Bitcoin Forum
May 12, 2024, 07:59:39 PM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 27.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: « 1 ... 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 [92] 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 ... 190 »
  Print  
Author Topic: VERITASEUM DISCUSSION THREAD  (Read 250992 times)
azmojo
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 476
Merit: 251



View Profile
July 22, 2017, 12:30:08 AM
 #1821

He said the stock exchange isn't #10, so it's actually a top 9 exchange! Overall, pretty good video for those not familiar with VERI.
He is sitting on news about a big customer.

       ▄▄
     ▄███
    █████
██████████████▄▄
██████████████████▄
███████████████████
█████     ▀▀█████████              ███████████▄    ███████████  ████      ███      ████      ██████████▄     ▄██████████▄
█████         ▀███████             ███▀▀▀▀▀▀▀███   ███▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀  █████     ███     ██████     ███▀▀▀▀▀▀███   ████▀▀▀▀▀▀████
████            ██████             ███        ███  ███          ██████    ███    ███  ███    ███       ██   ███        ███
███▀            ██████             ███        ███  █████████    ███ ███   ███    ███  ███    ███▄▄▄▄▄▄███   ███        ███
█▀              ██████             ███        ███  ███▀▀▀▀▀▀    ███  ███  ███   ███    ███   ██████████▀    ███        ███
                ██████             ███        ███  ███          ███   ███ ███   ██████████   ███  ▀███▄     ███        ███
              ▄███████             ███▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███   ███▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄  ███    ██████  ███▀▀▀▀▀▀███  ███    ▀███▄   ████▄▄▄▄▄▄████
          ▄▄█████████              ███████████▀    ███████████  ███     █████  ███      ███  ███      ▀███   ▀██████████▀
 █████████████████
▄████████████████▀
█████████████▀▀
    █████
    ███▀
    ▀▀
|CRYPTOCURRENCY WALLET AND
WORLDWIDE DEBIT CARDS         ||
                               ▄▄▄▄
                             ▄██████▄
    ██████████████████████████▀ ▄▄ ▀█████████
    ██                     ███  █   ███    ██
  ▄███████████████████████████████████████████▄
 ███████████████████████████████████████████████
████▀                                       ▀████
███                                           ███
███                    ███████▄               ███
███   ▄█████████▄      ██    ▀██        ▄████████
███   ██       ██              ██      ██▀    ███
███   ██  ███  ██              ██      ██  ██ ███
███   ██       ██      ██    ▄██       ██▄    ███
███   ▀█████████▀      ███████▀         ▀████████
███                                           ███
███     ██  ██  ██  ██  ██  ██  ██  ██        ███
███      ██  ██  ██  ██  ██  ██  ██  ██       ███
████▄                                       ▄████
 ███████████████████████████████████████████████
  ▀███████████████████████████████████████████▀
|
1715543979
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1715543979

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1715543979
Reply with quote  #2

1715543979
Report to moderator
Once a transaction has 6 confirmations, it is extremely unlikely that an attacker without at least 50% of the network's computation power would be able to reverse it.
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction.
1715543979
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1715543979

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1715543979
Reply with quote  #2

1715543979
Report to moderator
1715543979
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1715543979

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1715543979
Reply with quote  #2

1715543979
Report to moderator
1715543979
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1715543979

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1715543979
Reply with quote  #2

1715543979
Report to moderator
CryptoIsKey
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 97
Merit: 10


View Profile
July 22, 2017, 01:01:40 AM
 #1822

This may help some new users buy Veri with MyEtherWallet and EtherDelta https://youtu.be/VR4vH6gtLrU
Dorky
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 392
Merit: 250


Best IoT Platform Based on Blockchain


View Profile
July 22, 2017, 06:01:21 AM
Last edit: July 22, 2017, 07:04:44 AM by Dorky
 #1823

So what stock exchange is next? He said top 10. If by value, it's one of these:

NYSE - $18.8T
NASDAQ - $7.5T
Japan - $4.9T
Shanghai - $3.9T
London - $3.6T
Euronext - $3.4T
Shenzen - $3.2T
Hong Kong - $1.9T
TMX Group — $1.9 trillion. ...
Deutsche Boerse — $1.7 trillion. ...


Reggie's latest video said above 2T, and I assume the Chinese and Japanese people are still not receptive to this due to language + English accent barrier, so...

