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June 02, 2017, 04:12:54 AM
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?
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June 02, 2017, 04:26:53 AM
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?

There is a possibility that they are using bitcoin. But I don't think they do, what they need is equipments, connections and their goal, they do not need digital currencies. Terrorist are there for a long time, do you think they will be still there, lurking somewhere without someone giving them money, tips or equipments? They don't need to use bitcoin, but if they do, I think they are having a problem.
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June 02, 2017, 04:35:20 AM
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LOL.
as long as there is the good old US dollar which is untraceable, anonymous, easy to obtain, use and spend literary anywhere in the world, why would anyone with malicious intents want to use bitcoin which is traceable, not anonymous, hard to obtain, use and spend?!

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June 02, 2017, 04:37:18 AM
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Yes, tell me what are the reasons that restrict them from using bitcoin. They are earning money by selling their oil and buying weapons with those funds and they might be using bitcoin. However since they don't have much advanced connectivity, I don't think that the percentage is anywhere more than a percent or two.
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June 02, 2017, 04:38:03 AM
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?
May or may not be , we can't sure , the reason behind this is that the legalisation and regulations of the Bitcoin making the Bitcoin more open use and this retarding the people to use the Bitcoin for illegal purpose .
Here in my country the government is looking to regulate the Bitcoin , so if every country will do the same thing than How the ISIS agent will use the Bitcoin , since they can use ownself but everyone will not accept Bitcoin from them because after the legalisation and regulations we need to tell for the purpose that for which reason in got the payment and from where .

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June 02, 2017, 04:38:30 AM
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?
Didn't that one cell in Paris use Bitcoin or something, and weren't they somehow related to ISIS in some manner? So I guess the answer would be that, yes, they do happen to use Bitcoin, but probably not in all that effective of a manner.
I would doubt that they have more than a million or so in Bitcoin moving throughout their "economy" at any given time and there is a larger chance that just individual cells use it for what they do, not the entire org.
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June 02, 2017, 04:39:46 AM
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Who cares, we don't need this talk.
I am sure they use usd more.

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June 02, 2017, 04:40:05 AM
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?

Or do they use money at all? If so, then it's probably located elsewhere where people wouldn't suspect that tons of money are hidden there. One thing that's most important to them are weapons and killing people. It's either someone is supplying them weapons directly or they have their own factory where workers make their weapons. For the latter, then surely they are using money because they would have to buy the resources needed. If it's the latter, then they are probably just getting paid directly to their families at home because what are they even going to do with their money, they are so busy killing people.

So, is the money bitcoin? I doubt it. A huge amount of money will be paid to those that dare to risk their lives. All ISIS members have the assurance that they are going to die one day by all the terrorist attacks that they are doing. There's a lot of ISIS members, so probably BTC would have to pump harder than this if they are actually using bitcoins for accepting payments for doing terrorist attacks.

Or (back to my previous questions) are they using money at all? It's possible that they are all doing this just because they want to.

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June 02, 2017, 04:41:32 AM
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?

There is a possibility that they are using bitcoin. But I don't think they do, what they need is equipments, connections and their goal, they do not need digital currencies. Terrorist are there for a long time, do you think they will be still there, lurking somewhere without someone giving them money, tips or equipments? They don't need to use bitcoin, but if they do, I think they are having a problem.

And when they are making transactions with their suppliers or someone is giving them an aid it is in the concrete form or in physical form which they can use anytime though it is possible that the cash aids given to them are stored in Bitcoin. If you are talking about using Bitcoin in order to have resources to sustain their terrorist organization then I think no they are not. As a storage maybe but not a way as to earn some money since they rely to those who aid them and focus on buying equipment and planning how to commit terrorism.

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June 02, 2017, 05:42:02 AM
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LOL.
as long as there is the good old US dollar which is untraceable, anonymous, easy to obtain, use and spend literary anywhere in the world, why would anyone with malicious intents want to use bitcoin which is traceable, not anonymous, hard to obtain, use and spend?!

what's is untraceable about USD exactly? unless you are talking about counterfeiting, there is nothign anonimous about using usd, it can be traced easily, the only thing is that it can be obtained easily too

because unlike bitcoin, you don't need to "buy" dollars, bitcoin need to be bought first, and i'm sure that by doing this they would first increase the value and second expose themselves more
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June 02, 2017, 05:43:25 AM
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How useless would Bitcoin be, if there were things that you would not be able to do with it. < Good or Bad> We know ISIS is using dollars and other currencies to finance their operations, so why do we need to put Bitcoin in the spotlight? A terrorist can come into the country with fiat currencies or they can use stolen debit or credit cards.

Let's be honest, most people will rather use cash for these criminal actions, because it is more anonymous. ^grrrrrr^

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June 02, 2017, 05:54:24 AM
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?

There is a possibility however they don't seem to be interested in new technology except maybe new ways of decapitating someone.

There is no point for them to use bitcoin when it is actually easier to use USD cash. Because if you want to get bitcoin back into fiat currency you have to go through all sorts of verification. All in all I think there is a chance they do but it really shouldn't be a problem for common bitcoiners.
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I think yes because btc is the most secure currency that can keep them anonymously.. Huh
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June 02, 2017, 06:02:54 AM
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What am sure of is that they are using money in many forms be the local currency they are based at or maybe US dollars for international transactions and maybe even Bitcoin. However, since Bitcoin is not yet considered as halal (or am I wrong in here?) then maybe their use of Bitcoin can be limited and not really significant in any way.

