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June 02, 2023, 03:21:14 PM
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Real Madrid are rumored to be interested in signing Kai Havertz from Chelsea, if I'm not mistaken this result came out after the board, Florentino Perez and Ancelotti held a closed meeting. Maybe this is in anticipation if later Real Madrid fail to get Harry Kane from Spurs. We know that yesterday there were rumors that said Benzema would go to the Saudi league to accept an offer of 100 million euros per season, but at the same time, Benzema dismissed this news through an awards ceremony at Marca. It looks like Real Madrid will try to keep signing Kai Havertz no matter what as substitute for Benzema if they still fail to get Harry Kane.
I expected Real Madrid to be looking at adding to their forward line this summer, with an acknowledged need for a back-up forward and a replacement for the Marcos Asension and other lacking positions. As for now we don’t know if Benzema stays or lives but depending on how Benzema proceeds with his future, I think Real Madrid will also need to enter the market to bring in a star forward too. Honestly I don’t feel Kai Havertz is quality enough to play for this Real Madrid team. Although his technical ability would fit well, and he is versatile enough to occupy different positions in the Real Madrid attack., but I think Real Madrid should go for proper replacements and a consistent forward.
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June 02, 2023, 03:31:00 PM
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Real Madrid are rumored to be interested in signing Kai Havertz from Chelsea, if I'm not mistaken this result came out after the board, Florentino Perez and Ancelotti held a closed meeting. Maybe this is in anticipation if later Real Madrid fail to get Harry Kane from Spurs. We know that yesterday there were rumors that said Benzema would go to the Saudi league to accept an offer of 100 million euros per season, but at the same time, Benzema dismissed this news through an awards ceremony at Marca. It looks like Real Madrid will try to keep signing Kai Havertz no matter what as substitute for Benzema if they still fail to get Harry Kane.
I don't understand to Madrid that big team just like them doesn't have backup plan because they can lost Benzema everytime but they don't have any target player who equal to Benzema and now after the rumour Benzema will left and goes to Arabian team Real Madrid looks panic and attempts to looking for new striker and i couldn't understand too what's on Fiorentino Perez's mind regarding rumors of his interest in  Kai Havertz because we all know this player was performing poor with Chelsea last season and 7 goals from 35 matches is not reflected he is decent player for Madrid and even Pochettino has not included him in his future plans with Chelsea and although i am not Madrid fans but hopefully this is only remains rumour because Madrid should be gets the players whose quality is far above that of Havertz

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June 02, 2023, 03:59:24 PM
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In another case, manchester united is still trying to negotiate with chelsea. MU is now trynig to offer meguire + fresh money to get mason mount from chelsea. It will be so stupid if chelsea will accept such offer.  I will support it if it will be rashford + money.
Chelsea only wants to let Mount go for 80 million while Manchester United have little objection to that price but this will be a negotiation and it is possible that if Erik Ten Hag wants Mason Mount then they will have to spend money without an offer on the player Maguire.

What I know is that Rashford has become Erik Ten Hag's main squad in the long term, it is impossible for him to just let Rashford go because he is a player that Man United can rely on.

With Harry Maguire they let him go and decide what happens next because he is no longer a priority because of the many blunders that have occurred.


I have heard that if real madrid is trying again to review its interest to the kai havertz. Madrid was interested to sign him a few years ago but it's not yet confirmed this time.
Kai Havertz and Firmino were targets this summer, this is closer now but Firmino on a free transfer would make it easier for Real Madrid to get him.

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June 02, 2023, 04:11:03 PM
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Real Madrid are rumored to be interested in signing Kai Havertz from Chelsea, if I'm not mistaken this result came out after the board, Florentino Perez and Ancelotti held a closed meeting. Maybe this is in anticipation if later Real Madrid fail to get Harry Kane from Spurs. We know that yesterday there were rumors that said Benzema would go to the Saudi league to accept an offer of 100 million euros per season, but at the same time, Benzema dismissed this news through an awards ceremony at Marca. It looks like Real Madrid will try to keep signing Kai Havertz no matter what as substitute for Benzema if they still fail to get Harry Kane.

Guys this makes me remember the Hazard deal and Havertz is far away from the form that Hazard had back at the time at Chelsea when Real Madrid bought him. When even Hazard can't make his way in Real Madrid and become a key player, how would Havertz do it then and why does Real Madrid think that he could be a good a ddition to the squad? It doesn't fit every single time when a player changes clubs, but in Hazard's case I was quite surprised because his quality was so good he was destined to become a world's best player at Real Madrid. He ended up sitting on the bench most of the time. I would anticipate the same happens to Havertz.

