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August 17, 2023, 02:50:05 PM
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Felix is having a hard time at Atletico Madrid, I don't know if the   coach and the player are having issues because I don't see that connections between the coach and the player for him to start and he's not happy. Ever since he got back from the EPL on loan to Chelsea, he hasn't been the same player he was when he left on loan.
Now he wants the club to terminate his contract and the club don't want that but they increased his market prize to £80m, to me I feel he's not up to that amount and even if that amount is divided is a No to me, maybe he should be around £30-40m.
Is he up to that amount, £80m?

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August 17, 2023, 03:27:14 PM
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Felix is having a hard time at Atletico Madrid, I don't know if the   coach and the player are having issues because I don't see that connections between the coach and the player for him to start and he's not happy. Ever since he got back from the EPL on loan to Chelsea, he hasn't been the same player he was when he left on loan.
Now he wants the club to terminate his contract and the club don't want that but they increased his market prize to £80m, to me I feel he's not up to that amount and even if that amount is divided is a No to me, maybe he should be around £30-40m.
Is he up to that amount, £80m?
Nope, £80M is too much, that's higher than Haaland where his performance didn't even close to Haaland.

Atletico Madrid has been known as a business team, they're trying to make money selling and loan their players, Griezmann was an example where Atletico Madrid sign him for £30M from Real Sociedad, then Barcelona spent £120M to sign him and Atletico sign him for £20M from Barcelona.

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August 17, 2023, 03:30:03 PM
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Felix is having a hard time at Atletico Madrid, I don't know if the   coach and the player are having issues because I don't see that connections between the coach and the player for him to start and he's not happy. Ever since he got back from the EPL on loan to Chelsea, he hasn't been the same player he was when he left on loan.
Now he wants the club to terminate his contract and the club don't want that but they increased his market prize to £80m, to me I feel he's not up to that amount and even if that amount is divided is a No to me, maybe he should be around £30-40m.
Is he up to that amount, £80m?
The 23 years old Portuguese players is a very skillful and talented one, and have had quite a tough time at Athletico madrid and is not even in good terms with Simeone since last seaaon making him to get less playing and they even had to loan him to Chelsea, his performance at Chelsea was not quite bad, even while they had a tough season as a club he was one of the outstanding players and i expected Chelsea to sign him on a permanent transfer but the new coach Pochettino rather allowed him to go back to Athletico after loan ended
 However during the early stages of the transfer window, Félix took to social media to declare his feelings open to Barcelona and claiming he doesn't see himself playing for any club than the club he fanned during his childhood which is Barcelona, they picked Interest in him and talks where ongoing not until simeoné decided to increase their demand for him and forced Barcelona to consider steping out of the deal due to financial issues barca has, now we've currently seen players sold at a very expensive price and lef for me i think he's worth around £50m at most  but if Mason mount that didn't really performed well at Chelsea last season be worth up to £65m then how much more would João Félix who performed better and had more playing than him at  Chelsea last season be worth?

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August 17, 2023, 03:47:49 PM
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https://twitter.com/DeadlineDayLive/status/1691783248567775387

The saudi club just treats him like a king. It will be so stupid if neymar was rejecting such offers. Even though neymar is one of the richest football player in the world, but i can't deny that if saudi club was giving so many facilities to him.
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On the part of Neymar, this is of course the right decision, he never gave himself completely to football (by the way, as the current coach of Al-Hilal spoke about), and now he has completely sold his talent and money.
The only question is whether he can honestly work out this money? Or again, everything will turn into violations of the sports regime, unscheduled weekends to celebrate the sister's birthday, the Brazilian carnival, etc.

