I paid 200 each for them or 400 for the pair.



Even if we didn't pm you the first time.. can we pm you now, haha!
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June 29, 2017, 05:23:51 PM
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I am going to add fans to the frame to blow fresh air into it. It is running about 65C+. I hope to bring it down to 60C. I prefer to keep my rigs modular so I can remove them from the racks and repair them.


see if a drop from 65 to 60  tdp  lowers hash a lot.

if you are at 2800 and drop to 2700 sol  but heat is good.

that may be better then adding fans to stay at 2800 sol















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https://new.nicehash.com/miner/16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr


Dropping TDP to 60% resulted lower Sol from 700 to 640-650. Temp drop -1 to -2C. Core speed dropped to 1650Mhz.
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I am going to add fans to the frame to blow fresh air into it. It is running about 65C+. I hope to bring it down to 60C. I prefer to keep my rigs modular so I can remove them from the racks and repair them.

My current 1080ti FE/Ref types 2-3 GPU rigs stays cool with a blower to suck the air out faster. The non-FE cards, maybe a bit tricky because the only effective way for my case is to hang them with hooks (heat goes up) with ample spacing.

Be careful when you select which fans to use because anything below 3000rpm "typhoon class" type fans are not going to make the cut - the Scythe fan that I am using now is a 3000rpm server rated fan (from the Antminer S7 days). Very good and powerful fans. There are better ones like Noctua, Delta, Nidec, etc. but more expensive.
https://www.amazon.com/Scythe-DFS123812H-3000-Ultra-Kaze-120mm/dp/B001JKNMBE/ref=lp_2530362011_1_3?srs=2530362011&ie=UTF8&qid=1498738110&sr=8-3

The "before" pix below.... all the 2-3 GPU rigs will be consolidated to 3/4/5 x GPU rigs.... when I am done with that project - will post "after" pix.

The Zotaz 1070 Minis are attached to this rig because waiting for the Asus Prime Z270A motherboard for 7+2 x GPU. While waiting ... they work hard along side the Zotac 1080ti FE

Disclaimer: During the PSU supply crunch, I got a few "Ethereum PSU" from China.... until I get the EVGA-G3's and server PSUs.
So far so good but I am not very comfortable with the "poor man's PSU" so I use them when only needed and did not beyond 50% of the alleged watts rating. It however got all the cables, connectors required up to 6 x GPUs (6/8pins) or 3 x GPU (2x8pins) -- its the real deal.... but I don't recommend it unless you don't have any other choice.

https://i.imgur.com/vZOX8Mv.png?2

Are those Great Wall PSU? How are the Minis doing? I order a number of 1080 Ti Minis. The Minis price is irresistible.
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June 29, 2017, 06:33:44 PM
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What software do you guys use for tuning a 7x nvidia GPU system? I'm having a lot of trouble with everything it seems. Precision XOC worked at first but now I can't get all GPU to copy the change I make to one.
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June 29, 2017, 07:40:36 PM
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I am going to add fans to the frame to blow fresh air into it. It is running about 65C+. I hope to bring it down to 60C. I prefer to keep my rigs modular so I can remove them from the racks and repair them.

My current 1080ti FE/Ref types 2-3 GPU rigs stays cool with a blower to suck the air out faster. The non-FE cards, maybe a bit tricky because the only effective way for my case is to hang them with hooks (heat goes up) with ample spacing.

Be careful when you select which fans to use because anything below 3000rpm "typhoon class" type fans are not going to make the cut - the Scythe fan that I am using now is a 3000rpm server rated fan (from the Antminer S7 days). Very good and powerful fans. There are better ones like Noctua, Delta, Nidec, etc. but more expensive.
https://www.amazon.com/Scythe-DFS123812H-3000-Ultra-Kaze-120mm/dp/B001JKNMBE/ref=lp_2530362011_1_3?srs=2530362011&ie=UTF8&qid=1498738110&sr=8-3

The "before" pix below.... all the 2-3 GPU rigs will be consolidated to 3/4/5 x GPU rigs.... when I am done with that project - will post "after" pix.

