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Author Topic: [ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented  (Read 65953 times)
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April 05, 2018, 04:13:03 AM
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What is a chip?
Think of them like virtual casino "chips"... they're just a representation of value. ChipMixer represents your balance as a collection of "chips", instead of having your balance as a single value.

Example: You deposit 1.452 BTC

ChipMixer breaks this into:
1x 1.024 BTC chip
1x 0.256 BTC chip
1x 0.128 BTC chip
1x 0.032 BTC chip
1x 0.008 BTC chip
1x 0.004 BTC chip

You still have 1.452 BTC total, it's just split across a bunch of different chips. if you were to withdraw, you get 6x private keys that have been pre-funded with those amounts.


A horrible mixer! Intuitive interface is not understandable. Especially for the beginner. Absolutely not understandable functions of Split, Mergue, Beats, Donate.
Did you read the FAQ? It explains ALL of these functions: https://chipmixer.com/faq


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Translated 0.01 bts clicked on a button and the balance was displayed as 0.004 bts! Where did the money go?
That depends on what button you clicked... which button did you click?


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The remaining money ordered a withdrawal but nothing came. More I will never use!
Withdrawing doesn't send coins anywhere... it simply gives you access to a "private key" that you can sweep (or import) to the wallet of your choice.

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April 05, 2018, 10:25:35 PM
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Is ChipMixer.io a domain controlled by you? I saw it mentioned, and was going to correct them as I assumed it was a phishing link. However, at the moment, it just redirects to ChipMixer.com. I don't believe you've ever mentioned it, so I'm thinking it could be a long-con by a malicious actor who wants to build trust on that URL, and switch to phishing when it gets enough traffic?

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April 06, 2018, 02:35:18 PM
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Is ChipMixer.io a domain controlled by you? I saw it mentioned, and was going to correct them as I assumed it was a phishing link. However, at the moment, it just redirects to ChipMixer.com. I don't believe you've ever mentioned it, so I'm thinking it could be a long-con by a malicious actor who wants to build trust on that URL, and switch to phishing when it gets enough traffic?

The only reference I could find by @ChipMixer is stating chipmixer.io is not their main domain. But there is nothing stating that the .io version does not belong to them, so I am assuming that ChipMixer.io is, in fact, owned and controlled by @ChipMixer

It would appear that chipmixer.io is currently offline/down...
ChipMixer.com is our main domain.
We were under DDoS attack. Tor service was not affected.

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April 06, 2018, 02:39:08 PM
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I couldn't find anything from Whois.net regarding the .io domain name while everything is available for the .com version. I doubt It's controlled by the same person.

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April 06, 2018, 02:47:21 PM
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Is ChipMixer.io a domain controlled by you? I saw it mentioned, and was going to correct them as I assumed it was a phishing link. However, at the moment, it just redirects to ChipMixer.com. I don't believe you've ever mentioned it, so I'm thinking it could be a long-con by a malicious actor who wants to build trust on that URL, and switch to phishing when it gets enough traffic?

The only reference I could find by @ChipMixer is stating chipmixer.io is not their main domain. But there is nothing stating that the .io version does not belong to them, so I am assuming that ChipMixer.io is, in fact, owned and controlled by @ChipMixer

It would appear that chipmixer.io is currently offline/down...
ChipMixer.com is our main domain.
We were under DDoS attack. Tor service was not affected.
I couldn't find anything from Whois.net regarding the .io domain name while everything is available for the .com version. I doubt It's controlled by the same person.

They probably do own chipmixer.io but, if they do, it's probably just to stop anyone from doing a phishinng attempt with the domain name.
I think .IO needs less information than .COM does when it's registered.

This being said, I wouldn't advise using anything other than the official chipmixer.com and the official .onion domain names as using anything else would just be foolish. They may have the .io name in case they need to move from .com if they get DDoS attacks on the main site.

(chipmixer.net and chipmixer.org appear to be owned but parked also - not sure who owns those).

