Evolution is a hoax

[zenonramon]

This is so ridiculous, we didn't evolve from monkey... Nowaday monkeys and us evolved from a common ancestor which disappeared since then. Evolution is the only theory that actually makes some sense. It might be proven wrong one day and I am sure that scientists will recongnize another truth

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[Astargath]

Wrong thread buddy, this one is about proving evolution is a hoax which you still haven't, we are still waiting for your evidence.

Thanks for reminding us that evolutionists have been proving and are now in the process of proving that evolution is a hoax, by not finding any proof for evolution in countless man hours of thought about evolution and examination of natural and scientific processes over a couple hundred years and really, over thousands of years.

So, thanks again for reminding us that evolution is a hoax.

Evolution is a fact buddy, do you have evidence against it?

You're close. Evolution talk is a fact. But evolution has never been proven.

Evolution is a hoax.

It has been proven so much that even religious folks accept it. The whole scientific community views it as a fact as well.

[BADecker]

Wrong thread buddy, this one is about proving evolution is a hoax which you still haven't, we are still waiting for your evidence.

Thanks for reminding us that evolutionists have been proving and are now in the process of proving that evolution is a hoax, by not finding any proof for evolution in countless man hours of thought about evolution and examination of natural and scientific processes over a couple hundred years and really, over thousands of years.

So, thanks again for reminding us that evolution is a hoax.

Evolution is a fact buddy, do you have evidence against it?

You're close. Evolution talk is a fact. But evolution has never been proven.

Evolution is a hoax.

It has been proven so much that even religious folks accept it. The whole scientific community views it as a fact as well.

Certainly the talk of evolution has been proven. After all, you can find books and Internet sites and scientific papers all over the place.

The thing that you can't find is even one single proof for actual evolution itself. All the past, supposed proofs have been shown to not be proofs, one way or another. All the present evidences have been shown to possibly be something else.

The closest that there is to proof for evolution is when evolution is equated with simple change or adaptation. So, why use the word "evolution" rather than the word "change" or the word "adaptation?" After all, evolution theory doesn't match these evidences as evolution.

If there were some standing proof for evolution, somebody could list it. Since it can't be listed, evolution in the theory sense is just hopes and dreams and a lot of talk.

Evolution is a hoax.



BTW, if somebody found something that was reasonable evidence for evolution, at this stage of the game, because of all the past failures, this one could not be proof... at least not right away. The past has shown us that this one would, with great probability, be proven to NOT be evolution, just as all the rest have.

[BADecker]

Wrong thread buddy, this one is about proving evolution is a hoax which you still haven't, we are still waiting for your evidence.

Thanks for reminding us that evolutionists have been proving and are now in the process of proving that evolution is a hoax, by not finding any proof for evolution in countless man hours of thought about evolution and examination of natural and scientific processes over a couple hundred years and really, over thousands of years.

So, thanks again for reminding us that evolution is a hoax.

Evolution is a fact buddy, do you have evidence against it?

You're close. Evolution talk is a fact. But evolution has never been proven.

Evolution is a hoax.

It has been proven so much that even religious folks accept it. The whole scientific community views it as a fact as well.

What in the world do you mean by "the whole scientific community?" If you literally mean the whole scientific community, you are completely and grossly mistaken.

Evolution is a hoax.

[fafapol]

If you are going to put religion into Science, God has no place on it. If you are going to put Science on Religion, morality will contradict the theories of Science. Therefore, it is a big mistake if you are going to see the perspective of evolution by understanding it using religion and it will be hoax. If you will see it on scientific way, you will be seeing the real answers behind the theories of the scientist.

[BADecker]

If you are going to put religion into Science, God has no place on it. If you are going to put Science on Religion, morality will contradict the theories of Science. Therefore, it is a big mistake if you are going to see the perspective of evolution by understanding it using religion and it will be hoax. If you will see it on scientific way, you will be seeing the real answers behind the theories of the scientist.

One can theorize all day long. But if the theory has no practical evidence or factual proof, that theory is only good for "evolving" additional ideas.

Show a real, factual proof that evolution exists. All the evidence can be interpreted as adaptation that does not agree with evolution theory.

There isn't even one practical evolution fact that doesn't fit something else better.

Evolution is a hoax. Because it is a hoax, for those who believe it to be true, it is a religion. It will remain a religion until it is proven, or until it is understood to be the hoax that it is.

[Astargath]

Wrong thread buddy, this one is about proving evolution is a hoax which you still haven't, we are still waiting for your evidence.

Thanks for reminding us that evolutionists have been proving and are now in the process of proving that evolution is a hoax, by not finding any proof for evolution in countless man hours of thought about evolution and examination of natural and scientific processes over a couple hundred years and really, over thousands of years.

