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December 04, 2025, 05:51:56 AM
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Manchester United is willing to spend some good amount of money this winter break from the rumours. Reason is probably because Amorim took the team better, and while they did already spent 200+ million on the summer, spending another 100 million on two players to have more depth and fix whatever seems to be wrong so far would have them be even better.

Untied wouldn't have spent a dime if it was bad so far, but they recovered after a bad start and doing great right now so I am assuming that they are going to spend some more aiming to be in top six by the end of the season. That would give them at least a Europa level finish, obviously they would wish for a fourth place so they would be back in UCL after a few years away, but that I do not see yet.
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His contribution to Real Madrid has been significant, and although his goal-scoring quality has declined compared to recent seasons, Vinicius' presence on the team is significant, and I'm confident Real Madrid won't let him go. Salary demands may be a slight obstacle in contract extension negotiations, as Vinicius is asking for a higher salary increase than Real Madrid is offering, even though his current contract runs until 2027. Several sources I've read suggest the biggest issue right now is his lack of harmony with Xabi Alonso, which has hampered the contract talks which Real Madrid is trying to extend until 2030.
Real Madrid still not announce new green light for negotiation new contract with Vinicius Jr already expiring at June 2027, just one season left if can't reach agreement deal the players has chance will leave Madrid as free agent players. Salary demand its main problem why negotiation not reach agreement deal yet until right now and Vinicius Jr asking increase his salary than current active contract. Talking about lack harmony is not fully true if you see last starting line up Real Madrid against Athletic Bilbao, Vinicius played at the early minutes and seem Xabi Alonso fully trust with him for this season.
If can't renew Vinicius's contract I think Madrid must looking for new left winger players and its difficult how qualities and consistent performance from Vinicius have contributed many goal for Madrid.
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December 04, 2025, 07:50:50 AM
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Real Madrid still not announce new green light for negotiation new contract with Vinicius Jr already expiring at June 2027, just one season left if can't reach agreement deal the players has chance will leave Madrid as free agent players. Salary demand its main problem why negotiation not reach agreement deal yet until right now and Vinicius Jr asking increase his salary than current active contract. Talking about lack harmony is not fully true if you see last starting line up Real Madrid against Athletic Bilbao, Vinicius played at the early minutes and seem Xabi Alonso fully trust with him for this season.
If can't renew Vinicius's contract I think Madrid must looking for new left winger players and its difficult how qualities and consistent performance from Vinicius have contributed many goal for Madrid.
With the way things are playing out in this vinicius juniors contract, it's very obvious that real Madrid is preparing for his departure, the hierarchy of the club backs the coach, xabi Alonso more than the player, so as long as xabi Alonso is the manager of real Madrid, he will be the one that may decide if vinicius junior is going to stay or not, but the direction all these are pointing to is that they will definitely not budge on his demands, is either he accepts what he was offered earlier on that he rejected or he will be sold before his contract runs out. Why real Madrid have not done anything yet is that they are just monitoring the situation to know how much they can get with this deal if they decide to sell him a season time, but it's becoming clear that he is at the beginning of his last days as a player of real Madrid.

 
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December 04, 2025, 08:39:50 AM
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A new update on Vinicius Junior's situation at Real Madrid. It seems like he still has problems that aren't solved there. I assume that is related to a new contract with a big raise in salary...  Tongue

At first we heard that he wants to make money as much as Mbappe. However there isn't actually a big gap between their base salaries now. Mbappe gets 31 million euros a year while it is 25 million for Vinicius Junior.

https://www.capology.com/club/real-madrid/salaries/

It goes up to 71 million for Mbappe on the condition that he gets the bonuses.
I'll be honest: I think it's always sad when a young player leaves Europe to go play in Saudi Arabia because he wants to earn more money
Yes, it's sad seeing a young and talented player leaving Europe to go play in Saudi Arabia, but anytime I remember some of these young players who are leaving Europe to go play in Saudi Arabia are from poor families, I don't really blame them because they are playing in Saudi Arabia so that they can eradicate poverty from their families.

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December 04, 2025, 08:41:01 AM
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His contribution to Real Madrid has been significant, and although his goal-scoring quality has declined compared to recent seasons, Vinicius' presence on the team is significant, and I'm confident Real Madrid won't let him go. Salary demands may be a slight obstacle in contract extension negotiations, as Vinicius is asking for a higher salary increase than Real Madrid is offering, even though his current contract runs until 2027. Several sources I've read suggest the biggest issue right now is his lack of harmony with Xabi Alonso, which has hampered the contract talks which Real Madrid is trying to extend until 2030.
So, what steps are Real Madrid management currently taking to resolve this issue so Vinicius can stay at Real Madrid for longer? If Real Madrid insists on keeping Vinicius beyond the season you mentioned, they will certainly find a way to ensure Vinicius stays and avoid further clashes with Alonso as his coach. But if Real Madrid already has a replacement for Vinicius after his contract with Real Madrid ends, perhaps what is happening at this time does not need to be resolved, although it needs to be conditioned well so that there are no bad results that impact the Real Madrid team.