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April 06, 2018, 02:59:23 PM
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Is ChipMixer.io a domain controlled by you? I saw it mentioned, and was going to correct them as I assumed it was a phishing link. However, at the moment, it just redirects to ChipMixer.com. I don't believe you've ever mentioned it, so I'm thinking it could be a long-con by a malicious actor who wants to build trust on that URL, and switch to phishing when it gets enough traffic?

The only reference I could find by @ChipMixer is stating chipmixer.io is not their main domain. But there is nothing stating that the .io version does not belong to them, so I am assuming that ChipMixer.io is, in fact, owned and controlled by @ChipMixer

It would appear that chipmixer.io is currently offline/down...
ChipMixer.com is our main domain.
We were under DDoS attack. Tor service was not affected.
I couldn't find anything from Whois.net regarding the .io domain name while everything is available for the .com version. I doubt It's controlled by the same person.

They probably do own chipmixer.io but, if they do, it's probably just to stop anyone from doing a phishinng attempt with the domain name.
I think .IO needs less information than .COM does when it's registered.

This being said, I wouldn't advise using anything other than the official chipmixer.com and the official .onion domain names as using anything else would just be foolish. They may have the .io name in case they need to move from .com if they get DDoS attacks on the main site.

(chipmixer.net and chipmixer.org appear to be owned but parked also - not sure who owns those).

Questions as serious as domain names should not be left to speculations. It should be so factual and direct for people to know for the sake of posterity. If what is happening is exactly what @darkstar_ is calling an attention to, then this is the time to either debunk or confirm it. If any one fall victim of it, then the blame would to chipmixer as to why they didn't come out with a statement which would suggest some level of connivance which would be more difficult to control then and reputation in this crypto world is a fragile thing that can be lost so easily. #my opinion.
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April 09, 2018, 08:52:08 AM
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Questions as serious as domain names should not be left to speculations. It should be so factual and direct for people to know for the sake of posterity. If what is happening is exactly what @darkstar_ is calling an attention to, then this is the time to either debunk or confirm it. If any one fall victim of it, then the blame would to chipmixer as to why they didn't come out with a statement which would suggest some level of connivance which would be more difficult to control then and reputation in this crypto world is a fragile thing that can be lost so easily. #my opinion.

Well, chipmixer has stated only two official links.
Clearnet link: ChipMixer.com
Tor link: ChipMixerwzxtzbw.onion

We can assume other domain names are fake, phishing site in order to scam people.
People have to be careful of such attempt, and we can help to spread the word.
Maybe:

Beware of copycats, make sure to visit the right link.
Clearnet link: ChipMixer.com
Tor link: ChipMixerwzxtzbw.onion
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April 10, 2018, 10:40:45 PM
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@ChipMixer, can you incorporate segwit into the service (not sure if this has been suggested yet)?
It is still too soon for that. Importing private key as segwit address is complicated.

Main clearnet domain is chipmixer.com. We have .io domain and it redirects to .com because we do not want our users to remember many different domains. Use .com if you need to use clearnet. Use .onion if you can.

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April 11, 2018, 12:40:10 AM
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@ChipMixer, can you incorporate segwit into the service (not sure if this has been suggested yet)?
It is still too soon for that. Importing private key as segwit address is complicated.

Main clearnet domain is chipmixer.com. We have .io domain and it redirects to .com because we do not want our users to remember many different domains. Use .com if you need to use clearnet. Use .onion if you can.

Thank you Chip Mixer for both clarifications here!

It would be nice to see segwit incorporated at some point also but maybe is a little too soon and would be difficult to offer people the choice (as some people still like to use legacy).

Thanks for the response!

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April 26, 2018, 01:32:51 PM
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So if i would like to withdraw funds from chipmixer it'll the best if:
1. Export the private key from chipmixer to wallet --> Disconnect the Transition from the Blockchain
There is no point to step 1.