So, thanks again for reminding us that evolution is a hoax.

Evolution is a fact buddy, do you have evidence against it?

You're close. Evolution talk is a fact. But evolution has never been proven.

Evolution is a hoax.

It has been proven so much that even religious folks accept it. The whole scientific community views it as a fact as well.

What in the world do you mean by "the whole scientific community?" If you literally mean the whole scientific community, you are completely and grossly mistaken.

Evolution is a hoax.

97.3% of Biological Sciences department heads accept there is no scientific controversy over evolution.[2]
Only 700 out of 480,000 earth and life scientists (0.14%) subscribe to literal biblical creationism.[3]
Acceptance of evolution tends to increase with level of education.[4][5]
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Acceptance_of_evolution

Few religious bodies have formal statements on their position, though many do support the idea that evolution is correct (or at least "correct enough") and should be taught in schools. This is the position taken by many mainline Protestant churches (many of which signed on to the Clergy Letter Project) and some Muslim groups.

Theistic evolution is the accepted official position of the Roman Catholic Church

In 1986, an amicus curiae brief, signed by 72 US Nobel Prize winners, 17 state academies of science and 7 other scientific societies, asked the US Supreme Court in Edwards v. Aguillard, to reject a Louisiana state law requiring that where evolutionary science was taught in public schools, creation science must also be taught.

The American Association for the Advancement of Science, the world's largest general scientific society with more than 130,000 members and over 262 affiliated societies and academies of science including over 10 million individuals, has made several statements and issued several press releases in support of evolution.


Do your own research, you can start here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution

Google is your friend.

[popcorn1]

This is so ridiculous, we didn't evolve from monkey... Nowaday monkeys and us evolved from a common ancestor which disappeared since then. Evolution is the only theory that actually makes some sense. It might be proven wrong one day and I am sure that scientists will recongnize another truth

WE EVOLVED FROM MONKEYS 

What is your common ancestor ?  so if you had no gran parents would you be here today?
Now imagine your cousins and they carry on having children eventually you split apart from your original
gran parents so those become your common ancestors BUT you wouldn't evolved to have so many children from your original gran parents if they never give birth to your parents ..

Like this..
s - YouTube
Video for salamander evolution in action▶ 3:17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjcFSy1KCTI
17 Sep 2007 - Uploaded by phoenixshade3

Now if you watch the video i will prove how we evolved from monkeys ..

Imagine a monkey had a child and just like the salamander who went around the mountain
If that monkey never had that child then the next monkey wouldn't of travelled anywhere because they be no monkeys ..

The Monkey done the same as a salamander ..
Now are you telling me your great gran parents you never evolved from them?
Did your cousins evolve from you ? NO they evolved from the same gran parents as you BUT as time goes on you will split in one direction from your cousins you go 1 way and they go another..

Now why humans haven't evolved into another form is because we evolved to use TECHNOLOGY
to benefit us to stay alive ..

Now what if we become half machine half human ?..
How do you know we might evolve into growing metal bones the fact is we don't know YET because we are still evolving ..

Now if you look humans already wanting to mix human flesh with metal and technology implanted
into our bodies ..

Maybe at birth your mother might TWEEK you up a bit ?..
Bionic legs eye who knows but all to make you live longer and be stronger and smarter and faster..

SO WE EVOLVED FROM MONKEYS  ..

The fact we could of evolved from many things before the monkey is yet to be discovered ..
BUT all excellent because it makes our planet way way smarter by the fact we LEARN about our earth
and our UNIVERSE ..

If the salamander never had a child to travel then how did a new type of salamander get around the mountain ?..

So did the new salamander who travelled around the mountain evolve from the old one?

Everyday evolves into a new one

[popcorn1]

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EVERY DAY EVOLVES 

[BADecker]

We're beginning to see that science doesn't really know what they are talking about, including evolution scientists.

This Is The First Detailed Footage of DNA Replication, And It Wasn't What We Expected

"It undermines a great deal of what's in the textbooks."

Here's proof of how far we've come in science - in June 2017, researchers recorded up-close footage of a single DNA molecule replicating itself for the first time, and it's raised questions about how we assumed the process played out.

The real-time footage revealed that this fundamental part of life incorporates an unexpected amount of 'randomness', and it could force a major rethink into how genetic replication occurs without mutations.

"It's a real paradigm shift, and undermines a great deal of what's in the textbooks," said one of the team, Stephen Kowalczykowski from the University of California, Davis.

"It's a different way of thinking about replication that raises new questions."