NYSE - $18.8T
NASDAQ - $7.5T
London - $3.6T
Euronext - $3.4T

Let me take a wild guess: Euronext.

Regardless of whichever exchange, I just hope a deal can be finalized asap.


A 2x increase in price is not justified.
Make it 3x.


     
     ██
    ███
  █ ███
 ██ ███
 ██ ███
 ██ ███
 ██ ███
 ██ ███
 ██ ███
 █  ██
   



         ▄▄▄██████████▄▄▄
      ▄████████████████████▄
    ▄████████████████████████▄
   █████▀▀▀▀▀▀███████▀▀▀▀▀▀████
  ██████      ███████      █████
 █████████▌   ███████   █████████
▐█████████▌   ███████   █████████▌
████████                   ███████
▐███████▄▄▄   ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄   ▄▄▄██████▌
 ██████████   ███████   █████████
  ██████▀▀▀   ███████   ▀▀▀█████
   █████      ███████      ████
    ▀████████████████████████▀
      ▀████████████████████▀
         ▀▀▀██████████▀▀▀


 
 ▄▄         ▄▄             ▄▄
▐██▌       ▐██▌           ███▌
▐██▌       ▐██▌     ▄▄▄▄▄▄███▌      ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄     ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
▐██▌       ▐██▌   ▄██████████▌   ▄███████████   ▄██████████
▐█████████████▌  ███▀     ▐██▌  ▐███▀     ███  ▐███▀
▐██▌       ▐██▌ ▐██▌      ▐██▌  ███▌      ███  ███▌
▐██▌       ▐██▌  ███▄     ▐██▌  ▐███▄     ███  ▐███▄
▐██▌       ▐██▌   ▀██████████▌   ▀██████  ███   ▀██████████
▀▀         ▀▀       ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀       ▀▀▀▀  ▀▀▀      ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀


██
███
███
███ ██
███ ██
███ ██
███ ██
███ ██
███ ██
 ██ 
  █

██    Whitepaper    ██
.
██████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
.
FacebookTwitterBitcointalk
Dorky
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 392
Merit: 250


Best IoT Platform Based on Blockchain


View Profile
July 22, 2017, 07:00:44 AM
 #1824

No, you are simply a bagholder now. Forget about those coins and don't think of buying Veritaseum. You will become a bagholder again next year.


Whether VERI's market cap is a scam to you or otherwise is another story, but for you to give false information is a deliberate scam.


     
     ██
    ███
  █ ███
 ██ ███
 ██ ███
 ██ ███
 ██ ███
 ██ ███
 ██ ███
 █  ██
   



         ▄▄▄██████████▄▄▄
      ▄████████████████████▄
    ▄████████████████████████▄
   █████▀▀▀▀▀▀███████▀▀▀▀▀▀████
  ██████      ███████      █████
 █████████▌   ███████   █████████
▐█████████▌   ███████   █████████▌
████████                   ███████
▐███████▄▄▄   ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄   ▄▄▄██████▌
 ██████████   ███████   █████████
  ██████▀▀▀   ███████   ▀▀▀█████
   █████      ███████      ████
    ▀████████████████████████▀
      ▀████████████████████▀
         ▀▀▀██████████▀▀▀


 
 ▄▄         ▄▄             ▄▄
▐██▌       ▐██▌           ███▌
▐██▌       ▐██▌     ▄▄▄▄▄▄███▌      ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄     ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
▐██▌       ▐██▌   ▄██████████▌   ▄███████████   ▄██████████
▐█████████████▌  ███▀     ▐██▌  ▐███▀     ███  ▐███▀
▐██▌       ▐██▌ ▐██▌      ▐██▌  ███▌      ███  ███▌
▐██▌       ▐██▌  ███▄     ▐██▌  ▐███▄     ███  ▐███▄
▐██▌       ▐██▌   ▀██████████▌   ▀██████  ███   ▀██████████
▀▀         ▀▀       ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀       ▀▀▀▀  ▀▀▀      ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀


██
███
███
███ ██
███ ██
███ ██
███ ██
███ ██
███ ██
 ██ 
  █

██    Whitepaper    ██
.
██████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
.
FacebookTwitterBitcointalk
Haddem
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 92
Merit: 10


View Profile
July 22, 2017, 07:13:35 AM
 #1825

No, you are simply a bagholder now. Forget about those coins and don't think of buying Veritaseum. You will become a bagholder again next year.


