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December 18, 2025, 08:50:39 AM
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Recently, Roma's director reported had meeting with MU and Zirkzee's agent to discuss about Zirkzee's potential transfer. The fact is that MU is willing to cash out him for 35m, while Roma can't afford that. So Roma is demanding 6m++ loan fees to bring him to the Olimpico.
If i were MU's director, i'd reject such offer caused by the main target is to sell him, not to loan him. Yeah the report says Roma wants loan + obligation, but they have to learnt from what happened to the Sancho.

Obligation can be exchange to the penalty fees when Roma change their mind after the loan period. So it's not good for MU.
While a loan might seem logical at first, I think Manchester United should include a mandatory purchase option in the contract if they loan him to Roma. Because Roma could buy him and then send him back if they don't like him, resulting in no benefit for Manchester United. I want to criticize Manchester United's transfer policy here. Whoever is behind these transfers, I don't think they've gotten the full value out of any of them in recent years. Only Mbeumo has shown promise this year. Almost all the other players have gone on loan to other teams or been sold. I think Manchester United still hasn't shown its quality.
I've also talked about obligation to buy is not giving MU strong position to cash out Zirkzee. Don't you forget their case with Sancho and Chelsea? They have put obligation to buy in the Sancho's loan contract. Yet, Chelsea returned Sancho + penalty caused by blues were not interesting in permanent him.
So in this case, selling him is the best when they need money. However, i know priced Zirkzee 35m pound makes no sense considering they also bought him at almost the same rate. So, if they can lower it a bit, they may able to seal a trade for Zirkzee with Roma.
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December 18, 2025, 10:05:57 AM
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I completely disagree. Vinicius is certainly a great player but there is no way he is worth the same salary as Mbappé's. The amount of money he is asking for is huge, and I think that Real Madrid are also getting tired of some of his behaviors and they are open to actually sell him, they are not desperate to keep him because next year Nico Paz will go back to Madrid and he could perfectly replace the Brazilian for a fraction on the cost.
This club isn't built around just one player, and I think the management has considered Vinicius' situation in case he needs to be sold. Every player has a different salary, and perhaps that was also the case during the Ronaldo and Benzema eras, but they weren't as reckless as Vinicius, demanding a large pay rise. If Vinicius continues to insist on a high salary, I'm sure he'll be closer to leaving Real Madrid, even though his overall performance is still very much needed by the team.

Nico Paz has good prospects for the future, as his performances at Como have continued to improve, and Real Madrid has the advantage of including a buy-back clause, which could be a significant advantage if they were to re-sign him. The current situation within the Real Madrid squad is not good, as there are several issues that may be difficult to resolve.

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December 18, 2025, 10:17:40 AM
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Real Madrid are not making this relationship easy for the player to start with, I wasn't expecting this to get to this stage of them putting the Brazilian in a situation where it will look like he choose to abandon the club when they needed him the most and if you check, anything he asked for he deserves it 100%, what's there not to give it to him? After all he has been a better player and has also done so much for the club, should Madrid let him go I think it will be a big loss for them.
I completely disagree. Vinicius is certainly a great player but there is no way he is worth the same salary as Mbappé's. The amount of money he is asking for is huge, and I think that Real Madrid are also getting tired of some of his behaviors and they are open to actually sell him, they are not desperate to keep him because next year Nico Paz will go back to Madrid and he could perfectly replace the Brazilian for a fraction on the cost.

There's no doubt concerning him being a great player, but earning same salary with Mbappé, nah he has to merit it then the board would do the needful, you can see the number of goals Mbappe has scored this season and how helpful it's been to the team so if Vinicius want same salary he should be able to match Mbappe energy then fans would even support his ambitions of earning a higher pay. Well Real Madrid is a no nonsense club and I believe they'll handle the situation very fair enough. If you don't work hard There's no point asking for more money he either stay and improve his performance or leave.

