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June 02, 2017, 04:39:39 PM |
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There is no question. DAESH is known to have used BTC. But there are very few in the "caliphate" who would know how. They have there own currency anyway. Apparently they are gold bugs. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fgmic.co.uk%2Fuploads%2Fmonthly_11_2014%2Fpost-19-0-51597000-1416388126.jpg&t=665&c=TpXh1eDSxkQyhQ) DAESH Coins in gold, silver, and cooper. This. You would have to be a fool not to use bitcoin in this particular scenario. The virtual anonymity should buy one enough time to do whatever nefarious thing they were going to do with the money, ESP if they are using strawmen to convert the btc to whatever currency they use. But have no doubt, beyond the fact that it has been reported that cryptocutrencies are being used to facilitate terror, it just makes sense. Bitcoin is about the most perfect way to launder/move illicit funds across borders. You can't move the amount of money you need to fund a war machine, without blipping on someone's radar.
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June 02, 2017, 04:58:55 PM |
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What can stop terrorists from the Islamic state to use bitcoin. I do not rule out this possibility. What's bitcoin? It is a universal currency and use it all. I wonder if Trump also makes a speculation with bitcoin. It is not the fault of the currency as it is used by the owners.
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June 02, 2017, 05:39:04 PM |
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What can stop terrorists from the Islamic state to use bitcoin. I do not rule out this possibility. What's bitcoin? It is a universal currency and use it all. I wonder if Trump also makes a speculation with bitcoin. It is not the fault of the currency as it is used by the owners.
The currency is not at all to blame for the fact that some people use it for bad purposes. But the media very often emphasize that bitcoin is used for drugs or terrorism. Do not focus on this
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June 02, 2017, 05:52:16 PM |
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It is quite possible. As its not possible to know who is funding and who is receiving which makes it a great opportunity to hide illegal transactions, without involving any names. More over its increasing value also helps them raise their allotted funds. And not only Bitcoin, they might use various other cryptos and also fiat.
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June 02, 2017, 07:54:32 PM |
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ISIS use anything they can to get what they want
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June 02, 2017, 08:50:50 PM |
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What can stop terrorists from the Islamic state to use bitcoin. I do not rule out this possibility. What's bitcoin? It is a universal currency and use it all. I wonder if Trump also makes a speculation with bitcoin. It is not the fault of the currency as it is used by the owners.
The currency is not at all to blame for the fact that some people use it for bad purposes. But the media very often emphasize that bitcoin is used for drugs or terrorism. Do not focus on this No worries, bitcoin is still rarely used to finance crime compared to USD. Also, the ISIS and other terrorist groups are using every available currency, because they operate in many different countries. It's obvious, that groups holed in the EU are using euro and groups in Britain are using pounds. Bitcoin is available to all, so it's nothing new that it's being used by all social and ethnic groups.
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June 02, 2017, 08:54:01 PM |
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I think they use bitcoin and other currency. Why? Because no one can trace them. And its very easy to use. They need lots of money for their work. Thats why they use cryptocurrency.
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June 03, 2017, 03:59:45 AM |
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No worries, bitcoin is still rarely used to finance crime compared to USD. Also, the ISIS and other terrorist groups are using every available currency, because they operate in many different countries. It's obvious, that groups holed in the EU are using euro and groups in Britain are using pounds. Bitcoin is available to all, so it's nothing new that it's being used by all social and ethnic groups.
I don't know how the ISIS is going to use Bitcoins. They are based in third world nations such as Yemen, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, and Iraq. Even if they get Bitcoins, how they are going to spend them?
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June 03, 2017, 04:43:13 AM |
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How and from where maybe by mining? or registering on exchanges then give their identity and documents to buy some Bitcoins? last time I checked Bitcoin only has $40B market cap while ISIS has more than $1500 billions, even the entire cryptocurrecies and their market caps are less than 10% of ISIS total wealth. That doesn't seem like a good choice to use for transactions. not to mention Israel is the one feeding them with money.
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June 03, 2017, 06:20:29 AM |
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?
I think they are using bitcoin, dollar, Japanese yen and all others currencies in the whole world. We must not limit it to bitcoin alone or crypto currencies. Though criminals are using bitcoin because of it anonymous status that do not mean if they have opportunity to use others currencies they will not go for it.
