Evolution is a hoax

[af_newbie]

Again we see that mitochondrial DNA shows that people came from one man/woman combination 100,000 to 200,000 years ago. Animals show the same.


Did a mysterious extinction event precede Adam and Eve?

In one of the most provocative and misunderstood studies of the year, scientists in the U.S. and Switzerland have made an astonishing discovery: All humans alive today are the offspring of a common father and mother – an Adam and Eve – who walked the planet 100,000 to 200,000 years ago, which by evolutionary standards is like yesterday. Moreover, the same is true of nine out of every 10 animal species, meaning that nearly all of Earth’s creatures living today sprang into being recently from some seminal, Big Bang-like event.

Mark Stoeckle at Rockefeller University and David Thaler at the University of Basel reached this striking conclusion after analyzing the DNA “bar codes” of five million animals from 100,000 different species. The bar codes are snippets of DNA that reside outside the nuclei of living cells – so-called mitochondrial DNA, which mothers pass down from generation to generation.

With each reproduction, errors creep into the bar code, as they do when you repeatedly photocopy a document. By measuring the accumulated errors – the blurriness or “diversity” among the bar codes – scientists are able to infer the passage of time.

That’s how Stoeckle and Thaler concluded that ninety percent of all animal species alive today come from parents that all began giving birth at roughly the same time, less than a quarter-million years ago. “This conclusion is very surprising,” Thaler avers, “and I fought against it as hard as I could.”

I thought your God implied that Earth is less than 10,000 years old.  He flooded the world to kill all fauna and flora, except the animals that were eating each other in a cesspool on the Noak's ark to restart humanity from one big incest party. LOL.

Does your God suffer from an Alzheimer's disease?

Is it possible that the facts are actually getting through to you?

[BADecker]

Again we see that mitochondrial DNA shows that people came from one man/woman combination 100,000 to 200,000 years ago. Animals show the same.


Did a mysterious extinction event precede Adam and Eve?

In one of the most provocative and misunderstood studies of the year, scientists in the U.S. and Switzerland have made an astonishing discovery: All humans alive today are the offspring of a common father and mother – an Adam and Eve – who walked the planet 100,000 to 200,000 years ago, which by evolutionary standards is like yesterday. Moreover, the same is true of nine out of every 10 animal species, meaning that nearly all of Earth’s creatures living today sprang into being recently from some seminal, Big Bang-like event.

Mark Stoeckle at Rockefeller University and David Thaler at the University of Basel reached this striking conclusion after analyzing the DNA “bar codes” of five million animals from 100,000 different species. The bar codes are snippets of DNA that reside outside the nuclei of living cells – so-called mitochondrial DNA, which mothers pass down from generation to generation.

With each reproduction, errors creep into the bar code, as they do when you repeatedly photocopy a document. By measuring the accumulated errors – the blurriness or “diversity” among the bar codes – scientists are able to infer the passage of time.

That’s how Stoeckle and Thaler concluded that ninety percent of all animal species alive today come from parents that all began giving birth at roughly the same time, less than a quarter-million years ago. “This conclusion is very surprising,” Thaler avers, “and I fought against it as hard as I could.”

I thought your God implied that Earth is less than 10,000 years old.  He flooded the world to kill all fauna and flora, except the animals that were eating each other in a cesspool on the Noak's ark to restart humanity from one big incest party. LOL.

Does your God suffer from an Alzheimer's disease?

Is it possible that the facts are actually getting through to you?

Why do you think things about God like those? Oh, of course. You have your own religion.

Haven't you read the Bible? God didn't imply that the earth is less than 10,000 years old. He said it, albeit not directly. Before the creation of light, time and days were not set in place so that years can be understood as years. Since the first day, the Bible shows us there has been less than 7,000 years.

You suffer from spiritual blindness.

[af_newbie]

Again we see that mitochondrial DNA shows that people came from one man/woman combination 100,000 to 200,000 years ago. Animals show the same.


Did a mysterious extinction event precede Adam and Eve?

In one of the most provocative and misunderstood studies of the year, scientists in the U.S. and Switzerland have made an astonishing discovery: All humans alive today are the offspring of a common father and mother – an Adam and Eve – who walked the planet 100,000 to 200,000 years ago, which by evolutionary standards is like yesterday. Moreover, the same is true of nine out of every 10 animal species, meaning that nearly all of Earth’s creatures living today sprang into being recently from some seminal, Big Bang-like event.

