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July 02, 2023, 06:00:43 PM
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Are things getting out of hands with the way the Saudi side are recruiting players from all parts of Europe, I feel with time we won't be getting enough super stars in the UCL, UEL even the conference league and to top it all, in all domestic leagues. Last time this kind of thing happened was China league now we're seeing Saudi league trying to improve their league by getting the likes of Ronaldo and some other footballers, you name them.
Won't be surprised if Fabrizio announce that Mbappe has decided to join on of the clubs @ Saudi and negotiations are on going. This is the busiest transfer window so far, players are coming and going out.

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July 02, 2023, 06:02:00 PM
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I understand very well why Ten Hag didn't keep De Gea. because, De Gea is not the type of goalkeeper the coach wants. that's why Andre Onana is United's target to replace De Gea. ideally, Ten Hag wants to implement his system by building up attacks starting at the goalkeeper. after all, Onana had played with Ajax. so, Ten Hag knows this player very well. now the problem is, how United will bring him to Old Trafford. if the price tag for Inter is too high, United will be in a lot of trouble. after all, as Romano quotes. that no official bid has been made by Manchester United, but communications remain between the two clubs regarding Onana's agreement. so, let's wait.
Andre Onana has impressive performance last season with Inter Milan and success managed his team lead until final stage in Champion League, its not doubt about Andre Onana performance but Manchester United seems difficult reach agreement deal with transfer fee offer by Inter Milan. Due De Gea contract expiry on July 1, right now United's goals keeper have empty and as soon possible to reach deal if want sign Andre Onana or accept with De Gea clause without cut off his salary for contract extending.

Dilemma for Manchester United, deal with transfer fee offering by Inter Milan or has option for extending De Gea contract but need to reach deal soon because potential for De Gea leaving Manchester United as free agent for joining with other team.

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July 02, 2023, 06:05:18 PM
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Germany forward Kai Havertz, 24, has become Arsenal's highest-paid player on £17m a year after joining from London rivals Chelsea. Will Havertz justify such a high salary?

Then, Havertz had also been signed by Chelsea in 2020 as a potential "star" but he never delivered the quality of play that was expected. Could it be different at Arsenal?

The truth is Havertz was, for some reason very hidden from me, a player monitored by Arsenal from a very early age. Indeed he was a promising player from the youth ranks and many today call him a "phenomenon" but although I believe he is indeed a good player, I think Chelsea and Arsenal were wrong to spend so much money on him, that could be better used in another way.

Anyway... this was a signing that was already "loyal" for a long time, now we can only hope that Havertz actually shows results in his new home.

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July 02, 2023, 06:18:16 PM
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It isn't the same thing with Mbappe's situation. Ronaldo and Benzema have ended up with Saudi Arabian teams because they are very old now. They just wanted to have the final years of their careers by making tons of money for themselves to secure the future of their families. If those teams didn't pay insane amounts of money to them we wouldn't have seen any stars like these going there.

But when it comes to Mbappe he is a very young player now. He is one of the best players in the world right now. He would prefer to be a part of a winner team first of all. But still money is a very important factor for him of course. PSG aren't successful in the Champions League but they offered an unbelievable kind of contract to him.

I don't know Arsenal can or would like to spend hundreds of million euros to make a signing like this in the first place. Even if they do Mbappe wouldn't still choose Arsenal as long as Real Madrid make the same offer.
I agree that it is not the same thing, but I wouldn't be comfortable enough to say "never", I would say it would not be impossible but yes it is unlikely that part is true. I am expecting him to play in a different club one way or another but I am not expecting him to have something that is in the premier league.

Even though there are a lot of rumors of him being in premier league or have a lot of interest from clubs there, I still think that he will either stay at PSG (which looks more and more likely everyday) or he will leave for Madrid, those are the two only options in my mind. But that is odds, the odds are he will be in either of those clubs, but it doesn't make any other team impossible, it just makes it unlikely and would not say "never" in that sense.