Are we going to deny that Brazilians loves party or maybe everyone are not happy for his choice of clubs and decision. I was one of the people that dislike his stay throughout in PSG and when he made the moves, Al-Hilal has the money and every agent want the best for his client, the more money the player has and priviledges, so does the agent, it can be assumed that Saudi Arabia are ready to spend heaven on earth for European players and that is why the negotiation ended with those incentives and he's worth it in my opinion. Those who will creticise will but if they are in similar position, they will do worse. Angry

The Saudi Arabia clubs want to have name and recognition of their leagues, the money is there, whoever deserves it is going to have it and the fact that Neymar made a two year contract is a wise decision, he can leave after his contribution for another club elsewhere.

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August 17, 2023, 03:55:26 PM
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At least he told the reality. I mean no player that went to Saudi league went there for higher life quality or better football. We are talking about just money here, no other team could have offered even half of what these players are getting at saudi arabia, imagine it, not even half. Like for example Ronaldo is getting something close to 100 million a year right? Would anyone pay him 50 million in Europe? Of course not, they wouldn't, and that's why he is there. Same goes for Neymar as well, he is not going to get paid at all, and I do not think that it would ever be considered possible for him to get this much money. All in all, they are all playing for money without a doubt.

Well, for every football player who has gone to the Saudi league it was obviously about the money. Maybe a good lifestyle is a byproduct of that. And obviously cannot say that they went to the Saudi league because they wanted to play in a better quality league. They have gone to the Saudi league and that has eventually made the quality better for that league.

The situation diverges slightly in the case of Cristiano Ronaldo. He genuinely wanted to play in the European competition, even if he had to consider getting a little less amount of money. Of course, Cristiano Ronaldo is not a bad player. But considering his age, a club could easily find a younger and more agile player who could have improved with the club as well. So why would any club pay him that money instead of a youngster? He actually has no options left and that’s why he moved to the Saudi league. But every player that followed him to the Saudi league had multiple options if I have not wrong.

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August 17, 2023, 04:03:07 PM
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Felix is having a hard time at Atletico Madrid, I don't know if the   coach and the player are having issues because I don't see that connections between the coach and the player for him to start and he's not happy. Ever since he got back from the EPL on loan to Chelsea, he hasn't been the same player he was when he left on loan.
Now he wants the club to terminate his contract and the club don't want that but they increased his market prize to £80m, to me I feel he's not up to that amount and even if that amount is divided is a No to me, maybe he should be around £30-40m.
Is he up to that amount, £80m?
Many reports said that Diego Simeone did not like the player, Felix statement that he wanted to cross to Barcelona added to the heat of the situation. The price set by the ATM for the player is the reason for the complexity of the Portuguese striker's move. On the other hand, this is very reasonable, because Felix was bought at a high price from Benfica in 2019.

If you look at the price on Transfermarkt and compare it with its current performance on the field, it's too expensive. Agree with you 40 Million Euros is perfect for Felix now.

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August 17, 2023, 04:11:12 PM
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@rendravolt Liverpool are desperate and I don’t blame them for a reason that I’m yet failing to understand every player they wanted decided to reject them despite their bid being the winning bid. Also I like Poch a lot but how could any player turn down the chance to work under Klopp and agreed they had a bad season but he’s a top class coach and I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets the best out of Endo too which will justify why Liverpool bought him.

Do you mean about Caicedo turning down Liverpool? If yes, then actually Caicedo chose Chelsea because it was Chelsea who actually approached Caicedo first. They already had an agreement with the player done before getting things done with Brighton. Liverpool were late in approaching for Caicedo otherwise he would have gone to Liverpool. Had Chelsea not improved the bid, then again Liverpool would have gotten Caicedo.

It's simple as he (Caicedo) gave a word to Chelsea and kept it until the end.
@Averunes, you just hit the nail straight on the head. The decision made by Caceido is one based on integrity for a man that takes his words for who he is. It wasn't just about the money, Chelsea has been on his (Caceido) tails for long now even before making a direct approach to Brighton about the DM, Liverpool only stepped-in in the middle of everything and it was left for the player to make his decision on which he did standing on his promise to Chelsea. And even if it's not in football it also applies in general aspect of life that people should always learn to keep to their words whatever the case.

