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May 14, 2017, 08:38:10 PM
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There has been no definite evidence to prove these theories at all. Shouldn't all monkeys have evolved to being man by now.

Man evolved from a species of monkeys which for some reason felt the need to get down from the trees and walk the earth. Everything else was triggered by this. The rest of the monkeys didn't need to get down to the ground and you can see most of them living happily up there in the tree tops to this day. It was probably some circumstance specific to where the proto-humans lived and which wasn't present anywhere else. Just the same way as there are amazonian tribes who still haven't set foot into the 11th, let alone the 21th century.

My poop evolved to become a horse. That's true. I can't show it to you but I have evidence: You see, it took a lot of time to evolve.

How in the world old are you?     Grin

There's poop and horses in the world so they must have evolved from each other. I don't know how and it doesn't make sense but Richard Dawkins told me so so it must be true because he is famous scientist or something  Smiley

Dawkins - Politician disguised as a scientist.     Cool

It seems you are not very intelligent, unlike me because I believe what Dawkins says, By the way, he is very popular. And you are hurting my feelings and my ego is under a threat by your claims. I must use my secret weapon to discredit you: YOU MUST BE A CREATIONIST! Now since I said that, you can't win.

Every scientific thing that Dawkins says in favor of evolution is provably false.

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No! Stop triggering me! I saw this image in schoolbook when I was 7 years old:



That image clearly proves evolution is true. And I already used magic word 'creationist' so I already won  Smiley
And I told you I'm very intelligent.
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May 14, 2017, 08:43:49 PM
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There has been no definite evidence to prove these theories at all. Shouldn't all monkeys have evolved to being man by now.

Man evolved from a species of monkeys which for some reason felt the need to get down from the trees and walk the earth. Everything else was triggered by this. The rest of the monkeys didn't need to get down to the ground and you can see most of them living happily up there in the tree tops to this day. It was probably some circumstance specific to where the proto-humans lived and which wasn't present anywhere else. Just the same way as there are amazonian tribes who still haven't set foot into the 11th, let alone the 21th century.

My poop evolved to become a horse. That's true. I can't show it to you but I have evidence: You see, it took a lot of time to evolve.

How in the world old are you?     Grin

There's poop and horses in the world so they must have evolved from each other. I don't know how and it doesn't make sense but Richard Dawkins told me so so it must be true because he is famous scientist or something  Smiley

Dawkins - Politician disguised as a scientist.     Cool

It seems you are not very intelligent, unlike me because I believe what Dawkins says, By the way, he is very popular. And you are hurting my feelings and my ego is under a threat by your claims. I must use my secret weapon to discredit you: YOU MUST BE A CREATIONIST! Now since I said that, you can't win.

Every scientific thing that Dawkins says in favor of evolution is provably false.

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No! Stop triggering me! I saw this image in schoolbook when I was 7 years old:



That image clearly proves evolution is true. And I already used magic word 'creationist' so I already won  Smiley
And I told you I'm very intelligent.

But they are different in Hawaii.



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May 14, 2017, 09:36:50 PM
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Evolution exists and we can see it even in our lifetime. Look at the people in the 50s of the last century and present-day people. Now the youth grows and they are much higher. Children start to sit and walk faster. All this is an example of evolution on a short stage.

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May 14, 2017, 10:01:46 PM
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Evolution exists and we can see it even in our lifetime. Look at the people in the 50s of the last century and present-day people. Now the youth grows and they are much higher. Children start to sit and walk faster. All this is an example of evolution on a short stage.

There's an ass tone of hormones and hormone secretion inducing chemicals in the water kids drink nowadays. You can see 12 year old girls who look like grown women and almost as often 16 year old boys who look like pre-teens. There was a movie on this as far as I remember, I think it was called "The disappearing man" or something.
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May 14, 2017, 11:19:18 PM
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Evolution is a hoax coz our Lord Savior made us this way and placed a pair who then proceeded to populate the Earth through incest. BTW, may I bother any of you to take a look at my pet dragon? I have him here in my room, looking over my shoulders as I type this.

