[ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented

[DarkStar_]

Is ChipMixer.io a domain controlled by you? I saw it mentioned, and was going to correct them as I assumed it was a phishing link. However, at the moment, it just redirects to ChipMixer.com. I don't believe you've ever mentioned it, so I'm thinking it could be a long-con by a malicious actor who wants to build trust on that URL, and switch to phishing when it gets enough traffic?

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[BTCforJoe]

Is ChipMixer.io a domain controlled by you? I saw it mentioned, and was going to correct them as I assumed it was a phishing link. However, at the moment, it just redirects to ChipMixer.com. I don't believe you've ever mentioned it, so I'm thinking it could be a long-con by a malicious actor who wants to build trust on that URL, and switch to phishing when it gets enough traffic?

The only reference I could find by @ChipMixer is stating chipmixer.io is not their main domain. But there is nothing stating that the .io version does not belong to them, so I am assuming that ChipMixer.io is, in fact, owned and controlled by @ChipMixer

It would appear that chipmixer.io is currently offline/down...

ChipMixer.com is our main domain.
We were under DDoS attack. Tor service was not affected.

[OmegaStarScream]

I couldn't find anything from Whois.net regarding the .io domain name while everything is available for the .com version. I doubt It's controlled by the same person.

[jackg]

Is ChipMixer.io a domain controlled by you? I saw it mentioned, and was going to correct them as I assumed it was a phishing link. However, at the moment, it just redirects to ChipMixer.com. I don't believe you've ever mentioned it, so I'm thinking it could be a long-con by a malicious actor who wants to build trust on that URL, and switch to phishing when it gets enough traffic?

The only reference I could find by @ChipMixer is stating chipmixer.io is not their main domain. But there is nothing stating that the .io version does not belong to them, so I am assuming that ChipMixer.io is, in fact, owned and controlled by @ChipMixer

It would appear that chipmixer.io is currently offline/down...

ChipMixer.com is our main domain.
We were under DDoS attack. Tor service was not affected.

I couldn't find anything from Whois.net regarding the .io domain name while everything is available for the .com version. I doubt It's controlled by the same person.

They probably do own chipmixer.io but, if they do, it's probably just to stop anyone from doing a phishinng attempt with the domain name.
I think .IO needs less information than .COM does when it's registered.

This being said, I wouldn't advise using anything other than the official chipmixer.com and the official .onion domain names as using anything else would just be foolish. They may have the .io name in case they need to move from .com if they get DDoS attacks on the main site.

(chipmixer.net and chipmixer.org appear to be owned but parked also - not sure who owns those).

[audaciousbeing]

Is ChipMixer.io a domain controlled by you? I saw it mentioned, and was going to correct them as I assumed it was a phishing link. However, at the moment, it just redirects to ChipMixer.com. I don't believe you've ever mentioned it, so I'm thinking it could be a long-con by a malicious actor who wants to build trust on that URL, and switch to phishing when it gets enough traffic?

The only reference I could find by @ChipMixer is stating chipmixer.io is not their main domain. But there is nothing stating that the .io version does not belong to them, so I am assuming that ChipMixer.io is, in fact, owned and controlled by @ChipMixer

It would appear that chipmixer.io is currently offline/down...

ChipMixer.com is our main domain.
We were under DDoS attack. Tor service was not affected.

I couldn't find anything from Whois.net regarding the .io domain name while everything is available for the .com version. I doubt It's controlled by the same person.

They probably do own chipmixer.io but, if they do, it's probably just to stop anyone from doing a phishinng attempt with the domain name.
I think .IO needs less information than .COM does when it's registered.

This being said, I wouldn't advise using anything other than the official chipmixer.com and the official .onion domain names as using anything else would just be foolish. They may have the .io name in case they need to move from .com if they get DDoS attacks on the main site.

(chipmixer.net and chipmixer.org appear to be owned but parked also - not sure who owns those).

Questions as serious as domain names should not be left to speculations. It should be so factual and direct for people to know for the sake of posterity. If what is happening is exactly what @darkstar_ is calling an attention to, then this is the time to either debunk or confirm it. If any one fall victim of it, then the blame would to chipmixer as to why they didn't come out with a statement which would suggest some level of connivance which would be more difficult to control then and reputation in this crypto world is a fragile thing that can be lost so easily. #my opinion.

[Rahar02]

Questions as serious as domain names should not be left to speculations. It should be so factual and direct for people to know for the sake of posterity. If what is happening is exactly what @darkstar_ is calling an attention to, then this is the time to either debunk or confirm it. If any one fall victim of it, then the blame would to chipmixer as to why they didn't come out with a statement which would suggest some level of connivance which would be more difficult to control then and reputation in this crypto world is a fragile thing that can be lost so easily. #my opinion.