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December 18, 2025, 10:34:57 AM
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Real Madrid are not making this relationship easy for the player to start with, I wasn't expecting this to get to this stage of them putting the Brazilian in a situation where it will look like he choose to abandon the club when they needed him the most and if you check, anything he asked for he deserves it 100%, what's there not to give it to him? After all he has been a better player and has also done so much for the club, should Madrid let him go I think it will be a big loss for them.
I completely disagree. Vinicius is certainly a great player but there is no way he is worth the same salary as Mbappé's. The amount of money he is asking for is huge, and I think that Real Madrid are also getting tired of some of his behaviors and they are open to actually sell him, they are not desperate to keep him because next year Nico Paz will go back to Madrid and he could perfectly replace the Brazilian for a fraction on the cost.
Yes, it is indeed inappropriate for Vinicius' salary to be equal to Mbappé's salary, especially since Mbappé's quality is clearly superior to Vinicius's, so it is natural that Mbappé's salary is higher than other players. Real Madrid should not need to keep Vinicius because he often creates controversies that sometimes harm the team, especially adding that wanting a high salary increase is really unreasonable and certainly Florentino Pérez will not agree to it. It would be better for Florentino Pérez to sell Vinicius and the money from the sale can bring in other better players.
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December 18, 2025, 10:57:36 AM
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Real Madrid are not making this relationship easy for the player to start with, I wasn't expecting this to get to this stage of them putting the Brazilian in a situation where it will look like he choose to abandon the club when they needed him the most and if you check, anything he asked for he deserves it 100%, what's there not to give it to him? After all he has been a better player and has also done so much for the club, should Madrid let him go I think it will be a big loss for them.
I completely disagree. Vinicius is certainly a great player but there is no way he is worth the same salary as Mbappé's. The amount of money he is asking for is huge, and I think that Real Madrid are also getting tired of some of his behaviors and they are open to actually sell him, they are not desperate to keep him because next year Nico Paz will go back to Madrid and he could perfectly replace the Brazilian for a fraction on the cost.
Isn't Vinicius salary issue already resolved, as he no longer demands it? But if he persists and demands the same salary as Mbappé, the club will not hesitate to let him go. So, it all comes down to him, as his options are very limited: staying with Madrid and following the club's wishes or leaving.

 
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December 18, 2025, 12:17:48 PM
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Real Madrid are not making this relationship easy for the player to start with, I wasn't expecting this to get to this stage of them putting the Brazilian in a situation where it will look like he choose to abandon the club when they needed him the most and if you check, anything he asked for he deserves it 100%, what's there not to give it to him? After all he has been a better player and has also done so much for the club, should Madrid let him go I think it will be a big loss for them.

But you don't know what he's demanding, do you? According to leaks, he wants a contract on par with Mbappé. But even if that's fair (there are many ways to look at it), Real Madrid simply can't afford to pay several players exorbitant salaries, so it's logical to part ways, right? This isn't about negativity or bad personal relationships, but simply about business. Just as two goalkeepers can't be on the field at the same time, two players with extra conditions would be too much for one club.

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December 18, 2025, 12:19:29 PM
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While a loan might seem logical at first, I think Manchester United should include a mandatory purchase option in the contract if they loan him to Roma. Because Roma could buy him and then send him back if they don't like him, resulting in no benefit for Manchester United. I want to criticize Manchester United's transfer policy here. Whoever is behind these transfers, I don't think they've gotten the full value out of any of them in recent years. Only Mbeumo has shown promise this year. Almost all the other players have gone on loan to other teams or been sold. I think Manchester United still hasn't shown its quality.
I've also talked about obligation to buy is not giving MU strong position to cash out Zirkzee. Don't you forget their case with Sancho and Chelsea? They have put obligation to buy in the Sancho's loan contract. Yet, Chelsea returned Sancho + penalty caused by blues were not interesting in permanent him.
So in this case, selling him is the best when they need money. However, i know priced Zirkzee 35m pound makes no sense considering they also bought him at almost the same rate. So, if they can lower it a bit, they may able to seal a trade for Zirkzee with Roma.

Letting Zirkzee go on loan is not a good option at the moment, as Man United don't have many options for the No.9 position. However, if Zirkzee can be sold permanently, then Man United will receive fresh funds, which, of course, they can use to acquire a new striker as a backup for Sesko. I'm sure Roma will reconsider their decision if any other teams are interested in Zirkzee. What Man United need to do now is take their time in the transfer market, so they don't make a mistake that could cost them.

Zirkzee has not had a good performance since joining Man United, but if he does not get an offer from any team, then keeping him at least until the end of the season is not a bad option.