Video Imaging of DNA Replication

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sne1uO6RxLE


Read more at https://www.sciencealert.com/dna-replication-first-footage-unexpected.

[MJK_Anfaenger]

No. The Bible does not originated from the Torah - it is the Torah and the book of prophets, and the New Testament Tongue. It is Jewish Bible aka Tanah - the Old Testament is the Jewish holy book. It is our holy book. Because christians are the new Israel of the spirit.

Talmud - the book that judaism mostly uses is not a holy book - the Rabbi themselves admitt that.

It is the original Tanah the Word of God. Muslims have deeply edited version of the same thing. They rewrote what they had not like just to justify their tribality. From a Jewish and Christian perspective - editing the Word of God is something noone should do - it is forbidden.

Editing the word of God resulted in muslims inventing the evolution. It came to Europe via Templars and their orders. Templars then have restructured themselfs to masons. So it was masons that are behind that evolution thingy. So it should be no surprise that a mason write another mason a peer-review and screw other nonmasons. Does that surprise anyone?

Darwin was teologian. His father was a teologian. It was a fully grown religious concept of evolution when Darwin had signed his silly book. His book was supposedly written by someone more intelligent as C. Darwin was supposed to be dumbest of all the Darwins family.

Just for your personal information. I know it sounds deeply confusing from a pop-culture perspective.

Hey there, finally I can get back to you. I didn't say that the bible originated from the Torah, but that some parts of it did. I'm not knowledgeable enough to judge which scripture came first, so I'm not gonna.

You said something to the effect of "editing the bible is forbidden". I find that interesting, as I'm sure you're aware that the bible itself, in its over 2000 years of existence, has been abundantly edited? And how could it not? Simply translating text from one language to another requires stylistic decisions and interpretation by the translator. For example, when the Torah was translated from Hebrew to Greek in 250 BC; or compare different bible versions - there's over a hundred different versions in English alone which deviate from each other in different aspects. If this is not editing, what is?

And this doesn't even touch on the elephant in the room - the fact that the very books of the bible haven been selected by clergymen. Over many centuries parts of the bible have been added or taken out. That's why today the Roman Catholic, Protestant and Orthodox versions differ significantly from each other and from the Septuaginta, the original Greek bible (or rather the old testament).

I'm not sure if you're trolling with the "muslims invented evolution"-bit. I'm sure devout muslims hate the thought of evolution just as much as you do

[Astargath]

We're beginning to see that science doesn't really know what they are talking about, including evolution scientists.

This Is The First Detailed Footage of DNA Replication, And It Wasn't What We Expected

"It undermines a great deal of what's in the textbooks."

Here's proof of how far we've come in science - in June 2017, researchers recorded up-close footage of a single DNA molecule replicating itself for the first time, and it's raised questions about how we assumed the process played out.

The real-time footage revealed that this fundamental part of life incorporates an unexpected amount of 'randomness', and it could force a major rethink into how genetic replication occurs without mutations.

"It's a real paradigm shift, and undermines a great deal of what's in the textbooks," said one of the team, Stephen Kowalczykowski from the University of California, Davis.

"It's a different way of thinking about replication that raises new questions."

Video Imaging of DNA Replication

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sne1uO6RxLE


Read more at https://www.sciencealert.com/dna-replication-first-footage-unexpected.

Ignoring my last post I see. No one has claimed that evolution theory is perfect, in fact I said many times is simply the best we have right now, science works that way, it evolves in a sense, heh. If it turns out that we were wrong about some things, science simply discards them and makes a new theory, until then, evolution theory still prevails.

[skymberloh]

Why there are still monkeys around if they were part of our evolutionary beginnings ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz0gFarCfBE

All my life I never believed in Darwin's theory of evolution. I just want to base everythig in Holy Bible, evrything is in there, I mean maybe we could not interpret some things written on it but everything written on it is good and ia happening.

[BADecker]

Ignoring my last post I see. No one has claimed that evolution theory is perfect, in fact I said many times is simply the best we have right now, science works that way, it evolves in a sense, heh. If it turns out that we were wrong about some things, science simply discards them and makes a new theory, until then, evolution theory still prevails.

That's a mighty noble and practical thing you say. Especially the part about the theory not being perfect.

So, guess what part of the Theory of Evolution is not perfect? All of it. The fact that it continues to try to find evolution, when over the past years since Darwin, all there is, is talk.

Oh, sure, there are experiments and diggings. None of them are evolution without the talk.

There is no proof for evolution in all of it.

Evolutionists looking for evolution are like a mouse in a maze looking for some non-existent cheese. Look and look. Then look some more.