Terrorist organizations will use any tool at their disposal to advance their cause to produce chaos and bring the whole to a standstill so they can demand whatever they may have in mind. They are out to change the whole world...not for the better but for the worst (in our views which can be contrary to what they believe in).
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June 02, 2017, 06:04:52 AM
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?

Maybe they will reply to you, I am sure they will be active here on this forum. Op how in the world can give a answer whether they use or not, there is no way to find out if they use, however since I haven't heard any news them demanding money in Bitcoins, I don't feel they do. But then again they could have had agents who do it for them, we can never find out this, until one of them is caught and admits to this kind of deals. Anyways hope they do not use it. Otherwise people will go berserk, and will think every btc user is linked to Isis
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June 02, 2017, 06:09:30 AM
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I don't think ISIS will have time to sign up to get a BTC address and I don't think ISIS will have time to wait for confirmation that funds has been received on in their specified BTC address. And to think that they are always on the go and their usual hiding places don't have internet connection, (jungle or desert) BTC is not a good option for them to use. Specially if they want to change it to fiat.
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June 02, 2017, 06:14:00 AM
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It's been floating in my mind if terrorists are using bitcoin and so ISIS is. But I doubt it that they are using it, I think someone is supporting them and that "one" possibly is a rich organization or person that is sending them USD. Maybe yes, and maybe no. Who knows it's better for them not to use any means of currency to stop their violence.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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June 02, 2017, 06:14:51 AM
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Yes, currently ISIS uses 2 Currency Type. Namely Gold Dinar and Bitcoin. Gold Dinar Coins are used for People who have ISIS mastered. While Bitcoin is used for ISIS Army Soldiers fighting and buying weapons equipment from the Dark International Market.
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June 02, 2017, 06:18:47 AM
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I don't think ISIS will have time to sign up to get a BTC address and I don't think ISIS will have time to wait for confirmation that funds has been received on in their specified BTC address. And to think that they are always on the go and their usual hiding places don't have internet connection, (jungle or desert) BTC is not a good option for them to use. Specially if they want to change it to fiat.

I agree I think it is not convenient for them to used bitcoin, the transaction speed is kind of slow, I don't think they want it and bitcoin is also not really anonymous, we can still track the transaction and not all people want to accept bitcoin as the payment token, so I doubt they used it


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June 02, 2017, 06:19:07 AM
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?
Most likely, they use it, but only if it buys in other countries or from them, because for transactions to buy weapons, drugs personally, this is very stupid, the transaction will be long confirmed.

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June 02, 2017, 06:22:35 AM
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No I dont think so. Now I don't know much about the IS or how they operate, but I think most of the trades are done by US cash. I think if they used bitcoins, they could easily be traced, cash cannot. I have no idea how they buy all their equipment, but I imagine they communicate via internet and pay with cash upon delivery.

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LOL.
as long as there is the good old US dollar which is untraceable, anonymous, easy to obtain, use and spend literary anywhere in the world, why would anyone with malicious intents want to use bitcoin which is traceable, not anonymous, hard to obtain, use and spend?!

Exactly! ransom and oil for example are worth millions per transaction (daily oil output from ISIS is millions). Using Bitcoin, this means a few thousand coins moving around making it so easy to trace by any of us. There's no easier way to say "Hello look at me" Smiley

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June 02, 2017, 06:29:13 AM
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ISIS is a world criminal organization (terrorists), it's hard to know how they do their transactions because it's classified and even the world investigation groups are looking for a traceroute (anything that can bring ISIS transactions). If they use Bitcoin I think it will become a problem to them because they might be traced through waves. Their supply of weapons and machinery are still a question but that is being investigated by world organization. We won't know, I don't know if they are using Bitcoin because I think they are using more deep under the table transactions than BTC.
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June 02, 2017, 06:43:48 AM
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?

Cryptocurrency terrorism,, terrorists using cryptocurrencies for funding terrorist activities is very low compared to the usage of dollars. The media has just blown it out of proportion, but not much truth in it.  Terrorist activities were getting funded even before bitcoin and so are now. The decentralized, anonymous nature of bitcoins might make it suitable for carrying out illegal transactions, but as far as terrorism is concerned so are other currencies. The donors who fund terrorist activities can easily send dollars or why any other currency as anonymously as BTC.

And as far as ISIS is concerned they are almost self-funding. Sales of oil and gas, taxes, extortion, agricultural products, drugs, and they looted $1 billion from banks in Syria.

So it cannot be said cryptocurrencies are specifically used for terrorist activities. If they are then it as same as they are using dollars or any other currency.
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I am 100% sure that they use BTC, but so do they use fiat!
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June 02, 2017, 07:10:21 AM
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They can be. Bitcoin can be used to fund their activities faster than money transfer and it is harder to track. It is being used in illegal activities, terrorism is not far behind.
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June 02, 2017, 07:13:17 AM
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Bitcoin is already all known now a days. It is not possible that even ISIS uses bitcoin. Because they can use it to hide their identities and for their transactions without even using their faces or ID's. And maybe they can use it for the future for their funds to terrorist and conquer other countries by using bitcoin.
               So, as far as ISIS is concern it is not possible that they use any currency especially btc now a days for their future plans.
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June 02, 2017, 07:18:36 AM
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?
If they normally use Local fiat currencies on their illegal activities then probably and possibly they do make use of bitcoin too knowing its anonymity features.yes, its convenient to use just a click away and you do make already make huge transfer of money for using it on terrorism.This is the advantage of bitcoin which it can really be used by those people who do really have bad intentions.