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December 18, 2025, 12:33:36 PM
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Recently, Roma's director reported had meeting with MU and Zirkzee's agent to discuss about Zirkzee's potential transfer. The fact is that MU is willing to cash out him for 35m, while Roma can't afford that. So Roma is demanding 6m++ loan fees to bring him to the Olimpico.
If i were MU's director, i'd reject such offer caused by the main target is to sell him, not to loan him. Yeah the report says Roma wants loan + obligation, but they have to learnt from what happened to the Sancho.

Obligation can be exchange to the penalty fees when Roma change their mind after the loan period. So it's not good for MU.
The problem is, with such a high price, any team would find it difficult to acquire Zirkzee. Considering his performance, 35 million is considered expensive. If Manchester United really wants to sell Zirkzee permanently, they should lower their price further to attract interested clubs. Manchester United's directors need to renegotiate with Roma to lower the price. Perhaps if the price is 20 million, Roma will likely consider a permanent purchase, plus Zirkzee would also have to reduce his salary.
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But you don't know what he's demanding, do you? According to leaks, he wants a contract on par with Mbappé. But even if that's fair (there are many ways to look at it), Real Madrid simply can't afford to pay several players exorbitant salaries, so it's logical to part ways, right? This isn't about negativity or bad personal relationships, but simply about business. Just as two goalkeepers can't be on the field at the same time, two players with extra conditions would be too much for one club.
asking for similar salary with Mbappe it's unbelieveable, Mbappe have another value for Madrid not just when he play but also income for Madrid. Vinicius is good player, but doesn't have value like Mbappe at least till now. So it's normal if Madrid decide to let him go instead granted his request to get salary equal with Mbappe or a bit below him. He need more selling value for himself before asking that to Madrid.
Mbappe can bring more sponsor to Madrid, he like magnet to increase Madrid fans around the globe. And Vinicius not on that level right now.

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Recently, Roma's director reported had meeting with MU and Zirkzee's agent to discuss about Zirkzee's potential transfer. The fact is that MU is willing to cash out him for 35m, while Roma can't afford that. So Roma is demanding 6m++ loan fees to bring him to the Olimpico.
If i were MU's director, i'd reject such offer caused by the main target is to sell him, not to loan him. Yeah the report says Roma wants loan + obligation, but they have to learnt from what happened to the Sancho.

Obligation can be exchange to the penalty fees when Roma change their mind after the loan period. So it's not good for MU.

Some reports says he will want to stay and fight for his place in the Manchester United team. The club management are also aware of thus but they are not looking to sell him. The reason why he needs game time should be because he wants to make it to the world cup with Netherlands. With some roles absent for the African competition he will be available for roles if he is match fit and deemed ready for the game. The above are not true informations
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One of the hottest rumor is here. Maresca is being reported in getting upset with Chelsea's management due to the squad choice. It's caused by he being forced to always rotate the squad. So he's now being linked as City's new coach if Pep will leave next season. People who said Maresca should be sacked obviously dumb.
IMO, he's already outperformed so many managers in just his two years in Chelsea. If you guys are wondering the main problem why Maresca often did 11 players rotation due to their management. The management is keen to give all players minutes to ensure their price won't be plunged. So it really affect squad stability, which is making his job getting harder.

I personally very happy to see my fav club to get Pep's regen. Imagine City gets Maresca, then Chelsea sign South Gate as per the latest rumor.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

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One of the hottest rumor is here. Maresca is being reported in getting upset with Chelsea's management due to the squad choice. It's caused by he being forced to always rotate the squad. So he's now being linked as City's new coach if Pep will leave next season. People who said Maresca should be sacked obviously dumb.
IMO, he's already outperformed so many managers in just his two years in Chelsea. If you guys are wondering the main problem why Maresca often did 11 players rotation due to their management. The management is keen to give all players minutes to ensure their price won't be plunged. So it really affect squad stability, which is making his job getting harder.

I personally very happy to see my fav club to get Pep's regen. Imagine City gets Maresca, then Chelsea sign South Gate as per the latest rumor.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

As for me I dont think there is anything wrong in team rotation as its a means of getting all equipped and ready to play if the team is affected by injuries or other related issues. Some of the reasons behind some teams inconsistent performance is there inability to give available players option to fit into the teams game pattern when the time comes but the only challenge on the matter is for management to forcefully mandate him to do the needful which is getting all players ready at all times. But I know that rotational pattern is a very good pattern to help keep his team ready.