There is no way a house will be in crisis and then the impacts will not be felt I think what the management of real Madrid needs to do is to put there house in other let the coach settle his scores with vinicius I dont think the issue is beyond being addressed and resolved so weather or not he intends to stay after the contract let there issues be resolved especially now that it hasn't started affecting the teams general performance because it will certainly do if nothing is done about it

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December 04, 2025, 08:49:27 AM
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His contribution to Real Madrid has been significant, and although his goal-scoring quality has declined compared to recent seasons, Vinicius' presence on the team is significant, and I'm confident Real Madrid won't let him go. Salary demands may be a slight obstacle in contract extension negotiations, as Vinicius is asking for a higher salary increase than Real Madrid is offering, even though his current contract runs until 2027. Several sources I've read suggest the biggest issue right now is his lack of harmony with Xabi Alonso, which has hampered the contract talks which Real Madrid is trying to extend until 2030.
Real Madrid still not announce new green light for negotiation new contract with Vinicius Jr already expiring at June 2027, just one season left if can't reach agreement deal the players has chance will leave Madrid as free agent players. Salary demand its main problem why negotiation not reach agreement deal yet until right now and Vinicius Jr asking increase his salary than current active contract. Talking about lack harmony is not fully true if you see last starting line up Real Madrid against Athletic Bilbao, Vinicius played at the early minutes and seem Xabi Alonso fully trust with him for this season.
If can't renew Vinicius's contract I think Madrid must looking for new left winger players and its difficult how qualities and consistent performance from Vinicius have contributed many goal for Madrid.

Based on following the news about the two of them so far, I am convinced that both will actually soon become former players and that it is only a matter of time before they leave Real and Liverpool. First of all, we need to put into proper perspective the amount of their astronomical salaries and their actual contribution to their club recently. Salah no longer plays at the level he used to, he has become a selfish player who does not cooperate enough with other players, especially the new star Wirtz. And what can be said about Vinicius and his immature behavior lately, his anger when the coach substitutes him, and his current contribution in Real's matches? For both clubs, the best decision will be to sell them while they can still get some good money for them because they have become a burden for their clubs and their current performances do not justify their astronomical salaries.

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December 04, 2025, 12:39:25 PM
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Based on following the news about the two of them so far, I am convinced that both will actually soon become former players and that it is only a matter of time before they leave Real and Liverpool. First of all, we need to put into proper perspective the amount of their astronomical salaries and their actual contribution to their club recently. Salah no longer plays at the level he used to, he has become a selfish player who does not cooperate enough with other players, especially the new star Wirtz. And what can be said about Vinicius and his immature behavior lately, his anger when the coach substitutes him, and his current contribution in Real's matches? For both clubs, the best decision will be to sell them while they can still get some good money for them because they have become a burden for their clubs and their current performances do not justify their astronomical salaries.
With Vinicius if you just look at clips you see a guy with a lot of shouting at refs pissed off when he's subbed body language all over the place. Easy to say "immature, sell him". But the story of the pitch is: Madrid changed the game around him.

Under Ancelotti he lived into that left half-space, high up the pitch, 1v1 vs full-backs, all built to feed him. Under Alonso, Mbappe is the owner of that zone now. Vini's getting the ball deeper and wider, have to dribble 20-30 metres just to get to the spots that he used to start in. So yeah, his goals dropped but he's still one of the most involved wingers in the league. It's not as if he stopped working, it's because the type of work changed and end product naturally dipped.

Off the pitch, the contract war is making it worse. He wants Mbappet money and some loyalty bonus. Madrid basically said to him, "you're elite but not that elite" and put the talks on hold until after the 2026 World Cup where they began lining up Nico Williams as a "system winger" to replace him. If I was him I'd feel my status crashing in on me too.

Do I think he will be sold in the next 18 months? Yeah, probably. Do I think he's just a dead weight? No. He's a top player in the wrong position, on a club that's already emotionally moved on.


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December 04, 2025, 01:18:27 PM
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With Vinicius if you just look at clips you see a guy with a lot of shouting at refs pissed off when he's subbed body language all over the place. Easy to say "immature, sell him". But the story of the pitch is: Madrid changed the game around him.