Mark Stoeckle at Rockefeller University and David Thaler at the University of Basel reached this striking conclusion after analyzing the DNA “bar codes” of five million animals from 100,000 different species. The bar codes are snippets of DNA that reside outside the nuclei of living cells – so-called mitochondrial DNA, which mothers pass down from generation to generation.

With each reproduction, errors creep into the bar code, as they do when you repeatedly photocopy a document. By measuring the accumulated errors – the blurriness or “diversity” among the bar codes – scientists are able to infer the passage of time.

That’s how Stoeckle and Thaler concluded that ninety percent of all animal species alive today come from parents that all began giving birth at roughly the same time, less than a quarter-million years ago. “This conclusion is very surprising,” Thaler avers, “and I fought against it as hard as I could.”

I thought your God implied that Earth is less than 10,000 years old.  He flooded the world to kill all fauna and flora, except the animals that were eating each other in a cesspool on the Noak's ark to restart humanity from one big incest party. LOL.

Does your God suffer from an Alzheimer's disease?

Is it possible that the facts are actually getting through to you?

Why do you think things about God like those? Oh, of course. You have your own religion.

Haven't you read the Bible? God didn't imply that the earth is less than 10,000 years old. He said it, albeit not directly. Before the creation of light, time and days were not set in place so that years can be understood as years. Since the first day, the Bible shows us there has been less than 7,000 years.

You suffer from spiritual blindness.

100,000 > 7,000

No issues?  Not one?

[BADecker]

Again we see that mitochondrial DNA shows that people came from one man/woman combination 100,000 to 200,000 years ago. Animals show the same.


Did a mysterious extinction event precede Adam and Eve?

In one of the most provocative and misunderstood studies of the year, scientists in the U.S. and Switzerland have made an astonishing discovery: All humans alive today are the offspring of a common father and mother – an Adam and Eve – who walked the planet 100,000 to 200,000 years ago, which by evolutionary standards is like yesterday. Moreover, the same is true of nine out of every 10 animal species, meaning that nearly all of Earth’s creatures living today sprang into being recently from some seminal, Big Bang-like event.

Mark Stoeckle at Rockefeller University and David Thaler at the University of Basel reached this striking conclusion after analyzing the DNA “bar codes” of five million animals from 100,000 different species. The bar codes are snippets of DNA that reside outside the nuclei of living cells – so-called mitochondrial DNA, which mothers pass down from generation to generation.

With each reproduction, errors creep into the bar code, as they do when you repeatedly photocopy a document. By measuring the accumulated errors – the blurriness or “diversity” among the bar codes – scientists are able to infer the passage of time.

That’s how Stoeckle and Thaler concluded that ninety percent of all animal species alive today come from parents that all began giving birth at roughly the same time, less than a quarter-million years ago. “This conclusion is very surprising,” Thaler avers, “and I fought against it as hard as I could.”

I thought your God implied that Earth is less than 10,000 years old.  He flooded the world to kill all fauna and flora, except the animals that were eating each other in a cesspool on the Noak's ark to restart humanity from one big incest party. LOL.

Does your God suffer from an Alzheimer's disease?

Is it possible that the facts are actually getting through to you?

Why do you think things about God like those? Oh, of course. You have your own religion.

Haven't you read the Bible? God didn't imply that the earth is less than 10,000 years old. He said it, albeit not directly. Before the creation of light, time and days were not set in place so that years can be understood as years. Since the first day, the Bible shows us there has been less than 7,000 years.

You suffer from spiritual blindness.

100,000 > 7,000

No issues?  Not one?

Again, you can't seem to think beyond your nose, or so, right?

Just because I post an article doesn't mean that I am acknowledging it to be 100% factually true.

The scientists in the article are simply included the multi-billion-year standard universe age in their findings. Their idea wasn't to refute the standard age. Their idea was to refute the man/animal, standard, evolution times.

In the article one of the scientists said he fought his own findings with all his strength, but couldn't find any way around what he had discovered. In other words, standard evolution doesn't know what it is talking about. And further scientific investigation is proving it.

Ultimately, when science investigates far enough, they will find that the universe is less than 7,000 years old. And that the physics mixture that is beyond (before?) the first day, can't be understood by the organized physics that we have today. In fact, that is the big reason why honest scientists think that the universe is billions of years old... the unsettled physics mix before the first day.