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One of the hottest rumor is here. Maresca is being reported in getting upset with Chelsea's management due to the squad choice. It's caused by he being forced to always rotate the squad. So he's now being linked as City's new coach if Pep will leave next season. People who said Maresca should be sacked obviously dumb.
IMO, he's already outperformed so many managers in just his two years in Chelsea. If you guys are wondering the main problem why Maresca often did 11 players rotation due to their management. The management is keen to give all players minutes to ensure their price won't be plunged. So it really affect squad stability, which is making his job getting harder.

I personally very happy to see my fav club to get Pep's regen. Imagine City gets Maresca, then Chelsea sign South Gate as per the latest rumor.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
For the past few years now Maresca is the best coach Chelsea have had and till now he is doing very well for them. Without him I don't think they will be where they are now. Taking them back to champions league, winning multiple trophies in his first season and seeing them as title contenders is an achievement they shouldn't underrate. No coach was able to do this and now Chelsea are able to challenge top teams now and win. The management will regret when they lose him. It seems they have forgotten how they struggled with different coaches before signing Maresca, if they lose him I am sure Chelsea will end up struggling as they used to before because it's not easy having a good coach as him now. Southgate won't take the team anywhere, funny how they a re replacing him with Southgate.

Manchester City are aware of his abilities that's why he is on their radar as a possible replacement for Guardiola, it will be unfair if Manchester City gets hold of him as Guardiola replacement. Let just hope things don't end that way.

 
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Some reports says he will want to stay and fight for his place in the Manchester United team. The club management are also aware of thus but they are not looking to sell him. The reason why he needs game time should be because he wants to make it to the world cup with Netherlands.
I think this was Zirkzee's position at the beginning of the season, but I'm not sure if he feels the same way now. It is pointless staying at United when his opportunities will be limited. It will be best if he seeks playing time elsewhere. If both clubs can reach an agreement, he should leave, or else it might cost him not going to the World Cup.

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One of the hottest rumor is here. Maresca is being reported in getting upset with Chelsea's management due to the squad choice. It's caused by he being forced to always rotate the squad. So he's now being linked as City's new coach if Pep will leave next season. People who said Maresca should be sacked obviously dumb.
IMO, he's already outperformed so many managers in just his two years in Chelsea. If you guys are wondering the main problem why Maresca often did 11 players rotation due to their management. The management is keen to give all players minutes to ensure their price won't be plunged. So it really affect squad stability, which is making his job getting harder.

I personally very happy to see my fav club to get Pep's regen. Imagine City gets Maresca, then Chelsea sign South Gate as per the latest rumor.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
If Chelsea don't value what they have until they lose it. This is the case of Maresca and Chelsea. He's acting according to what the management wants and that's why the club performance is inconsistent. Let the management allow Maresca to do whatever, he wants in order to solidify the team's performance. Teaching him how to do his job is unfair because the blame will be on him.

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Real Madrid are not making this relationship easy for the player to start with, I wasn't expecting this to get to this stage of them putting the Brazilian in a situation where it will look like he choose to abandon the club when they needed him the most and if you check, anything he asked for he deserves it 100%, what's there not to give it to him? After all he has been a better player and has also done so much for the club, should Madrid let him go I think it will be a big loss for them.

Yes you are right it will be a big loss for Real Madrid if they should let him go because vini Junior is very important in that team, when it comes to attacking he's very good and no one does it better than him not even mbappe, is that player that usually drive the opposite team around and cause them to fear, he's a player that no matter how strong the defense is he finds a way to break out and make the defense lose there by giving them chance to score.
If Real Madrid could let Cristiano Ronaldo go because of the same increment issues I'm very sure that they will also let vini Junior go, for me I think it is time for vini Junior to go and I'm sure a lot of club will come for him.

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Yes you are right it will be a big loss for Real Madrid if they should let him go because vini Junior is very important in that team, when it comes to attacking he's very good and no one does it better than him not even mbappe,

You are absolutely one big delusional Vini's fanboy because I can clearly tell you that in term of goal scoring Mbappe is a league ahead of Vini this season. Vini is not even close to Mbappe this season. Yeah Xabi seems to favour Mbappe compared to Vini but their stats speaks the fact

If you guys are wondering the main problem why Maresca often did 11 players rotation due to their management. The management is keen to give all players minutes to ensure their price won't be plunged. So it really affect squad stability, which is making his job getting harder.