Whether VERI's market cap is a scam to you or otherwise is another story, but for you to give false information is a deliberate scam.

Ahw don't qoute him dude,  now i have to read is crap too.  Just press ignore  Grin
CryptoXMan
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 119
Merit: 10


View Profile
July 22, 2017, 08:44:19 AM
 #1826

Seriously, Dorky, just stop responding to trolls. 
WeatlhTransfer
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 56
Merit: 0


View Profile
July 22, 2017, 09:06:06 AM
 #1827

No, you are simply a bagholder now. Forget about those coins and don't think of buying Veritaseum. You will become a bagholder again next year.


Whether VERI's market cap is a scam to you or otherwise is another story, but for you to give false information is a deliberate scam.

Ahw don't qoute him dude,  now i have to read is crap too.  Just press ignore  Grin

I second that
illseey
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 55
Merit: 0


View Profile
July 22, 2017, 01:27:38 PM
 #1828

Does anyone know how to convert Ultracoin to Veri?
endchat
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 269
Merit: 250


View Profile
July 22, 2017, 01:29:52 PM
 #1829

Contact Veritaseum (try Masiah), so they can help you convert the old tokens to VERI.
Masiah
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 37
Merit: 0


View Profile WWW
July 22, 2017, 05:02:08 PM
 #1830

Does anyone know how to convert Ultracoin to Veri?
I am converting the old tokens that were on coinprism. Not UTC.
mwall90278
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 17
Merit: 0


View Profile WWW
July 22, 2017, 08:03:34 PM
 #1831

On the video, Reggie Middle mentions the IDENTITY industry as a potential for Veritaseum.

I know a company that appears to be very worth checking out. They are called KROLL.
I work with them through another company I am involved with.

Their claims will hopefully match up with their value and ability.

Let me know if you want me to do a corporate valuation of them.
toknormal
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3066
Merit: 1188


View Profile
July 22, 2017, 10:36:58 PM
Last edit: July 23, 2017, 05:36:51 PM by toknormal
 #1832


So when do the JSE's (and other's) tokens move out of this address and into the Bank of Jamaica's address ?

(Or is the Bank of Jamaica buying into a - more lucrative - equity slice of that address instead, which means the tokens don't have to move).
azmojo
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 476
Merit: 251



View Profile
July 22, 2017, 10:44:55 PM
 #1833


So when do the Bank of Jamaica's tokens move out of this address and into the Bank of Jamaica's address ?

(Or is the Bank of Jamaica buying into a - more lucrative - equity slice of that address instead, which means the tokens don't have to move).

AFAIK, they only have an MOU with the JSE. I don't know that they actually have sold them any VERI or proceeded further on an official basis.

       ▄▄
     ▄███
    █████
██████████████▄▄
██████████████████▄
███████████████████
█████     ▀▀█████████              ███████████▄    ███████████  ████      ███      ████      ██████████▄     ▄██████████▄
█████         ▀███████             ███▀▀▀▀▀▀▀███   ███▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀  █████     ███     ██████     ███▀▀▀▀▀▀███   ████▀▀▀▀▀▀████
████            ██████             ███        ███  ███          ██████    ███    ███  ███    ███       ██   ███        ███
███▀            ██████             ███        ███  █████████    ███ ███   ███    ███  ███    ███▄▄▄▄▄▄███   ███        ███
█▀              ██████             ███        ███  ███▀▀▀▀▀▀    ███  ███  ███   ███    ███   ██████████▀    ███        ███
                ██████             ███        ███  ███          ███   ███ ███   ██████████   ███  ▀███▄     ███        ███
              ▄███████             ███▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███   ███▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄  ███    ██████  ███▀▀▀▀▀▀███  ███    ▀███▄   ████▄▄▄▄▄▄████
          ▄▄█████████              ███████████▀    ███████████  ███     █████  ███      ███  ███      ▀███   ▀██████████▀
 █████████████████
▄████████████████▀
█████████████▀▀
    █████
    ███▀
    ▀▀
|CRYPTOCURRENCY WALLET AND
WORLDWIDE DEBIT CARDS         ||
                               ▄▄▄▄
                             ▄██████▄
    ██████████████████████████▀ ▄▄ ▀█████████
    ██                     ███  █   ███    ██
  ▄███████████████████████████████████████████▄
 ███████████████████████████████████████████████
████▀                                       ▀████
███                                           ███
███                    ███████▄               ███
███   ▄█████████▄      ██    ▀██        ▄████████
███   ██       ██              ██      ██▀    ███
███   ██  ███  ██              ██      ██  ██ ███
███   ██       ██      ██    ▄██       ██▄    ███
███   ▀█████████▀      ███████▀         ▀████████
███                                           ███
███     ██  ██  ██  ██  ██  ██  ██  ██        ███
███      ██  ██  ██  ██  ██  ██  ██  ██       ███
████▄                                       ▄████
 ███████████████████████████████████████████████
  ▀███████████████████████████████████████████▀
|
toknormal
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3066
Merit: 1188


