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January 16, 2014, 07:28:17 AM |
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Add option is much more complex. now I've changed it to break price.
Great! This was fast! Get this man another drink! (sent) Thank you!
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January 16, 2014, 07:31:04 AM |
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now I've changed it to break price.
Thanks! My "vertically shift" suggestion was to format it as follows except with smaller dots (or dashes) between the two columns... As for which end of the interval is open or closed: it will be confusing to readers either way, so it is indifferent. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) The Salomonic solution is to split orders that are eactly equal to the break price (say 4850) and count half their volume on each side of it (half above and half below 4850). But this solution may be even more confusing to readers... However, the criterion should be symmetric around the spread, since one usually reads the asks upwards and the bids downwards. Thanks again, and all the best. I have no idea the most of people like tidy orderbook or humanized orderbook. and it is not nessecary, so I still keep it in current style.
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January 16, 2014, 09:06:33 AM |
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Any chance of getting a response to my post? I find it hard to believe that I'm the only one who'd like to see this implemented? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . . . If there was one "improvement" or enhancement I could suggest though, that would be to address those miniscual "noise" bids/offers that traders make to push other serious bids/offers off of the visible view of 15 bids/offers. You know what I'm referring to? My suggestion is to make their miniscual bids/offers disappear completely by having a checkbox for example with "show only bids/offers > 1", "show only bids/offers > 10 etc.. If a particular chechbox is checked, then you remove all bids/offers below that particular volume, and in this way only bids/offers of the relative minimum volume magnitude are shown. I think this would be a wonderful enhancement to this already amazing app! And it would also go a long way in neutralising the sabotage attempts of those who attempt to "hog" the bid/offer view windows with their pathetically small volume noise. Let's face it - if one wants to buy or sell 1000 litecoins - for example - you really DO NOT want to see consecutive bids/offers for 0.0001 ltc - 0.00001 cent apart - being shown and thereby hiding all the serious volumes on offer below that do you? I know i certainly don't ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I think it is helpful too. the feature will be supported. Thank you so much! I look very much forward to its implementation ...
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January 16, 2014, 03:22:16 PM |
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Another observation:
The plots of the main indicators (running means) look displaced from the actual price plots. The reason is that a mean price that is computed from data up to a certain time is "logically located" at some earlier time, which is the mean of the weight indices.
Specifically, suppose a mean price V is computed by V = SUM{ W(k)*P(t-k) : k in 0..N-1 }, where P(i) is the price at time i and W(0..N-1) are weights that add to 1. Then V should be plotted at time t - m where m = SUM{ W(k)*k : k in 0..N-1 }.
If the weights are positive (say, uniform 1/N or exponentially decreasing) then m is positive, so the plot should be displaced to the right. In that case, the indicator V is in fact using data up to time t to "predict" a price in the past, namely P(t-m).
To get a true predictor for the price P(t+1), one must use positive and negative weights that still add to 1 but are such that the mean index m, as defined above, is -1 For example W(0)=2 and W(1)=-1 will give the simplest (two-point) linear extrapolation predictor. The mean V computed with these weights should then be plotted at time t+1 rather than t.
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January 16, 2014, 03:35:01 PM |
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The plots of the main indicators (running means) look displaced from the actual price plots. The reason is that a mean price that is computed from data up to a certain time is "logically located" at some earlier time
That's how they are defined (and used everywhere), so that's also how they are plotted. If you shift the plots backwards in time its no longer what a trader would expect to see when he is told that this is a simple moving average (SMA) or exponential moving average (EMA), it would be an entirely different indicator. It would be possible but then it wouldn't be the good old well known SMA or EMA anymore.
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January 16, 2014, 05:01:26 PM Last edit: January 16, 2014, 05:24:15 PM by CoolStoryBro |
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For some time bitcoinwisdom.com worked on my mobile phone, but now it's not working again
tested browsers: Mozzila, Dolphin browser, BoatBrowser Android ver. 2.3.6
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January 16, 2014, 05:32:36 PM |
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Hi,
first of all i really love your site. As a software developer myself I definitely appreciate the way you are doing things! The site is snappy as fuck, you do a lot of fixing and enhancing and i really like that.
But i'd like to ask you a favour. Could you please publish a dataset of your users? I mean something like this:
- How many users are using the site on daily bases - How many people look at 2h charts - How many people look at EMAs and which parameters do they have set? - How many people use parameter x - Where are your users from? Only US and Europe, but do also use chinese this site?
etc.
I think this would clear a lot of debates about how useful technical analysis for bitcoin is for example.
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January 16, 2014, 10:15:51 PM |
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the order book / depth chart is broken for (at least) mtgox: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FhKbf9nR.png&t=665&c=CZ5oCw39L3kyZg)
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JorgeStolfi
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January 17, 2014, 10:21:22 PM |
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I suppose that the current format for the order book summary is somewhat standard, but I think that it would be more useful if it were provided in "reverse" form.
Currently, it shows how much bid/ask volume there is down/up to certain "round" prices, multiples of a fixed step, such as 4850, 4900, 4950, 5000, ....