Under Ancelotti he lived into that left half-space, high up the pitch, 1v1 vs full-backs, all built to feed him. Under Alonso, Mbappe is the owner of that zone now. Vini's getting the ball deeper and wider, have to dribble 20-30 metres just to get to the spots that he used to start in. So yeah, his goals dropped but he's still one of the most involved wingers in the league. It's not as if he stopped working, it's because the type of work changed and end product naturally dipped.

Off the pitch, the contract war is making it worse. He wants Mbappet money and some loyalty bonus. Madrid basically said to him, "you're elite but not that elite" and put the talks on hold until after the 2026 World Cup where they began lining up Nico Williams as a "system winger" to replace him. If I was him I'd feel my status crashing in on me too.

Do I think he will be sold in the next 18 months? Yeah, probably. Do I think he's just a dead weight? No. He's a top player in the wrong position, on a club that's already emotionally moved on.

Looking at his stats you can tell he's in a good form and worthy of being signed by any big club but character wise nah, some clubs might reject signing him sincecthey won't want someone that's full of drama in their team. I think that the problem of Vini Jnr started when Mbappe came into the team, Vini wants to be seen as the overall star player and given lots of respect but he should show more working and earn his respect and more wage like Mbappe is doing currently.

 Most of these players got this pride that makes them feel they're untouchable but I think he'll learn the hard way when he fails to secure a deal elsewhere and the club sign a younger player that would comfortably replace him, he should learn from the likes of Modric, Ronaldo and rest who enjoyed their career in the club and left peacefully without having issues with the management.

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December 04, 2025, 01:23:59 PM
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I'll be honest: I think it's always sad when a young player leaves Europe to go play in Saudi Arabia because he wants to earn more money but in this case, taking into consideration Vinicius as a person, I won't miss him.
I don’t think any young player is even suppose to leave Europe and go to Saudi Arabia league. As a young talented player, you are not suppose to go after money, you should focus more on your career, most players going to Saudi league are just doing that just because of money. We all know Saudi is really paying players well, and that’s what they using to get player’s attention, but as a young player, if you decide to join Saudi league, then you killing your career just because of money.

Am not against players going to Saudi league, but even if you will be doing that, then it should be when you are about to retire from football. Saudi league has less attention, so as a player growing, if you decide to join the league, then you going to be making money, but you going to be killing your career.

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December 04, 2025, 02:31:51 PM
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I'll be honest: I think it's always sad when a young player leaves Europe to go play in Saudi Arabia because he wants to earn more money but in this case, taking into consideration Vinicius as a person, I won't miss him.
I don’t think any young player is even suppose to leave Europe and go to Saudi Arabia league. As a young talented player, you are not suppose to go after money, you should focus more on your career, most players going to Saudi league are just doing that just because of money. We all know Saudi is really paying players well, and that’s what they using to get player’s attention, but as a young player, if you decide to join Saudi league, then you killing your career just because of money.

Am not against players going to Saudi league, but even if you will be doing that, then it should be when you are about to retire from football. Saudi league has less attention, so as a player growing, if you decide to join the league, then you going to be making money, but you going to be killing your career.
Well, everyone has their own ideology, understanding or belief but for me I think differently about this whole Saudi Arabia issue.
I continue to ask this question about what they play in Saudi Arabia. Some of us speak as if is not football they play their, maybe every player that goes to Saudi Arabia automatically joins oil company and stops playing.

To me, any player that does not have the ability to win ballon d'Or in the future should gladly go to Saudi Arabia and make good money out of football. In fact it is possible to play alongside Ronaldo and other stars every week in Saudi Arabia.
The only exception I have is for players that have the capability to win the ballon d'Or. In this category vinicius Junior falls under it. So I am not surprised that he's alleged to move to Saudi is making alot of waves.

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December 04, 2025, 03:17:37 PM
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So, what steps are Real Madrid management currently taking to resolve this issue so Vinicius can stay at Real Madrid for longer? If Real Madrid insists on keeping Vinicius beyond the season you mentioned, they will certainly find a way to ensure Vinicius stays and avoid further clashes with Alonso as his coach. But if Real Madrid already has a replacement for Vinicius after his contract with Real Madrid ends, perhaps what is happening at this time does not need to be resolved, although it needs to be conditioned well so that there are no bad results that impact the Real Madrid team.
Real Madrid is not a team that is easily interfered with by its players, Florentino Perez is also known to be very firm and does not hesitate to release players who are difficult to manage or are considered to disrupt team harmony. Actually, Vinicius demands are very reasonable because his contribution to the club is very large, if both parties do not find an agreement to resolve this case, maybe Xabi Alonso will try to shift Mbappe to his original position currently occupied by Vinicius and try to find another number 9 striker who suits the club's needs.
Vinicius also needs to be more patient and not be ambitious about salary increases. Real Madrid is the best club for him. If he stays for a long time, maybe he will win more titles and can realize his dream of becoming the best player in the world.