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June 02, 2023, 04:42:28 PM
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Granit Xhaka is expected to leave Arsenal this season despite his fine form this season.He played a pivotal role in Arsenal's second place finish this season,Everyone knew the story of Xhaka,about how he threw down the Arsenal  jersey,which made almost all the Arsenal's legend hate him so much and wanted him to leave the club,but after a face to face talk with the coach,he decided to make a u-turn,and turn a new leave .Now nobody wants him to go,because he had made a long time sacrifice to the club.
For real there have been plenty of rocky years along the way, Xhaka has come full circle to being a cult hero at the club once again. He’s been a key part of the team, the success of the team and I’m so happy everybody is appreciating what he’s done for the team since he joined. He’s wanted to leave since Arteta needed in for some seasons and I think it is the right time to find another path. Now there have been recent links with a move to Bayer Leverkusen and the supporters and Xhaka appeared to share a moment of farewell.
Arsenal must reconsider if they want to let go of this one player, because he is a player who has contributed to Arsenal's appearance. Arteta still needs a lot of players to become his mainstay this season, and he only needs a few additional players to make the team even more solid. Many players are showing good performances, especially when they are still young, so Arsenal must be good at keeping their players from being attracted to other teams.

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June 02, 2023, 04:46:29 PM
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With Harry Maguire they let him go and decide what happens next because he is no longer a priority because of the many blunders that have occurred.
Harry Maguire has to leave the club at the end of this season, it is obvious that he has no place in the team, and Erik ten hag doesn't have him in any of his plans, he should look to move to a smaller club where he can play much more frequently and maybe start playing a little bit better. I am surprised Harry Maguire keeps on getting called up to the England squad, i guess Gareth Southgate is happy with how he plays for England. Grin

Having said that, in another news Rafael Leao has signed a new contract with AC Milan, thus he'd be in the club until 2028, except something happens along the way and he has to leave, this decision would surely make the AC Milan ultras happy, there were quite a lot of big clubs monitoring Rafeal Leao's situation, but he has made his mind up to stay.
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June 02, 2023, 05:15:14 PM
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If Messi really decides to leave PSG, then Xavi will be able to convince him return to Barcelona, I remember how he did this with other players who are now in the team. But you are right, the team still has financial problems and this may be a reason for Messi not to return to Barcelona, although he really likes this city, his friends and family are there, and I am sure that his family also wants to return home.

Xavi wants to hire Messi and since he has the experience of working with each other, I think Messi can have much better days if he comes back to Barcelona where he started shining.
Lionel Messi has experience playing for Barcelona for a long time under the leadership of Xavi. Once Messi Xavi had a great time for Barcelona in La Liga and now Xavi is the current coach of Barcelona. If everything goes well, then Messi will now have the chance to play under the leadership that Messi has played under. 

If Lionel Messi returns to Barcelona, he will have a coach like a friend as well as his family, which will make him much stronger mentally. According to Xavi, he will take whatever steps are necessary to bring Messi back to Barcelona, but he wants Messi back at any cost. Hopefully the salary issue between Messi and Barcelona authorities will be resolved and Messi will return to Barcelona.

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June 02, 2023, 05:42:17 PM
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If Messi really decides to leave PSG, then Xavi will be able to convince him return to Barcelona, I remember how he did this with other players who are now in the team. But you are right, the team still has financial problems and this may be a reason for Messi not to return to Barcelona, although he really likes this city, his friends and family are there, and I am sure that his family also wants to return home.

This is even beyond the financial burden that the club will face. Will Messi be able to deliver as well as he has in the past if he returns to Barcelona? He's becoming older by the day, and his physical strength will steadily deteriorate, resulting in poor performance on the field.

By bringing Messi back now, I'm sure the club and the players will be reliant on him, and if he falls short of their expectations, the club will be devastated. In my opinion, he has served and contributed enough to the club; it is now time to go on and not return to his former team, not even out of pity.

