Should I cancel my BFL 4/2/2013 Order?

[PuertoLibre]

Want to see something really sad?

This is what BFL introduced at CES 2013...at about January or February 2013...some 3 or 4 months after customers were supposed to get their devices.

THIS IS NO JOKE!



What? You don't believe me do you? Okay, here is a video I found in about five seconds on Youtube showing the case of fans at CES (with cover on).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujl-_F7D724

Guess what? Yeah, I pulled up the video in Youtube by these search terms: "CES Box of Fans"

Yes, I am not kidding...go try it out yourself.

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[PuertoLibre]

Want a shortcut?
Sure follow the link:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=BFL+CES&oq=BFL+CES

[Xian01]

Want to see something really sad?
This is what BFL introduced at CES 2013...at about January or February 2013...some 3 or 4 months after customers were supposed to get their devices.
THIS IS NO JOKE!

 That is indeed sad and embarrassing   But I guess when you inherently have no concept of shame...

 At least Josh did recently admit that their ceasing production of FPGA units was a mistake in retrospect - Smartest thing the man has said this year so far.

[Bicknellski]

Is it me or are Smoothie and Puerto Libre's ignore icon's getting LESS yellow in inverse proportion to the number of days and weeks BFL fails to ship?

[smoothie]

This is best Josh and BFL box of fans video yet; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4SnUObMd0o

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Notice what Josh has in his hands. Even though we can't see it, you probably can safely assume it's a quarter for Bryan, accompanied with a well-rehearsed line involving a clue. I believe Josh got the entire idea from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFH4DszUj2A

Pay special attention to ~1:24.

[SLok]

I skimmed,

I don't think I have ever posted in that section. All I saw was a wrenchmonkey getting bent over a table by other community members about his comments in support of BFL.

I guess blowing smoke is all you have left. Kinda sad....

The sadness is on you, man> BFL's empty box was obviously a joke, you on the other hand:

Don't worry Puerto you will eventually get your Avalon once they start building them.
Now they have the funds from batch #2 to pay for them it shouldn't be too long now..........

I think everyone is waiting for this kind of notice!

Besides, what's with the advertising for BFL through your sig?
"I think it's fair to warn everybody reading here that MORE PREORDERS should be placed until they are READY to.. etc"?? More pre-orders should be placed?

Come on, only 38 out of your last 40 posts are about BFL, you can do better.

[jordaninthesky]

Besides, what's with the advertising for BFL through your sig?
"I think it's fair to warn everybody reading here that MORE PREORDERS should be placed until they are READY to.. etc"?? More pre-orders should be placed?

Come on, only 38 out of your last 40 posts are about BFL, you can do better.

How can you be willing to be so ignorant?  I know sarcasm generally has a hard time being communicated over the internet, but that sig just screamed it.

Also, people aren't allowed to talk about the negative aspects of BFL in BFL forums, unless they get banned or punished.  So it happens here, for anyone wondering about BFL's connection to bitcoin.

Like nature intended.

[bitpop]

Well I got banned from butterfly forums
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=208466.0

[Xian01]

Well I got banned from butterfly forums
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=208466.0

 We should start a club !

[PuertoLibre]

I skimmed,

I don't think I have ever posted in that section. All I saw was a wrenchmonkey getting bent over a table by other community members about his comments in support of BFL.

I guess blowing smoke is all you have left. Kinda sad....

The sadness is on you, man> BFL's empty box was obviously a joke, you on the other hand:

Don't worry Puerto you will eventually get your Avalon once they start building them.
Now they have the funds from batch #2 to pay for them it shouldn't be too long now..........

I think everyone is waiting for this kind of notice!

Besides, what's with the advertising for BFL through your sig?
"I think it's fair to warn everybody reading here that MORE PREORDERS should be placed until they are READY to.. etc"?? More pre-orders should be placed?

Come on, only 38 out of your last 40 posts are about BFL, you can do better.

That was a clipping from JGarziks DHL tracking number. I couldn't post all of it because it has his info on it.

So when I said everyone is waiting for this, yeah, everyone is. If you all interpreted in some twisted way then please seek a psychiatrist or local psychoanalyst.

[PuertoLibre]

Now I finally do understand what you guys thought. That Avalon had shipped mine at that time? Strange idea but okay.

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Alright, Slok,

Lets go with your twisted perception of what my post meant. How would your perception of my action be any different than BFL shipping a handful of prototype units to reviewers and non-customers while stating they are starting shipping? (just after they admit that Paypal is waving a proverbial threatening stick at them for not having shipped)

Making two blog posts on their forum that they have "shipped out units" and then...stating they won't be bothering to continue stating how many are going out each day. (Just when the number of prototypes ran out!)

Tell me...there is no false pretense being weaved...please say it to me....

Can you explain to me which is the bigger fraud? My posting of a part of JGarziks DHL notice and saying everyone is waiting to see this kind of notice. Or BFL shipping a few prototypes to some people who hadn't even ordered them just to make it seem like they have something to ship...or make appearances that they are about to ship en masse....only to then stop for well close to a month when they ran out of protoypes? (35 units)

Tell me, which is far more deceptive?

[Henchman24]

Now I finally do understand what you guys thought. That Avalon had shipped mine at that time? Strange idea but okay.

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Alright, Slok,

Lets go with your twisted perception of what my post meant. How would your perception of my action be any different than BFL shipping a handful of prototype units to reviewers and non-customers while stating they are starting shipping? (just after they admit that Paypal is waving a threatening stick at them for not having shipped)

Making two blog posts on their forum that they have "shipped out units" and then...stating they won't be bothering to continue stating how many are going out each day. (Just when the number of prototypes ran out!)