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There is a high chance that the isis is using bitcoin. But i also think that they don't really need bitcoin instead they need equipments and guns for them to sustain their lives since they are rebels.

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June 02, 2017, 07:28:07 AM
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Maybe, because I know that there is a guy on them which do know a lot about technology and other stuffs that is advance in this world, just like in the movies, there is a hacker that knows everything that keeps them updated on what is happenings around the world, and there is a possibility that they do know about bitcoin, who knows they are using it to secretly buy illegal firearms online.
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June 02, 2017, 07:47:02 AM
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There has been at least one instance in the past, when an Islamic State sympathizer/recruiter was found using Bitcoins to send funds to the ISIS. Ali Shukri Amin was sentenced to 11 years in prison for the crime in 2015, by a judge in Virginia.

http://insidebitcoins.com/news/american-teen-sentenced-to-11-years-for-helping-isis-with-bitcoin/34576
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June 02, 2017, 07:49:32 AM
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Certain individual members almost certainly use bitcoin but not ISIS as an organisation almost definitely don't use it in a consistent or organised manner. This is evidenced by the fact they hold huge sums of cash which regularly get bombed, plus their core members are in countries and areas that have poor internet infrastructure.

I think the only ISIS members that use bitcoin are probably self proclaimed ISIS members residing in western countries.
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i do not think  so they should rely heavily on fiat for their needs.
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yes. Maybe they use bitcoin. But there is one thing they sell oil and they buy weapons, but it is very possible they use bitcoin as their purchasing tool. To cover their identity.

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June 02, 2017, 08:30:43 AM
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There has been at least one instance in the past, when an Islamic State sympathizer/recruiter was found using Bitcoins to send funds to the ISIS. Ali Shukri Amin was sentenced to 11 years in prison for the crime in 2015, by a judge in Virginia.

http://insidebitcoins.com/news/american-teen-sentenced-to-11-years-for-helping-isis-with-bitcoin/34576
Then Bitcoin is used by them, I just hoped the time Amir was caught, the dontaion to these Dark wallet was halted.
I am thinking maybe these guy is a terrorist after all, he's name is Ali Shukri Amin, sounds like a terrorist name. What I am wondering is that why is he doing that? He knows that ISIS is the most dangerous enemy the government has, helping them is a treason, so what or how can helping the ISIS help him? Does he get any benefit from it?

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We can't remove the fact that ISIS is very powerful org. I mean, they can get anything if they want. So i'm pretty sure that ISIS CAN use Bitcoin but why the hell in the world would they need bitcoin if they more need guns and other things to sustain their lives.

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June 02, 2017, 09:01:12 AM
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I don't know if they use BTC, don't care either... I do know that some of their supporters are active on this forum:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=434490

I gave him a neutral tag a long time ago...
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June 02, 2017, 09:04:11 AM
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?
They may have started using bitcoins.But investigation results published during 13 November paris attacks have revealed that ISIS has not used Bitcoin.They would have thought that they may be safe with US Dollars instead of using psuedo anonymous bitcoin which could be traced.But it has been found that terrorist groups use social media like whatsapp,face book, viber for communicating between themselves.Even if they want to use crypto currencies,they have much better options like Monero,Zcash which are fully anonymous.
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June 02, 2017, 09:05:07 AM
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I don't think so if ISIS used bitcoin, because, I was confused where they form the cash they used to buy ARMO for battle. Maybe they used dummy account to bank, or they handle their own cash. Also maybe they used other person to open account to other savings bank.
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June 02, 2017, 09:07:49 AM
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There is a high possibility that ISIS uses bitcoin as their form of transferring money from one point to another. ISIS is a terrorist group that needs money to fund their needs for equipment so bitcoin will be one of the possible way to transfer big amount of money to that group and cash it out without being notice that is a black money.
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June 02, 2017, 09:14:09 AM
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?
They might be using bitcoin and again they might not be using bitcoins and have no clue what bitcoins are. But whats the difference? They are committing act of terrorism, just using a different form currency. They can still hide their identity using fiat currency, we all know that.

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June 02, 2017, 09:19:40 AM
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It seems logical for a global group like them to use btc, yes.

It's not really in our interests to even care though whether or not they do use bitcoin to fund their terrorist attacks. Nothing we can do about it. It's like the drug dealers using bitcoin, there is really no way that anyone can simply ban them from using bitcoin.

They could be using cash more than btc, precious metals, collectibles to finance their activities for all we know. As I said it isn't really a valid worry at all.