Evolution exists and we can see it even in our lifetime. Look at the people in the 50s of the last century and present-day people. Now the youth grows and they are much higher. Children start to sit and walk faster. All this is an example of evolution on a short stage.

There's an ass tone of hormones and hormone secretion inducing chemicals in the water kids drink nowadays. You can see 12 year old girls who look like grown women and almost as often 16 year old boys who look like pre-teens. There was a movie on this as far as I remember, I think it was called "The disappearing man" or something.

I remember reading somewhere where they blame it on the increased consumption of fats and sugars. Cheesy

Or maybe... muh chemtrails!!!  Grin
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Evolution exists and we can see it even in our lifetime. Look at the people in the 50s of the last century and present-day people. Now the youth grows and they are much higher. Children start to sit and walk faster. All this is an example of evolution on a short stage.

That's called devolution.    Cool
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May 14, 2017, 11:52:53 PM
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I think so far evolution is the best explanation we can have so far for life's existence in this planet. I mean, I find it definitely more believable than to think humans were made of clay, or came out of bamboo, or spit out into existence in an intense moment of auto-fellatio.
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I think so far evolution is the best explanation we can have so far for life's existence in this planet. I mean, I find it definitely more believable than to think humans were made of clay, or came out of bamboo, or spit out into existence in an intense moment of auto-fellatio.

The down-to-earth reality of evolution is, it can't happen in any way that we can imagine it.

All the various scientific theories for evolution leave out so much stuff that would be necessary for life, that evolution isn't possible.

The point is, we don't know by examining the earth and life, how life came about. The best that we have is credible ancient, historical records from people who were recognized as credible by other people of their day.

The Bible is by far the strongest of these records. My numbers might not be quite accurate here, but there are in the range of 25,000 hand written copies of the ancient Bible. These copies pretty much match each other for accuracy. And, they match the hand written copies from around 500 years ago when the printing press came into being.

There is no other book that comes close to this, in numbers of copies, and in credibility of authors as held by their various contemporaries.

So what?!, right? The Bible is the best record of things in ancient history that we have. And the nation through whom the Bible came, still exists today as an active and powerful nation... Israel.

There is something powerful and virtually impossible going on with the Bible. And we are alive to be able to look at this power, and handle it with our hands, and read it with our eyes and minds.

There is nothing else that even comes close to the strength and miraculousness of the Bible, either in ancient knowledge, or in modern knowledge.

Remember this one thing. If the printing press hadn't been invented, we would still have the Bible, but there would be almost no science at all... including electricity, cars, certainly not rockets, electric ranges, or any of our modern conveniences, certainly not computers.

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May 15, 2017, 01:03:12 AM
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Evolution exists and we can see it even in our lifetime. Look at the people in the 50s of the last century and present-day people. Now the youth grows and they are much higher. Children start to sit and walk faster. All this is an example of evolution on a short stage.

People like you are the reason why I, coming from atheist family, found God late in my life.

You are referring to Flynn effect, not fucking evolution theory! Better nutrition and healthcare has nothing do with genetic drift and variation or even formation of different species.

http://www.unz.com/isteve/the-flynn-effect-for-height/

And you know what? It is fully reversible. Early modern humans being significantly smaller, than their stone age ancestors both in height, brain size and muscle mass. Due to lifestyle, not genes.
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May 15, 2017, 10:20:25 PM
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I think so far evolution is the best explanation we can have so far for life's existence in this planet. I mean, I find it definitely more believable than to think humans were made of clay, or came out of bamboo, or spit out into existence in an intense moment of auto-fellatio.

It's not a good explanation because there's no evidence.
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May 15, 2017, 10:45:58 PM
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I think so far evolution is the best explanation we can have so far for life's existence in this planet. I mean, I find it definitely more believable than to think humans were made of clay, or came out of bamboo, or spit out into existence in an intense moment of auto-fellatio.