View Profile
July 22, 2017, 11:01:02 PM
Last edit: July 23, 2017, 05:37:04 PM by toknormal
 #1834


AFAIK, they only have an MOU with the JSE. I don't know that they actually have sold them any VERI or proceeded further on an official basis.

Maybe the JSE wants to do due diligence and wait for a measurable ROI - understandable.

A "convergence of will" is always important though. For example I'm sure that during the 60's there was a "convergence of will" between airlines that wanted to buy planes that carried passengers supersonically, for a cheaper than a Viscount per seat mile and the manufacturers who wanted to sell them said planes. Unfortunately that "convergence of will wasn't matched by a convergence of wallets due to a slight problem with the oil price and prevailing oil cartels.

However, Reggie isn't selling supersonic transport so we wait and watch wait said address for evidence of an "institutional sale" (as long as it isn't another address of Reggie's in which case it's contents would of course not count as being "in circulation").

The question is, how can Gliss tell the difference ? Does "the company the Reggie works for" give them regular updates or what ?


azmojo
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 476
Merit: 251



View Profile
July 22, 2017, 11:06:03 PM
 #1835

These things don't happen overnight. I don't know what kind of bureaucracy exists at the JSE, but I'm sure that takes time to work through. Additionally, it has got to take an enormous amount of designing and planning to this implementation which will completely revamp how business is done at the JSE. Be patient.

       ▄▄
     ▄███
    █████
██████████████▄▄
██████████████████▄
███████████████████
█████     ▀▀█████████              ███████████▄    ███████████  ████      ███      ████      ██████████▄     ▄██████████▄
█████         ▀███████             ███▀▀▀▀▀▀▀███   ███▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀  █████     ███     ██████     ███▀▀▀▀▀▀███   ████▀▀▀▀▀▀████
████            ██████             ███        ███  ███          ██████    ███    ███  ███    ███       ██   ███        ███
███▀            ██████             ███        ███  █████████    ███ ███   ███    ███  ███    ███▄▄▄▄▄▄███   ███        ███
█▀              ██████             ███        ███  ███▀▀▀▀▀▀    ███  ███  ███   ███    ███   ██████████▀    ███        ███
                ██████             ███        ███  ███          ███   ███ ███   ██████████   ███  ▀███▄     ███        ███
              ▄███████             ███▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███   ███▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄  ███    ██████  ███▀▀▀▀▀▀███  ███    ▀███▄   ████▄▄▄▄▄▄████
          ▄▄█████████              ███████████▀    ███████████  ███     █████  ███      ███  ███      ▀███   ▀██████████▀
 █████████████████
▄████████████████▀
█████████████▀▀
    █████
    ███▀
    ▀▀
|CRYPTOCURRENCY WALLET AND
WORLDWIDE DEBIT CARDS         ||
                               ▄▄▄▄
                             ▄██████▄
    ██████████████████████████▀ ▄▄ ▀█████████
    ██                     ███  █   ███    ██
  ▄███████████████████████████████████████████▄
 ███████████████████████████████████████████████
████▀                                       ▀████
███                                           ███
███                    ███████▄               ███
███   ▄█████████▄      ██    ▀██        ▄████████
███   ██       ██              ██      ██▀    ███
███   ██  ███  ██              ██      ██  ██ ███
███   ██       ██      ██    ▄██       ██▄    ███
███   ▀█████████▀      ███████▀         ▀████████
███                                           ███
███     ██  ██  ██  ██  ██  ██  ██  ██        ███
███      ██  ██  ██  ██  ██  ██  ██  ██       ███
████▄                                       ▄████
 ███████████████████████████████████████████████
  ▀███████████████████████████████████████████▀
|
toknormal
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3066
Merit: 1188


View Profile
July 22, 2017, 11:24:14 PM
Last edit: July 23, 2017, 05:40:46 PM by toknormal
 #1836


Be patient.