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June 02, 2017, 09:25:44 AM
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They only care about their idealism and money
looking at their big organization,i'm sure one or two of them using bitcoin either for fund or self investment
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June 02, 2017, 09:31:21 AM
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There is a high possibility that ISIS uses bitcoin as their form of transferring money from one point to another. ISIS is a terrorist group that needs money to fund their needs for equipment so bitcoin will be one of the possible way to transfer big amount of money to that group and cash it out without being notice that is a black money.
I do not think isis would be interested to used bitcoin and they can easily go to the bank and get more money, they used high tech gadgets but i do not think they would like to used digital currency like bitcoin. You said that they are terrorist and they can easily get easy money by hold upping some rich family or others.
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June 02, 2017, 10:39:43 AM
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A big yes.  Pretty sure they are using it like what you said that they can hide their identities.  They can buy illegal things like high powered machines, guns, illegal drugs, and the like without having a fear of being detected.  They maybe use it to fund their recruits or having their allowances on them.  But on the brighter side, we can buy things and have transactions without the hassle. 
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June 02, 2017, 11:25:47 AM
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?
Regarding from the latest criminal case that has used bitcoin to be his currency. I mean about the Wanna Cry malware and i think if it is possible the bitcoin to be used by the terrorist.
Bitcoin gives convenience for our privacy through use the pseudonymous aspect.
But this still based on our speculation. My thought if the coin with zero proof system will have become its interested coin.

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June 02, 2017, 11:28:06 AM
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it's possible for them to use bitcoin because of they need full anonymity and also easiest and fast way to transfer fund around the world
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June 02, 2017, 11:53:30 AM
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Possibly, I can't say for sure, only daesh and the intelligence services are certain. Global governments are actively looking, tracking and blocking all funding efforts through banking channels, donations have become harder to receive. So it is logical that they will look to bitcoin to hide their transactions.
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June 02, 2017, 11:54:06 AM
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?
This was asked several times before also. It's obviously yes, ISIS does use Bitcoin there is no way to prove it but yes it does. There was some news in past that isis user western union over bitcoin, and I think that is also true. It would be absurd to think such a  huge terriost organization using only a cryptocurrency.
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it's possible for them to use bitcoin because of they need full anonymity and also easiest and fast way to transfer fund around the world
I'm sure that ISIS uses Bitcoin and other currencies that help fund their projects. It would be pretty interesting if that group used only Bitcoin to pay for things and did not have any other type of currency within their base.

What happened to their ISIScoin? Did they begin distributing it yet?

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June 02, 2017, 12:22:43 PM
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Probably yes, bitcoin can show the balance and the transactions but the owner of the address is anonymous and also, bitcoin is the main currency of some markets in darknet so, they can buy some weapons in the darknet although there are some ISIS members are anonymous but they can't use banks to keep their funds so bitcoin is the option to keep and use their funds for weapons
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June 02, 2017, 12:27:31 PM
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?

It's perfectly possible, there is not anything to ensure that it will not happen. A few months ago, I read an article, and it said that IS used it to buy weapons of war. It is clear evidence, bitcoin is being exploited, and there is no way to prevent it. Perhaps we should accept the truth.





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June 02, 2017, 12:57:11 PM
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it's possible for them to use bitcoin because of they need full anonymity and also easiest and fast way to transfer fund around the world
I'm sure that ISIS uses Bitcoin and other currencies that help fund their projects. It would be pretty interesting if that group used only Bitcoin to pay for things and did not have any other type of currency within their base.

What happened to their ISIScoin? Did they begin distributing it yet?

What do you mean by ISIScoin? Does the said terrorist group is now a company? Do they have an ISIScoin now? When will be the ICO? Do they have the whitepaper? Who are the founders? Lol. ISIS are now here in the Southeast Asia especially in the Philippines. Let us all be safe.
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it's possible for them to use bitcoin because of they need full anonymity and also easiest and fast way to transfer fund around the world
I'm sure that ISIS uses Bitcoin and other currencies that help fund their projects. It would be pretty interesting if that group used only Bitcoin to pay for things and did not have any other type of currency within their base.

What happened to their ISIScoin? Did they begin distributing it yet?

What do you mean by ISIScoin? Does the said terrorist group is now a company? Do they have an ISIScoin now? When will be the ICO? Do they have the whitepaper? Who are the founders? Lol. ISIS are now here in the Southeast Asia especially in the Philippines. Let us all be safe.
Yeah I've also seen there ISIScoin and they make threads in this forum, but I forgot their thread in where section because I see it has been a long time. I'm sure ISIS uses bitcoin as well as their payment tool.

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June 02, 2017, 01:19:55 PM
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I'm sure it does. ISIS uses everything that can help to finance their dirty war especialy if they have good chances to cover their traces and money flow. Unfortunately Bitcoin can help them with that. They have specialized people who are monitoring new technologies that could be used for their terrorist activities. They are evil but they are not dumb.

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maybe, bitcoin is a great choice. everything like a buying weapon and etc will faster and keep hidden.  Grin
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There is no question. DAESH is known to have used BTC. But there are very few in the "caliphate" who would know how. They have there own currency anyway. Apparently they are gold bugs.


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June 02, 2017, 02:01:23 PM
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?
They might be using bitcoin and again they might not be using bitcoins and have no clue what bitcoins are. But whats the difference? They are committing act of terrorism, just using a different form currency. They can still hide their identity using fiat currency, we all know that.
I think we can be certain that they know what Bitcoin is, they're also active on the darknet, they know about encryption and have a whole team dedicated towards the use of technology.

Whether they use Bitcoin or not probably depends on how useful it is for them in comparison to other systems. In the muslim world you have something called 'hawala' which is used to transfer funds, I've read some articles that terrorists also use this system.

