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June 21, 2017, 02:39:34 AM
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Several of you have not read or understood the definitions of scientific theory and scientific law.

You are arguing over definitions of words you do not understand or just outright reject because they don't fit your preconceptions.

A scientific theory is NOT the same as your idea of a theory just being an unknown. Read it again and concentrate on the meaning because you have totally missed it.

There is a gravity law that is the observation of gravity, reduced to mathematics. There is the gravity theory that explains why we observe what is described by the gravity law. This meaning of "theory" is the basis of all science and is tested over and over and over again.

A scientific theory is only a scientific theory by virtue of the tests being so complete that no one can prove holes in it, that is as close to fact as you can get on any topic. All the other religious justification, appealing to unverifiable sources and texts stuff is magical thinking and has zero basis in rooting out facts.

The reality is that the scientific theory of evolution has been proven to hold up under the assault of thousands of experiments attacking its model. It is real. It is factual. If you can prove, via independently testable experiments that it is not true then you will be considered one of the greatest scientists that ever lived.

Creationism on the other hand can not stand up to any sort of testing and in many cases can not even be tested, it is by definition NOT science. Arguing as if it is science, on an equal footing to be discussed along with other scientific study is a damned lie.

You are all entitled to your own opinions of course but you are not entitled to your own facts and when you argue using scientific language but ignoring the accepted meanings of that language you aren't even trying to communicate, you are just shouting into the void to avoid looking at reality.

When you research rebuttals against evolution, you find many points that evolution theory has not overcome. Why hasn't evolution theory overcome them? Because evolution theory doesn't even take them into account.

Three simple rebuttals that destroy evolution are:
1. Probability math, combined with the way things happen;
2. Irreducible Complexity;
3. No visible/provable missing link fossils.

There are many more. They are not religious except in the sense that there is religion in everything that people do.

Explanations that try to rebut the rebuttals are so convoluted that if they were added to evolution theory, they would immediately destroy the whole evolution idea.

This makes evolution theory quite acceptable as far as it goes. But it is sci-fi acceptable only, because it doesn't fit the real world.

The attempts of science to make things that are not real into reality, is why the word "theory" has become as convoluted as it has between regular theory and science theory.

A house of cards may be structurally strong if there is no force that acts against it. That is the way evolution theory is.
Stand it up next to reality, and it fails miserably.

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June 21, 2017, 02:41:17 AM
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There isn't one proven instance of evolution around us, ON YOUR FACE Wink..

A simple SPOT evolves where who knows but you know a spot can evolve somewhere on your face..

Evolution means evolve or evolved ..

Also are you saying this youtube video is a lie?..

Evolution in Action: Ring Species - YouTube
Video for evolution in action salamanders▶ 3:17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjcFSy1KCTI
17 Sep 2007 - Uploaded by phoenixshade3
This video presents to the layman an example of evolution as an ongoing process: The Ensatina salamanders

Evolution in Action - California Salamanders - YouTube
Video for evolution in action salamanders▶ 3:22
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDIQFQOCGaI
29 May 2012 - Uploaded by Science For the Win
David Wake, a renowned evolutionary biologist at the University of California, Berkeley, as he explains why .


Proof of evolution that you can find on your body - YouTube
Video for can we see evolution▶ 3:55
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFxu7NEoKC8
17 Mar 2016 - Uploaded by Vox
Proof of evolution that you can find on your body. Vox ... to find signs of our evolutionary history — you can .


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There can be many meanings for a word. Here is what I mean when I say evolution.

Evolution in the sense of inanimate material becoming life without some other life causing it to do so, there is no evolution.

Evolution in the sense of one species changing into another, there is no evolution.

In the sense of random happenstance, there is no mutation. Mutations are programmed into the universe through cause and effect just like everything else. Evolution through random happenstance mutation is nonexistent, because there is no random.

If your meaning of the word "evolution" is approximately equal to the word "change," then there is evolution all over the place. But note that scientific evolution doesn't limit itself to the word "change." There is no evolution in the sense that standard evolutionists talk about it.

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There can be many meanings for a word. NOT when you talk about evolution Wink..
3 meanings to the word..

POINT1  EVOLVE meaning what will come or where will it come

POINT2 EVOLVING meaning the thing that come is still in it's process

POINT3 EVOLVED meaning the thing that's come as finished it's process ..

And all 3 points point back to 1 point EVOLUTION Wink..