It's not a good explanation because there's no evidence.

However, since there is no evidence, the evolution scientists have changed the meaning of "evolution" down through the ages until it simply means "change." This shows that the only thing that has evolved is the meaning of the word "evolution."

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Evidence of course not, but why is the baby in the womb develops in the water? Maybe because when people came out of the water? We don't know that but I'm sure that people just made not from clay.

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May 16, 2017, 07:07:06 AM
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Evidence of course not, but why is the baby in the womb develops in the water? Maybe because when people came out of the water? We don't know that but I'm sure that people just made not from clay.
When our body dies and some time pass, we become dust and clay again.
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What credible alternative to evolution is there?  Can't really go with the 'Adam and Eve' tale.  

"Yeah, the human race arose from a man and a woman, created by God, who went on to have two Sons".

And then what?  The Human race ended there?  Or did one of the Sons have intercourse with his Mother, being the only woman on earth at the time?  Then the same again after Noah's Ark.  Noah and his Wife had kids, who must have committed acts of incest to perpetuate the species since everyone else supposedly drowned.

You can believe you're the result of incestuous inbreeding if you like, there's probably some truth to it for a few of you.  


The point is, we don't know by examining the earth and life, how life came about. The best that we have is credible ancient, historical records from people who were recognized as credible by other people of their day.

The Bible is by far the strongest of these records. My numbers might not be quite accurate here, but there are in the range of 25,000 hand written copies of the ancient Bible. These copies pretty much match each other for accuracy. And, they match the hand written copies from around 500 years ago when the printing press came into being.

There is no other book that comes close to this, in numbers of copies, and in credibility of authors as held by their various contemporaries.

So what?!, right? The Bible is the best record of things in ancient history that we have. And the nation through whom the Bible came, still exists today as an active and powerful nation... Israel.

There is something powerful and virtually impossible going on with the Bible. And we are alive to be able to look at this power, and handle it with our hands, and read it with our eyes and minds.

There is nothing else that even comes close to the strength and miraculousness of the Bible, either in ancient knowledge, or in modern knowledge.

Ancient folklore/mythology != Ancient historical records

Especially folklore/mythology involving so much inbreeding.  Again, no thanks.  The Bible is merely a collection of fables, aiming to teach the decidedly archaic moral code of the time, that some people, for reasons beyond anyone's comprehension, choose to take literally in the modern day.  There are plenty of copies of 'Harry Potter', but in another 3500 years, people (hopefully) won't be stupid enough to take it as some sort of historical record.  Just because they lacked the technology to mass produce Bibles and had to copy them by hand, that fact alone doesn't lend any additional credibility to the mythos contained therein.

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May 16, 2017, 09:46:31 AM
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Evolution makes perfect sense to me. Monkeys did not evolve because they did not encounter the conditions which were necessary to evolve.   I can envision a big tree where everything has a common genetic ancestor. It's actually amazing how many genetic similarities we share with mammals and other species, for example the urge to urinate when the sound of running water is heard, sexual reproduction, the way our eyes look, etc.   

If you eliminate the thinking mind and use mindfulness to observe nature and observe your basic instincts, you can get in touch with your animal self.
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May 16, 2017, 11:22:54 AM
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What credible alternative to evolution is there?  Can't really go with the 'Adam and Eve' tale.  

"Yeah, the human race arose from a man and a woman, created by God, who went on to have two Sons".

And then what?  The Human race ended there?  Or did one of the Sons have intercourse with his Mother, being the only woman on earth at the time?  Then the same again after Noah's Ark.  Noah and his Wife had kids, who must have committed acts of incest to perpetuate the species since everyone else supposedly drowned.

You can believe you're the result of incestuous inbreeding if you like, there's probably some truth to it for a few of you.  


The point is, we don't know by examining the earth and life, how life came about. The best that we have is credible ancient, historical records from people who were recognized as credible by other people of their day.