The Zotaz 1070 Minis are attached to this rig because waiting for the Asus Prime Z270A motherboard for 7+2 x GPU. While waiting ... they work hard along side the Zotac 1080ti FE

Disclaimer: During the PSU supply crunch, I got a few "Ethereum PSU" from China.... until I get the EVGA-G3's and server PSUs.
So far so good but I am not very comfortable with the "poor man's PSU" so I use them when only needed and did not beyond 50% of the alleged watts rating. It however got all the cables, connectors required up to 6 x GPUs (6/8pins) or 3 x GPU (2x8pins) -- its the real deal.... but I don't recommend it unless you don't have any other choice.



Are those Great Wall PSU? How are the Minis doing? I order a number of 1080 Ti Minis. The Minis price is irresistible.

All 28 x Zotac 1070 Minis are all mining ETH, currently still using Claymore using nvOC and also tested smOS Nvidia.
Once consolidated to the 7+2 rig I have in mind with Asus Prime Z270, cant wait to test them on Genoil...

My contacts in China recommended me these PSUs - they claimed that it better than Great Wall... but I have my reservations because I have mostly EVGAs 1000/1300/1600w and very happy with them. But since I didn't want my 1080tis to sit idle while waiting for G3s and server PSUs... got a few of them and run it at 50-60% to be on safe side.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/YUNHUI-ETH-ETC-ZCASH-MINER-Gold-POWER-1800W-ETH-miner-power-supply-for-R9-380-RX/32812977559.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.0.2jYr6d

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/The-Ethereum-miners-power-supply-1600W-12V-128A-output-Including-22PCES-2P-4P-6P-8P-24P/32801102199.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.0.HYPGoB


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June 29, 2017, 07:52:27 PM
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Okay  hows is this for a problem?

I am supposed to sell 2 diamond rx 480 8gb gpus
they are now going for an insane price from the builder  over 600 usd.
http://www.diamondmultimediastore.com/diamond-video-graphic-cards/radeon-rx400-series


I made a promise to sell them  in my pm's   and of course  I have had 48 pages of pm's since I purchased them in march.

so if you read this please resend the pm as I am ready to sell them.

I paid 200 each for them or 400 for the pair.



I told ya a while ago that I would take the diamonds when ya sold them, but we made no deal or agreement for them at the time so not sure if you are thinking of that conversation or someone else.
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Disclaimer: During the PSU supply crunch, I got a few "Ethereum PSU" from China.... until I get the EVGA-G3's and server PSUs.
So far so good but I am not very comfortable with the "poor man's PSU" so I use them when only needed and did not beyond 50% of the alleged watts rating. It however got all the cables, connectors required up to 6 x GPUs (6/8pins) or 3 x GPU (2x8pins) -- its the real deal.... but I don't recommend it unless you don't have any other choice.


 Form factor on those "1800 watt" PS is WAY too small to be a legit 1800 watt - and I also find the "90 Plus" certification an issue, as there is no such certification.
 They look suspiciously like the 1100 watt PS I have in some of my Innosilicon A2 units.
 I'm not sure I'd trust them for *1* kilowatt 24/7.

 The "1600 watt" PS are big enough they MIGHT be legit.




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June 29, 2017, 10:59:26 PM
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Got my first riser in the mail today from Ali express.  I did some research to  make sure I got good ones and the ones I got were exactly as per the pictures (high quality soldering etc)  I just went with the free shipping and bought one each from about 6 different places, and one magically showed up  in just 6 days!

I was so excited in instantly shut down my three rigs and swapped out all the power supplies as I got a new 1000W PSU and set everything back up.

I then installed the riser into my old single card PC and with an old 1GB 6590 AMD card just to test it.  I did plan to leave it going overnight as testing but that card cant mine anyways so I through caution to the wind and just slapped in my EVGA 1080 ti SC black and set it to mining.

I have it outside the case just on a bench.

Works perfectly.  This is a 7+ year old motherboard (the cpu is right before core duos) with one big PCI-e slot and 3 mini ones.  So this super old hardware is fine.  Though I think I may run into issues with the CPU if I add more cards or not?  But I have 3 other better CPU old motherboards sitting around anyways.   So I am pretty happy my old useless gear now has a use and I dont have to buy motherboards.

Now the cool thing about the riser is how bloody cold it runs.  SO cold.   I have the exact same card in my main gaming PC (which is openwith all the sides off) along side my Auros but they are very far apart.

At 65 TPD for the one in the case, I run the fan at 55% and it sits around 55C.   The one on the riser sits at 50C and the fan is only at 35%.  I mean I could set it to 25% and it would be fine that was amazing (it is winter here btw).