If anything, all you are doing by "importing" your private key into a wallet, is increasing the chances that your funds might get stolen... due to exposing the private key (ie. having to type or copy/paste it into a potentially compromised computer) and leaving the funds sitting on that key for a period of time. Granted, given proper precautions are taken, the likelihood of that is relatively low, but still... it is an unnecessary step.

It doesn't really "disconnect the transition from the blockchain"... as there is no "transition". The funds remain on the same address (as controlled by the private key) as already recorded on the blockchain.

@HCP:

Sorry for the late comment on this post.

So, the the Trace wihich gives a fingerprint on the blockchain is produced by the private key ?

What about the instruction ( Step 3 on the first page)  to withdraw with an private kay not with an transaction ? is this useless ?


May someone has an article how the blockchain could be traced that i'm ablte to understand the mechanism behind it. .. sorry I'm not an crypto pro

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It seems that you don't understand the basics of the blockchain... It is, by design, a completely public ledger, that records "transfer of value" from one ore more public key(s) to one or more other public key(s).

To be able to transfer value from any given public key... you need to be able to sign a transaction. The only way to successfully generate a valid signature is with the private key that matches the public key. The asymmetric cryptographic properties of a signed transaction allow anyone to validate that the signature provided matches the public key, thus proving that the person has access to the private key and is therefore the "owner"... WITHOUT needing to know the private key.

As value is moved from one address to another, you can follow the chain of transactions... from AddressA -> AddressB -> AddressC etc etc... You can see that the value moved from A to C (via B)

People use mixers, so they can then do this:

AddressA -> AddressB -> MixingServiceAddressX
... chain broken ...
MixingServiceAddressY -> AddressC

The idea is to "break the chain" such that AddressA can no longer be linked through to AddressC... With no direct link between MixingServiceAddressX and MixingServiceAddressY, you can't (easily) link A to C...

All of the convoluted things you are attempting (or think that you need to do) are unnecessary if you put the coins into a service like ChipMixer... it takes care of breaking the chain so that addresses used PRIOR to the coins being sent to the mixing service are no longer directly linked to addresses used AFTER the coins are withdrawn from the mixing service.

In ChipMixer's case, the majority of the private keys are actually funded well BEFORE you even send coins to the mixing service... which makes it even harder to track the flow. As you coins are effectively time travelling Wink


NOTE: Mixing services are not 100% effective... Advanced analytics companies exist that can still determine movement through mixers to a certain degree. If you REALLY need full anonymity, better to use a privacy focused blockchain like Monero etc.

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May 03, 2018, 05:37:59 PM
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NOTE: Mixing services are not 100% effective... Advanced analytics companies exist that can still determine movement through mixers to a certain degree. If you REALLY need full anonymity, better to use a privacy focused blockchain like Monero etc.

As a point on this, chipmixer has an edge that means you can probably work out funds have come from them (as they use their transactions like an exchange do but with a bit more delocalisation). However, you can't really work out who's using them as chips are a fixed size so the private keys/transactions can blend into each other if the inputs/outputs are a similar size.

HCP gave a great simplified answer to your questions @moejoejay though.

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May 10, 2018, 03:07:50 PM
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Hi, I need some support please... I transferred to the given deposit address and I have already 12 confirmations on Blockchain, but the funds have not yet arrived on the mixer? "Waiting for confirmed transaction."
I contacted support but no reply so far, would really appreciate some assistance.
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May 10, 2018, 04:23:20 PM
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Hi, I need some support please... I transferred to the given deposit address and I have already 12 confirmations on Blockchain, but the funds have not yet arrived on the mixer? "Waiting for confirmed transaction."
I contacted support but no reply so far, would really appreciate some assistance.

Did you hit F5/refresh? Usually that what fixes that issue for me.

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May 10, 2018, 04:58:11 PM
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Hi, I need some support please... I transferred to the given deposit address and I have already 12 confirmations on Blockchain, but the funds have not yet arrived on the mixer? "Waiting for confirmed transaction."
I contacted support but no reply so far, would really appreciate some assistance.

