Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. -ASIC mining hardware

[Lollaskates]

I'll repost this here from the klondike thread, in-case some of you can benefit from it:

For those of you looking to control a bunch of Klondikes, I went ahead and picked one of these up for testing (specifically to see if it would power the Rpi) and its worked beautifully. (8-port USB2.0 Hub - Molex powered) https://www.bitmit.net/en/item/40935-8-port-usb-2-0-panel-hub-with-molex-power-connector?ref=1836

I plan on running 6 chains of 4x klondikes, one port to power the rpi, and one port for the rpi. Being able to power the hub off the PSU just keeps it all in one package.

[1714712851]

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[ScaryHash]

According to the batch order, 3000 sets of components will be pretty much good until batch 4 or 5. I am sure Steamboat has demonstrated to everybody here that he can plan quite well, MUCH better than Avalon. So, it is quite unlikely that Batch 5 or 6 will be here before Steamboat has new components on hand to make more miners.

Avalon is running 2-3 weeks behind schedule. I doubt anybody is surprised by that. Steamboat is running 10-12 weeks AHEAD of schedule with parts ordering. I'm sure that's NOT cheap, by the way. Let's give some credit where credit is due.


Batch 1: Order #10177, Purchase date May 1,2013. Expected delivery date early July
Batch 2: Order #10265, Purchase date May 11,2013. Expected delivery date mid July
Batch 3: Order #10325, Purchase date May 22,2013. Expected delivery date mid/late July.
Batch 4: Order #10425, Purchase date May 28,2013. Expected delivery date late July, early August.
Batch 5: Order #10553, Purchase date June 5. Expected delivery date early/mid August.
Batch 6: Order #11253, Purchase date July 6. Expected delivery date mid September.

[lexis200]

Hi all,

I know this is a long shot but if anyone out there with chip purchases in batches 1-5 has decided for any reason that they want to sell them, I'd be happy to purchase them from you. I'm looking for an additional 560 chips (I've already got 260 chips I've bought myself). I'm happy to go through escrow if that's what you want.

PLEASE DON'T REPLY TO THIS ON THE FORUM... SEND ME A PM and we'll work the details out. I don't want to clutter the board up, and I know this is a bit cheeky so I'm only going to ask this once

And before anyone says anything, Yes, I've already contacted steamboat about this...

Cheers
Lexis200

[Stringchains]

I'll repost this here from the klondike thread, in-case some of you can benefit from it:

For those of you looking to control a bunch of Klondikes, I went ahead and picked one of these up for testing (specifically to see if it would power the Rpi) and its worked beautifully. (8-port USB2.0 Hub - Molex powered) https://www.bitmit.net/en/item/40935-8-port-usb-2-0-panel-hub-with-molex-power-connector?ref=1836

I plan on running 6 chains of 4x klondikes, one port to power the rpi, and one port for the rpi. Being able to power the hub off the PSU just keeps it all in one package.

I am very interested in how this works and the convenience of it. Ill be using 16x klondikes myself and feel it would be very necessary that I should go ahead and get these as well.
I must admit I don't know what Rpi is; googled it and still don't understand the rockwell protocol interface clearly.
How exactly does it work if you don't mind explaining the way you will be doing it in more detail? (i.e. are you saying you will have 6 of these 8-port USB hubs and plug 4x klondikes into each one of these 8-port USB hubs? meaning you have a total of 24 klondikes? I may be way off by further asking why not have all ports used for each 8-port USB hub you have instead of 4of8 occupied for each hub?) Keep in mind I obviously may have no idea what I'm asking, I'm just very curious that you have brought it up and I feel I should need to get these as well. 

Thanks!
String

[cp1]

Rpi is a raspberry pi -- it's a tiny computer that uses only 5 watts to run.

I'll repost this here from the klondike thread, in-case some of you can benefit from it:

For those of you looking to control a bunch of Klondikes, I went ahead and picked one of these up for testing (specifically to see if it would power the Rpi) and its worked beautifully. (8-port USB2.0 Hub - Molex powered) https://www.bitmit.net/en/item/40935-8-port-usb-2-0-panel-hub-with-molex-power-connector?ref=1836

I plan on running 6 chains of 4x klondikes, one port to power the rpi, and one port for the rpi. Being able to power the hub off the PSU just keeps it all in one package.