The proposed alternative is to show what price would be reached by selling/buying certain "round" amounts of BTC: 10, 20, 50 100, 200, 500, 1000...
That is, this "reverse" order book summary would look like
... 4867 100 4830 50 4815 20 4807 10
4803.22
4795 10 4788 20 4772 50 4721 100 ...
or with the columns reversed, like this:
... 100 4867 50 4830 20 4815 10 4807
4803.22
10 4795 20 4788 50 4772 100 4721 ...
It may be useful also to have those prices plotted on the main chart as alternative indicators ("order book altitude contours") instead of the running averages).
It would have to be an option, I suppose.
What do you think?
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January 18, 2014, 02:24:34 AM |
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Do the objects on the website (Chart, Orderbook, etc.) have a somewhat stable API that could be officially documented, so that it would be possible to inject client side JavaScript (via Greasemonkey) to create custom indicators and other useful things (alarms, trading bots, etc.)?
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BitcoinWisdom (OP)
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January 18, 2014, 05:55:28 AM |
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For some time bitcoinwisdom.com worked on my mobile phone, but now it's not working again
tested browsers: Mozzila, Dolphin browser, BoatBrowser Android ver. 2.3.6
It works here, maybe there is net issue at time. Is it still not working?
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BitcoinWisdom (OP)
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January 18, 2014, 06:05:54 AM |
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the order book / depth chart is broken for (at least) mtgox:
Thank you for your report. The bug is fixed.
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BitcoinWisdom (OP)
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January 18, 2014, 06:44:02 AM |
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I suppose that the current format for the order book summary is somewhat standard, but I think that it would be more useful if it were provided in "reverse" form.
Currently, it shows how much bid/ask volume there is down/up to certain "round" prices, multiples of a fixed step, such as 4850, 4900, 4950, 5000, ....
The proposed alternative is to show what price would be reached by selling/buying certain "round" amounts of BTC: 10, 20, 50 100, 200, 500, 1000...
It may be useful also to have those prices plotted on the main chart as alternative indicators ("order book altitude contours") instead of the running averages).
It would have to be an option, I suppose.
What do you think?
Because it will increase orderbook complex a lot, I'm afraid it is not enough worth to support it.
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BitcoinWisdom (OP)
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January 18, 2014, 07:12:04 AM |
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Do the objects on the website (Chart, Orderbook, etc.) have a somewhat stable API that could be officially documented, so that it would be possible to inject client side JavaScript (via Greasemonkey) to create custom indicators and other useful things (alarms, trading bots, etc.)?
It's not the time to open the API to public yet. We won't block the IP who called our API directly for personal use in most of situations. the API is not stable though it haven't been changed for long time, it maybe changed someday when new interface implemented.
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January 18, 2014, 02:40:31 PM |
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Wanted to say thanks for a great, great chart. So, thanks. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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January 18, 2014, 02:55:05 PM |
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How does one go about advertising on bitcoinwisdom? I'd like to purchase ad space on the site.
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January 19, 2014, 02:40:16 AM |
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First of all, I want to say, I LOVE YOUR SITE. By far the best trading chart on the web, bar none. I do have a request though, if you have time to do it/want to. Add a alert/sound for different user set variables. Could be just for one reason or many. For example; - when 'x' crosses 'y' - when price hits 'v' amount - when volume surpasses 'w' - also on the indicators (MACD, etc.) - etc. Like I said, just a suggestion. And no matter what, you still have the best site out there. Cheers and have a good one! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) *edit: grammar
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January 19, 2014, 07:12:45 AM |
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@BitcoinWisdom: Would it be possible to make the timeline, as well as the date&time display (cursor), seamless? So, when the whole chart is beeing pushed to the left (i.e. when doing a chart analysis / forecast) the date will still continue (to the future)? That's the only thing that bugs me when using your incredible site! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Keep up the great work!
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January 19, 2014, 12:42:10 PM |
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For some time bitcoinwisdom.com worked on my mobile phone, but now it's not working again
tested browsers: Mozzila, Dolphin browser, BoatBrowser Android ver. 2.3.6
It works here, maybe there is net issue at time. Is it still not working? its working now
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January 19, 2014, 09:52:49 PM |
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Love the site. Currently the only ones I am using.
I've read this entire thread, and so I know it may not be efficient for you to add this, but I'm putting it out there so at least you know there is a demand.
The btcjpy (not listed in markets) does not have an orderbook. That is, there are no candles, nothing in the order history, it starts out blank. If I leave it open, incoming orders DO show up, and fill chart/orderbook, but of course a complete view would be very helpful.
I'm not sure if this would reduce scan, but golly would it be great if the basics were working for btcjpy. I understand if its not something you want to implement, though I'm surprised its not more popular given its the only currency one can efficiently withdraw from The Gawks. Hopefully no one here is actually trying to withdraw USD from there...?
Endless praise for your site. I don't know how to code but I'd love to be able to do what you do. Your orderbook loading times are clutch. I trade based on your orderbooks.
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