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I bet that LOADS of TERRORISTS have one time or another gotten hold of millions of dollars. Does that make dollar a bad thing? Absolutely not. Terrorists could as well trade in natural resources such as gold or diamond, does that make gold and diamond bad things? Absolutely not.
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Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?
I never though about this because i don't care what value their use to fund theirs terrorist actions. It doesn't matter, we should worry about their funding source only.
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There is no question. DAESH is known to have used BTC. But there are very few in the "caliphate" who would know how. They have there own currency anyway. Apparently they are gold bugs.


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This. You would have to be a fool not to use bitcoin in this particular scenario. The virtual anonymity should buy one enough time to do whatever nefarious thing they were going to do with the money, ESP if they are using strawmen to convert the btc to whatever currency they use. But have no doubt, beyond the fact that it has been reported that cryptocutrencies are being used to facilitate terror, it just makes sense. Bitcoin is about the most perfect way to launder/move illicit funds across borders. You can't move the amount of money you need to fund a war machine, without blipping on someone's radar.
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What can stop terrorists from the Islamic state to use bitcoin. I do not rule out this possibility. What's bitcoin? It is a universal currency and use it all. I wonder if Trump also makes a speculation with bitcoin. It is not the fault of the currency as it is used by the owners.
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What can stop terrorists from the Islamic state to use bitcoin. I do not rule out this possibility. What's bitcoin? It is a universal currency and use it all. I wonder if Trump also makes a speculation with bitcoin. It is not the fault of the currency as it is used by the owners.

The currency is not at all to blame for the fact that some people use it for bad purposes. But the media very often emphasize that bitcoin is used for drugs or terrorism. Do not focus on this

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It is quite possible. As its not possible to know who is funding and who is receiving which makes it a great opportunity to hide illegal transactions, without involving any names. More over its increasing value also helps them raise their allotted funds.
And not only Bitcoin, they might use various other cryptos and also fiat.
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ISIS use anything they can to get what they want

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What can stop terrorists from the Islamic state to use bitcoin. I do not rule out this possibility. What's bitcoin? It is a universal currency and use it all. I wonder if Trump also makes a speculation with bitcoin. It is not the fault of the currency as it is used by the owners.

The currency is not at all to blame for the fact that some people use it for bad purposes. But the media very often emphasize that bitcoin is used for drugs or terrorism. Do not focus on this

No worries, bitcoin is still rarely used to finance crime compared to USD.
Also, the ISIS and other terrorist groups are using every available currency, because they operate in many different countries. It's obvious, that groups holed in the EU are using euro and groups in Britain are using pounds. Bitcoin is available to all, so it's nothing new that it's being used by all social and ethnic groups.

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I think they use bitcoin and other currency.
Why?
Because no one can trace them.
And its very easy to use.
They need lots of money for their work. Thats why they use cryptocurrency.
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No worries, bitcoin is still rarely used to finance crime compared to USD.
Also, the ISIS and other terrorist groups are using every available currency, because they operate in many different countries. It's obvious, that groups holed in the EU are using euro and groups in Britain are using pounds. Bitcoin is available to all, so it's nothing new that it's being used by all social and ethnic groups.

I don't know how the ISIS is going to use Bitcoins. They are based in third world nations such as Yemen, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, and Iraq. Even if they get Bitcoins, how they are going to spend them?

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How and from where maybe by mining? or registering on exchanges then give their identity and documents to buy some Bitcoins? last time I checked Bitcoin only has $40B market cap while ISIS has more than $1500 billions, even the entire cryptocurrecies and their market caps are less than 10% of ISIS total wealth.
That doesn't seem like a good choice to use for transactions. not to mention Israel is the one feeding them with money.

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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?
I think they are using bitcoin, dollar, Japanese yen and all others currencies in the whole world. We must not limit it to bitcoin alone or crypto currencies. Though criminals are using bitcoin because of it anonymous status that do not mean if they have opportunity to use others currencies they will not go for it.
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Yes I think so because bitcoin is the currency used in deep web. And in deep web there were some people who sells guns, drugs and etc. I think ISIS are surfing at deep web or dark web probably because they aren't afraid of anything.




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Yes I think so because bitcoin is the currency used in deep web. And in deep web there were some people who sells guns, drugs and etc. I think ISIS are surfing at deep web or dark web probably because they aren't afraid of anything.

That is very sure.  They know and they use bitcoin and all or maybe most of their transactions.  If they will use bitcoin, aside from it is hassle free they do not need to reveal their identities or give any details.  I wonder how much or how many bitcoins they have?  For sure they have plenty of it.
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There is no doubt that they use bitcoins but at the long run they may have need to cash it for purchase of ammunition and weapons that's if the seller doesn't deal with bitcoins.

 
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There is no doubt that they use bitcoins but at the long run they may have need to cash it for purchase of ammunition and weapons that's if the seller doesn't deal with bitcoins.

I feel that the sellers are the people who teach those terrorists about many things. So no one can be sure.
But personally I feel ISIS may be laundering through Bitcoins but it's using US dollar for sure. Because you can't be running an entire organization on bitcoins, for now at least.