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June 02, 2023, 05:49:47 PM
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With Harry Maguire they let him go and decide what happens next because he is no longer a priority because of the many blunders that have occurred.
Harry Maguire has to leave the club at the end of this season, it is obvious that he has no place in the team, and Erik ten hag doesn't have him in any of his plans, he should look to move to a smaller club where he can play much more frequently and maybe start playing a little bit better. I am surprised Harry Maguire keeps on getting called up to the England squad, i guess Gareth Southgate is happy with how he plays for England. Grin

Having said that, in another news Rafael Leao has signed a new contract with AC Milan, thus he'd be in the club until 2028, except something happens along the way and he has to leave, this decision would surely make the AC Milan ultras happy, there were quite a lot of big clubs monitoring Rafeal Leao's situation, but he has made his mind up to stay.
I think Manchester United also don't need Harry Maguire, who performed very badly several times, because Harry Maguire's carelessness led to Manchester United's defeat.
Kim Min-Jae will be better for me when he replaces Maguiere with experience and good performance.
But I have little doubt that if Maguire moves to the England national team it will not turn out to be stronger.

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June 02, 2023, 05:53:51 PM
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With Harry Maguire they let him go and decide what happens next because he is no longer a priority because of the many blunders that have occurred.
Harry Maguire has to leave the club at the end of this season, it is obvious that he has no place in the team, and Erik ten hag doesn't have him in any of his plans, he should look to move to a smaller club where he can play much more frequently and maybe start playing a little bit better. I am surprised Harry Maguire keeps on getting called up to the England squad, i guess Gareth Southgate is happy with how he plays for England. Grin

Having said that, in another news Rafael Leao has signed a new contract with AC Milan, thus he'd be in the club until 2028, except something happens along the way and he has to leave, this decision would surely make the AC Milan ultras happy, there were quite a lot of big clubs monitoring Rafeal Leao's situation, but he has made his mind up to stay.
If he wants to play more then of course he has to move soon because now Erik Ten Hag already knows that Maguire is no longer needed in the squad for next season, his performance is too bad and doesn't match what he bought expensively so this doesn't meet the management's expectations and coach, but I see Maguire hasn't announced his decision yet.

I always doubted that Gareth Southgate even had a better player than him, but I don't know why he always gets called up even though it's clear he often makes mistakes in his defense.

Rafael Leao and Milan already have €175m clauses. Who dares to pay that clause then another team deserves the Portuguese player, I don't think halfway through it something will happen to him he will last long enough with his clause.

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June 02, 2023, 06:06:39 PM
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Real Madrid are rumored to be interested in signing Kai Havertz from Chelsea, if I'm not mistaken this result came out after the board, Florentino Perez and Ancelotti held a closed meeting. Maybe this is in anticipation if later Real Madrid fail to get Harry Kane from Spurs. We know that yesterday there were rumors that said Benzema would go to the Saudi league to accept an offer of 100 million euros per season, but at the same time, Benzema dismissed this news through an awards ceremony at Marca. It looks like Real Madrid will try to keep signing Kai Havertz no matter what as substitute for Benzema if they still fail to get Harry Kane.
This is the best solution if Real Madrid cannot sign Harry Kane, now Real Madrid is still looking for a way to bring Harry Kane to join next summer. But the problem is that the price set by Spurs for the ferocious bomber is too expensive, namely 115 million euros. For a player who is 29 years old and whose contract will expire in a year, this price is considered very expensive. But when compared to Kane's performance, this price is still reasonable. But it looks like this offer will not happen because Real Madrid now has a solution, namely by bringing in Havertz as a candidate to replace Benzema. Havertz is said to be a multi-position player because he is able to play in three positions. Madrid is reportedly very interested in signing him because of his ability, and he will be able to complement the team next season. Regardless of whether or not Benzema leaves, in my opinion, there is nothing wrong if Real Madrid makes a permanent decision to sign Havertz, if this decision can make the team's performance even stronger next season why not. I read in the news that if Real Madrid could sign him then this would be the perfect signing for Real Madrid.
It is true that the transfer fee wanted by Spurs is unreasonable, one of the reasons why the price is so high is that Real Madrid are willing to buy it. But with very consistent performance in every season and always in competition for the golden boot award, it seems that this price is still quite reasonable.

Kai Havertz is indeed a versatile player. He can fill in for AMF, SS and CF, therefore Ancelotti will definitely need a player with many of these positions. If Kai Havertz is willing to join Real Madrid, of course that will also be good in terms of his future career, we know that even at Chelsea it is not certain that he will be a regular choice for Pochettino.