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July 02, 2023, 06:26:28 PM
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I understand very well why Ten Hag didn't keep De Gea. because, De Gea is not the type of goalkeeper the coach wants. that's why Andre Onana is United's target to replace De Gea. ideally, Ten Hag wants to implement his system by building up attacks starting at the goalkeeper. after all, Onana had played with Ajax. so, Ten Hag knows this player very well. now the problem is, how United will bring him to Old Trafford. if the price tag for Inter is too high, United will be in a lot of trouble. after all, as Romano quotes. that no official bid has been made by Manchester United, but communications remain between the two clubs regarding Onana's agreement. so, let's wait.
Andre Onana has impressive performance last season with Inter Milan and success managed his team lead until final stage in Champion League, its not doubt about Andre Onana performance but Manchester United seems difficult reach agreement deal with transfer fee offer by Inter Milan. Due De Gea contract expiry on July 1, right now United's goals keeper have empty and as soon possible to reach deal if want sign Andre Onana or accept with De Gea clause without cut off his salary for contract extending.

Dilemma for Manchester United, deal with transfer fee offering by Inter Milan or has option for extending De Gea contract but need to reach deal soon because potential for De Gea leaving Manchester United as free agent for joining with other team.
Now 60 million for such a goalkeeper is practically a free purchase considering the prices in today's market.  The prices of players are crazy and when it seems easier to extend the contract or raise the salary by a couple of million for your player, the club suddenly takes and buys players for tens of millions.

The situation with De Gea is about the same, because for 12 years he kept the highest level of play, even when the team played badly and even if Manchester wants to buy a young goalkeeper, a player like De Gea can become a substitute, even with a better contract, he deserves. But apparently it's easier for the club to let De Hea go and try their luck with the purchase of Onana for 60 million.

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July 02, 2023, 06:31:29 PM
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Of course Arsenal have high hopes for him, this time Arsenal are trying to make a big bet on Kai Havertz, they hope that his arrival can provide great benefits for the team. Arteta will certainly support Kai Havertz to become one of the important players in his squad, but if other players are not friendly with the salary Kai Havertz receives it will cause new problems in the Arsenal squad.
Before a player agrees to join a club, there is a negotiation process involved and if the player has a manager that can get him a good deal, they get a good deal. Other players should not concentrate on what other players in the team earn but should be more focused on improving their quality and their importance to the team, so that they can negotiate a better deal at their contract renewal or move to another club that will be able to pay them the amount they wish to earn.

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July 02, 2023, 06:59:01 PM
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There are rumors that De Gea has previously agreed to a contract extension with a salary cut, but Man United was reluctant to sign the contract and provided a revised contract extension with a more significant pay cut clause. I think it was the significant salary reduction (revised contract) that caused De Gea to choose to leave Man United.

Losing De Gea could be a big problem if Man United cannot find a suitable replacement for his position. Besides Onana, Man United also seems to be interested in Justin Bijlow, goalkeeper of Feyenoord.
De Gea performance dropped and he was responsible for the loss of many games in the previous season along with Harry Maguire. I wouldn't call it a big loss since they could find a better goalkeeper elsewhere.

De Gea is an important player for Manchester United and he earned many achievements with this team, however, as De Gea is getting older his performance is decreasing over time but I was expecting to see more respect from Manchester United for this player.
Since Ten Hag is more interested in hiring Onana. I think in the next season we are going to see Onana playing for this team.

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July 02, 2023, 07:09:46 PM
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De Gea is an important player for Manchester United and he earned many achievements with this team, however, as De Gea is getting older his performance is decreasing over time but I was expecting to see more respect from Manchester United for this player.
Since Ten Hag is more interested in hiring Onana. I think in the next season we are going to see Onana playing for this team.

Rumor has it that Ten Hag got his eye on another Goalkeeper because Onana was too expensive. and United are no longer interested in negotiating if Inter doesn't want to lower their price.
due to De Gea's declining performance, Ten Hag is now anticipating replacing him early. Even though last season De Gea still got many opportunities to play, Ten Hag doesn't want to take risks for a more competitive next season. De Gea should have been replaced.
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July 02, 2023, 07:10:22 PM
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De Gea is an important player for Manchester United

Was an important player and he won basically nothing in the past 5 years.

Onana is such a good young goalkeeper and a plus of it is that Ten Hag already coached him back on Ajax.