And Gravity has nothing to do with EVOLUTION because things can evolve without GRAVITY..
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June 21, 2017, 02:46:08 AM
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Several of you have not read or understood the definitions of scientific theory and scientific law.

You are arguing over definitions of words you do not understand or just outright reject because they don't fit your preconceptions.

A scientific theory is NOT the same as your idea of a theory just being an unknown. Read it again and concentrate on the meaning because you have totally missed it.

There is a gravity law that is the observation of gravity, reduced to mathematics. There is the gravity theory that explains why we observe what is described by the gravity law. This meaning of "theory" is the basis of all science and is tested over and over and over again.

A scientific theory is only a scientific theory by virtue of the tests being so complete that no one can prove holes in it, that is as close to fact as you can get on any topic. All the other religious justification, appealing to unverifiable sources and texts stuff is magical thinking and has zero basis in rooting out facts.

The reality is that the scientific theory of evolution has been proven to hold up under the assault of thousands of experiments attacking its model. It is real. It is factual. If you can prove, via independently testable experiments that it is not true then you will be considered one of the greatest scientists that ever lived.

Creationism on the other hand can not stand up to any sort of testing and in many cases can not even be tested, it is by definition NOT science. Arguing as if it is science, on an equal footing to be discussed along with other scientific study is a damned lie.

You are all entitled to your own opinions of course but you are not entitled to your own facts and when you argue using scientific language but ignoring the accepted meanings of that language you aren't even trying to communicate, you are just shouting into the void to avoid looking at reality.
I am ENGLISH we wrote the word THEORY..
A theory is not FACT IT'S A THEORY ..

You do know many things might need to be wrote again ..
Like light speed..
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June 21, 2017, 02:47:52 AM
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There isn't one proven instance of evolution around us, ON YOUR FACE Wink..

A simple SPOT evolves where who knows but you know a spot can evolve somewhere on your face..

Evolution means evolve or evolved ..

Also are you saying this youtube video is a lie?..

Evolution in Action: Ring Species - YouTube
Video for evolution in action salamanders▶ 3:17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjcFSy1KCTI
17 Sep 2007 - Uploaded by phoenixshade3
This video presents to the layman an example of evolution as an ongoing process: The Ensatina salamanders

Evolution in Action - California Salamanders - YouTube
Video for evolution in action salamanders▶ 3:22
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDIQFQOCGaI
29 May 2012 - Uploaded by Science For the Win
David Wake, a renowned evolutionary biologist at the University of California, Berkeley, as he explains why .


Proof of evolution that you can find on your body - YouTube
Video for can we see evolution▶ 3:55
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFxu7NEoKC8
17 Mar 2016 - Uploaded by Vox
Proof of evolution that you can find on your body. Vox ... to find signs of our evolutionary history — you can .


YOUR BIBLE BLINDS YOU Grin

There can be many meanings for a word. Here is what I mean when I say evolution.

Evolution in the sense of inanimate material becoming life without some other life causing it to do so, there is no evolution.

Evolution in the sense of one species changing into another, there is no evolution.

In the sense of random happenstance, there is no mutation. Mutations are programmed into the universe through cause and effect just like everything else. Evolution through random happenstance mutation is nonexistent, because there is no random.

If your meaning of the word "evolution" is approximately equal to the word "change," then there is evolution all over the place. But note that scientific evolution doesn't limit itself to the word "change." There is no evolution in the sense that standard evolutionists talk about it.

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There can be many meanings for a word. NOT when you talk about evolution Wink..
3 meanings to the word..

POINT1  EVOLVE meaning what will come or where will it come

POINT2 EVOLVING meaning the thing that come is still in it's process

POINT3 EVOLVED meaning the thing that's come as finished it's process ..

And all 3 points point back to 1 point EVOLUTION Wink..

And Gravity has nothing to do with EVOLUTION because things can evolve without GRAVITY..

Whatever you want to say about it, look at my last post, above. In the sense that I have said, there is no evolution. There are way too many proofs against it.

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June 21, 2017, 03:18:05 AM
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There isn't one proven instance of evolution around us, ON YOUR FACE Wink..

A simple SPOT evolves where who knows but you know a spot can evolve somewhere on your face..

Evolution means evolve or evolved ..

Also are you saying this youtube video is a lie?..