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June 02, 2023, 07:12:01 PM
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If Messi returns to Barcelona again, Messi will have that time back. The PSG club has no players in support of Messi recently and it is never possible to play in a club with the fans and against him. If Lionel Messi goes back to Barcelona, he will go back to his country and that country will keep his word. There should be no shortage of Messi supporters. Barcelona are showing a lot of interest in signing Messi but they are financially strapped so if they really want to sign Messi they can let go of a few players. Because when the best time of his career comes, Messi will definitely not want any problems with salary. Al hilal could be a good opportunity for Messi considering the salary.

If Messi really decides to leave PSG, then Xavi will be able to convince him return to Barcelona, I remember how he did this with other players who are now in the team. But you are right, the team still has financial problems and this may be a reason for Messi not to return to Barcelona, although he really likes this city, his friends and family are there, and I am sure that his family also wants to return home.
Everything is still too complex at the moment for Messi and Barcelona because in this case imposing their will is actually not a good thing to do in my opinion.
Unless they have an ace card that can secure their financial condition in a short time, but things like that are clearly difficult for them.
Currently they are still over the salaries of the players currently in Barcelona. Gavi's problems have not yet been resolved because the previous new contract was cancelled, so they still have a lot to deal with, which makes it even more difficult for Messi's problems to be at Camp Nou.

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June 02, 2023, 07:15:19 PM
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Having said that, in another news Rafael Leao has signed a new contract with AC Milan, thus he'd be in the club until 2028, except something happens along the way and he has to leave, this decision would surely make the AC Milan ultras happy, there were quite a lot of big clubs monitoring Rafeal Leao's situation, but he has made his mind up to stay.

€5m/year + add-ons is a bit low for someone with his talents; he could easily earn twice as much elsewhere, but he chose to stay in Milan, which tells a lot about his loyalty.

His release clause is now €175 million, which means he'll be off the market for at least another three years.



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June 02, 2023, 07:20:51 PM
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This is even beyond the financial burden that the club will face. Will Messi be able to deliver as well as he has in the past if he returns to Barcelona? He's becoming older by the day, and his physical strength will steadily deteriorate, resulting in poor performance on the field.
By bringing Messi back now, I'm sure the club and the players will be reliant on him, and if he falls short of their expectations, the club will be devastated. In my opinion, he has served and contributed enough to the club; it is now time to go on and not return to his former team, not even out of pity.

To be honest i am not really sure if the officials of FC Barcelona really want to bring Lionel Messi back to Barca. As you already said, he will turn 36 in a few weeks and he is definitely not in his prime anymore. I recently saw a few videos were it was obvious that in the last season he was still a great player, no doubt about that, but the time where it was pretty much impossible to take the ball away from him or to stop his dribblings seem to be over.
So to player a huge salary, which Lionel Messi would probably still demand, for a player that is not the same anymore is probably not really something that the officials of Barca are so keen to do. They should use this money otherwise and reduce their huge debts.
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June 02, 2023, 07:27:22 PM
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To be honest i am not really sure if the officials of FC Barcelona really want to bring Lionel Messi back to Barca. As you already said, he will turn 36 in a few weeks and he is definitely not in his prime anymore. I recently saw a few videos were it was obvious that in the last season he was still a great player, no doubt about that, but the time where it was pretty much impossible to take the ball away from him or to stop his dribblings seem to be over.
So to player a huge salary, which Lionel Messi would probably still demand, for a player that is not the same anymore is probably not really something that the officials of Barca are so keen to do. They should use this money otherwise and reduce their huge debts.

I would love to see how Messi will return to Barcelona and again drive it into debt, but unfortunately everyone understands the unrealisticity of this scenario. He literally has two real options: MLS and Saudi Arabia. In Europe, none of the clubs will pay him a salary corresponding to his status, simply because his game is already far from what the top clubs need.

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June 02, 2023, 07:31:37 PM
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Xavi wants to hire Messi and since he has the experience of working with each other, I think Messi can have much better days if he comes back to Barcelona where he started shining.
Lionel Messi has experience playing for Barcelona for a long time under the leadership of Xavi. Once Messi Xavi had a great time for Barcelona in La Liga and now Xavi is the current coach of Barcelona. If everything goes well, then Messi will now have the chance to play under the leadership that Messi has played under. 

If Lionel Messi returns to Barcelona, he will have a coach like a friend as well as his family, which will make him much stronger mentally. According to Xavi, he will take whatever steps are necessary to bring Messi back to Barcelona, but he wants Messi back at any cost. Hopefully the salary issue between Messi and Barcelona authorities will be resolved and Messi will return to Barcelona.