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July 02, 2023, 07:27:52 PM
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...but I was expecting to see more respect from Manchester United for this player.
When a player is not performing at his best the team has no option but to replace him, this is not a question of respect at this point.
De Gea's decline has been a thing for several years with bouts of stellar performances sandwiched between horrendous errors which has cost the team.

The saga with updated contracts after the players has agreed to them could have been avoided but he has gotten lots of respect from the team as it is.

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July 02, 2023, 07:48:31 PM
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Pulisic is already on the list of Olympique Lion as a potential transfer target and I guess nobody will be surprised when I tell you that Lyon is also owned by an investor from the US. Usually I think Pulisic wouldn't go to a club like Lyon as he probably has offers that are much better than that in terms of the quality of the team, but that US investor most likely pays a tempting salary and a vision for Olympique Lyon that might be convincing enough to get players like Pulisic.

Pulisic is a great player and Olympique Lyon having him on their side wil be a boost to the team. He’s a very good player but his career at Chelsea was not encouraging, many expectations from him to play or replace Hazard method of football but all to no avail. It’s better he joins a new team where he’ll get more playing time and at least show some improvement in his career now.


He couldn't get off the ground as much as he wanted to and as much as it was expected from him, but considering his talent I thought he is going to make it in Chelsea. I liked him as a player when he was still playing for Dortmund because he had this speed and also was brave enough to never shy away from 1 vs. 1 situations in the game. He took the dribblings and he was quick and agile. But when you look at Hazard when he peaked and then at Pulisic, there is still a significant gap between them. Hazard was brilliant when he had his best days.

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July 02, 2023, 07:54:29 PM
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Are things getting out of hands with the way the Saudi side are recruiting players from all parts of Europe, I feel with time we won't be getting enough super stars in the UCL, UEL even the conference league and to top it all, in all domestic leagues. Last time this kind of thing happened was China league now we're seeing Saudi league trying to improve their league by getting the likes of Ronaldo and some other footballers, you name them.
Won't be surprised if Fabrizio announce that Mbappe has decided to join on of the clubs @ Saudi and negotiations are on going. This is the busiest transfer window so far, players are coming and going out.

I think your worries are unwarranted and exaggerated quite a lot. It won't be like that with Mbappe for sure, everyone knows where he wants to play, he might even be able to move to Real this summer (small chance but it's there), other big name players maybe, but not all. If you get all the star players in this league, all the teams will be fully staffed with them, even so there will be a huge number of stars left in Europe. And not everyone wants to play in this league

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July 02, 2023, 07:54:38 PM
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Are things getting out of hands with the way the Saudi side are recruiting players from all parts of Europe, I feel with time we won't be getting enough super stars in the UCL, UEL even the conference league and to top it all, in all domestic leagues. Last time this kind of thing happened was China league now we're seeing Saudi league trying to improve their league by getting the likes of Ronaldo and some other footballers, you name them.
Won't be surprised if Fabrizio announce that Mbappe has decided to join on of the clubs @ Saudi and negotiations are on going. This is the busiest transfer window so far, players are coming and going out.

The effect of Saudi teams in the market was not something small, they spend huge amounts of money to hire the players they want, and since many other teams and players are not expecting to see this amount of money they ask for higher offers and this changed the market situation, which is hard for many other teams with a bad financial situation.

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July 02, 2023, 08:00:42 PM
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I don't really know if that bonus that Mbappe would receive is really that big of a problem for Paris Saint Germain. In the end they are owned by a sheikh and everything gets paid by him anyway so that bonus payment should not be that big of a problem. I also don't think that Mbappe's main reason why he wants to stay another year at PSG is that bonus. As far as i know he is earning 72 Million € per season at PSG at the moment which makes him the best paid footballer in Europe by far. So he does not really need that additional money i would guess.
I think that Mbappe will stay another year because his primary target, Real Madrid can not buy him in this summer because they have already bought Bellingham and Real has pretty high debts already. So they need to wait until the end of the coming season to sign Mbappe.

The problem is not on PSG, of course they are able to pay all salaries + bonuses what I mean is Mbappe does not want to lose the bonus, he will get a bonus of around 90 million if he completes his contract while he did not want to activate the contract extension for the next 12 months (2025) this means he really wants to move to another club. If you are PSG owner what will you do? let him go for free or release it to another club at a high price. Don't forget this related to business, they can make decisions if there is no other choice.