No issues at all. Just a lot of assumptions on your part, and on the parts of many people like you... like the assumption that just because things are happening the way they are today, that they always happened that way.

[af_newbie]

Again we see that mitochondrial DNA shows that people came from one man/woman combination 100,000 to 200,000 years ago. Animals show the same.


Did a mysterious extinction event precede Adam and Eve?

In one of the most provocative and misunderstood studies of the year, scientists in the U.S. and Switzerland have made an astonishing discovery: All humans alive today are the offspring of a common father and mother – an Adam and Eve – who walked the planet 100,000 to 200,000 years ago, which by evolutionary standards is like yesterday. Moreover, the same is true of nine out of every 10 animal species, meaning that nearly all of Earth’s creatures living today sprang into being recently from some seminal, Big Bang-like event.

Mark Stoeckle at Rockefeller University and David Thaler at the University of Basel reached this striking conclusion after analyzing the DNA “bar codes” of five million animals from 100,000 different species. The bar codes are snippets of DNA that reside outside the nuclei of living cells – so-called mitochondrial DNA, which mothers pass down from generation to generation.

With each reproduction, errors creep into the bar code, as they do when you repeatedly photocopy a document. By measuring the accumulated errors – the blurriness or “diversity” among the bar codes – scientists are able to infer the passage of time.

That’s how Stoeckle and Thaler concluded that ninety percent of all animal species alive today come from parents that all began giving birth at roughly the same time, less than a quarter-million years ago. “This conclusion is very surprising,” Thaler avers, “and I fought against it as hard as I could.”

I thought your God implied that Earth is less than 10,000 years old.  He flooded the world to kill all fauna and flora, except the animals that were eating each other in a cesspool on the Noak's ark to restart humanity from one big incest party. LOL.

Does your God suffer from an Alzheimer's disease?

Is it possible that the facts are actually getting through to you?

Why do you think things about God like those? Oh, of course. You have your own religion.

Haven't you read the Bible? God didn't imply that the earth is less than 10,000 years old. He said it, albeit not directly. Before the creation of light, time and days were not set in place so that years can be understood as years. Since the first day, the Bible shows us there has been less than 7,000 years.

You suffer from spiritual blindness.

100,000 > 7,000

No issues?  Not one?

Again, you can't seem to think beyond your nose, or so, right?

Just because I post an article doesn't mean that I am acknowledging it to be 100% factually true.

The scientists in the article are simply included the multi-billion-year standard universe age in their findings. Their idea wasn't to refute the standard age. Their idea was to refute the man/animal, standard, evolution times.

In the article one of the scientists said he fought his own findings with all his strength, but couldn't find any way around what he had discovered. In other words, standard evolution doesn't know what it is talking about. And further scientific investigation is proving it.

Ultimately, when science investigates far enough, they will find that the universe is less than 7,000 years old. And that the physics mixture that is beyond (before?) the first day, can't be understood by the organized physics that we have today. In fact, that is the big reason why honest scientists think that the universe is billions of years old... the unsettled physics mix before the first day.

No issues at all. Just a lot of assumptions on your part, and on the parts of many people like you... like the assumption that just because things are happening the way they are today, that they always happened that way.

I think the term you are looking for is cognitive dissonance.

[BADecker]

Again, you can't seem to think beyond your nose, or so, right?

Just because I post an article doesn't mean that I am acknowledging it to be 100% factually true.

The scientists in the article are simply included the multi-billion-year standard universe age in their findings. Their idea wasn't to refute the standard age. Their idea was to refute the man/animal, standard, evolution times.

In the article one of the scientists said he fought his own findings with all his strength, but couldn't find any way around what he had discovered. In other words, standard evolution doesn't know what it is talking about. And further scientific investigation is proving it.

Ultimately, when science investigates far enough, they will find that the universe is less than 7,000 years old. And that the physics mixture that is beyond (before?) the first day, can't be understood by the organized physics that we have today. In fact, that is the big reason why honest scientists think that the universe is billions of years old... the unsettled physics mix before the first day.

No issues at all. Just a lot of assumptions on your part, and on the parts of many people like you... like the assumption that just because things are happening the way they are today, that they always happened that way.