Ok. I'll be patient.

But let's say JSE/Banks of Jamaica and other "institutional investors" make an investment of $400 Million in VERI (not unreasonable given that they did $47 million yesterday alone in foreign currency purchases).

That puts another 2 million VERI into 'circulation' which will send the commonly quoted marketcap to $0.9 Billion (just below IOTA) without any gain reflected in the value of current investors holdings and with still another 94 million tokens in reserve on the blockchain.

How will the existing market view that ?

As a huge shorting opportunity I would have thought.

That's why the only way I see round this is for Reggie not to sell the actual tokens but to sell equity in his 'company' instead which holds the balance of the blockchain supply. That way he can use the minority 'market traded' supply to support the equity value of his company and play both ends of the market (equity and token). Also, any intellectual property that gets developed as part of this project can be owned by the corporate equity holders, not the token holders, so that gives further incentive for 'institutional investors' to go for the equity rather than the tokens.

Just a thought. But that's how I'd be thinking if I was Bank of Jamaica (or Reggie himself for that matter). i.e. a recipe for a "convergence of will" concluding in a "convergence of wallets" Wink
Bitlife.co
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 33
Merit: 0


View Profile
July 23, 2017, 01:07:24 AM
 #1837

Word of the day...VERITIZE!

Respect!   Cheesy
VERITIZE iT! YEAAYAA it is the best thing you can doooo...dont criticiiiize it.. VERATIIIIZE IT! YEAHYA  Grin
codebunss
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 15
Merit: 0


View Profile
July 23, 2017, 01:23:44 AM
 #1838

How is veritasium different from EOS or ETH?
azmojo
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 476
Merit: 251



View Profile
July 23, 2017, 01:32:50 AM
 #1839


Be patient.

Ok. I'll be patient.

But let's say Bank of Jamaica and others make an investment of $400 Million in VERI (not unreasonable given that they did $47 million yesterday alone in foreign currency purchases).

That puts another 2 million VERI into 'circulation' which will send the commonly quoted marketcap to $0.9 Billion (just below IOTA) without any gain reflected in the value of current investors holdings and with still another 94 million tokens in reserve on the blockchain.

How will the existing market view that ?

As a huge shorting opportunity I would have thought.

That's why the only way I see round this is for Reggie not to sell the actual tokens but to sell equity in his 'company' instead which holds the balance of the blockchain supply. That way he can use the minority 'market traded' supply to support the equity value of his company and play both ends of the market (equity and token). Also, any intellectual property that gets developed as part of this project can be owned by the corporate equity holders, not the token holders, so that gives further incentive for 'institutional investors' to go for the equity rather than the tokens.

Just a thought. But that's how I'd be thinking if I was Bank of Jamaica (or Reggie himself for that matter). i.e. a recipe for a "convergence of will" concluding in a "convergence of wallets" Wink
Why would a transfer of VERI from "Reggie's wallet" to JSE's wallet change the supply numbers or supply dynamics? Do you think JSE is buying VERI to turn around and dump them? They are not buying VERI to speculate, they are buying it to use.

Having JSE buy equity of Veritaseum makes no sense, no company operates like that.