Now that's not the problem with the evolution scene. There's nothing wrong with looking for evolution in every corner with every iota of energy and cleverness you have, or even for thousands of years. Here's what the problem is.

The problem is publishing paperwork that says evolution exists, when there is nothing - not the slightest scrap - of evolution ever having been proven at all... while at the same time there are almost countless failures in finding evolution. The problem is the lying that evolution exists.

Evolution is a hoax.

[MJK_Anfaenger]

Why there are still monkeys around if they were part of our evolutionary beginnings ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz0gFarCfBE

All my life I never believed in Darwin's theory of evolution. I just want to base everythig in Holy Bible, evrything is in there, I mean maybe we could not interpret some things written on it but everything written on it is good and ia happening.

Let me help you guys out with that one by rephrasing your question "Why are there still Africans around when there's African-Americans?"; "Why are there still lizards when there's snakes?" etc. See what I mean?

One line of monkey evolved into apes, one line of apes evolved into humans. Naturally, these are just categories we put on top of a process that has been going on for millions of years, so it's a bit arbitrary, but, oh well, it makes things a bit more easy to understand for our stone age brains.

[Przemax]

I'm not sure if you're trolling with the "muslims invented evolution"-bit. I'm sure devout muslims hate the thought of evolution just as much as you do Smiley

Ehhhhh..... Google it. Most muslims have no problems with evolution. And you think I do troll? When you do not even google? You just say what you think..... Ok.... As you have said you know almost nothing about the subject...

Hey there, finally I can get back to you. I didn't say that the bible originated from the Torah, but that some parts of it did. I'm not knowledgeable enough to judge which scripture came first, so I'm not gonna.

You don't have to know anything about it. I HAVE TOLD YOU! BIBLE IS THE TORAH. What don't you get. Every word in the Torah EVERY word of it is in the Bible - should I make it bold? There are a book of prophets in the Bible that are not Torah - that is a Tanah - the original Jewish Bible. We have the SAME BIBLE! What don't you get? It is the same thing. We have an additional books that Jewish do not have called the New Testament. You do not have to know anything ok? You just have to read with understanding what I have written......

You said something to the effect of "editing the bible is forbidden". I find that interesting, as I'm sure you're aware that the bible itself, in its over 2000 years of existence, has been abundantly edited? And how could it not? Simply translating text from one language to another requires stylistic decisions and interpretation by the translator. For example, when the Torah was translated from Hebrew to Greek in 250 BC; or compare different bible versions - there's over a hundred different versions in English alone which deviate from each other in different aspects. If this is not editing, what is?

If you do not see the difference between editing the original material that is still there and translations, then I am speechless... I rest my case. There is no way we could communicate like a rational beings.

And this doesn't even touch on the elephant in the room - the fact that the very books of the bible haven been selected by clergymen. Over many centuries parts of the bible have been added or taken out. That's why today the Roman Catholic, Protestant and Orthodox versions differ significantly from each other and from the Septuaginta, the original Greek bible (or rather the old testament).

There are more books that have been selected than there were books that were deselected. You can read them all. I do have my doubts about them if some should be labelled as a holy scripture additionaly. But the ones that are there are 100% there for a reason. Have you read the claimed text that was supposed to be holy? They are hmmm sometimes weird. I know weirdness does not mean anything, but in the Bible are 100% proof texts that everyone can agree upon.


Protestant and Catholic versions differ within 3 books I think. Very short books, that plays absolutely no role in the Bible. If you are talking about the translations - yes they do differ, but what stand before you and original text? Nothing!

Let me help you guys out with that one by rephrasing your question "Why are there still Africans around when there's African-Americans?"; "Why are there still lizards when there's snakes?" etc. See what I mean?

No. You do not understand that creationism does not think that people do not adapt. But making comparison with African and Afro-Americans, and lizards and snakes just shows you, like every evolutionist overstate the matter of beings.

Africans and Afro-Americans are the homo sapiens. Lizards and snakes are not only different specie, but a different animal kigdom.

One line of monkey evolved into apes, one line of apes evolved into humans. Naturally, these are just categories we put on top of a process that has been going on for millions of years, so it's a bit arbitrary, but, oh well, it makes things a bit more easy to understand for our stone age brains.

Show me the monkey... What monkey and where. You do even guess where it was - in north Africa. What makes you not find a single shred of evidence? That is just silly talking. There are a lot of sand and rivers... It should be so easy to find that it should be ridiculously easy.

[MJK_Anfaenger]

Ignoring my last post I see. No one has claimed that evolution theory is perfect, in fact I said many times is simply the best we have right now, science works that way, it evolves in a sense, heh. If it turns out that we were wrong about some things, science simply discards them and makes a new theory, until then, evolution theory still prevails.