I think the term you are looking for is cognitive dissonance.

I don't think so. After all, you are the one who found it.     

[Astargath]

Science proved beyond a doubt that the earth and universe are far older than 10.000 years old, end of the debate, bible is fiction.

[ATMD]

"With each reproduction, errors creep into the bar code, as they do when you repeatedly photocopy a document. By measuring the accumulated errors – the blurriness or “diversity” among the bar codes – scientists are able to infer the passage of time.

That’s how Stoeckle and Thaler concluded that ninety percent of all animal species alive today come from parents that all began giving birth at roughly the same time, less than a quarter-million years ago. “This conclusion is very surprising,” Thaler avers, “and I fought against it as hard as I could.”

The flaws with these experiments are the same as carbon dating factors.

• The assumption that the speed of "blurriness" (decay rate) is constant throughout history from the beginning
  
  The assumption that no external contamination occurred to slow down or speed up DNA diversity.
  
  The assumption that DNA was 100% perfect in the beginning
  
  The assumption that the only cause of DNA blurriness is due to one single process.
  
  The assumption that environmental conditions today are the same as they are in the beginning

etc ..

It is interesting to read though. Thanks for the article.

[BADecker]

Science proved beyond a doubt that the earth and universe are far older than 10.000 years old, end of the debate, bible is fiction.

Now you are telling us that science has a time machine, or at least, a time viewer.

 

[Astargath]

Science proved beyond a doubt that the earth and universe are far older than 10.000 years old, end of the debate, bible is fiction.

Now you are telling us that science has a time machine, or at least, a time viewer.

 

Aren't you the one telling us you have a time machine? Have you seen God? Have you seen him create the universe?

[BADecker]

Science proved beyond a doubt that the earth and universe are far older than 10.000 years old, end of the debate, bible is fiction.

Now you are telling us that science has a time machine, or at least, a time viewer.

 

Aren't you the one telling us you have a time machine? Have you seen God? Have you seen him create the universe?

Eye witness report called the Bible.   

[Astargath]

Science proved beyond a doubt that the earth and universe are far older than 10.000 years old, end of the debate, bible is fiction.

Now you are telling us that science has a time machine, or at least, a time viewer.

 

Aren't you the one telling us you have a time machine? Have you seen God? Have you seen him create the universe?

Eye witness report called the Bible.   

And science proves the earth is older than 10.000 years. Also, science/experiments > eye witnesses which are proven to be unreliable, specially when it's a long amount of time.

[BADecker]

Science proved beyond a doubt that the earth and universe are far older than 10.000 years old, end of the debate, bible is fiction.

Now you are telling us that science has a time machine, or at least, a time viewer.

 

Aren't you the one telling us you have a time machine? Have you seen God? Have you seen him create the universe?

Eye witness report called the Bible.   

And science proves the earth is older than 10.000 years. Also, science/experiments > eye witnesses which are proven to be unreliable, specially when it's a long amount of time.

Of course, we all know you are into propaganda rather than science. All the scientists who extrapolate into the past, state that they don't know if they missed something. They all state that it only looks like. That isn't proof. That is exactly the opposite of proof.

Regarding the eye witnesses, none of them paint an exact picture with all the details. Many of them explain what they saw with descriptions of what it looked like to them. But the genealogies and dating times are accurate.

[Astargath]

Science proved beyond a doubt that the earth and universe are far older than 10.000 years old, end of the debate, bible is fiction.

Now you are telling us that science has a time machine, or at least, a time viewer.

 

Aren't you the one telling us you have a time machine? Have you seen God? Have you seen him create the universe?

Eye witness report called the Bible.   

And science proves the earth is older than 10.000 years. Also, science/experiments > eye witnesses which are proven to be unreliable, specially when it's a long amount of time.

Of course, we all know you are into propaganda rather than science. All the scientists who extrapolate into the past, state that they don't know if they missed something. They all state that it only looks like. That isn't proof. That is exactly the opposite of proof.

Regarding the eye witnesses, none of them paint an exact picture with all the details. Many of them explain what they saw with descriptions of what it looked like to them. But the genealogies and dating times are accurate.

No reason to trust ''eye witnesses'' Do you know someone that knew someone that knew someone, etc etc until God?

[bluefirecorp_]

There might be hoaxes regarding evolution, but evolution itself isn't a hoax.