So I now cant wait for the rest of my risers to arrive.
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Got my first riser in the mail today from Ali express.  I did some research to  make sure I got good ones and the ones I got were exactly as per the pictures (high quality soldering etc)  I just went with the free shipping and bought one each from about 6 different places, and one magically showed up  in just 6 days!

I was so excited in instantly shut down my three rigs and swapped out all the power supplies as I got a new 1000W PSU and set everything back up.

I then installed the riser into my old single card PC and with an old 1GB 6590 AMD card just to test it.  I did plan to leave it going overnight as testing but that card cant mine anyways so I through caution to the wind and just slapped in my EVGA 1080 ti SC black and set it to mining.

I have it outside the case just on a bench.

Works perfectly.  This is a 7+ year old motherboard (the cpu is right before core duos) with one big PCI-e slot and 3 mini ones.  So this super old hardware is fine.  Though I think I may run into issues with the CPU if I add more cards or not?  But I have 3 other better CPU old motherboards sitting around anyways.   So I am pretty happy my old useless gear now has a use and I dont have to buy motherboards.

Now the cool thing about the riser is how bloody cold it runs.  SO cold.   I have the exact same card in my main gaming PC (which is openwith all the sides off) along side my Auros but they are very far apart.

At 65 TPD for the one in the case, I run the fan at 55% and it sits around 55C.   The one on the riser sits at 50C and the fan is only at 35%.  I mean I could set it to 25% and it would be fine that was amazing (it is winter here btw).

So I now cant wait for the rest of my risers to arrive.

my old gear is still alive and kicking. bought as surplus in late 2013,  4x pcie slots too...

rgarding the cpu, it might affect hashrate, depends on mining software, when eth miner still uses hdd for DAG, my core2duo and pentium 4 are hashing lower than my core2quads..until i upgrade them to core2quads....so if you have time and a little bit of extra money you can hunt/scavenge for an upgrade of the cpu..

if i'm not mistaken most of the old gear with 4x pcie, specially the ones with crossfire tech are the top of the line back then and they are heavy duty...
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Got my first riser in the mail today from Ali express.  I did some research to  make sure I got good ones and the ones I got were exactly as per the pictures (high quality soldering etc)  I just went with the free shipping and bought one each from about 6 different places, and one magically showed up  in just 6 days!

I was so excited in instantly shut down my three rigs and swapped out all the power supplies as I got a new 1000W PSU and set everything back up.

I then installed the riser into my old single card PC and with an old 1GB 6590 AMD card just to test it.  I did plan to leave it going overnight as testing but that card cant mine anyways so I through caution to the wind and just slapped in my EVGA 1080 ti SC black and set it to mining.

I have it outside the case just on a bench.

Works perfectly.  This is a 7+ year old motherboard (the cpu is right before core duos) with one big PCI-e slot and 3 mini ones.  So this super old hardware is fine.  Though I think I may run into issues with the CPU if I add more cards or not?  But I have 3 other better CPU old motherboards sitting around anyways.   So I am pretty happy my old useless gear now has a use and I dont have to buy motherboards.

Now the cool thing about the riser is how bloody cold it runs.  SO cold.   I have the exact same card in my main gaming PC (which is openwith all the sides off) along side my Auros but they are very far apart.

At 65 TPD for the one in the case, I run the fan at 55% and it sits around 55C.   The one on the riser sits at 50C and the fan is only at 35%.  I mean I could set it to 25% and it would be fine that was amazing (it is winter here btw).

So I now cant wait for the rest of my risers to arrive.

my old gear is still alive and kicking. bought as surplus in late 2013,  4x pcie slots too...

rgarding the cpu, it might affect hashrate, depends on mining software, when eth miner still uses hdd for DAG, my core2duo and pentium 4 are hashing lower than my core2quads..until i upgrade them to core2quads....so if you have time and a little bit of extra money you can hunt/scavenge for an upgrade of the cpu..

if i'm not mistaken most of the old gear with 4x pcie, specially the ones with crossfire tech are the top of the line back then and they are heavy duty...

I only have 2 cards in that rig and I know what they should do and they are doing it.  As my other gear gets here that rig will disappear.  I have a handful of i5 cpu's and motherboards i only used this one because it was already a full system I'd never pulled any parts out of.  Thanks for the tip.
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I've learned quite a bit from this thread, so may be someone with experience can help me with this particular question.