The Bible is by far the strongest of these records. My numbers might not be quite accurate here, but there are in the range of 25,000 hand written copies of the ancient Bible. These copies pretty much match each other for accuracy. And, they match the hand written copies from around 500 years ago when the printing press came into being.

There is no other book that comes close to this, in numbers of copies, and in credibility of authors as held by their various contemporaries.

So what?!, right? The Bible is the best record of things in ancient history that we have. And the nation through whom the Bible came, still exists today as an active and powerful nation... Israel.

There is something powerful and virtually impossible going on with the Bible. And we are alive to be able to look at this power, and handle it with our hands, and read it with our eyes and minds.

There is nothing else that even comes close to the strength and miraculousness of the Bible, either in ancient knowledge, or in modern knowledge.

Ancient folklore/mythology != Ancient historical records

Especially folklore/mythology involving so much inbreeding.  Again, no thanks.  The Bible is merely a collection of fables, aiming to teach the decidedly archaic moral code of the time, that some people, for reasons beyond anyone's comprehension, choose to take literally in the modern day.  There are plenty of copies of 'Harry Potter', but in another 3500 years, people (hopefully) won't be stupid enough to take it as some sort of historical record.  Just because they lacked the technology to mass produce Bibles and had to copy them by hand, that fact alone doesn't lend any additional credibility to the mythos contained therein.

Actually, after Toba catastrophe theory, entire human race supposedly collapsed to between 3 to 10 thousand individuals (including children, elderly and infertile). This repeated itself as various continents around the world were settled by very small groups of paleolithic survivors (about 1000 for Americas) So we are all likely product of incest regardless, if you lack abstractive thinking to understand Bible, sir.
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May 16, 2017, 11:32:50 AM
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Why there are still monkeys around if they were part of our evolutionary beginnings ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz0gFarCfBE



Thanks Criptyx.

Simple explanation of a complex theory.

But people saying evolution is a hoax are not able to process any cognitive thought. Don't lose too much time with them.

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May 16, 2017, 11:34:59 AM
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It's not a good explanation because there's no evidence.

Soooooooo...
The numerous fossils we found retracing the evolution theory aren't any proof?
The Darwin theories actually supported by numerous experiments made both on animals and plants aren't evidence?

The fact that YOU can ACTUALLY SEE evolution within a few months simply with normal garden plants isn't a proof?

What do you expect as proofs? xD

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May 16, 2017, 11:40:23 AM
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Evolution makes perfect sense to me. Monkeys did not evolve because they did not encounter the conditions which were necessary to evolve.   I can envision a big tree where everything has a common genetic ancestor. It's actually amazing how many genetic similarities we share with mammals and other species, for example the urge to urinate when the sound of running water is heard, sexual reproduction, the way our eyes look, etc.   

If you eliminate the thinking mind and use mindfulness to observe nature and observe your basic instincts, you can get in touch with your animal self.
I believe in evolution, but I don't understand why our genes have more affinity with pigs and fruit flies than with a monkey. Can anybody explain this fact? I wonder how Muslims react to the similarity of their genes with a pig.
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May 16, 2017, 11:58:06 AM
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Evolution makes perfect sense to me. Monkeys did not evolve because they did not encounter the conditions which were necessary to evolve.   I can envision a big tree where everything has a common genetic ancestor. It's actually amazing how many genetic similarities we share with mammals and other species, for example the urge to urinate when the sound of running water is heard, sexual reproduction, the way our eyes look, etc.   

If you eliminate the thinking mind and use mindfulness to observe nature and observe your basic instincts, you can get in touch with your animal self.
I believe in evolution, but I don't understand why our genes have more affinity with pigs and fruit flies than with a monkey. Can anybody explain this fact? I wonder how Muslims react to the similarity of their genes with a pig.

Muslims do not eat pork, because they believe that they did not come from a monkey, but from a pig Grin

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