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December 04, 2025, 03:40:22 PM
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Real Madrid is not a team that is easily interfered with by its players, Florentino Perez is also known to be very firm and does not hesitate to release players who are difficult to manage or are considered to disrupt team harmony. Actually, Vinicius demands are very reasonable because his contribution to the club is very large, if both parties do not find an agreement to resolve this case, maybe Xabi Alonso will try to shift Mbappe to his original position currently occupied by Vinicius and try to find another number 9 striker who suits the club's needs.
The actual fact is that for this to linger to this extent, it shows that real Madrid does not rate him that high as vinicius sees himself, that is why they are not ready to give in to his demands.
As a neutral fan looking from afar, I believes that he deserves what he is asking for, because his contribution to the team has been immense, but since the hierarchy of real Madrid doesn't feels like he deserves so much, they might cash in on him once he has just a year left to the expiration of his contract, but from now till then, let's just watch out to see if things can change to the better.

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December 04, 2025, 03:41:53 PM
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A new update on Vinicius Junior's situation at Real Madrid. It seems like he still has problems that aren't solved there. I assume that is related to a new contract with a big raise in salary...  Tongue
Based on Vinicius Jnr's performance last night against Athletic Bilbao it is obvious that the Brazilian is in good spirits and might end up landing a lucrative deal better than what he already has at Real Madrid, Vini is still a very important player for Real Madrid and am sure that both Xabi Alonso and Florentino Perez recognises this and would do everything possible to retain him for as long as possible .

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December 04, 2025, 03:54:44 PM
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A new update on Vinicius Junior's situation at Real Madrid. It seems like he still has problems that aren't solved there. I assume that is related to a new contract with a big raise in salary...  Tongue
Based on Vinicius Jnr's performance last night against Athletic Bilbao it is obvious that the Brazilian is in good spirits and might end up landing a lucrative deal better than what he already has at Real Madrid, Vini is still a very important player for Real Madrid and am sure that both Xabi Alonso and Florentino Perez recognises this and would do everything possible to retain him for as long as possible .

Vinicius Jr was Real Madrid best player before the arrival of Kylian Mbappe. Everything changed when the Frenchman arrived at Santiago Bernabéu, therefore his presence posing threat for Vinicius Jr for no longer been the face of Real Madrid. Florentino Pérez and Xabi Alonso will worked together to resolved whatever issue Vinicius Jr have with the club and they're planning on exploring matters.

Vinicius Jr have always been the main man and if it happens, he exits, more tougher problems will encounter Real Madrid in the frontline. No doubt Kylian Mbappe will be banging goals for the club but who's also frontline with him? Ofcourse it's Vinicius Jr who also create good chances.

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A new update on Vinicius Junior's situation at Real Madrid. It seems like he still has problems that aren't solved there. I assume that is related to a new contract with a big raise in salary...  Tongue

At first we heard that he wants to make money as much as Mbappe. However there isn't actually a big gap between their base salaries now. Mbappe gets 31 million euros a year while it is 25 million for Vinicius Junior.

https://www.capology.com/club/real-madrid/salaries/

It goes up to 71 million for Mbappe on the condition that he gets the bonuses.
Money is now most important for any player right now, Real Madrid is always a brand in soccer but recently few media reports and personal ego bringing serious trouble just because of this and how things are going, most chances this season is going to be last for Vinícius Jr at Bernabéu.

With this transfer he could have hike in their salary and many bonuses which are enough for having good change likely. After arrival of Xabi Alonso, there were few issues, and because of these things, few players are surely going to be leaving this club and having new destinations for themselves. Rodrygo and Vinícius Jr both are having serious problems and both are going to be out of this club even this could be big lost for them still they can manage with available top-quality players.
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Real Madrid still not announce new green light for negotiation new contract with Vinicius Jr already expiring at June 2027, just one season left if can't reach agreement deal the players has chance will leave Madrid as free agent players. Salary demand its main problem why negotiation not reach agreement deal yet until right now and Vinicius Jr asking increase his salary than current active contract. Talking about lack harmony is not fully true if you see last starting line up Real Madrid against Athletic Bilbao, Vinicius played at the early minutes and seem Xabi Alonso fully trust with him for this season.
If can't renew Vinicius's contract I think Madrid must looking for new left winger players and its difficult how qualities and consistent performance from Vinicius have contributed many goal for Madrid.