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August 17, 2023, 04:22:40 PM
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Many reports said that Diego Simeone did not like the player, Felix statement that he wanted to cross to Barcelona added to the heat of the situation. The price set by the ATM for the player is the reason for the complexity of the Portuguese striker's move. On the other hand, this is very reasonable, because Felix was bought at a high price from Benfica in 2019.

If you look at the price on Transfermarkt and compare it with its current performance on the field, it's too expensive. Agree with you 40 Million Euros is perfect for Felix now.

40 million is under the market value because currently Joao Felix's value is 50 million, I'm not sure Atletico agree with that price especially he is a young player of 23 years, regardless of decreased performance it doesn't describe his future I mean he still has time to get it back. After all, moving to another club is the best way to prove that letting go was a mistake.
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August 17, 2023, 04:25:47 PM
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About Neymar's being signed by Al-Hilal I think that he has done the right thing for himself. Because it was clear that he had no future at PSG from now on. He has been struggling with injury problems for a long time. He missed so many matches last season for example. PSG also wanted this transfer to happen.

Neymar is going to earn 300 million dollars for 2 years and it can go up to 400 million as well. He can just earn lots of money there.

He earns everything from al hilal. Neymar was not just getting money, but he is also getting luxury life from the saudi club. It's hard to imagine neymar denying such an offer. It sounds nonsense as this guy really care about money instead of his passion. He has got many trophies and why's next? He needs to enjoy his life after he spent so many years in the football. Neymar is gonna play with so many prominent names in al hilal.

He is making the right decision. I don't know the possibility of him returning to the european competition. He may stay there for many years.

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August 17, 2023, 04:51:57 PM
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About Neymar's being signed by Al-Hilal I think that he has done the right thing for himself. Because it was clear that he had no future at PSG from now on. He has been struggling with injury problems for a long time. He missed so many matches last season for example. PSG also wanted this transfer to happen.

Neymar is going to earn 300 million dollars for 2 years and it can go up to 400 million as well. He can just earn lots of money there.

He earns everything from al hilal. Neymar was not just getting money, but he is also getting luxury life from the saudi club. It's hard to imagine neymar denying such an offer. It sounds nonsense as this guy really care about money instead of his passion. He has got many trophies and why's next? He needs to enjoy his life after he spent so many years in the football. Neymar is gonna play with so many prominent names in al hilal.

He is making the right decision. I don't know the possibility of him returning to the european competition. He may stay there for many years.

Well that's right and there are very few players including top players who can refuse such fantastic offers, and most of them will go happily. For Neymar himself is sure he will get a large salary there along with luxury services. With his habit as a player who is prone to injury in my opinion maybe he has realized this, he cannot compete with some other top players in various hunts in Europe because of the injury factor that he always suffers and on the other hand it is also true as you say that he has collected many trophies in Europe as the world's top player. And that may have been the reason why he was willing to go to Al Hilal, most likely he was already not thinking too much about his career but money is his priority now. If there's nothing else he wants to pursue other than money then I think he'll be there for a long time. 

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August 17, 2023, 04:56:34 PM
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Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain finally left premier league teams and in the next season he is going to play for Beşiktaş in Turkey I'm not sure why Chamberlain choose Beşiktaş, because this player is still young he is 29 years old player which means he can play for the top teams in Europe for years but choosing Beşiktaş doesn't make sense for him.
Chamberlain joined Liverpool from Arsenal in 2017 for 42m and he played 146 games for this team, but after 2019 he but injured and he couldn't play in many games for his team.  


Turkish league is far from the worst, even Icardi was able to restart his career there, so maybe Chamberlain can do it too. Chamberlain is a good player,  talented, but it did not work out at Liverpool to get a grip on the main squad, after all, Klopp is a tough coach and if something does not work out, you immediately fall out of the squad. The example of Firmino and Fabinho is even more vivid than Chamberlain.

Chamberlain still has a chance to prove himself, in 29 sometimes everything is just beginning.