Evolution in Action: Ring Species - YouTube
Video for evolution in action salamanders▶ 3:17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjcFSy1KCTI
17 Sep 2007 - Uploaded by phoenixshade3
This video presents to the layman an example of evolution as an ongoing process: The Ensatina salamanders

Evolution in Action - California Salamanders - YouTube
Video for evolution in action salamanders▶ 3:22
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDIQFQOCGaI
29 May 2012 - Uploaded by Science For the Win
David Wake, a renowned evolutionary biologist at the University of California, Berkeley, as he explains why .


Proof of evolution that you can find on your body - YouTube
Video for can we see evolution▶ 3:55
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFxu7NEoKC8
17 Mar 2016 - Uploaded by Vox
Proof of evolution that you can find on your body. Vox ... to find signs of our evolutionary history — you can .


YOUR BIBLE BLINDS YOU Grin

There can be many meanings for a word. Here is what I mean when I say evolution.

Evolution in the sense of inanimate material becoming life without some other life causing it to do so, there is no evolution.

Evolution in the sense of one species changing into another, there is no evolution.

In the sense of random happenstance, there is no mutation. Mutations are programmed into the universe through cause and effect just like everything else. Evolution through random happenstance mutation is nonexistent, because there is no random.

If your meaning of the word "evolution" is approximately equal to the word "change," then there is evolution all over the place. But note that scientific evolution doesn't limit itself to the word "change." There is no evolution in the sense that standard evolutionists talk about it.

Cool
There can be many meanings for a word. NOT when you talk about evolution Wink..
3 meanings to the word..

POINT1  EVOLVE meaning what will come or where will it come

POINT2 EVOLVING meaning the thing that come is still in it's process

POINT3 EVOLVED meaning the thing that's come as finished it's process ..

And all 3 points point back to 1 point EVOLUTION Wink..

And Gravity has nothing to do with EVOLUTION because things can evolve without GRAVITY..

Whatever you want to say about it, look at my last post, above. In the sense that I have said, there is no evolution. There are way too many proofs against it.

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But evolution exist everywhere..

Look a theory is not fact in needs to be studied and proved to be fact..

Einstein's gravity theory could be wrong as new theory passes first test ...
www.dailymail.co.uk/.../Was-Einstein-WRONG-gravity-Controversial-new-theory-rewri...
19 Dec 2016 - The new theory, which suggests our understanding of gravity is wrong, is now ... 'But then if you mathematically factor in the fact that Verlinde's

Gravity and dark matter are NOT real, according to theory that would ...
www.express.co.uk › News › Science
10 Nov 2016 - Gravity and dark matter are an illusion, according to a new theory ... is correct, it would essentially disprove Albert Einstein's theory of relativity

Gravity: It's Only a Theory | NCSE
https://ncse.com/library-resource/gravity-its-only-theory
This satirical look at "only a theory" disclaimers imagines what might happen if advocates applied the same logic to the theory of gravitation that they do to the

Einstein's gravity theory could be wrong as new theory passes first test ...
www.dailymail.co.uk/.../Was-Einstein-WRONG-gravity-Controversial-new-theory-rewri...
19 Dec 2016 - This new particle, if it exists, would not fit into the description given by the Standard ... 'We have evidence that this new view of gravity actually agrees with the ... 'At large scales, it seems, gravity just doesn't behave the way


See we English own the world ..
Well we must do because on my globe every country is wrote in ENGLISH so that makes the world
MINE Grin..

So what i say goes..

And a theory is not fact because we don't know the whole truth about this theory to make it FACT..

If you say something is FACT it is SO and a THEORY IS NOT SO..

And yes it was a Greek word Wink

Very clever the Greeks at one time in history ..We humans owe a lot to the GREEKS
You think the EU would let them off with the DEBT because they will never get out of it..

So forget the debt..And let the Greeks start again..You done it for AFRICA Wink.
wiped the debt clean..
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June 21, 2017, 03:20:56 AM
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I am ENGLISH we wrote the word THEORY..
A theory is not FACT IT'S A THEORY ..

You do know many things might need to be wrote again ..
Like light speed..

LOL, ok then. Except we are talking not about "theory" but about "scientific theory".

If you rewrite light speed you'll have to rewrite the definition of a meter. Have at it, maybe you can successfully revive the concept of aether.

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June 21, 2017, 03:24:05 AM
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I was kind of amazed by the exchange of ideas here.

Well, for me, evolution remains to be a theory, yes, just that, a theory, until now. I don't know how Charles Darwin became a celebrity scientist right after he theorized that what we are now are different centuries and centuries ago. Perhaps because his idea was sort of radically new? The discovery actually caused a bandwagon mentality among a lot people. The entire world was stirred by his claim. Established religion was terribly shaken to its core. School curricula are challenged. The people's comfort zone was rendered uncomfortable.  