Telly me there is no false pretense being weaved...please say it to me....

Can you explain to me which is the bigger fraud? My posting of a part of JGarziks DHL notice and saying everyone is waiting to see this kind of notice. Or BFL shipping a few prototypes to some people who hadn't even ordered them just to make it seem like they have something to ship...or make appearances that they are about to ship en masse....only to then stop for well close to a month when they ran out of protoypes?

Tell me, which is far more deceptive?

Mining with a customer's ASIC is more deceptive.  By a long shot.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141154.msg2175901#msg2175901

[PuertoLibre]

Now I finally do understand what you guys thought. That Avalon had shipped mine at that time? Strange idea but okay.

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Alright, Slok,

Lets go with your twisted perception of what my post meant. How would your perception of my action be any different than BFL shipping a handful of prototype units to reviewers and non-customers while stating they are starting shipping? (just after they admit that Paypal is waving a threatening stick at them for not having shipped)

Making two blog posts on their forum that they have "shipped out units" and then...stating they won't be bothering to continue stating how many are going out each day. (Just when the number of prototypes ran out!)

Telly me there is no false pretense being weaved...please say it to me....

Can you explain to me which is the bigger fraud? My posting of a part of JGarziks DHL notice and saying everyone is waiting to see this kind of notice. Or BFL shipping a few prototypes to some people who hadn't even ordered them just to make it seem like they have something to ship...or make appearances that they are about to ship en masse....only to then stop for well close to a month when they ran out of protoypes?

Tell me, which is far more deceptive?

Mining with a customer's ASIC is more deceptive.  By a long shot.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141154.msg2175901#msg2175901

Are you aware that all units are tested prior to shipment? You can't make the leap that they have been tested on mainnet simply because the unit is filled with dust. It's a long extension even for a shill from BFL.

His was damaged and he definitely needs a replacement, ASAP.

[Schrankwand]

Now I finally do understand what you guys thought. That Avalon had shipped mine at that time? Strange idea but okay.

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Alright, Slok,

Lets go with your twisted perception of what my post meant. How would your perception of my action be any different than BFL shipping a handful of prototype units to reviewers and non-customers while stating they are starting shipping? (just after they admit that Paypal is waving a threatening stick at them for not having shipped)

Making two blog posts on their forum that they have "shipped out units" and then...stating they won't be bothering to continue stating how many are going out each day. (Just when the number of prototypes ran out!)

Telly me there is no false pretense being weaved...please say it to me....

Can you explain to me which is the bigger fraud? My posting of a part of JGarziks DHL notice and saying everyone is waiting to see this kind of notice. Or BFL shipping a few prototypes to some people who hadn't even ordered them just to make it seem like they have something to ship...or make appearances that they are about to ship en masse....only to then stop for well close to a month when they ran out of protoypes?

Tell me, which is far more deceptive?

Mining with a customer's ASIC is more deceptive.  By a long shot.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141154.msg2175901#msg2175901

Are you aware that all units are tested prior to shipment? You can't make the leap that they have been tested on mainnet simply because the unit is filled with dust. It's a long extension even for a shill from BFL.

His was damaged and he definitely needs a replacement, ASAP.

Weren't they supposed to be delivered with the innards covered also?

It looks like an intercept and someone having fun with it to me... and then bad packaging which led to destruction...

[Henchman24]

Are you aware that all units are tested prior to shipment? You can't make the leap that they have been tested on mainnet simply because the unit is filled with dust. It's a long extension even for a shill from BFL.

His was damaged and he definitely needs a replacement, ASAP.

Where are they doing this testing, the local rock quarry?  

That is weeks worth of dust.

[minternj]

Who cares if avalon tested on the main chain. They are giving you a magic money machine. It's like getting mad at the lotto for winning 550 mill but having to pay half for lump sum then another half for taxes. You still getting more than you put in(eventually). People really need to change their expectations for asic companies.

[k9quaint]

Are you aware that all units are tested prior to shipment? You can't make the leap that they have been tested on mainnet simply because the unit is filled with dust. It's a long extension even for a shill from BFL.

His was damaged and he definitely needs a replacement, ASAP.

Where are they doing this testing, the local rock quarry?  

That is weeks worth of dust.
http://s21.postimg.org/h2pga4yxi/005.jpg

Actually, that is one week's worth of dust on my equipment if I leave my back garage door open for ventilation during the day. I go through a can of compressed air a month trying to keep my rigs clean (dust makes them run hotter).

They are not in a rock quarry. They are someplace much worse.


Air quality in China is notoriously poor.

[Henchman24]

Are you aware that all units are tested prior to shipment? You can't make the leap that they have been tested on mainnet simply because the unit is filled with dust. It's a long extension even for a shill from BFL.

His was damaged and he definitely needs a replacement, ASAP.

Where are they doing this testing, the local rock quarry?  

That is weeks worth of dust.
http://s21.postimg.org/h2pga4yxi/005.jpg

Actually, that is one week's worth of dust on my equipment if I leave my back garage door open for ventilation during the day. I go through a can of compressed air a month trying to keep my rigs clean (dust makes them run hotter).

They are not in a rock quarry. They are someplace much worse.


Air quality in China is notoriously poor.

Then wouldn't they ALL look like that then?

[erk]

Who cares if avalon tested on the main chain. They are giving you a magic money machine. It's like getting mad at the lotto for winning 550 mill but having to pay half for lump sum then another half for taxes. You still getting more than you put in(eventually). People really need to change their expectations for asic companies.

Honestly I would prefer if they tested on the main chain for two reasons, firstly it's a more accurate test, after all that's how the unit is intended to be run, secondly if they make a bit more cash flow from it they have a healthier business.