Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. -ASIC mining hardware

[steamboat]

I would like to ask, what is the difference between Fully Assembled and Assembled? I believe that Assembly will not include the mounting of the chips, but I might be wrong. Please correct me if I am.

Assembly: Includes ASICs, PCB based on the Klondike design, and necessary PCB components.

Full kit: Includes fully assembled ASIC board and a DIY kit including heat sink, standoffs, fan, screws, thermal paste, and USB cable.

Fully assembled unit: Includes ASIC board and DIY kit fully assembled to miner.


I hope this answers your question.

Steamboat

Ah yes I think I understand it now. I guess I didnt read it clearly enough. 

so the heatsink is not mounted?

Full kit: Includes fully assembled ASIC board and a DIY kit including heat sink, standoffs, fan, screws, thermal paste, and USB cable.

Fully assembled unit: Includes ASIC board and DIY kit fully assembled to miner.


I hope this answers your question.

Steamboat

[ionstorm]

Hey steamboat, I would like clarifications on how many chips per fully assembled unit.  Can 64 chips be put in one unit or 4 units?  How many boards per fully assembled unit?

[fasmax]

I replied to your email for assembly but I also want the DIY kit that includes the heat sink.
Thanks!

[steamboat]

Hey steamboat, I would like clarifications on how many chips per fully assembled unit.  Can 64 chips be put in one unit or 4 units?  How many boards per fully assembled unit?

The OP has been modified for clarity.

Each unit contains one Klondike K16 board, with a 16 chip capacity. Cases utilizing more than one unit are in the design and testing stages, and will be available when finalized.

[fasmax]

Does it ("Assembly: Includes ASICs, PCB based on the Klondike design, and necessary PCB components.") come with the PIC chip programed ?

[LaserHorse]

Does the ("Assembly: Includes ASICs, PCB based on the Klondike design, and necessary PCB components.") come with the PIC chip programed ?

I would assume programmed PIC would fall under "necessary PCB components"

[morris14ccm]

Looking to order 16 chips, do I need to sign a message with the BTC payment or do I sign a message later? Or for the original purchase do I only need to send the BTC?

[Beastlymac]

So it is 2.45BTC for one Klondike 16 chip with everything needed not including shipping?

[ik2013]

Steamboat, the new OP looks great! Hopefully people will actually read it 

[FCTaiChi]

Proudmary keep on burnin.

[steamboat]

Does it ("Assembly: Includes ASICs, PCB based on the Klondike design, and necessary PCB components.") come with the PIC chip programed ?

Yes, the PIC chip will be programmed.

Looking to order 16 chips, do I need to sign a message with the BTC payment or do I sign a message later? Or for the original purchase do I only need to send the BTC?

as per the purchasing FAQ:

How do I sign a message?
In order to sign a verification message, you must use a wallet that supports this feature.
To sign a message with bitcoin-qt: click File, Sign Message. Input your sending address and message, and then click sign. The sending address, message, and signature must be included to verify the message.

Please sign the message using the following format:

Sending address
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I, (insert name here), bitcointalk.org forum member (insert forum member name here), am purchasing (insert chip amount here) Avalon ASIC chips for (insert BTC price here) from bitcointalk.org forum member Steamboat
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Signature


The above has been added to the FAQ, thank you.

So it is 2.45BTC for one Klondike 16 chip with everything needed not including shipping?

The price for one Fully assembled Klondike 16 with everything minus the power supply included is $133.50, to be paid in BTC. This does not include shipping.

[zhuravno]

Order placed.

Chip amount: 34
Payment amount: 2.924
TX ID: a2828b8b8d725bb6e4594d444ef7af6356d0be502eec7e83835764340fafed02

Thanks a lot in advance!


(edited the comma to dot in the payment amount it was not that expensive)

[markm]

This seems a little confusing:

Does it ("Assembly: Includes ASICs, PCB based on the Klondike design, and necessary PCB components.") come with the PIC chip programed ?

Yes, the PIC chip will be programmed.

in the context of the OP saying

Fully assembled unit: Includes assembly of one Klondike K16 ASIC board and all DIY kit parts fully assembled.