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I am ENGLISH we wrote the word THEORY..
A theory is not FACT IT'S A THEORY ..

You do know many things might need to be wrote again ..
Like light speed..

LOL, ok then. Except we are talking not about "theory" but about "scientific theory".

If you rewrite light speed you'll have to rewrite the definition of a meter. Have at it, maybe you can successfully revive the concept of aether.
Nothing can travel faster than light?..

NASA --"Is It On the Verge of Discovering 'Warp Bubbles' Enabling ...
www.dailygalaxy.com/.../nasa-is-it-on-the-verge-of-discovering-warp-bubbles-enabli...
27 Apr 2015 - There have been hints in recent news that NASA may be on the path to discovering warp bubbles that could make the local universe accessible .

"scientific theory" is NOT FACT Cheesy Cheesy..
So why the theories if it's fact ..

Because under scientific law you have to prove the theory you talk about is fact..

And once you prove it to be fact it's not a theory anymore..

All this space talk is all theories unless we get out there we can theorise all we want but it still not FACT Cheesy Cheesy..

scientific theory" is not fact until you prove it to be so..

So to all you SCIENTIST stop with the bullshit to get FUNDS Wink
A theory is not fact till you prove it to be fact..

Oh i got a theory and it's real give me funding 100 years later is this theory true well yes it is
oh good show me then ..Then off the go with all the BULLSHIT..

Bit like is global warming real or a THEORY  Wink..

many say real many say not real..

All i know is plastic pollution is real 100 %..So not a theory but a FACT..
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June 21, 2017, 08:42:26 AM
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The evidence is clear, as in a February 2009 Gallup Poll, taken on the eve of the 200th anniversary of Charles Darwin's birthday, that reported only 39 percent of Americans say they "believe in the theory of evolution," while a quarter say they do not believe in the theory, and another 36 percent don't have an opinion either way.

The same poll correlated belief in evolution with educational level: 21 percent of people with a high school education or less believed in evolution. That number rose to 41 percent for people with some college attendance, 53 percent for college graduates, and 74 percent for people with a postgraduate education.

Clearly, the level of education has an impact on how people feel about evolution.

Another variable investigated by the same poll was how belief in evolution correlates with church attendance. Of those who believe in evolution, 24 percent go to church weekly, 30 percent go nearly weekly/monthly, and 55 percent seldom or never go.

Not surprisingly, and rather unfortunately, religious belief interferes with people's understanding of what the theory of evolution says.
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June 22, 2017, 01:47:50 AM
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The evidence is clear, as in a February 2009 Gallup Poll, taken on the eve of the 200th anniversary of Charles Darwin's birthday, that reported only 39 percent of Americans say they "believe in the theory of evolution," while a quarter say they do not believe in the theory, and another 36 percent don't have an opinion either way.

The same poll correlated belief in evolution with educational level: 21 percent of people with a high school education or less believed in evolution. That number rose to 41 percent for people with some college attendance, 53 percent for college graduates, and 74 percent for people with a postgraduate education.

Clearly, the level of education has an impact on how people feel about evolution.

Another variable investigated by the same poll was how belief in evolution correlates with church attendance. Of those who believe in evolution, 24 percent go to church weekly, 30 percent go nearly weekly/monthly, and 55 percent seldom or never go.

Not surprisingly, and rather unfortunately, religious belief interferes with people's understanding of what the theory of evolution says.

So you can see that Astargath is a hoax right along with evolution. However, why not believe a religion, right?, even if it is the evolution religion.

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June 22, 2017, 01:53:16 AM
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I am ENGLISH we wrote the word THEORY..
A theory is not FACT IT'S A THEORY ..

You do know many things might need to be wrote again ..
Like light speed..

LOL, ok then. Except we are talking not about "theory" but about "scientific theory".

If you rewrite light speed you'll have to rewrite the definition of a meter. Have at it, maybe you can successfully revive the concept of aether.
Nothing can travel faster than light?..

NASA --"Is It On the Verge of Discovering 'Warp Bubbles' Enabling ...
www.dailygalaxy.com/.../nasa-is-it-on-the-verge-of-discovering-warp-bubbles-enabli...
27 Apr 2015 - There have been hints in recent news that NASA may be on the path to discovering warp bubbles that could make the local universe accessible .

"scientific theory" is NOT FACT Cheesy Cheesy..
So why the theories if it's fact ..