Well, chipmixer has stated only two official links.
Clearnet link: ChipMixer.com
Tor link: ChipMixerwzxtzbw.onion
We can assume other domain names are fake, phishing site in order to scam people.
People have to be careful of such attempt, and we can help to spread the word.
Maybe:
Beware of copycats, make sure to visit the right link.
Clearnet link: ChipMixer.com
Tor link: ChipMixerwzxtzbw.onion

[ChipMixer]

@ChipMixer, can you incorporate segwit into the service (not sure if this has been suggested yet)?

It is still too soon for that. Importing private key as segwit address is complicated.

Main clearnet domain is chipmixer.com. We have .io domain and it redirects to .com because we do not want our users to remember many different domains. Use .com if you need to use clearnet. Use .onion if you can.

[jackg]

@ChipMixer, can you incorporate segwit into the service (not sure if this has been suggested yet)?

It is still too soon for that. Importing private key as segwit address is complicated.

Main clearnet domain is chipmixer.com. We have .io domain and it redirects to .com because we do not want our users to remember many different domains. Use .com if you need to use clearnet. Use .onion if you can.

Thank you Chip Mixer for both clarifications here!

It would be nice to see segwit incorporated at some point also but maybe is a little too soon and would be difficult to offer people the choice (as some people still like to use legacy).

Thanks for the response!

[moejoejay]

Quote from: moejoejay on March 27, 2018, 01:40:21 PM

So if i would like to withdraw funds from chipmixer it'll the best if:
1. Export the private key from chipmixer to wallet --> Disconnect the Transition from the Blockchain
There is no point to step 1.

If anything, all you are doing by "importing" your private key into a wallet, is increasing the chances that your funds might get stolen... due to exposing the private key (ie. having to type or copy/paste it into a potentially compromised computer) and leaving the funds sitting on that key for a period of time. Granted, given proper precautions are taken, the likelihood of that is relatively low, but still... it is an unnecessary step.

It doesn't really "disconnect the transition from the blockchain"... as there is no "transition". The funds remain on the same address (as controlled by the private key) as already recorded on the blockchain.

@HCP:

Sorry for the late comment on this post.

So, the the Trace wihich gives a fingerprint on the blockchain is produced by the private key ?

What about the instruction ( Step 3 on the first page)  to withdraw with an private kay not with an transaction ? is this useless ?


May someone has an article how the blockchain could be traced that i'm ablte to understand the mechanism behind it. .. sorry I'm not an crypto pro

best regards moejoejay



 



 




 

[HCP]

It seems that you don't understand the basics of the blockchain... It is, by design, a completely public ledger, that records "transfer of value" from one ore more public key(s) to one or more other public key(s).

To be able to transfer value from any given public key... you need to be able to sign a transaction. The only way to successfully generate a valid signature is with the private key that matches the public key. The asymmetric cryptographic properties of a signed transaction allow anyone to validate that the signature provided matches the public key, thus proving that the person has access to the private key and is therefore the "owner"... WITHOUT needing to know the private key.

As value is moved from one address to another, you can follow the chain of transactions... from AddressA -> AddressB -> AddressC etc etc... You can see that the value moved from A to C (via B)

People use mixers, so they can then do this:

AddressA -> AddressB -> MixingServiceAddressX
... chain broken ...
MixingServiceAddressY -> AddressC

The idea is to "break the chain" such that AddressA can no longer be linked through to AddressC... With no direct link between MixingServiceAddressX and MixingServiceAddressY, you can't (easily) link A to C...

All of the convoluted things you are attempting (or think that you need to do) are unnecessary if you put the coins into a service like ChipMixer... it takes care of breaking the chain so that addresses used PRIOR to the coins being sent to the mixing service are no longer directly linked to addresses used AFTER the coins are withdrawn from the mixing service.

In ChipMixer's case, the majority of the private keys are actually funded well BEFORE you even send coins to the mixing service... which makes it even harder to track the flow. As you coins are effectively time travelling


NOTE: Mixing services are not 100% effective... Advanced analytics companies exist that can still determine movement through mixers to a certain degree. If you REALLY need full anonymity, better to use a privacy focused blockchain like Monero etc.

[jackg]

NOTE: Mixing services are not 100% effective... Advanced analytics companies exist that can still determine movement through mixers to a certain degree. If you REALLY need full anonymity, better to use a privacy focused blockchain like Monero etc.

As a point on this, chipmixer has an edge that means you can probably work out funds have come from them (as they use their transactions like an exchange do but with a bit more delocalisation). However, you can't really work out who's using them as chips are a fixed size so the private keys/transactions can blend into each other if the inputs/outputs are a similar size.