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June 03, 2017, 06:28:12 PM
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Bitcoin doesn't who you are if your using it. So most probably ISIS is using it. ISIS is an underground group and bitcoin is sort of decentralized platform for exchange of goods and services, then it's a safe haven for ISIS transaction right? that my personal opinion.
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Most probably they are using bitcoin. ISIS is using money so what will stop them using bitcoin. It is much wiser choice for them since it is decentralized.
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?
Well i think people can not say for certain, but there is a large possibility that terrorist group all around the world are using bitcoin as an currency. As you said, one of bitcoins characteristics is that it can be anonymous, and that is why it is perfect for groups that deal with non legal actions.
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No worries, bitcoin is still rarely used to finance crime compared to USD.
Also, the ISIS and other terrorist groups are using every available currency, because they operate in many different countries. It's obvious, that groups holed in the EU are using euro and groups in Britain are using pounds. Bitcoin is available to all, so it's nothing new that it's being used by all social and ethnic groups.

I don't know how the ISIS is going to use Bitcoins. They are based in third world nations such as Yemen, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, and Iraq. Even if they get Bitcoins, how they are going to spend them?
They are using it to transfer money from place to place.
Think of it like this: you have a base operating somewhere in a desert shithole and have groups around the world. Weapons suppliers, bankers, people to bribe, people to recruit. You need to transfer money overseas every day and bitcoin is cheap and fast. It's also untraceable if used correctly with mixers and localbitcoins or withdrawing through ATMs. I doubt it's popular among them because I think they're a group of dumb goatfuckers, but there's a possibility...

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Yep the probability that they're using bitcoin for their transactions is high cause they even have sites in the deepweb and darknets nost likely they have also highly skilled hackers not just soldiers but also the Tech guys that post their vids in the darkweb.
I usually dive in the deepweb looking for some gore videos and i often ISIS websites all over darknet they even have register function in there websites but i cant actually i guess you need to be invited or have specific ip address to be able to join their sites, bitcoin is widely use by cyber criminals in the darknet in order to hide their identity.

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Yes I think so because bitcoin is the currency used in deep web. And in deep web there were some people who sells guns, drugs and etc. I think ISIS are surfing at deep web or dark web probably because they aren't afraid of anything.

I don't think that the ISIS needs to purchase drugs and weapons from the dark net. In the regions where they are active (such as Syria, Afghanistan, Libya, Somalia.etc), these weapon are readily available in the open market.

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There is no question. DAESH is known to have used BTC. But there are very few in the "caliphate" who would know how. They have there own currency anyway. Apparently they are gold bugs.


DAESH Coins in gold, silver, and cooper.

This. You would have to be a fool not to use bitcoin in this particular scenario. The virtual anonymity should buy one enough time to do whatever nefarious thing they were going to do with the money, ESP if they are using strawmen to convert the btc to whatever currency they use. But have no doubt, beyond the fact that it has been reported that cryptocutrencies are being used to facilitate terror, it just makes sense. Bitcoin is about the most perfect way to launder/move illicit funds across borders. You can't move the amount of money you need to fund a war machine, without blipping on someone's radar.
Congratulations you just unlocked the mystery of how terrorists are funded, bitcoin and all the cryptocurrencies combined are nothing and I mean nothing compared to the real money going for them, so in a world where hundreds of satellites are orbiting the planet just to spy on people how could they miss the Israel's next door where the real danger could potentially be from? how did they miss for 4 years that they are transiting oil from Syria and Iraq and selling to EU countries for cheap?
You think those buyers didn't know who were they dealing with? they did but cheap oil was more important, now they are getting back what they made happen themselves, if you raise a lion in a cage some day you'll get attacked and eaten no matter how careful you are.
Enough of this bullsh*t about bitcoin being used by terrorists you idiots. did you really think people couldn't see the truth?
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I think and unequivocally I am convinced in my correct opinion that all special services if they knew that the igil is using crypto currency, then for a long time the clouds began to gather around the community of crypto-currencies. Since there is a very active fight against terrorism in the world now, it is clear that Bitcoin would begin to attack from all sides and completely prohibit its use if there were evidence of its connection with terrorism.
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When something can be used by criminals to boos their performance then it safe to assume they will use it.
Bitcoin is not even the best coin to be used if you are drug dealer and gun trafficker. Bitcoin is pseudo anonymous.
There are altcoin which offer greater dose of anonymity - Zcash, Monero to name a few.



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it's gonna take long time to earn money, LOL
in other hand they need it soon, they will think that it just waste oftime for them:D

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When something can be used by criminals to boos their performance then it safe to assume they will use it.
Bitcoin is not even the best coin to be used if you are drug dealer and gun trafficker. Bitcoin is pseudo anonymous.
There are altcoin which offer greater dose of anonymity - Zcash, Monero to name a few.


Bitcoin more widespread currency and investments in bitcoin less risky. I am sure that terrorists use any currencies, but it is not wine of currencies. Many terrorist organizations earn money on illegal oil production and diamonds. The most widespread currency in the world is dollar. Most likely it is also the main currency of financing of terrorists.
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When something can be used by criminals to boos their performance then it safe to assume they will use it.
Bitcoin is not even the best coin to be used if you are drug dealer and gun trafficker. Bitcoin is pseudo anonymous.
There are altcoin which offer greater dose of anonymity - Zcash, Monero to name a few.