This transfer is considered the beginning of a beautiful adventure for Chamberlain. I think he can be better in the Turkish league after Liverpool. The example of Mauro Icardi is a very good example. Apart from that, there are good players from the Turkish league who went to Europe again. If this transfer is good for him, he can revive his career.

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August 17, 2023, 05:06:14 PM
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Felix is having a hard time at Atletico Madrid, I don't know if the   coach and the player are having issues because I don't see that connections between the coach and the player for him to start and he's not happy. Ever since he got back from the EPL on loan to Chelsea, he hasn't been the same player he was when he left on loan.
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I don't think Joa Felix is a great footballer, but it's not easy to adapt to Diego Simeone's game plan. For an offensive footballer, working with Diego Simeone must be a nightmare. :) In fact, Joa Felix had the chance to get away from Diego Simeone by playing for Chelsea in the second half of last season, but he didn't perform impressively at Chelsea and returned to Atletico Madrid. If he had done a bit better in the Premier League, I think he would have been a bit more likely to move to another team this season.

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August 17, 2023, 05:31:05 PM
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He earns everything from al hilal. Neymar was not just getting money, but he is also getting luxury life from the saudi club. It's hard to imagine neymar denying such an offer. It sounds nonsense as this guy really care about money instead of his passion. He has got many trophies and why's next? He needs to enjoy his life after he spent so many years in the football. Neymar is gonna play with so many prominent names in al hilal.

He is making the right decision. I don't know the possibility of him returning to the european competition. He may stay there for many years.
Apart from how Neymar finally chose to go to the Arab League competition, everything made sense, apart from the big salary offer at PSG, it was no longer sustainable. PSG needs players who are ready in prime condition, then at this time Dembele input has made Neymar position even more threatened. At Al Hilal he can enjoy all the facilities that have been agreed upon, money, cars, houses, and with crazy offers anyone is hard to refuse.

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August 17, 2023, 05:36:11 PM
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IMO, a very classic excuse made by Neymar. that in truth, Neymar doesn't have many options because not many top clubs really want his services. there are several factors behind it, apart from Neymar being prone to injury, a high salary, it seems that PSG are reluctant to let him go for an easy price. then, Al Hilal also offered a proposal with a very high salary.

Previously, this club really wanted Messi and some very famous star players. however, their attempts always fail. seeing the situation that was happening within the PSG camp, Al Hilal tried to offer a proposal for Mbape but the player was not interested in the offer. finally, they tried to get Neymar and promised a much higher salary. Not many choices, in the end Neymar accepted the proposal. regarding the questions from the interview session, which you share in this link.

To be honest, I didn't take it seriously. because, Neymar actually still deserves to play in the highest commission. it's just that, he has a problem that is prone to injury. Al Hilal, offers a fantastic salary. then, in the end he did not refuse the offer. the point is, it was the salary that attracted Neymar. plus, not many European clubs are seriously interested in using his services.
So which statement should I refer to while what comes out of Neymar's mouth is clear, regardless of classic reasons or not why not go to Inter Miami? whatever the reason, I think it's more ridiculous if it's not supported by evidence, right?

I don't care if Messi or Neymar really want it, but we're just talking about facts because when the facts are in front of our eyes it's impossible to dream of another side that doesn't happen. That's how we objectively evaluate whether we like it or not, the fact remains the fact that now the Arab League is becoming more and more attractive. Money factor? of course money plays an important role in smoothing the Arab League in increasing its competition.

What facts are offered only from a statement that can be arranged in such a way, but if the fact that Neymar still has 2 more seasons of contract with PSG is the truth. "before he left for Al Hilal". actually I don't have a problem with Neymar's statement, it's just that for me it's just a figurative word and a very classic reason. "It should be noted, what I said there is no tendency to corner" so, we have nothing to refer to what he said. but what is certain, now Neymar is part of the Al Hilal squad and that is a true fact.