       ▄▄
     ▄███
    █████
██████████████▄▄
██████████████████▄
███████████████████
█████     ▀▀█████████              ███████████▄    ███████████  ████      ███      ████      ██████████▄     ▄██████████▄
█████         ▀███████             ███▀▀▀▀▀▀▀███   ███▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀  █████     ███     ██████     ███▀▀▀▀▀▀███   ████▀▀▀▀▀▀████
████            ██████             ███        ███  ███          ██████    ███    ███  ███    ███       ██   ███        ███
███▀            ██████             ███        ███  █████████    ███ ███   ███    ███  ███    ███▄▄▄▄▄▄███   ███        ███
█▀              ██████             ███        ███  ███▀▀▀▀▀▀    ███  ███  ███   ███    ███   ██████████▀    ███        ███
                ██████             ███        ███  ███          ███   ███ ███   ██████████   ███  ▀███▄     ███        ███
              ▄███████             ███▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███   ███▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄  ███    ██████  ███▀▀▀▀▀▀███  ███    ▀███▄   ████▄▄▄▄▄▄████
          ▄▄█████████              ███████████▀    ███████████  ███     █████  ███      ███  ███      ▀███   ▀██████████▀
 █████████████████
▄████████████████▀
█████████████▀▀
    █████
    ███▀
    ▀▀
|CRYPTOCURRENCY WALLET AND
WORLDWIDE DEBIT CARDS         ||
                               ▄▄▄▄
                             ▄██████▄
    ██████████████████████████▀ ▄▄ ▀█████████
    ██                     ███  █   ███    ██
  ▄███████████████████████████████████████████▄
 ███████████████████████████████████████████████
████▀                                       ▀████
███                                           ███
███                    ███████▄               ███
███   ▄█████████▄      ██    ▀██        ▄████████
███   ██       ██              ██      ██▀    ███
███   ██  ███  ██              ██      ██  ██ ███
███   ██       ██      ██    ▄██       ██▄    ███
███   ▀█████████▀      ███████▀         ▀████████
███                                           ███
███     ██  ██  ██  ██  ██  ██  ██  ██        ███
███      ██  ██  ██  ██  ██  ██  ██  ██       ███
████▄                                       ▄████
 ███████████████████████████████████████████████
  ▀███████████████████████████████████████████▀
|
toknormal
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3066
Merit: 1188


View Profile
July 23, 2017, 01:38:09 AM
Last edit: July 23, 2017, 02:39:45 AM by toknormal
 #1840

Why would a transfer of VERI from "Reggie's wallet" to JSE's wallet change the supply numbers or supply dynamics?

I wasn't alluding to market supply, I was talking about blockchain supply and how much of it counts towards "commonly reported" marketcap.

They are 2 distinct metrics.

Having JSE buy equity of Veritaseum makes no sense, no company operates like that.

"Institutional investors" (such as large hedgefunds) are generally prohibited from investing in unregulated markets such as Bitcoin. But if you can create a paper company, then create a token (on the Ethereum blockchain) and find a way to have that company "own" a portion of the blockchain value then you've basically packaged the blockchain asset into an "equity wrapper" which could in fact be digestible by "institutional investors".

That equity packaged token can be far more attractive to investors like Bank for Jamaica for multiple reasons:

[1] By investing in the equity of a company which owns 98% of the blockchain value, they still have huge exposure to the token trading price

[2] They bypass laws that don't let them operate in unregulated markets

[3] They potentially gain exposure to all of the intellectual property associated with the token technology (which token holders do not)

[4] The equity "buffer" passes exposure to downside risk from the equity holder to the "naked" token holders since equity holders retain a holding in their original investment capital which token holders do not

There are also advantages for "Reggie's Company"

[1] He can capitalise it from the ICO markets without loosing any equity (which he would do in VC markets)

[2] He needs to find liquidity for 98 million tokens than he could not find in the ICO market

[3] The tiny traded volume delivers him a price with which to negotiate with potential "institutional investors", but not without risk. So to mitigate that risk for the institutional investor he gives them access through the 'wrapper' which means that their investment is insured to some extent even if the token price crashes

[4] In that way he can further capitalise his company (but this time by compromising equity) from the institutional markets. However the huge abundance of tokens in his possession means he has nothing to loose and has passed the entire project risk to the token investor primarily and the institutional investor secondarily

The reason for the low initial offering was to mitigate the risk for small investors at the ICO stage. He had to do this to get some investment in at all costs otherwise there would have been no quotable market price for the tokens as an asset.

Those with most to loose therefore are "naked" token investors who invest now. They will carry the risk on behalf of:

 • Initial investors
 • "Reggies company"
 • Institutional Investors (who invest in the token asset through the "Reggie & Co" Equity wrapper)

Of course I am making assumptions here because we don't really know what the genuine business plan is behind this ICO. But either way, anyone investing in the "2%" market now will be checkmated into holding all the risk by the three groups above as far as I can see.
Pages: « 1 ... 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 [92] 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 ... 190 »
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!