Bitcoin more widespread currency and investments in bitcoin less risky. I am sure that terrorists use any currencies, but it is not wine of currencies. Many terrorist organizations earn money on illegal oil production and diamonds. The most widespread currency in the world is dollar. Most likely it is also the main currency of financing of terrorists.

You do have a point and yes terrorist can make use of any currencies and could also use bitcoin to buy illegal items on the dark web.  It is more of security reasons because of the transaction is untraceable unlike if you will use fiat currency.  But if you have lots of money then you become powerful and whether they use fiat still any transaction is possible because if money speaks everyone listens.
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June 05, 2017, 02:06:04 PM
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I personally, believed that they are.

Other terrorist as well are using bitcoin as mode of money transfer in my opinion. Some of them are just using a non-government organization as front so it will not attract much attention. I think even the FBI can already admitted that they have found links that indeed the terrorist are using bitcoin to hide their trail. So they can just withdraw their money using bitcoin and continue to funded their organizations. And the one that funded them will remain anonymous as long as they are using bitcoin to hide their identity.

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June 05, 2017, 06:42:37 PM
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When something can be used by criminals to boos their performance then it safe to assume they will use it.
Bitcoin is not even the best coin to be used if you are drug dealer and gun trafficker. Bitcoin is pseudo anonymous.
There are altcoin which offer greater dose of anonymity - Zcash, Monero to name a few.


Bitcoin more widespread currency and investments in bitcoin less risky. I am sure that terrorists use any currencies, but it is not wine of currencies. Many terrorist organizations earn money on illegal oil production and diamonds. The most widespread currency in the world is dollar. Most likely it is also the main currency of financing of terrorists.

You do have a point and yes terrorist can make use of any currencies and could also use bitcoin to buy illegal items on the dark web.  It is more of security reasons because of the transaction is untraceable unlike if you will use fiat currency.  But if you have lots of money then you become powerful and whether they use fiat still any transaction is possible because if money speaks everyone listens.
Perhaps it's really not worth listening to such tales, as if the igil can use Bitcoin. This is very bad news for users of crypto currency. But I hope that Bitcoin and its technology have not gone into helping terrorism.
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June 05, 2017, 07:35:18 PM
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ha ha, In order for somebody to be hired by the CIA as an ISIS employee they must have a poor understanding of the world and limited grasp of technology. So it isn't a question of whether they use it, it is a question of whether they are able to understand what it is. But certainly the people in Washington and Moscow and Beijing who manage pr for ISIS know what bitcoin is, and will try to give the simple idiots a sheen of literacy, an illusion of intelligence, by having some agents pretend to use bitcoin as terrorists.
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June 06, 2017, 08:09:39 AM
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?

Why not. ISIS has a strong intelligence i think and transacting with bitcoin would likely be a good option for these no-gooders. These people obviously are not stupid and btc would already be in their radars. Sad to say, but btc's features can also be taken advantage of by evil people

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June 06, 2017, 08:29:33 AM
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?

Absolutely.

Bitcoin is a tool and quite useful one at that, capable to bypass many restrictions put on fiat currencies.

They definitely use bitcoins, because they use it to buy weapons in DEEP WEB and trade them in the underworld, which is how IS works.


No, no, no.

Islamic State couldnt care less about trading via deep web, thats for small fishes. They have huge military arsenal from iraqi army, they have oil wells and they recieve more petrodollars from gulf, arab states.

State at war requires far more money, than some underhanded bussiness on deep web, leave that to Albanians.
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June 06, 2017, 08:33:01 AM
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?

Why not. ISIS has a strong intelligence i think and transacting with bitcoin would likely be a good option for these no-gooders. These people obviously are not stupid and btc would already be in their radars. Sad to say, but btc's features can also be taken advantage of by evil people

They need money for their secret and public operations, they need money for weapons and for everything else. In situation they are now it's not easy to move cash around, they can't use banks so what is left? Do they use bitcoin, yes for sure, and other coins also, some other coins can provide more anonymity then bitcoin.
They use bitcoin now, tomorrow something else, they need it and they will always find a way for achieving their goals, one way or another, people can die or suffer, its their nature, bitcoin has nothing with their character.

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June 06, 2017, 09:49:45 AM
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Why use a currency that is associated with anonymity when the whole world knows where you get your money from: The United States government, Saudi Arabia, and Israel.

Do your research. ISIS is a United States' funded organization. Operation Cyclone started out as an op where Reagan and his cronies began to fund the Mujahideen, to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan. We now know them as the Taliban.

Once called "Freedom fighters", they are now conveniently declared terrorists because interests changed, the arms fell into the hands of a different administration.

Again, I reiterate: America created ISIS.

No, they do not use Bitcoin. They use the USD, and the petrodollar. Oh, and they have a lot of it, too! Did you know that Bin Laden was part of the Saudi Royal Family? Yes, he was unhappy with how the Saudi government had ties with the US government. In fact, this is a talking point for Republicans who believe in labeling Arab anarchists as terrorists, too!

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June 06, 2017, 10:30:41 AM
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?

Why not. ISIS has a strong intelligence i think and transacting with bitcoin would likely be a good option for these no-gooders. These people obviously are not stupid and btc would already be in their radars. Sad to say, but btc's features can also be taken advantage of by evil people

Bitcoin is a tool and can get into good hands, or maybe into bad hands. Similarly, we can talk about dollars - they are also used by terrorists. It is not necessary that people had bitcoin associations - terrorism

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June 06, 2017, 12:02:56 PM
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?