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July 02, 2023, 08:11:57 PM
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The effect of Saudi teams in the market was not something small, they spend huge amounts of money to hire the players they want, and since many other teams and players are not expecting to see this amount of money they ask for higher offers and this changed the market situation, which is hard for many other teams with a bad financial situation.

I think the effects of the Saudi teams are not that bad as being portrayed by the media; this is something that happens in every transfer window. At some point it was PSG buying every best gems in Europe to France, at some point it was Real Madrid splashing the cash to get Galaticos, Even Manchester City had their fair share; splashing lots of money on players in the market transfer, and Barcelona is not left out too. Now it is time to the Saudi league to flex the wealth of their football team, get the necessary viewers and fame too.
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According to the media Manchester United wants Hojlund from Atalanta and they did a bid for 35m €.

There is no way Atalanta will accept the offer, according to previous rumors they were asking 60m for him.


He only has 20 years, they will need someone crazy and with a lot of money if they really want that bid.

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July 02, 2023, 08:19:29 PM
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The effect of Saudi teams in the market was not something small, they spend huge amounts of money to hire the players they want, and since many other teams and players are not expecting to see this amount of money they ask for higher offers and this changed the market situation, which is hard for many other teams with a bad financial situation.

I think the effects of the Saudi teams are not that bad as being portrayed by the media; this is something that happens in every transfer window. At some point it was PSG buying every best gems in Europe to France, at some point it was Real Madrid splashing the cash to get Galaticos, Even Manchester City had their fair share; splashing lots of money on players in the market transfer, and Barcelona is not left out too. Now it is time to the Saudi league to flex the wealth of their football team, get the necessary viewers and fame too.
In fact, the reason why people are angry with the Saudis is because of the high amount of money they pay. They are making contracts that any European club will never be able to pay, and players are now aiming to play for any team in the Saudi Arabian league. Of course, after so many star players, the Saudi Arabian league has turned into a magnificent arena. it will be fun to watch.

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July 02, 2023, 08:23:10 PM
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In fact, the reason why people are angry with the Saudis is because of the high amount of money they pay. They are making contracts that any European club will never be able to pay, and players are now aiming to play for any team in the Saudi Arabian league. Of course, after so many star players, the Saudi Arabian league has turned into a magnificent arena. it will be fun to watch.

So far I haven't spent much time watching Arab Pro League matches, but when a lot of top European players migrate there, then maybe my interest will increase. It's the same when Ligue 1 brought in a lot of top European players, my interest in watching their games started to increase.

I heard that De Gea has the possibility to join one of the teams in the Arab Pro League. I'm not sure if the news is justified, but De Gea's situation with Manchester United is not good since Onana has been linked as Manchester United's priority signing as first-choice goalkeeper next season.

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July 02, 2023, 08:24:13 PM
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The effect of Saudi teams in the market was not something small, they spend huge amounts of money to hire the players they want, and since many other teams and players are not expecting to see this amount of money they ask for higher offers and this changed the market situation, which is hard for many other teams with a bad financial situation.
Other transfer windows are very different from this one; we have substantial bids coming in from the Saudi league, which has fully dominated the market. In the transfer window, we have beneficial as well as detrimental bids. This season, Saudi Arabia clubs have favorably influenced the football market by giving massive bids for players, and these players are tempted to take the offer without hesitation. Saudi Arabia's pro league is attempting to make itself appear popular and more competitive, I understand the direction they're coming from.



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According to the media Manchester United wants Hojlund from Atalanta and they did a bid for 35m €.
There is no way Atalanta will accept the offer, according to previous rumors they were asking 60m for him.
He only has 20 years, they will need someone crazy and with a lot of money if they really want that bid.

From what I've read, the price has gone up. "Man Utd prepared to sign Ramus Hojlund for £51.5m" news source
I think Atalanta could accept this offer. I think Manchester United should sign a much better striker. They saw that it wasn't with Weghorst. But not with young players. They should get someone who has proven themselves. If they take Hojlund, will they be able to play straight to the starting 11? How many goals can he score there? There is also the adaptation process. In my opinion, this is a risky transfer.

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