HCP gave a great simplified answer to your questions @moejoejay though.

[Ricky2018]

Hi, I need some support please... I transferred to the given deposit address and I have already 12 confirmations on Blockchain, but the funds have not yet arrived on the mixer? "Waiting for confirmed transaction."
I contacted support but no reply so far, would really appreciate some assistance.

[jackg]

Hi, I need some support please... I transferred to the given deposit address and I have already 12 confirmations on Blockchain, but the funds have not yet arrived on the mixer? "Waiting for confirmed transaction."
I contacted support but no reply so far, would really appreciate some assistance.

Did you hit F5/refresh? Usually that what fixes that issue for me.

[bitcoinmii]

Hi, I need some support please... I transferred to the given deposit address and I have already 12 confirmations on Blockchain, but the funds have not yet arrived on the mixer? "Waiting for confirmed transaction."
I contacted support but no reply so far, would really appreciate some assistance.

Did you hit F5/refresh? Usually that what fixes that issue for me.

Same issue, transfered today at it still says Waiting for confirmed transaction. Please refresh page.
If you have javascript enabled, page will autorefresh every 30 seconds.

The transaction has already 6 confirms.

[jackg]

Hi, I need some support please... I transferred to the given deposit address and I have already 12 confirmations on Blockchain, but the funds have not yet arrived on the mixer? "Waiting for confirmed transaction."
I contacted support but no reply so far, would really appreciate some assistance.

Did you hit F5/refresh? Usually that what fixes that issue for me.

Same issue, transfered today at it still says Waiting for confirmed transaction. Please refresh page.
If you have javascript enabled, page will autorefresh every 30 seconds.

The transaction has already 6 confirms.

Ahhh. So OK, as a note. If anyone is running firefox, tor or noscript, javascript needs to be enabled OR you need to autorefresh it then.
@bitcoinmii has yours fixed or is it still on pending? Can you try changing browsers (both of you) and use the same token/url.

[Ricky2018]

Hi, I need some support please... I transferred to the given deposit address and I have already 12 confirmations on Blockchain, but the funds have not yet arrived on the mixer? "Waiting for confirmed transaction."
I contacted support but no reply so far, would really appreciate some assistance.

Did you hit F5/refresh? Usually that what fixes that issue for me.

Hi, thanks for the reply. Yes I have refreshed the page and tried a different browser (Tor, Chrome). I have used chipmixer quite a few times and this is the first time I have experienced any issue. Any more suggestions? Currently on 29 confirmations

[jackg]

Hi, thanks for the reply. Yes I have refreshed the page and tried a different browser (Tor, Chrome). I have used chipmixer quite a few times and this is the first time I have experienced any issue. Any more suggestions? Currently on 29 confirmations

I'm sorry but you're going to have to wait for their support.
I don't think trying it on a different device will do too much (but you could always try it on a phone/another computer).

It looks as if it will most likely be a server-side issue. It's probably fully propagated on the network by now if it has that many confirmations (enough for chipmixer's servers to notice it if it is). Make sure you sent the support ticket with the token so they can fix your issue.

[bitcoinmii]

Hi, I need some support please... I transferred to the given deposit address and I have already 12 confirmations on Blockchain, but the funds have not yet arrived on the mixer? "Waiting for confirmed transaction."
I contacted support but no reply so far, would really appreciate some assistance.

Did you hit F5/refresh? Usually that what fixes that issue for me.

Same issue, transfered today at it still says Waiting for confirmed transaction. Please refresh page.
If you have javascript enabled, page will autorefresh every 30 seconds.

The transaction has already 6 confirms.

Ahhh. So OK, as a note. If anyone is running firefox, tor or noscript, javascript needs to be enabled OR you need to autorefresh it then.
@bitcoinmii has yours fixed or is it still on pending? Can you try changing browsers (both of you) and use the same token/url.

Yes, had tried with chrome and IE. Looks really like a server-side problem.

[Ricky2018]

Hi, thanks for the reply. Yes I have refreshed the page and tried a different browser (Tor, Chrome). I have used chipmixer quite a few times and this is the first time I have experienced any issue. Any more suggestions? Currently on 29 confirmations

I'm sorry but you're going to have to wait for their support.
I don't think trying it on a different device will do too much (but you could always try it on a phone/another computer).

It looks as if it will most likely be a server-side issue. It's probably fully propagated on the network by now if it has that many confirmations (enough for chipmixer's servers to notice it if it is). Make sure you sent the support ticket with the token so they can fix your issue.

Hi, OK, I have sent them an email at the proton email address with the TXID. I'll send them the Token now as well. Thanks again for the help and @bitcoinmii please post if you receive any reply from their support, I shall do the same.

[pnbamania]

Having same issue.. server side.. issue