Evolution:

evolution
[ev-o-lu-tion]

noun

1. any process of formation or growth; development:
2. a product of such development; something evolved:
3. change in the gene pool of a population from generation to generation by such processes as mutation, natural selection, and genetic drift.
4. a process of gradual, peaceful, progressive change or development, as in social or economic structure or institutions.
5. a motion incomplete in itself, but combining with coordinated motions to produce a single action, as in a machine.
6. a pattern formed by or as if by a series of movements:
7. an evolving or giving off of gas, heat, etc.
8. the extraction of a root from a quantity.
9. a movement or one of a series of movements of troops, ships, etc., as for disposition in order of battle or in line on parade.
10. any similar movement, especially in close order drill.

All the things listed in the definition of evolution really exist and happen

You can call it evolution if you want, or if you want, you can call it by any of the words in any of the other languages that exist... what they call evoluton.

You can even make up your own word for evolution... like the biologist people want to use the word "natural selection."

It's simply that the people in the English language generally use the word "evolution."

Since all the things in the definition exist, at least as far as simple people who are not deep-thinking scientists are concerned, they have decided to use the word "evolution" to describe them. So, evolution exists.

R'amen.

[BADecker]

Of course, we all know you are into propaganda rather than science. All the scientists who extrapolate into the past, state that they don't know if they missed something. They all state that it only looks like. That isn't proof. That is exactly the opposite of proof.

Regarding the eye witnesses, none of them paint an exact picture with all the details. Many of them explain what they saw with descriptions of what it looked like to them. But the genealogies and dating times are accurate.

No reason to trust ''eye witnesses'' Do you know someone that knew someone that knew someone, etc etc until God?

That's why the things the eye witnesses saw were immediately written down, and the writings were meticulously copied perfectly. Moses and the people saw and heard God on Mt. Sinai. Shortly after this, Moses wrote the whole thing down so that there would be a record. And the two stone tablets with the 10 Commandments written on them... the ones that wound up in the Ark of the Covenant... were written in stone by the finger of God.

Not so with the stuff that says that the universe is billions of years old. All of that is guesswork, and the scientists who made the guesses essentially say so in their writings about the subject.

[Astargath]

Of course, we all know you are into propaganda rather than science. All the scientists who extrapolate into the past, state that they don't know if they missed something. They all state that it only looks like. That isn't proof. That is exactly the opposite of proof.

Regarding the eye witnesses, none of them paint an exact picture with all the details. Many of them explain what they saw with descriptions of what it looked like to them. But the genealogies and dating times are accurate.

No reason to trust ''eye witnesses'' Do you know someone that knew someone that knew someone, etc etc until God?

That's why the things the eye witnesses saw were immediately written down, and the writings were meticulously copied perfectly. Moses and the people saw and heard God on Mt. Sinai. Shortly after this, Moses wrote the whole thing down so that there would be a record. And the two stone tablets with the 10 Commandments written on them... the ones that wound up in the Ark of the Covenant... were written in stone by the finger of God.

Not so with the stuff that says that the universe is billions of years old. All of that is guesswork, and the scientists who made the guesses essentially say so in their writings about the subject.

''
That's why the things the eye witnesses saw were immediately written down'' How do you know LOL. How do you know what it's written down it's what happened?

[BADecker]

Of course, we all know you are into propaganda rather than science. All the scientists who extrapolate into the past, state that they don't know if they missed something. They all state that it only looks like. That isn't proof. That is exactly the opposite of proof.

Regarding the eye witnesses, none of them paint an exact picture with all the details. Many of them explain what they saw with descriptions of what it looked like to them. But the genealogies and dating times are accurate.

No reason to trust ''eye witnesses'' Do you know someone that knew someone that knew someone, etc etc until God?

That's why the things the eye witnesses saw were immediately written down, and the writings were meticulously copied perfectly. Moses and the people saw and heard God on Mt. Sinai. Shortly after this, Moses wrote the whole thing down so that there would be a record. And the two stone tablets with the 10 Commandments written on them... the ones that wound up in the Ark of the Covenant... were written in stone by the finger of God.

Not so with the stuff that says that the universe is billions of years old. All of that is guesswork, and the scientists who made the guesses essentially say so in their writings about the subject.

''
That's why the things the eye witnesses saw were immediately written down'' How do you know LOL. How do you know what it's written down it's what happened?