Because under scientific law you have to prove the theory you talk about is fact..

And once you prove it to be fact it's not a theory anymore..

All this space talk is all theories unless we get out there we can theorise all we want but it still not FACT Cheesy Cheesy..

scientific theory" is not fact until you prove it to be so..

So to all you SCIENTIST stop with the bullshit to get FUNDS Wink
A theory is not fact till you prove it to be fact..

Oh i got a theory and it's real give me funding 100 years later is this theory true well yes it is
oh good show me then ..Then off the go with all the BULLSHIT..

Bit like is global warming real or a THEORY  Wink..

many say real many say not real..

All i know is plastic pollution is real 100 %..So not a theory but a FACT..

Here is where you mess up in the things that you say.

Science theory is not KNOWN TO BE fact. It might be fact. But so far nobody KNOWS that it is fact.

Evolution is different. Since evolution has been proven over and over to not be possible, evolution theory is a hoax, right along with saying that evolution is fact.

Just because a bunch of scientists and other people are unwilling to admit that evolution and its theory are a hox, doesn't mean that evolution is NOT a hoax.

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June 22, 2017, 05:10:27 AM
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I do not believe in the theory of evolution , Because the theory is not clear

same to you i do not agree in that theory because I  Believe in Bible  that God created man in his own image not in monkey  . Charles Darwin don't believe in bible that's why he said that man came from monkey



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June 22, 2017, 08:44:54 AM
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The evidence is clear, as in a February 2009 Gallup Poll, taken on the eve of the 200th anniversary of Charles Darwin's birthday, that reported only 39 percent of Americans say they "believe in the theory of evolution," while a quarter say they do not believe in the theory, and another 36 percent don't have an opinion either way.

The same poll correlated belief in evolution with educational level: 21 percent of people with a high school education or less believed in evolution. That number rose to 41 percent for people with some college attendance, 53 percent for college graduates, and 74 percent for people with a postgraduate education.

Clearly, the level of education has an impact on how people feel about evolution.

Another variable investigated by the same poll was how belief in evolution correlates with church attendance. Of those who believe in evolution, 24 percent go to church weekly, 30 percent go nearly weekly/monthly, and 55 percent seldom or never go.

Not surprisingly, and rather unfortunately, religious belief interferes with people's understanding of what the theory of evolution says.

So you can see that Astargath is a hoax right along with evolution. However, why not believe a religion, right?, even if it is the evolution religion.

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You are adamantly against the things that I say. You are so much against them, that you are against me just for saying them. You show this in your posts. What does this mean? Here's what.

If you could find any rebuttals against the proof that evolution is real, as expressed in my links, you would show them. You would get right into my wording, and show a rebuttal and how it is a rebuttal. You wouldn't sit around rebutting ME. You would rebut the proof that evolution is a fact.
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I am ENGLISH we wrote the word THEORY..
A theory is not FACT IT'S A THEORY ..

You do know many things might need to be wrote again ..
Like light speed..

LOL, ok then. Except we are talking not about "theory" but about "scientific theory".

If you rewrite light speed you'll have to rewrite the definition of a meter. Have at it, maybe you can successfully revive the concept of aether.
Nothing can travel faster than light?..

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"scientific theory" is NOT FACT Cheesy Cheesy..
So why the theories if it's fact ..

Because under scientific law you have to prove the theory you talk about is fact..

And once you prove it to be fact it's not a theory anymore..

All this space talk is all theories unless we get out there we can theorise all we want but it still not FACT Cheesy Cheesy..

scientific theory" is not fact until you prove it to be so..

So to all you SCIENTIST stop with the bullshit to get FUNDS Wink
A theory is not fact till you prove it to be fact..

Oh i got a theory and it's real give me funding 100 years later is this theory true well yes it is
oh good show me then ..Then off the go with all the BULLSHIT..

Bit like is global warming real or a THEORY  Wink..

many say real many say not real..

All i know is plastic pollution is real 100 %..So not a theory but a FACT..

Here is where you mess up in the things that you say.

Science theory is not KNOWN TO BE fact. It might be fact. But so far nobody KNOWS that it is fact.

Evolution is different. Since evolution has been proven over and over to not be possible, evolution theory is a hoax, right along with saying that evolution is fact.

Just because a bunch of scientists and other people are unwilling to admit that evolution and its theory are a hox, doesn't mean that evolution is NOT a hoax.