Did you hit F5/refresh? Usually that what fixes that issue for me.

Same issue, transfered today at it still says Waiting for confirmed transaction. Please refresh page.
If you have javascript enabled, page will autorefresh every 30 seconds.

The transaction has already 6 confirms.
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May 10, 2018, 05:10:20 PM
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Hi, I need some support please... I transferred to the given deposit address and I have already 12 confirmations on Blockchain, but the funds have not yet arrived on the mixer? "Waiting for confirmed transaction."
I contacted support but no reply so far, would really appreciate some assistance.

Did you hit F5/refresh? Usually that what fixes that issue for me.

Same issue, transfered today at it still says Waiting for confirmed transaction. Please refresh page.
If you have javascript enabled, page will autorefresh every 30 seconds.

The transaction has already 6 confirms.

Ahhh. So OK, as a note. If anyone is running firefox, tor or noscript, javascript needs to be enabled OR you need to autorefresh it then.
@bitcoinmii has yours fixed or is it still on pending? Can you try changing browsers (both of you) and use the same token/url.

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May 10, 2018, 05:15:24 PM
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Hi, I need some support please... I transferred to the given deposit address and I have already 12 confirmations on Blockchain, but the funds have not yet arrived on the mixer? "Waiting for confirmed transaction."
I contacted support but no reply so far, would really appreciate some assistance.

Did you hit F5/refresh? Usually that what fixes that issue for me.

Hi, thanks for the reply. Yes I have refreshed the page and tried a different browser (Tor, Chrome). I have used chipmixer quite a few times and this is the first time I have experienced any issue. Any more suggestions? Currently on 29 confirmations
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May 10, 2018, 05:27:43 PM
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Hi, thanks for the reply. Yes I have refreshed the page and tried a different browser (Tor, Chrome). I have used chipmixer quite a few times and this is the first time I have experienced any issue. Any more suggestions? Currently on 29 confirmations

I'm sorry but you're going to have to wait for their support.
I don't think trying it on a different device will do too much (but you could always try it on a phone/another computer).

It looks as if it will most likely be a server-side issue. It's probably fully propagated on the network by now if it has that many confirmations (enough for chipmixer's servers to notice it if it is). Make sure you sent the support ticket with the token so they can fix your issue.

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Hi, I need some support please... I transferred to the given deposit address and I have already 12 confirmations on Blockchain, but the funds have not yet arrived on the mixer? "Waiting for confirmed transaction."
I contacted support but no reply so far, would really appreciate some assistance.

Did you hit F5/refresh? Usually that what fixes that issue for me.

Same issue, transfered today at it still says Waiting for confirmed transaction. Please refresh page.
If you have javascript enabled, page will autorefresh every 30 seconds.

The transaction has already 6 confirms.

Ahhh. So OK, as a note. If anyone is running firefox, tor or noscript, javascript needs to be enabled OR you need to autorefresh it then.
@bitcoinmii has yours fixed or is it still on pending? Can you try changing browsers (both of you) and use the same token/url.

Yes, had tried with chrome and IE. Looks really like a server-side problem.
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May 10, 2018, 05:47:08 PM
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Hi, thanks for the reply. Yes I have refreshed the page and tried a different browser (Tor, Chrome). I have used chipmixer quite a few times and this is the first time I have experienced any issue. Any more suggestions? Currently on 29 confirmations

I'm sorry but you're going to have to wait for their support.
I don't think trying it on a different device will do too much (but you could always try it on a phone/another computer).

It looks as if it will most likely be a server-side issue. It's probably fully propagated on the network by now if it has that many confirmations (enough for chipmixer's servers to notice it if it is). Make sure you sent the support ticket with the token so they can fix your issue.

Hi, OK, I have sent them an email at the proton email address with the TXID. I'll send them the Token now as well. Thanks again for the help and @bitcoinmii please post if you receive any reply from their support, I shall do the same.
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