Then, why didn't Neymar go to Inter Miami. interesting question, is Inter Miami interested in recruiting Neymar. what salary did they offer for him, because Messi was already there. plus, Messi has contracts with Apple and Adidas, who are rumored to be ready to share the results with the Argentine star.

The money factor, yep, that's what triggers it. if not money, then what else can Al Hilal offer. to be honest, I like Neymar with his style and characteristics of the game, even I don't really care about his statement which is a reference for you. from my point of view, Neymar still deserves to play in the highest caste competition. I mean, Neymar can actually play for a top European club. Unfortunately, PSG is reluctant to let one of their stars go cheap. plus, the player is vulnerable to injury. which in the end, not many clubs are really serious about using his services. besides, he has entered the age of 30+. in the end, the best choice for Neymar was to accept Al Hilal's offer.

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August 17, 2023, 05:37:26 PM
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After Liverpool failed to get Caicedo from Brighton because he preferred to join Chelsea. Now Liverpool have got a new defensive midfielder to replace Fabinho and he is Wataru Endo from Stuttgart. He is already 30 years old and as a midfielder this will consume a lot of stamina, let alone playing in the most competitive league, of course he will often experience fatigue. The transfer fee is not expensive, only around 19 million euros and is 5x cheaper than Caicedo's price. Wataru Endo will undergo a medical test today and after that he will be officially announced as a new Liverpool player. In your opinion, for Liverpool's midfield depth, is this Japanese player very good for Liverpool?

@rendravolt Liverpool are desperate and I don’t blame them for a reason that I’m yet failing to understand every player they wanted decided to reject them despite their bid being the winning bid. Also I like Poch a lot but how could any player turn down the chance to work under Klopp and agreed they had a bad season but he’s a top class coach and I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets the best out of Endo too which will justify why Liverpool bought him.
I think Liverpool are not desperate and maybe the choice this time is quite rational even though it can be considered a rush purchase. Liverpool's refusal is actually not a matter of cost because if we talk about costs the two teams have reached an agreement, but the players also determine their future from a weekly salary and Chelsea must be admitted to have a bigger salary offer than that offered by Liverpool. Therefore, when Liverpool competes with Chelsea, of course everything ends with player salaries and we cannot deny that.

Maybe if Liverpool were not only big in terms of fees and the salary offered was also very large, I think players like Caicedo or Romeo Lavia would choose Liverpool. Especially if we look at Chelsea not playing in European competition this season and Liverpool can still compete in the European league. So joining Liverpool should be more profitable and also have the opportunity to finish at the top again.

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Chelsea have spent €120M to sign him, after six months they want to sell this player? that's crazy because his market value is only €55M, I don't think Liverpool will spend as high as €120M which mean Chelsea are in lose assuming the transfer will successful.

I think Enzo Fernandez is a good defensive midfielder, he's worth for €55-80M, he have not making any blunder in Chelsea.
I think it's more about making sure that they are under FFP. For those who do not know, when you buy a player that price goes part by part into his contract, so lets assume you pay someone 80 million dollars, but have him sign an 8 year contract, that means only 10 million goes into FFP and when you sell him for 70 million, that means you made 60 million in profit on paper.

This is what they did last year, they looked like they spent a ton of money to get those players but in return they ended up making sure that they sell some of them and do better. Next up is that they can sell a few players every year, and get few players every year and be in profit, and keep the number of players equal no matter how much it costs them.

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Felix is having a hard time at Atletico Madrid, I don't know if the   coach and the player are having issues because I don't see that connections between the coach and the player for him to start and he's not happy. Ever since he got back from the EPL on loan to Chelsea, he hasn't been the same player he was when he left on loan.
Now he wants the club to terminate his contract and the club don't want that but they increased his market prize to £80m, to me I feel he's not up to that amount and even if that amount is divided is a No to me, maybe he should be around £30-40m.
Is he up to that amount, £80m?
Many reports said that Diego Simeone did not like the player, Felix statement that he wanted to cross to Barcelona added to the heat of the situation. The price set by the ATM for the player is the reason for the complexity of the Portuguese striker's move. On the other hand, this is very reasonable, because Felix was bought at a high price from Benfica in 2019.