Cool
Science theory is not KNOWN TO BE fact..CORRECT Wink..
That's why you are studying this science theory to come to a FACT.. Grin Roll Eyes

Since evolution has been proven over and over to not be possible..WOW Cheesy
And who proved this?..

Evolution how did life EVOLVE ..I would think most humans do want to know this answer?..

And that's why humans invented the word EVOLUTION to find out how we come to be..

Because someone thought an invisible sky daddy couldn't of possibly made all this in 6 DAYS Wink..

And as we have BRAINS we thought lets make a science of how we come to be..EVOLUTION ..

Now from wanting to know how we come to be we know want to know EVERYTHING..
How the UNIVERSE STARTED ..

Can we travel around this universe
Are we the only ones in this universe ..

And thanks to DARWIN he made humans more inquisitive to our surroundings and who are we and what have we come from AND also what will we come to be ..

Just so many questions I.E THEORIES that need to be answered and always will
because with science so many new fields to be studied ..

Plus so many new fields not even thought of that will need to be studied because we are evolving
with so many new SCIENCE THEORIES  that all need to be proven to be SO..I.E a FACT..

So Badecker YOU HAVE LOST Cheesy..
And GOD never said anything you did in your own BRAINS  Cheesy..
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June 22, 2017, 06:48:25 PM
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I am ENGLISH we wrote the word THEORY..
A theory is not FACT IT'S A THEORY ..

You do know many things might need to be wrote again ..
Like light speed..

LOL, ok then. Except we are talking not about "theory" but about "scientific theory".

If you rewrite light speed you'll have to rewrite the definition of a meter. Have at it, maybe you can successfully revive the concept of aether.

You are new so I'll enlighten you... BADlogic and popcorn understand they are wrong... they are simply trying to perpetuate their misinformation

Science theory is as close to fact as it gets, there is no debate among scientists.
Only ignorant religious sheeple talk about "theory isn't fact" or some such... many of them understand they are wrong, but do not care because their religion is more important to them than the truth

Personally, I don't understand their problem with evolution... most christians believe in evolution and have found ways for it to make sense in their own minds...
For example, the church I went to as a child... I had asked about dinosaurs and how millions of years meshed with the 6k year old earth of the bible... the answer I got was 2 Peter 3:8 - "But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day"... so basically, there could have been a million years between day 1 and day 2 of creation... and dinosaurs could have existed and been extinct before man was even created by god

Basically what I'm saying is, the bible says so much shit, it's always possible to make whatever science discovers fit with their beliefs... so I really don't understand why they actively fight against science... it's not like evolution disproves god, they can always claim god invented evolution or some such
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I am ENGLISH we wrote the word THEORY..
A theory is not FACT IT'S A THEORY ..

You do know many things might need to be wrote again ..
Like light speed..

LOL, ok then. Except we are talking not about "theory" but about "scientific theory".

If you rewrite light speed you'll have to rewrite the definition of a meter. Have at it, maybe you can successfully revive the concept of aether.

You are new so I'll enlighten you... BADlogic and popcorn understand they are wrong... they are simply trying to perpetuate their misinformation

Science theory is as close to fact as it gets, there is no debate among scientists.
Only ignorant religious sheeple talk about "theory isn't fact" or some such... many of them understand they are wrong, but do not care because their religion is more important to them than the truth

Personally, I don't understand their problem with evolution... most christians believe in evolution and have found ways for it to make sense in their own minds...
For example, the church I went to as a child... I had asked about dinosaurs and how millions of years meshed with the 6k year old earth of the bible... the answer I got was 2 Peter 3:8 - "But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day"... so basically, there could have been a million years between day 1 and day 2 of creation... and dinosaurs could have existed and been extinct before man was even created by god

Basically what I'm saying is, the bible says so much shit, it's always possible to make whatever science discovers fit with their beliefs... so I really don't understand why they actively fight against science... it's not like evolution disproves god, they can always claim god invented evolution or some such
Science theory is as close to fact as it gets, there is no debate among scientists..

no debate among scientists  ..So how do they talk about a theory if no debate?..

Science theory is as close to fact..Close to fact? i mean wasn't long ago sky daddies ruled

Fact in science is never really the TRUTH because it can change these theories over time and they can be WRONG in what the theories they talked about..

And that's why they call it scientific THEORIES because it's not absolute fact..
It needs to be studied..

If a scientist says his theory is fact then he ain't no scientist he is a LAIR ..
And plenty of scientist who tell complete lies of the theories they talk about..