I am very interested in how this works and the convenience of it. Ill be using 16x klondikes myself and feel it would be very necessary that I should go ahead and get these as well.
I must admit I don't know what Rpi is; googled it and still don't understand the rockwell protocol interface clearly.
How exactly does it work if you don't mind explaining the way you will be doing it in more detail? (i.e. are you saying you will have 6 of these 8-port USB hubs and plug 4x klondikes into each one of these 8-port USB hubs? meaning you have a total of 24 klondikes? I may be way off by further asking why not have all ports used for each 8-port USB hub you have instead of 4of8 occupied for each hub?) Keep in mind I obviously may have no idea what I'm asking, I'm just very curious that you have brought it up and I feel I should need to get these as well. 

Thanks!
String

[trigeek]

I am very interested in how this works and the convenience of it. Ill be using 16x klondikes myself and feel it would be very necessary that I should go ahead and get these as well.
I must admit I don't know what Rpi is; googled it and still don't understand the rockwell protocol interface clearly.

"rpi" is shorthand for "raspberry pi".  It's a very tiny linux system that can be had for under $50.  They are very handy for hosting mining hardware because they use very little power and space, and they are very cheap.

How exactly does it work if you don't mind explaining the way you will be doing it in more detail? (i.e. are you saying you will have 6 of these 8-port USB hubs and plug 4x klondikes into each one of these 8-port USB hubs? meaning you have a total of 24 klondikes? I may be way off by further asking why not have all ports used for each 8-port USB hub you have instead of 4of8 occupied for each hub?) Keep in mind I obviously may have no idea what I'm asking, I'm just very curious that you have brought it up and I feel I should need to get these as well. 

The K16's can be chained together.  No one knows what the true practical limit is yet on the length of that chain, but based on what the developer has said the theoretical limit is quite high.  You should be able to chain *at least* four of them together.  This would mean that with a single 8 port hub, you could host 32 of them in that configuration.

[Lollaskates]

I am very interested in how this works and the convenience of it. Ill be using 16x klondikes myself and feel it would be very necessary that I should go ahead and get these as well.
I must admit I don't know what Rpi is; googled it and still don't understand the rockwell protocol interface clearly.

"rpi" is shorthand for "raspberry pi".  It's a very tiny linux system that can be had for under $50.  They are very handy for hosting mining hardware because they use very little power and space, and they are very cheap.

How exactly does it work if you don't mind explaining the way you will be doing it in more detail? (i.e. are you saying you will have 6 of these 8-port USB hubs and plug 4x klondikes into each one of these 8-port USB hubs? meaning you have a total of 24 klondikes? I may be way off by further asking why not have all ports used for each 8-port USB hub you have instead of 4of8 occupied for each hub?) Keep in mind I obviously may have no idea what I'm asking, I'm just very curious that you have brought it up and I feel I should need to get these as well.  

The K16's can be chained together.  No one knows what the true practical limit is yet on the length of that chain, but based on what the developer has said the theoretical limit is quite high.  You should be able to chain *at least* four of them together.  This would mean that with a single 8 port hub, you could host 32 of them in that configuration.

There are 8 ports, all of which seem to be able to provide the amperage needed to power the rpi. It also uses a motherboard header on the rear to connect to the host machine, so you will need two (to use all 8 ports) of these: (EU) http://www.amazon.co.uk/v2-0-Male-Motherboard-Header-Connector/dp/B000QC7NKM/ref=pd_sim_sbs_ce_3 (US) http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000V6WD8A/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I'm going to have 4 chains of 4 klondikes, so 4 ports total for the klondikes. the rear usb pin headers will connect via the adapters to the raspberry pi's usb port, and finally it will itself draw power from the hub via one of the ports, totaling 5 ports of the 8 available. I planned on keeping the other 3 ports available for general use...thumbdrives, wifi adapters, etc.

[Stringchains]

Wow,
I just devoured all of this.

Thank you for the gold,
cp1, trigeek and Lollaskates

- String

[trigeek]

There are 8 ports, all of which seem to be able to provide the amperage needed to power the rpi. It also uses a motherboard header on the rear to connect to the host machine, so you will need one of these: (EU) http://www.amazon.co.uk/v2-0-Male-Motherboard-Header-Connector/dp/B000QC7NKM/ref=pd_sim_sbs_ce_3 (US) http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000V6WD8A/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I'm going to have 4 chains of 4 klondikes, so 4 ports total for the klondikes. the rear usb pin header will connect via the adapter to the raspberry pi's usb port, and finally it will itself draw power from the hub via one of the ports, totaling 5 ports of the 8 available. I planned on keeping the other 3 ports available for general use...thumbdrives, wifi adapters, etc.

