[ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented

[Ronnyronny999]

Hello,

I'm still missing my 0.178 BTC from this mixer.

See the report here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5216701.msg53576764#msg53576764

I hope it can be solved soon.

This issue has been solved successfully! Thanks a lot to the ChipMixer Team! I really appreciate the way you solved this!

So, you made a mistake, accused them of being scam and they gave you 0.178 for free?

I must try this.

If you can't read and understand english, then take some courses first sorry.

So, you made a mistake, accused them of being scam and they gave you 0.178 for free?

I must try this.

Banking on the good faith of companies.... pfff.

I doubt OP tried to scheme chipmixer here.

Or... he pulled off a really eleborate scam, which i kind of doubt looking @ the other thread..

But really, i don't think anyone would do this intentionally. The chances of any mixer giving the funds back after a mistake by the user; (destroying their session?) are very slim (as they should be). Sure; people might try to abuse it now; but i think that'll be kind of obvious.

Quote from chipmixer from the other thread:

After investigation we have discovered that session awarded with chips was started 5 hours after deposit transaction. While destroying session ends our contract responsibility and funds were already used by other (lucky) user - we award you full value voucher for 178 mBTC.

I assume this means the funds have been redeemed by someone who had access to the session that was "destroyed" ?

If so; I assume the user in question was purely refunded out of good will, and not because there were any irregularities @ Chipmixer's side of operations? That's kind of unnecessary generous, especially if/when we don't know for certain the user didn't claim the funds himself. (Do we know that? i guess i don't.)

ChipMixer managed this in a very professional manner.

I assume this means the funds have been redeemed by someone who had access to the session that was "destroyed" ?

Yes this is exactly what happened here.

[webtricks]

Is using Chipmixer free? I mean zero fees?

[TryNinja]

Is using Chipmixer free? I mean zero fees?

Yes. They work based on donations. If you want, you can use them and pay absolutely 0 BTC in fees.

Keep in mind that for this to happen, you must send the exact value of one of their chips, otherwise, the difference will basically serve as a donation.

[webtricks]

Is using Chipmixer free? I mean zero fees?

Yes. They work based on donations. If you want, you can use them and pay absolutely 0 BTC in fees.

Keep in mind that for this to happen, you must send the exact value of one of their chips, otherwise, the difference will basically serve as a donation.

Cool! So as far as I send value which could be equally divisible in chips, the service is free?

Is it like:

if (bitcoin I want to mix % chip value === 0)
    the service is free
else
    the difference is treated as donation

[TryNinja]

Cool! So as far as I send value which could be equally divisible in chips, the service is free?

Is it like:

if (bitcoin I want to mix % chip value === 0)
    the service is free
else
    the difference is treated as donation

Exactly. They can't you give a custom chip of the difference - if there is any - so they obviously need to keep that.

[jackg]

I'm late but it's a sum of any chip value.

So it's more what you send module base chip (in this case 0.001).

Someone translated my script into java script and placed it somewhere, it'd be interesting if anyone finds it as it might be useful for other users here (I can bookmark the post then too).

[DireWolfM14]

I'm late but it's a sum of any chip value.

So it's more what you send module base chip (in this case 0.001).

Someone translated my script into java script and placed it somewhere, it'd be interesting if anyone finds it as it might be useful for other users here (I can bookmark the post then too).

I thought it was simply that anything under 0.001 gets donated.  For example; if I send 0.1029 I'll get "chips" worth 0.102, and forgo the 0.0009.  But if I send 0.102 then I still get 0.102.  Am I mistaken, is it not that simple?

[jackg]

Yeah. Modulo is the % maths symbol that takes the floor of the dividend based on the divisor.

So it just cuts off any of the remainder.

0.102 doesn't give you a 0.102 chip though, it gives you 0.064, 0.032, 0.004, 0.002 chips.

[HCP]

You can also choose to donate lany chips that you create (automatically or through merging/splitting etc)... so it isn't necessarily just the amounts less than 0.001 BTC that ChipMixer receives as donations.

Also, as per the faq:

What will happen if I send less than lowest chip?
...Sending 0.0015 BTC twice will result in three 0.001 BTC chips.