Regarding the salary issue, it seems that there has been talk going on between Messi and Barcelona. yes, that's the rumor I've read. unfortunately, I forgot the news media that reported it. referring to what Fabrizio Romano said in his tweet, Xavi: Leo Messi will decide his future next week. he has my 100% approval to join us "he knows we are ready to welcome him. nothing has changed, we have a chance. we want Leo here. let him decide, I am ready to put him in our system" said Mundo Deportivo.

Well, with what he tweeted, it looks like we will know Messi's decision after his last game with PSG. Messi could have preferred Al Hilal over Barcelona, ​​because the nominal salary offered is fantastic. or, maybe Messi chose to end his career with the club that made his name. So, we just have to wait.

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June 02, 2023, 07:59:03 PM
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Messi would definitely be welcomed, Xavi is his long term friend and they probably already talked about what they would do together and how he would play etc etc. Dude would still be a great contributor in that team, and probably fit the system like a glove as well. However, finances will not be handled, I keep telling people that it can't possibly happen, how could Barcelona afford to get Messi? I mean he is not going to go there to play for 1€ just because its his team, and not like the league would allow that neither. Dude will want a ton of money and they do not have rights to spend ton of money on him, it will be illegal and he will have to just pick another team that can afford him. I can totally see Saudi Arabia as more likely option.

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June 02, 2023, 08:07:11 PM
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https://twitter.com/ESPNFC/status/1664278154889027589

I just don't understand these news sources. One of them says that Benzema has decided to stay with Real Madrid for another season. But another one which is ESPN here says that he is about to leave the team in a month to join Al Ittihad side. There is still around a month for his contract with Real Madrid to expire though. He can take his time to think about his future.

I think there is no need for him to stay from now on while he has a big opportunity to make a great deal of more money. He has achieved everything he can with Real Madrid so far in my opinion. Now he can think of a different journey for himself.
This condition is suspected to be the result of the press release by Benzema because even though he said he would focus on his career at Madrid, so far there has not been any confirmation regarding the new contract that Madrid has given this player.
But indeed this will be seasoning until the end I think because indeed in my opinion with the current conditions anything can still happen between Benzema and Madrid.

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June 02, 2023, 08:39:58 PM
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https://twitter.com/ESPNFC/status/1664278154889027589

I just don't understand these news sources. One of them says that Benzema has decided to stay with Real Madrid for another season. But another one which is ESPN here says that he is about to leave the team in a month to join Al Ittihad side. There is still around a month for his contract with Real Madrid to expire though. He can take his time to think about his future.

I think there is no need for him to stay from now on while he has a big opportunity to make a great deal of more money. He has achieved everything he can with Real Madrid so far in my opinion. Now he can think of a different journey for himself.

I think now is the right time for Benzema to leave Real. He played in an all conquering team, they ruled Europe/ his trophy haul at Real is ridiculously good. He’s not getting any younger though, Real’s cycle has come to an end, they have many players past their best. They are far from the best team in Europe now. Look what Man City did to them.

I’m not sure about going to Saudi Arabia, seems a bit dangerous to me, a very different way of life too. The money is great though I guess.

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June 02, 2023, 08:58:23 PM
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If Messi really decides to leave PSG, then Xavi will be able to convince him return to Barcelona, I remember how he did this with other players who are now in the team. But you are right, the team still has financial problems and this may be a reason for Messi not to return to Barcelona, although he really likes this city, his friends and family are there, and I am sure that his family also wants to return home.

This is even beyond the financial burden that the club will face. Will Messi be able to deliver as well as he has in the past if he returns to Barcelona? He's becoming older by the day, and his physical strength will steadily deteriorate, resulting in poor performance on the field.

By bringing Messi back now, I'm sure the club and the players will be reliant on him, and if he falls short of their expectations, the club will be devastated. In my opinion, he has served and contributed enough to the club; it is now time to go on and not return to his former team, not even out of pity.
This is difficult because even if bringing Messi back to Barcelona will affect the conditions in which La Liga will be highlighted again, especially for Barcelona from a sponsorship point of view which allows for additions when Messi is there which can bring more profits than sales but indeed we also have to be aware of expenses. what they do will also be bigger and even it is not impossible that the profit will only be able to cover Messi's salary.
On the other hand, Barcelona must also be aware of this, the dependency will be very large because indeed he used to be the backbone of this club so indeed things like this cannot be changed but expectations are too high now.
Messi's age, as you can say right now, is not young anymore, which makes it certain that this factor will affect regardless of anything because this is indeed the natural enemy of a soccer athlete.

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