I'm in US and I'm looking for a smart plug with wifi that works at 220V in US.

I was using a regular smart wifi plug from tplink for my 110V line, but I've recently moved to 220V 30 amp circuit, I'm using a PDU that outputs 220V and I can't find a smart plug that would monitor energy use and lets me power cycle remotely. Any recommendations?


have you considered a cheaper solution like SRR (SimpleRigResetter) @ https://simplemining.net, if you have many rigs or running a farm this SRR makes a lot of sense vs a PDU.

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Disclaimer: During the PSU supply crunch, I got a few "Ethereum PSU" from China.... until I get the EVGA-G3's and server PSUs.
So far so good but I am not very comfortable with the "poor man's PSU" so I use them when only needed and did not beyond 50% of the alleged watts rating. It however got all the cables, connectors required up to 6 x GPUs (6/8pins) or 3 x GPU (2x8pins) -- its the real deal.... but I don't recommend it unless you don't have any other choice.


 Form factor on those "1800 watt" PS is WAY too small to be a legit 1800 watt - and I also find the "90 Plus" certification an issue, as there is no such certification.
 They look suspiciously like the 1100 watt PS I have in some of my Innosilicon A2 units.
 I'm not sure I'd trust them for *1* kilowatt 24/7.

 The "1600 watt" PS are big enough they MIGHT be legit.


I have 4 of this Ethreum PSU running 24x7 for 2 weeks now, isolated in a different rack with its own 20amp circuits... running 500w to 700w at max and never beyond that. Fingers crossed -- all is well. They will be soon replaced by 94% Platinum server PSUs with pico, bb kit.

Compared to the EVGA-G2-1600w, its almost similar in size... but top rated PSUs like EVGAs have very high quality parts, sturdy build, 10-Year-Warranty, etc.....  I have 12 of them in my farm 24x7 since Jan 2016 and all are still alive even today. The fat C19 power cord itself is an amazing piece of piece of engineering.

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June 30, 2017, 07:55:40 AM
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Has anyone figured out a way to connect the new ETHminer to something like zpool or MHP? i looked into it and it seems to be only usable on dwarfpool, nicehash, and like 1 other based on the code....

There is a switch -sc which has different stratum protocols, here's the help:

-SP, --stratum-protocol <n> Choose which stratum protocol to use:
    0: official stratum spec: ethpool, ethermine, coinotron, mph, nanopool (default)
    1: eth-proxy compatible: dwarfpool, f2pool, nanopool
    2: EthereumStratum/1.0.0: nicehash

I'd suggest trying one of the others if the default isn't working. No idea if this will work or not because I'm using it ok with ethermine.org. Only one downside is it's not reporting hashrate correctly. Still get shares but missing a line on the graph.
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June 30, 2017, 01:33:05 PM
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I've learned quite a bit from this thread, so may be someone with experience can help me with this particular question.

I'm in US and I'm looking for a smart plug with wifi that works at 220V in US.

I was using a regular smart wifi plug from tplink for my 110V line, but I've recently moved to 220V 30 amp circuit, I'm using a PDU that outputs 220V and I can't find a smart plug that would monitor energy use and lets me power cycle remotely. Any recommendations?


have you considered a cheaper solution like SRR (SimpleRigResetter) @ https://simplemining.net, if you have many rigs or running a farm this SRR makes a lot of sense vs a PDU.

A 30 amp pdu can do 24 amps at 220/240 about 5800 watts

Or around 6 x 950 watt rigs.  If it has remote on off via Internet it is costly.  Most will not do individual plugs they will reset all the rigs.
Srr will do eight rigs and up to 40 rigs automatic.

And only the rigs needed.

I have a pdu and do not use a lot of rigs.

But if I expand I will be getting srr

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June 30, 2017, 01:46:43 PM
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My problem from yesterday happened again..
It was fine last night into this morning and when I got to work and checked the first card was 84 while cards 2 and 3 were mid to low 60s..
So I dropped the power from 80 to 70 and it dropped back to mid 60s.. I checked the power usage and prior to me dropping it, the card was running at 100%! Afterburn was set to 80% and the other cards were 80..

Anyone have any idea why the card would run at 100 when it was set to 80? Adjusting the setting to 70 woke it up.. but still..
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