I personally very happy to see my fav club to get Pep's regen. Imagine City gets Maresca, then Chelsea sign South Gate as per the latest rumor.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Now that really explain my curiousity on why he seems to always use different lineup but yeah considering that his squad consist of all those young players I guess there is really no reason for him to stick with the same lineup. I probably would rotate as well because the youngsters might surprise me somehow, everyone are so determined to earn their spot on the lineup

 
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Recently, Roma's director reported had meeting with MU and Zirkzee's agent to discuss about Zirkzee's potential transfer. The fact is that MU is willing to cash out him for 35m, while Roma can't afford that. So Roma is demanding 6m++ loan fees to bring him to the Olimpico.
If i were MU's director, i'd reject such offer caused by the main target is to sell him, not to loan him. Yeah the report says Roma wants loan + obligation, but they have to learnt from what happened to the Sancho.

Obligation can be exchange to the penalty fees when Roma change their mind after the loan period. So it's not good for MU.
While a loan might seem logical at first, I think Manchester United should include a mandatory purchase option in the contract if they loan him to Roma. Because Roma could buy him and then send him back if they don't like him, resulting in no benefit for Manchester United. I want to criticize Manchester United's transfer policy here. Whoever is behind these transfers, I don't think they've gotten the full value out of any of them in recent years. Only Mbeumo has shown promise this year. Almost all the other players have gone on loan to other teams or been sold. I think Manchester United still hasn't shown its quality.
I've also talked about obligation to buy is not giving MU strong position to cash out Zirkzee. Don't you forget their case with Sancho and Chelsea? They have put obligation to buy in the Sancho's loan contract. Yet, Chelsea returned Sancho + penalty caused by blues were not interesting in permanent him.
So in this case, selling him is the best when they need money. However, i know priced Zirkzee 35m pound makes no sense considering they also bought him at almost the same rate. So, if they can lower it a bit, they may able to seal a trade for Zirkzee with Roma.
I think it will be a good move for Joshua Zirkzee, because he really needs to have game time now, because when you look at what he is doing at Manchester United he doesn’t have much playing time, and it’s a World Cup year next year which means he will need more game time, but I think right now that Mbeumo have gone to the African Cup of Nations it will give him a different opportunity for more game time, but moving to AS Roma is going to be more good and beneficial for his career than staying at Manchester United on the bench, I think a permanent move will be more better for him because staying at Manchester United without game time wouldn’t be very good at all for his career.











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I don't know what you think about his recent statement. But I'm totally on Fernandes' side here. He is right about all he is saying. They didn't act fair to him last season.

Leaving the door open for him to leave is so wrong. We are talking about your best player in the squad. Nobody can deny it. Right now he is carrying the team again. His recent performances have been insanely good.

If Fernandes leaves next summer being heartbroken then it is on the owners...
I am 100% sure something is in the middle of the versions we got. I have been in sports world before, not in football but in other branches and I can tell you that things are not black and white. For example Bruno may have mentioned he was suggested to take the offer, whereas management could say that they never insisted on it and both could be true.

Well, ownership may have never said something to Bruno, people who actually have the power to make this deal may have never said a thing, but some assistant, or some clerk, or some just C-suite level person could have mentioned it to Bruno, and because Bruno thought he represents the ownership, he may have thought that he was being forced out. As you can see, in a situation like that (I have seen something similar before) Bruno thought he was forced out while ownership never had that purpose at all.
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One of the hottest rumor is here. Maresca is being reported in getting upset with Chelsea's management due to the squad choice. It's caused by he being forced to always rotate the squad. So he's now being linked as City's new coach if Pep will leave next season. People who said Maresca should be sacked obviously dumb.
IMO, he's already outperformed so many managers in just his two years in Chelsea. If you guys are wondering the main problem why Maresca often did 11 players rotation due to their management. The management is keen to give all players minutes to ensure their price won't be plunged. So it really affect squad stability, which is making his job getting harder.

I personally very happy to see my fav club to get Pep's regen. Imagine City gets Maresca, then Chelsea sign South Gate as per the latest rumor.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
One of the best news I have heard today. Deep down I pray this should become reality. As long as it's pep's student I trust him completely to trust him with City anytime Pep leaves. A goat can only give birth to a goat, Pep Guardiola cannot raise nonsense.  Enzo Maresca is not utilizing his full potential at Chelsea because of the Chelsea way of playing football and available players. If he comes to Manchester city were he was part of the success story he will easily implement what he learnt easily. This shouldn't end as just a rumour please.
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