And that's why it's called a science theory ..Because it's not FACT..

So stop with the BULL..

SCIENTIFIC THEORIES might be the truth in there minds today BUT they could be WRONG tomorrow.. Wink A theory ..

That's why they don't say SCIENTIFIC FACTS ..Because many things that humans thought was fact turn out to be wrong..

And if your a scientist and you come up with a theory and say it's fact without proving it to be so then your a QUACK..
and yes many a QUACK scientist..

We know we evolved BUT HOW? so we have evolution theories ..
So if we evolved EVOLUTION IS FACT.. Roll Eyes
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June 22, 2017, 08:09:01 PM
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I am ENGLISH we wrote the word THEORY..
A theory is not FACT IT'S A THEORY ..

You do know many things might need to be wrote again ..
Like light speed..

LOL, ok then. Except we are talking not about "theory" but about "scientific theory".

If you rewrite light speed you'll have to rewrite the definition of a meter. Have at it, maybe you can successfully revive the concept of aether.

You are new so I'll enlighten you... BADlogic and popcorn understand they are wrong... they are simply trying to perpetuate their misinformation

Science theory is as close to fact as it gets, there is no debate among scientists.
Only ignorant religious sheeple talk about "theory isn't fact" or some such... many of them understand they are wrong, but do not care because their religion is more important to them than the truth

Personally, I don't understand their problem with evolution... most christians believe in evolution and have found ways for it to make sense in their own minds...
For example, the church I went to as a child... I had asked about dinosaurs and how millions of years meshed with the 6k year old earth of the bible... the answer I got was 2 Peter 3:8 - "But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day"... so basically, there could have been a million years between day 1 and day 2 of creation... and dinosaurs could have existed and been extinct before man was even created by god

Basically what I'm saying is, the bible says so much shit, it's always possible to make whatever science discovers fit with their beliefs... so I really don't understand why they actively fight against science... it's not like evolution disproves god, they can always claim god invented evolution or some such

Science theory is as close to fact as it gets, there is no debate among scientists..

no debate among scientists  ..So how do they talk about a theory if no debate?..

You are being intentionally ignorant, but I'll clarify anyway

There is zero debate whether scientific theory should be treated as fact or "just a hunch"... among scientists, anything called a theory can be relied upon to be an accurate description of reality... scientists will stake their life on a theory (and do so every day)... theory does not mean hypothesis... theory means it has been proven as well as possible given the entirety of information available to the planet

So yes, a scientific theory is a reliable fact that explains the data and predicts future outcomes with 100% reliability... scientists do not debate this, because they all understand this simple concept

If a theory could not 100% reliably predict future outcomes, it would be downgraded to a hypothesis, and not called a theory

Scientists don't debate evolution because there isn't really anything to debate... It's a collection of facts from several different sciences leading to an obvious conclusion...

What aspect of evolution do you believe is debatable?
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Scientific theories are not fact Grin..PROVE THEM TO BE FACT.. Wink..

Like we know it rains fact..Then we had scientific theories on how it rained ..NOW WE NOW FOR FACT how it rains ..
So no more scientific theories on how it rains because we know for fact how it rains ..

So what is your theory on how it RAINS?..
Well you wont have to do any guesses how it rains because we have found out how it rains..

So now scientific theories can we make rain?.  Seeding cloud theories

But at the end of the day A THEORY IS NOT FACT because it would not be called a theory..

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I am ENGLISH we wrote the word THEORY..
A theory is not FACT IT'S A THEORY ..

You do know many things might need to be wrote again ..
Like light speed..

LOL, ok then. Except we are talking not about "theory" but about "scientific theory".

If you rewrite light speed you'll have to rewrite the definition of a meter. Have at it, maybe you can successfully revive the concept of aether.

You are new so I'll enlighten you... BADlogic and popcorn understand they are wrong... they are simply trying to perpetuate their misinformation

Science theory is as close to fact as it gets, there is no debate among scientists.
Only ignorant religious sheeple talk about "theory isn't fact" or some such... many of them understand they are wrong, but do not care because their religion is more important to them than the truth

Personally, I don't understand their problem with evolution... most christians believe in evolution and have found ways for it to make sense in their own minds...
For example, the church I went to as a child... I had asked about dinosaurs and how millions of years meshed with the 6k year old earth of the bible... the answer I got was 2 Peter 3:8 - "But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day"... so basically, there could have been a million years between day 1 and day 2 of creation... and dinosaurs could have existed and been extinct before man was even created by god

Basically what I'm saying is, the bible says so much shit, it's always possible to make whatever science discovers fit with their beliefs... so I really don't understand why they actively fight against science... it's not like evolution disproves god, they can always claim god invented evolution or some such

Science theory is as close to fact as it gets, there is no debate among scientists..

no debate among scientists  ..So how do they talk about a theory if no debate?..