If you look at the price on Transfermarkt and compare it with its current performance on the field, it's too expensive. Agree with you 40 Million Euros is perfect for Felix now.
There is probably many things behind the scene that is happening in Atletico Madrid, especially between their coach and the young player Felix. I need no one to tell me about this, for Atletico Madrid to agree to release such a good young player to Chelsea on a loan explained everything. But the inability of Chelsea to retain him made me think Atletico Madrid needed him back. Could it be maybe a financial problem that was not agreed that made him not to stay in Chelsea, but now he is still finding it difficult under simeoni. I think Felix deserve better and he should be let go

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After Liverpool failed to get Caicedo from Brighton because he preferred to join Chelsea. Now Liverpool have got a new defensive midfielder to replace Fabinho and he is Wataru Endo from Stuttgart. He is already 30 years old and as a midfielder this will consume a lot of stamina, let alone playing in the most competitive league, of course he will often experience fatigue. The transfer fee is not expensive, only around 19 million euros and is 5x cheaper than Caicedo's price. Wataru Endo will undergo a medical test today and after that he will be officially announced as a new Liverpool player. In your opinion, for Liverpool's midfield depth, is this Japanese player very good for Liverpool?

I don't know much about Endo. To be honest, until yesterday, I never knew who he was but the fact that Liverpool is close to landing him only says that they already had him on their radar before now. From the reports and comments I've seen so far, he seems like an unsung hero that might do well in this Liverpool team. A midfield diamond featuring Mac Allister, Szoboszlai amd Endo to sit at the heart of Liverpool's defense looks solid if you ask me.

I'd wait till his first couple of games for Liverpool in order to access his qualities. Until then.

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August 17, 2023, 05:59:41 PM
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I don't know much about Endo. To be honest, until yesterday, I never knew who he was.
They must have scouted him and followed him since his very good performance for Japan in the world cup.

Arsenal are exploring the possibility of signing another versatile defender after their key man, Jurrien Timber suffered injury in the game against Northingham Forest.The players has already gotten his way into the hearts of Arsenal fans with his  solids performance and versatility in the Arsenal team.The player who was bought from Ajax for a fee in the region of 45 million Euros was brought in to be a cover for Zinchenko,and since his arrival at Arsenal,his defensive capabilities has made Arteta  chose him over Tierney,but his injury will force Arsenal to look at the transfer window again in other to strengthen that department.It is yet to be seen how long the payer will be on the sideline,but Arteta has discussed bringing in another player,and who that could be has not yet been disclosed.
This is a good plan since Timber will be out all through the season. The coach had a plan with him for this season,but It is no longer going to work It is a big disappointment for Arsenal because they were already happy to have signed a versatile player like him. For Timber, he will not be happy for how long he will be out, as he will have to fight his way to the first team choice again and hope that his injury does not happen again after he becomes better.

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August 17, 2023, 06:03:02 PM
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Some European clubs were very thoughtful when they signed him for a sum that would have been fantastic but they could not get the appropriate contribution from the player because of his injury prone habits. But for the Arab clubs themselves it seems that they are not considering this, but for myself it seems that I will put a little doubt.
Arab clubs signed these big players mostly because of their fan base and the huge attention that they can draw. They do not mind if these players are old and almost retiring, if they will get injured and stay all season on the bench, they are just interested in bringing them, and they make their deals so enticing that other big players who are not yet in the league will begin to consider accepting a deal from them if it ever comes.

Yes, their main target is indeed the fan base and also the attention they will get when they bring in big players, not only from the fans themselves, but also from the media who will also definitely highlight them. The bigger the news about them, the bigger the attention and that will come with its benefits.
Logically, it may seem like an exaggeration, but from a business point of view, it does bring them profit.
Yes, inevitably we have to talk about business too is the movement that Arab League clubs are doing. And that's natural.

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