That's a mighty noble and practical thing you say. Especially the part about the theory not being perfect.

So, guess what part of the Theory of Evolution is not perfect? All of it. The fact that it continues to try to find evolution, when over the past years since Darwin, all there is, is talk.

Oh, sure, there are experiments and diggings. None of them are evolution without the talk.

There is no proof for evolution in all of it.

Evolutionists looking for evolution are like a mouse in a maze looking for some non-existent cheese. Look and look. Then look some more.

Now that's not the problem with the evolution scene. There's nothing wrong with looking for evolution in every corner with every iota of energy and cleverness you have, or even for thousands of years. Here's what the problem is.

The problem is publishing paperwork that says evolution exists, when there is nothing - not the slightest scrap - of evolution ever having been proven at all... while at the same time there are almost countless failures in finding evolution. The problem is the lying that evolution exists.

Evolution is a hoax.

Hey, maybe you're right, maybe we should disregard over a hundred year's worth of research by countless independent scholars and scientists and instead obey the commands of this weird old book that tells us that mixing fabric, eating pork or touching menstruating women is taboo.
Maybe you should start first and get rid of this devil computer, which functions according to the findings of countless independent scholars and scientists, cause we all now what that is worth.

Or hey, maybe try out that Quran-thing, or one of the thousands of other religions that mankind invented

[Przemax]

Ignoring my last post I see. No one has claimed that evolution theory is perfect, in fact I said many times is simply the best we have right now, science works that way, it evolves in a sense, heh. If it turns out that we were wrong about some things, science simply discards them and makes a new theory, until then, evolution theory still prevails.

That's a mighty noble and practical thing you say. Especially the part about the theory not being perfect.

So, guess what part of the Theory of Evolution is not perfect? All of it. The fact that it continues to try to find evolution, when over the past years since Darwin, all there is, is talk.

Oh, sure, there are experiments and diggings. None of them are evolution without the talk.

There is no proof for evolution in all of it.

Evolutionists looking for evolution are like a mouse in a maze looking for some non-existent cheese. Look and look. Then look some more.

Now that's not the problem with the evolution scene. There's nothing wrong with looking for evolution in every corner with every iota of energy and cleverness you have, or even for thousands of years. Here's what the problem is.

The problem is publishing paperwork that says evolution exists, when there is nothing - not the slightest scrap - of evolution ever having been proven at all... while at the same time there are almost countless failures in finding evolution. The problem is the lying that evolution exists.

Evolution is a hoax.

Hey, maybe you're right, maybe we should disregard over a hundred year's worth of research by countless independent scholars and scientists and instead obey the commands of this weird old book that tells us that mixing fabric, eating pork or touching menstruating women is taboo.
Maybe you should start first and get rid of this devil computer, which functions according to the findings of countless independent scholars and scientists, cause we all now what that is worth.

Or hey, maybe try out that Quran-thing, or one of the thousands of other religions that mankind invented

If you would know the meaning of words you are using you would delete your post entirely. Answering is pointless IMHO. The answer should be a comparision between the dictionary and your contradiction of it.

[MJK_Anfaenger]

Ehhhhh..... Google it. Most muslims have no problems with evolution. And you think I do troll? When you do not even google? You just say what you think..... Ok.... As you have said you know almost nothing about the subject...

Weeell, I'll just let the facts speak for themselves on that one:

Turkey's schools will stop teaching evolution: https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2017/08/20/540965889/in-turkey-schools-will-stop-teaching-evolution-this-fall

Saudi-Arabia banned the teaching of evolution; in Egypt, Lebanon, and Tunisia the majority of students and teachers reject evolution theory http://www.nielsenlab.org/2016/02/teaching-evolution-in-the-middle-east/

Sure, that's not the entire muslim world, apparently in Iran it is taught and I just did a very quick search; but that does represent a significant part of it, wouldn't you agree?

I'm here to learn other people's perspective. Surely your holy book has something positive to say about those seeking knowledge?

Oh and I think if you want to read the original bible you'd have to be able to speak Greek, so for me that's definitely an obstacle

So I garner from your reply that nothing less, than an immaculate fossil record for the last few million years, perfectly showing the transition from one species to another, will suffice for you? By the way, I'm sure we're all from the same animal kingdom, as we all share parts of our DNA. But please do elaborate on Creationisms' concept of adaption, I haven't heard about it before!

So, gotta go to work, catch you later.

[GenaBoom]

we wouldnt be here if that statement was true. in mother nature everything is so logically connected its even hard to imagine. the haox might be in our heads, but not in evolution and nature))