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June 03, 2017, 11:30:59 AM |
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Yes I think so because bitcoin is the currency used in deep web. And in deep web there were some people who sells guns, drugs and etc. I think ISIS are surfing at deep web or dark web probably because they aren't afraid of anything.
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June 03, 2017, 04:18:13 PM |
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Yes I think so because bitcoin is the currency used in deep web. And in deep web there were some people who sells guns, drugs and etc. I think ISIS are surfing at deep web or dark web probably because they aren't afraid of anything.
That is very sure. They know and they use bitcoin and all or maybe most of their transactions. If they will use bitcoin, aside from it is hassle free they do not need to reveal their identities or give any details. I wonder how much or how many bitcoins they have? For sure they have plenty of it.
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June 03, 2017, 05:50:31 PM |
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There is no doubt that they use bitcoins but at the long run they may have need to cash it for purchase of ammunition and weapons that's if the seller doesn't deal with bitcoins.
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June 03, 2017, 06:25:08 PM |
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There is no doubt that they use bitcoins but at the long run they may have need to cash it for purchase of ammunition and weapons that's if the seller doesn't deal with bitcoins.
I feel that the sellers are the people who teach those terrorists about many things. So no one can be sure. But personally I feel ISIS may be laundering through Bitcoins but it's using US dollar for sure. Because you can't be running an entire organization on bitcoins, for now at least.
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June 03, 2017, 06:28:12 PM |
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Bitcoin doesn't who you are if your using it. So most probably ISIS is using it. ISIS is an underground group and bitcoin is sort of decentralized platform for exchange of goods and services, then it's a safe haven for ISIS transaction right? that my personal opinion.
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June 03, 2017, 06:43:31 PM |
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Most probably they are using bitcoin. ISIS is using money so what will stop them using bitcoin. It is much wiser choice for them since it is decentralized.
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June 03, 2017, 07:03:52 PM |
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?
Well i think people can not say for certain, but there is a large possibility that terrorist group all around the world are using bitcoin as an currency. As you said, one of bitcoins characteristics is that it can be anonymous, and that is why it is perfect for groups that deal with non legal actions.
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June 03, 2017, 08:18:48 PM |
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No worries, bitcoin is still rarely used to finance crime compared to USD. Also, the ISIS and other terrorist groups are using every available currency, because they operate in many different countries. It's obvious, that groups holed in the EU are using euro and groups in Britain are using pounds. Bitcoin is available to all, so it's nothing new that it's being used by all social and ethnic groups.
I don't know how the ISIS is going to use Bitcoins. They are based in third world nations such as Yemen, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, and Iraq. Even if they get Bitcoins, how they are going to spend them? They are using it to transfer money from place to place. Think of it like this: you have a base operating somewhere in a desert shithole and have groups around the world. Weapons suppliers, bankers, people to bribe, people to recruit. You need to transfer money overseas every day and bitcoin is cheap and fast. It's also untraceable if used correctly with mixers and localbitcoins or withdrawing through ATMs. I doubt it's popular among them because I think they're a group of dumb goatfuckers, but there's a possibility...
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June 04, 2017, 02:17:35 AM |
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Yep the probability that they're using bitcoin for their transactions is high cause they even have sites in the deepweb and darknets nost likely they have also highly skilled hackers not just soldiers but also the Tech guys that post their vids in the darkweb. I usually dive in the deepweb looking for some gore videos and i often ISIS websites all over darknet they even have register function in there websites but i cant actually i guess you need to be invited or have specific ip address to be able to join their sites, bitcoin is widely use by cyber criminals in the darknet in order to hide their identity.
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June 04, 2017, 02:59:36 AM |
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Yes I think so because bitcoin is the currency used in deep web. And in deep web there were some people who sells guns, drugs and etc. I think ISIS are surfing at deep web or dark web probably because they aren't afraid of anything.
I don't think that the ISIS needs to purchase drugs and weapons from the dark net. In the regions where they are active (such as Syria, Afghanistan, Libya, Somalia.etc), these weapon are readily available in the open market.
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