I think xabi Alonso is getting good relationship with vini Jr currently and I think he will like to stay in the club and renewa is contract with real madrid, vini Jr is a key player and am sure real madrid will do anything possible to make vini Jr to stay in the club and try to renew is contract. Real Madrid have perform very nice against Athletic Bilbao and if they can continue like this am sure they will get the league trophy this season because the way they perform that is how they start the league but later they started to perform poor but now that they see they have dropped down in the league table they have improved and start to perform very well and continue chasing the league. Vini Jr as contribute very well against Athletic Bilbao and that as show that vini Jr is a good player is the one that is moving the club well and Mbappe. He won't be easy for xabi to leave vini Jr leave the club so easily when they still need him because is helping them very well in the pitch.
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Fenerbahçe is considering signing El Chadaille Bitshiabu as a left center back. They need someone to compete with Oosterwolde. The only problem is that Leipzig doesn't want to sell him. Since he hasn't gotten much playing time this season, they could loan him out for half a year. But in that case, it would be difficult to include a purchase option. Bitshiabu is only 20 years old and shows great promise. Leipzig bought him from PSG for 15 million Euro. If they sell him now, they would need to make a profit. Fenerbahçe cannot afford that amount.
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December 04, 2025, 05:05:57 PM
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Based on Vinicius Jnr's performance last night against Athletic Bilbao it is obvious that the Brazilian is in good spirits and might end up landing a lucrative deal better than what he already has at Real Madrid, Vini is still a very important player for Real Madrid and am sure that both Xabi Alonso and Florentino Perez recognises this and would do everything possible to retain him for as long as possible .
If only his ego weren't so high and his frequent controversies weren't so high, Vinicius might have followed in the footsteps of Brazilian legends like Ronaldo, Rivaldo, and several others. Vinicius possesses extraordinary talent and is a vital asset for Real Madrid, and both Xabi Alonso and Florentino Perez certainly want him to stay at the club. I'm sure Florentino Perez will do everything he can to keep Vinicius, including offering him a new, relatively long contract.
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December 04, 2025, 05:13:42 PM
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I'll be honest: I think it's always sad when a young player leaves Europe to go play in Saudi Arabia because he wants to earn more money but in this case, taking into consideration Vinicius as a person, I won't miss him.
I don’t think any young player is even suppose to leave Europe and go to Saudi Arabia league. As a young talented player, you are not suppose to go after money, you should focus more on your career, most players going to Saudi league are just doing that just because of money. We all know Saudi is really paying players well, and that’s what they using to get player’s attention, but as a young player, if you decide to join Saudi league, then you killing your career just because of money.

Am not against players going to Saudi league, but even if you will be doing that, then it should be when you are about to retire from football. Saudi league has less attention, so as a player growing, if you decide to join the league, then you going to be making money, but you going to be killing your career.
Everyone is different and not everybody actually cares about making a name in football. For many players it's just a job so they simply go wherever they make the most money, whether it's England, Saudi Arabia or China, it doesn't matter. And I think each player should know his real value. For example a player like Retegui did a smart thing accepting to move to Saudi Arabia because he knows he is just a good player and now he is making crazy money. If I were him, I would have done the same. He would have never received offers from Real Madrid, Liverpool, PSG, etc so between playing for Atalanta making 2 millions/year and move to Saudi Arabia and make 20 millions/year the choice was easy.

Vinicius of course could perfectly stay in Europe considering his abilities but he is not honest with himself: he is not as good as Mbappé, he is not the best in the world, therefore he can't ask for that money.

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Just five months after James Trafford joined City. He's now considering to leave from the club. I really understand he has no hope to compete with Donnarumma for the City's first goalie. Pep also did dirty to him. So i think leaving from the club is his best decision.
I know it's such a shame, but it's what it is when a player can compete in a tightening competition for the main place.

He expected to be City's main goalie, but sad his time is not right with when best goalie in that year is also available for transfer.

With Ederson leaving, I've always thought he'd be next in line for goal but Pep Guardiola had other plans as he wanted a specialist who has performed at the highest level. Donnarumma! He did that for then and has seal him place. Immediately his arrival, I knew this was going to happen. I don't know if he's had discussion about FIFA World Cup but it would be grand to see it happening. He needs more game time to improve himself and also stand a chance if Thomas Tuchel is to invite him for the upcoming fifa world cup competition.
Developing him to be City's long term goalie was the first plan. However, it's unexpected to see Donna to parted ways with PSG just after he won everything with that france club. That's why how unlucky Trafford is.
I agree he has to go to get minutes. However, he has not yet got interest from other club.
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