[TheBeardedBaby]

There is a fake Chipmixer website trying to scam if you are not very careful when you type the address. I think the real ChipMixer should be aware of this issue.
It's already reported in the Scam accusation section by TravelMug.

Warning: Fake Chipmixer website

Code:

https://chispmixer.com/

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[TravelMug]

There is a fake Chipmixer website trying to scam if you are not very careful when you type the address. I think the real ChipMixer should be aware of this issue.
It's already reported in the Scam accusation section by TravelMug.

Warning: Fake Chipmixer website

Code:

https://chispmixer.com/

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The phishing site is off-line already.

NameSilo Support <support@namesilo.com>
   
Tue, Feb 18, 12:30 PM (2 days ago)
   
to me, support
Hello,

Thank you for reporting domain: chispmixer.com

We have placed the domain on ClientHold status

[jackg]

Wow that's good for namesilo's image, how long did it take them to get back to you?

[LeGaulois]

Those are particularly vicious, if you don't check the certificate you can easily become a victim, especially if you don't see correctly, you may think there is dust on your screen

Code:

https://chipmixeŗ.com
https://chìpmixer.com

Notice the graphemes "ŗ" and "ì"

[jackg]

It's advisable just to not clock links and remember the official site is ChipMixer.com I think it's hard to get that I on android with the tail but it might be harder to avoid on apple depending on how they do it.

I'm surprised they're even allowed as domain characters, surely someone would've thought that's a problem...?

[stompix]

I'm surprised they're even allowed as domain characters, surely someone would've thought that's a problem...?

Punycode attacks
The actual domain is: xn--chpmixer-31a.com

Anyhow, tried my luck, I've sent an email to namecheap about them, let's see if they care about it..

[TravelMug]

Wow that's good for namesilo's image, how long did it take them to get back to you?

It took them like 3 to 4 days. In matter of hours they reply to my initial email, giving me another link where I can give them a more detailed report.

And then it took them that many days before they took the site offline. Perhaps they have some internal process to follow like verifications of the real chipmixer site against the fake one which they unfortunately manage.

[joksim299]

I'm surprised they're even allowed as domain characters, surely someone would've thought that's a problem...?

Punycode attacks
The actual domain is: xn--chpmixer-31a.com

Anyhow, tried my luck, I've sent an email to namecheap about them, let's see if they care about it..

That's scary!

[jackg]

I'm surprised they're even allowed as domain characters, surely someone would've thought that's a problem...?

Punycode attacks
The actual domain is: xn--chpmixer-31a.com

Anyhow, tried my luck, I've sent an email to namecheap about them, let's see if they care about it..

That's scary!

Yeah it's kinda something I'd have expected Web browsers to fix.

Wow that's good for namesilo's image, how long did it take them to get back to you?

It took them like 3 to 4 days. In matter of hours they reply to my initial email, giving me another link where I can give them a more detailed report.

And then it took them that many days before they took the site offline. Perhaps they have some internal process to follow like verifications of the real chipmixer site against the fake one which they unfortunately manage.

For both sides, it better to go off the innocent until proven guilty and it's probably better for them to do a bit of investigation first.

As well as they'd probably have to get a supervisor or manager to look over everything so 3 days is pretty fast in order to reduce people with control of the dns server to suspend an account.

[mixerwashinglaundry]

Are you guys still working in upgrading to SegWit? I found this thread of yours from August but I see that the addresses generated are still non-SegWit ones.

There are three misunderstandings in this post.
1. The other thread is about using Segwit features to increase privacy - for example Lightning Network. It would be separate service, not part of ChipMixer.
2. We are using Segwit transactions to create chips - they are cheaper to spend.
3. Bech32 addresses (for example bc1qw508d6qejxtdg4y5r3zarvary0c5xw7kv8f3t4) are called Segwit addresses but they are not required to use Segwit. They are not very popular, cannot be used by old clients and some customers fear the new. We are not implementing them till they gain more popularity.

This was posted November 04, 2017

Any chance that bech32 addresses will happen on chipmixer?

[jackg]

I think this will all depend on the inflow to ChipMixer as to whether its viable.

If they have thousands of users a week then it might make sense to allow both. Otherwise privacy may reduce if its only one or two people who withdraw their chips as native addresses rather than legacy.