But at the end of the day A THEORY IS NOT FACT because it would not be called a theory..

You are still being intentionally ignorant, so I'll clarify again

A fact is one piece a data... a theory is a collection of data... it could never be called the "fact of evolution" because there is more than 1 piece of data... the best it gets is the "theory of evolution"

I'm sorry you fail to understand the word theory in a scientific context... theory is the BEST it gets, it does not get any better... you cannot prove it more than theory... theory means it is proven beyond any reasonable doubt

There is zero debate whether scientific theory should be treated as fact or "just a hunch"... among scientists, anything called a theory can be relied upon to be an accurate description of reality... scientists will stake their life on a theory (and do so every day)... theory does not mean hypothesis... theory means it has been proven as well as possible given the entirety of information available to the planet... and zero people have come up with a justifiable reason to doubt the theory

So yes, a scientific theory is a reliable fact that explains the data and predicts future outcomes with 100% reliability... scientists do not debate this, because they all understand this simple concept

If a theory could not 100% reliably predict future outcomes, it would be downgraded to a hypothesis, and not called a theory

Scientists don't debate evolution because there isn't really anything to debate... It's a collection of facts from several different sciences leading to an obvious conclusion...

What aspect of evolution do you believe is debatable?
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June 22, 2017, 08:23:54 PM
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I am ENGLISH we wrote the word THEORY..
A theory is not FACT IT'S A THEORY ..

You do know many things might need to be wrote again ..
Like light speed..

LOL, ok then. Except we are talking not about "theory" but about "scientific theory".

If you rewrite light speed you'll have to rewrite the definition of a meter. Have at it, maybe you can successfully revive the concept of aether.

You are new so I'll enlighten you... BADlogic and popcorn understand they are wrong... they are simply trying to perpetuate their misinformation

Science theory is as close to fact as it gets, there is no debate among scientists.
Only ignorant religious sheeple talk about "theory isn't fact" or some such... many of them understand they are wrong, but do not care because their religion is more important to them than the truth

Personally, I don't understand their problem with evolution... most christians believe in evolution and have found ways for it to make sense in their own minds...
For example, the church I went to as a child... I had asked about dinosaurs and how millions of years meshed with the 6k year old earth of the bible... the answer I got was 2 Peter 3:8 - "But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day"... so basically, there could have been a million years between day 1 and day 2 of creation... and dinosaurs could have existed and been extinct before man was even created by god

Basically what I'm saying is, the bible says so much shit, it's always possible to make whatever science discovers fit with their beliefs... so I really don't understand why they actively fight against science... it's not like evolution disproves god, they can always claim god invented evolution or some such

Science theory is as close to fact as it gets, there is no debate among scientists..

no debate among scientists  ..So how do they talk about a theory if no debate?..

You are being intentionally ignorant, but I'll clarify anyway

There is zero debate whether scientific theory should be treated as fact or "just a hunch"... among scientists, anything called a theory can be relied upon to be an accurate description of reality... scientists will stake their life on a theory (and do so every day)... theory does not mean hypothesis... theory means it has been proven as well as possible given the entirety of information available to the planet

So yes, a scientific theory is a reliable fact that explains the data and predicts future outcomes with 100% reliability... scientists do not debate this, because they all understand this simple concept

If a theory could not 100% reliably predict future outcomes, it would be downgraded to a hypothesis, and not called a theory

Scientists don't debate evolution because there isn't really anything to debate... It's a collection of facts from several different sciences leading to an obvious conclusion...

What aspect of evolution do you believe is debatable?
What aspect of evolution do you believe is debatable?

Did we come from the sea or land ..
Did we start from plant life or bacterial life ..

Did we all start at one point like Africa or other places ..

Did we come from apes or did aliens seed apes to turn us into humans ..

Did aliens put us here ..

Did we come from mars and many years someone put us here ..

Is another planet behind the dark side of the moon?

I thinks i could go on debating till this planet blows up..

SO much to know we are only a pin prick with knowledge ..And that's why we have SCIENCE THEORIES ..So we keep guessing and testing to find the truth..WHY so we can SURVIVE..

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