Testing: Includes one fully assembled Klondike K16, firmware pre-installation, and stability testing.

Basically it makes me wonder what the firmware is that the Testing option will pre-install? Is there some firmware involved in these boards other than the programming of the PIC? Do we need some kind of firmware-programming kit or something to put firmware into something ourselves if you don't pre-install it? I just don't understand exactly what is involved, not even whether I would be able to make use of boards that do not have "firmware pre-installation" done on them by someone else (maybe someone who has special cables and such used to program bitstreams or something)?

-MarkM-

[KS]

Is the KW/h cost for hosting known already?

[Beastlymac]

So it is 2.45BTC for one Klondike 16 chip with everything needed not including shipping?

The price for one Fully assembled Klondike 16 with everything minus the power supply included is $133.50, to be paid in BTC. This does not include shipping.

Ok thanks, I added the price of chips. This looks a lot more affordable now. Is it possible to get a table with estimated shipping prices for completed boards? Thanks.

[Beastlymac]

This seems a little confusing:

Does it ("Assembly: Includes ASICs, PCB based on the Klondike design, and necessary PCB components.") come with the PIC chip programed ?

Yes, the PIC chip will be programmed.

in the context of the OP saying

Fully assembled unit: Includes assembly of one Klondike K16 ASIC board and all DIY kit parts fully assembled.

Testing: Includes one fully assembled Klondike K16, firmware pre-installation, and stability testing.

Basically it makes me wonder what the firmware is that the Testing option will pre-install? Is there some firmware involved in these boards other than the programming of the PIC? Do we need some kind of firmware-programming kit or something to put firmware into something ourselves if you don't pre-install it? I just don't understand exactly what is involved, not even whether I would be able to make use of boards that do not have "firmware pre-installation" done on them by someone else (maybe someone who has special cables and such used to program bitstreams or something)?

-MarkM-

The firmware that will be installed is the firmware that bkkcoins the developer of these open source boards is creating.

More information can be found here http://github.com/bkkcoins/klondike .

[markm]

The firmware that will be installed is the firmware that bkkcoins the developer of these open source boards is creating.

More information can be found here http://github.com/bkkcoins/klondike .

So is that something my computer can/will send to the board(s) across the USB?

Or something I would need special cabling/kit in order to install it myself?

-MarkM-

[Beastlymac]

The firmware that will be installed is the firmware that bkkcoins the developer of these open source boards is creating.

More information can be found here http://github.com/bkkcoins/klondike .

So is that something my computer can/will send to the board(s) across the USB?

Or something I would need special cabling/kit in order to install it myself?

-MarkM-

Depending on what type of kit you buy it will come flashed onto the board. You just need to plug the USB and boot up cgminer etc.

[Amph]

is this us only, or international?

[markm]

The firmware that will be installed is the firmware that bkkcoins the developer of these open source boards is creating.

More information can be found here http://github.com/bkkcoins/klondike .

So is that something my computer can/will send to the board(s) across the USB?

Or something I would need special cabling/kit in order to install it myself?

-MarkM-

Depending on what type of kit you buy it will come flashed onto the board. You just need to plug the USB and boot up cgminer etc.

Yes that is why I was asking: the only "kit" that says it actually includes the firmware is the "testing" option, which isn't really a "kit" at all its a fully assembled, firmware loaded, tested unit. If loading the firmware is not something normal people can do with normal computer and USB or whatever, then really there doesnt' seem to be much option, failing there being some local firmware-loading shop or something I could take it in to that hasd the special gear for loading firmware I'd pretty much have to go with the tersted unit option.

On the other hand, I recall in the past having some ancient wireless networking card that Linux needed something they referred to as "firmware" to make it work, and all I had to do was download the so called firmware and run some firmware-installer command and presto it worked.

So it makes a lot of difference to me whether this so called firmware is akin to what I did to the wireless card or more along the lines of those FPGA re-programming tasks I see people being told to go get Jsomething cables and special kits and such to accomplish.

-MarkM-