Israel. It exists. The people stubbornly hang onto the Old Testament. They stubbornly exist after being gone as a nation for almost 1900 years. They are an extremely stubborn people. The 2000-y-o Dead Sea Scrolls show how stubborn Israel is, by the accuracy when comparing the Bible Scrolls to the O.T. of today.

Or are you trying to say that Israel and the Dead Sea Scrolls don't exist?

[Astargath]

Of course, we all know you are into propaganda rather than science. All the scientists who extrapolate into the past, state that they don't know if they missed something. They all state that it only looks like. That isn't proof. That is exactly the opposite of proof.

Regarding the eye witnesses, none of them paint an exact picture with all the details. Many of them explain what they saw with descriptions of what it looked like to them. But the genealogies and dating times are accurate.

No reason to trust ''eye witnesses'' Do you know someone that knew someone that knew someone, etc etc until God?

That's why the things the eye witnesses saw were immediately written down, and the writings were meticulously copied perfectly. Moses and the people saw and heard God on Mt. Sinai. Shortly after this, Moses wrote the whole thing down so that there would be a record. And the two stone tablets with the 10 Commandments written on them... the ones that wound up in the Ark of the Covenant... were written in stone by the finger of God.

Not so with the stuff that says that the universe is billions of years old. All of that is guesswork, and the scientists who made the guesses essentially say so in their writings about the subject.

''
That's why the things the eye witnesses saw were immediately written down'' How do you know LOL. How do you know what it's written down it's what happened?

Israel. It exists. The people stubbornly hang onto the Old Testament. They stubbornly exist after being gone as a nation for almost 1900 years. They are an extremely stubborn people. The 2000-y-o Dead Sea Scrolls show how stubborn Israel is, by the accuracy when comparing the Bible Scrolls to the O.T. of today.

Or are you trying to say that Israel and the Dead Sea Scrolls don't exist?

Yea they exist, so do Muslims, Hindus, etc etc. They all claim the same things for their gods but how do you know? What method are you using to verify their claims? Are all books then true? Science proves the earth is older than 10.000 years with many different methods.

[BADecker]

Of course, we all know you are into propaganda rather than science. All the scientists who extrapolate into the past, state that they don't know if they missed something. They all state that it only looks like. That isn't proof. That is exactly the opposite of proof.

Regarding the eye witnesses, none of them paint an exact picture with all the details. Many of them explain what they saw with descriptions of what it looked like to them. But the genealogies and dating times are accurate.

No reason to trust ''eye witnesses'' Do you know someone that knew someone that knew someone, etc etc until God?

That's why the things the eye witnesses saw were immediately written down, and the writings were meticulously copied perfectly. Moses and the people saw and heard God on Mt. Sinai. Shortly after this, Moses wrote the whole thing down so that there would be a record. And the two stone tablets with the 10 Commandments written on them... the ones that wound up in the Ark of the Covenant... were written in stone by the finger of God.

Not so with the stuff that says that the universe is billions of years old. All of that is guesswork, and the scientists who made the guesses essentially say so in their writings about the subject.

''
That's why the things the eye witnesses saw were immediately written down'' How do you know LOL. How do you know what it's written down it's what happened?

Israel. It exists. The people stubbornly hang onto the Old Testament. They stubbornly exist after being gone as a nation for almost 1900 years. They are an extremely stubborn people. The 2000-y-o Dead Sea Scrolls show how stubborn Israel is, by the accuracy when comparing the Bible Scrolls to the O.T. of today.

Or are you trying to say that Israel and the Dead Sea Scrolls don't exist?

Yea they exist, so do Muslims, Hindus, etc etc. They all claim the same things for their gods but how do you know? What method are you using to verify their claims? Are all books then true? Science proves the earth is older than 10.000 years with many different methods.

Scientists don't know what went on 10,000 years ago, or even that 10,000 years ago existed. The best evidence they have for 10,000 years ago is backward extrapolation of things that go on today. But they don't know that things worked like they do today, beyond about 5,000 years ago. And even 5,000 years ago is partly guesstimation.

Dead Sea Scrolls evidence that the Bible is the same today as it was back then. There are billions of copies of the Bible, but only a few copies of other religious writings in comparison. There is strength in the Bible, as there is strength in the People of Israel, and strength in God.