Ahh, if only this hub wasn't $75!!

http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Mountable-Rugged-Industrial-ST7200USBM/dp/B003AVPUZG


No adapters required anywhere, and you'd just have to use a MOLEX extension with the connector cut off to power it.

[slightboyme]

steamboat:

Have you considered listing on bitfunder for those who purchased hosted solution? It will be easier for you to manage payment and also much more flexible for the buyer to transfer ownership.

A good example: https://bitfunder.com/asset/SNQ.CoinI

Please consider! Thanks

[ik2013]

Just poking my head in to say my whole-system Power delivery board is complete:

Meet the ATX-Pi
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=263567.msg2815917#msg2815917

[steamboat]

Mini update:

We have a new addition to the DIY kit. Anyone who purchases more than one unit will also receive this.

[ik2013]

Mini update:

We have a new addition to the DIY kit. Anyone who purchases more than one unit will also receive this.

Nice I was hoping something like this would be included! Keep on rockin 

[cp1]

Steamboat, your sig links to post 20 in the thread instead of 0.

[trigeek]

Mini update:

We have a new addition to the DIY kit. Anyone who purchases more than one unit will also receive this.

https://i.imgur.com/eiy3C4R.jpg

This is just awesome.  I was expecting some pretty generic looking parts, but everything about these kits is going to look badass.

[jimrome]

Case work update:
- Power distribution and control PCB expected to be completed by early next week. Will support both Raspberry Pi or Beaglebone Black.
- Mechanical design is essentially complete, just need to complete part drawings and fire off to Steamboat

Still no price estimate, as this will depend on the quantity of parts ordered.

Changes since last design:
- 15 K16s per enclosure necessitated by a space added for an ATX PSU
- Ethernet connector added which will allow direct connection to the Raspberry Pi or Beaglebone Black for standalone operation
- Power distribution and control PCB will have both Molex and terminal strip connections for power

Case design could easily be adapted to support other PCBs (i.e. Bitburners)

Pics:

[PeZ]

steamboat:

Have you considered listing on bitfunder for those who purchased hosted solution? It will be easier for you to manage payment and also much more flexible for the buyer to transfer ownership.

A good example: https://bitfunder.com/asset/SNQ.CoinI

Please consider! Thanks

I would strongly recommend against it. If you need to transfer funds to or from Bitfunder you are currently forced to use WeExchange. I am currently having problems accessing my WeExchange account. They don't answer emails or respond to forum PMs. No support at all.

[Foaz]

Case work update:
- Power distribution and control PCB expected to be completed by early next week. Will support both Raspberry Pi or Beaglebone Black.
- Mechanical design is essentially complete, just need to complete part drawings and fire off to Steamboat

Still no price estimate, as this will depend on the quantity of parts ordered.

Changes since last design:
- 15 K16s per enclosure necessitated by a space added for an ATX PSU
- Ethernet connector added which will allow direct connection to the Raspberry Pi or Beaglebone Black for standalone operation
- Power distribution and control PCB will have both Molex and terminal strip connections for power

Case design could easily be adapted to support other PCBs (i.e. Bitburners)

Pics:
Imgs

Can you give us a rough price range so we'll know what we're looking at? Looks really good man!

[Lollaskates]

Sigh, here's to hoping Avalon doesn't screw us with our chip orders. The ROI of these unit is lowering at an alarming rate. Batch#4's 9-10wks is up in mid August and Batch#1's late by a few weeks already. As it stands with difficulty rising as it is, 1 week of lost mining in August is the equivalent of mining lost for the entire month of November. Ouch.

[Stringchains]

Sigh, here's to hoping Avalon doesn't screw us with our chip orders. The ROI of these unit is lowering at an alarming rate. Batch#4's 9-10wks is up in mid August and Batch#1's late by a few weeks already. As it stands with difficulty rising as it is, 1 week of lost mining in August is the equivalent of mining lost for the entire month of November. Ouch.

I feel ya. I calculated profit (after including what I spent on chips+assembly for 16 boards of which is ~$5,000 ive spent), and profit was to be around $3800 total, now as days pass my projected profit is just dying. At this point I'm just hoping I can break even and make my $5,000 back. I would be fine with making less than breaking even as well (like $4,000) because I would be okay with knowing that I spent ~$1,000 to jump into this mining venture world and look at it as an experience, cause hell ive spent $1000+ on vacations that I honestly think i would regret more than this kind of excitement (plus I get to keep the boards! AND there are other sha-256 coins to be mined that are young with low difficulties as well).