Why not. ISIS has a strong intelligence i think and transacting with bitcoin would likely be a good option for these no-gooders. These people obviously are not stupid and btc would already be in their radars. Sad to say, but btc's features can also be taken advantage of by evil people

Bitcoin is a tool and can get into good hands, or maybe into bad hands. Similarly, we can talk about dollars - they are also used by terrorists. It is not necessary that people had bitcoin associations - terrorism
Well it can be same, at least nearly same, but it will never be same. Why you may ask, well first of all bitcoin is a lot harder to track than dollars. Second, you can use it when ever you like and not need to carry big bag full of cash with you. It easier to use and count. There are a lot of perks that bitcoin have and dollar do not. That is why it is good for black business things.
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June 06, 2017, 12:43:10 PM
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I would not know whether my neighbor is using bitcoin let alone ISIS  Tongue Criminals will find a way to transfer money and they keep on evolving be it bitcoin ,fiat or western union,so it is hard for anyone to find whether someone is funding for criminal activities unless the person behind the transaction is a criminal .

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I would not know whether my neighbor is using bitcoin let alone ISIS  Tongue Criminals will find a way to transfer money and they keep on evolving be it bitcoin ,fiat or western union,so it is hard for anyone to find whether someone is funding for criminal activities unless the person behind the transaction is a criminal .

You do have a point on criminals will find a way to transfer money on whatever means they want.  But the question is if ISIS uses bitcoin.  And yes you are again correct with they will find ways just to do their illegal activities on whatever modes or means of payment they want.  They are criminals, like ISIS who would always do things for them to be untraceable. 
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?

Why not. ISIS has a strong intelligence i think and transacting with bitcoin would likely be a good option for these no-gooders. These people obviously are not stupid and btc would already be in their radars. Sad to say, but btc's features can also be taken advantage of by evil people

Bitcoin is a tool and can get into good hands, or maybe into bad hands. Similarly, we can talk about dollars - they are also used by terrorists. It is not necessary that people had bitcoin associations - terrorism
Yes, bitcoin is simply a tool, so as long as there are bad people in the world it will inevitably used at some point for something bad.
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June 06, 2017, 02:46:20 PM
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No doubt they do.  Embarrassed
A easy way to hide where the funds come from and anyone can access the funds.
Other than using a bank account and being traced.
What do you think? Roll Eyes

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No doubt they do.  Embarrassed
A easy way to hide where the funds come from and anyone can access the funds.
Other than using a bank account and being traced.
What do you think? Roll Eyes

I think so.
After all, we already know that criminals and drug dealers using bitcoin very long time.
ISIS proved already many times that Internet and social medias is their main promotion tool and weapon.
So, no doubt that they know about bitcoin and already using it.
Bitcoin is anonymous and decentralized, no government control.
So, it's perfect tool for them.



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June 06, 2017, 03:04:25 PM
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Yeah surely they are using bitcoin I think as long as they can use anything to pay for their needs they will use it,
And bitcoin is pretty much famous in the internet and in deep web so I think that they are using it.

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Why use a currency that is associated with anonymity when the whole world knows where you get your money from: The United States government, Saudi Arabia, and Israel.

Do your research. ISIS is a United States' funded organization. Operation Cyclone started out as an op where Reagan and his cronies began to fund the Mujahideen, to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan. We now know them as the Taliban.

Once called "Freedom fighters", they are now conveniently declared terrorists because interests changed, the arms fell into the hands of a different administration.

Again, I reiterate: America created ISIS.

No, they do not use Bitcoin. They use the USD, and the petrodollar. Oh, and they have a lot of it, too! Did you know that Bin Laden was part of the Saudi Royal Family? Yes, he was unhappy with how the Saudi government had ties with the US government. In fact, this is a talking point for Republicans who believe in labeling Arab anarchists as terrorists, too!

Where did you get this facts? Do you have reliable sources? Let's say that your information are true, how can you sure that ISIS does not use Bitcoin? If they are now declared as terrorists, why would the government still fund them? We can never tell if they are using Bitcoin or not.
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June 07, 2017, 01:20:55 PM
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Why use a currency that is associated with anonymity when the whole world knows where you get your money from: The United States government, Saudi Arabia, and Israel.

Do your research. ISIS is a United States' funded organization. Operation Cyclone started out as an op where Reagan and his cronies began to fund the Mujahideen, to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan. We now know them as the Taliban.

Once called "Freedom fighters", they are now conveniently declared terrorists because interests changed, the arms fell into the hands of a different administration.

Again, I reiterate: America created ISIS.

No, they do not use Bitcoin. They use the USD, and the petrodollar. Oh, and they have a lot of it, too! Did you know that Bin Laden was part of the Saudi Royal Family? Yes, he was unhappy with how the Saudi government had ties with the US government. In fact, this is a talking point for Republicans who believe in labeling Arab anarchists as terrorists, too!

Where did you get this facts? Do you have reliable sources? Let's say that your information are true, how can you sure that ISIS does not use Bitcoin? If they are now declared as terrorists, why would the government still fund them? We can never tell if they are using Bitcoin or not.

Only the ISIS knows the answer if they uses bitcoins or not. Grin. But if you will think about where do they get their funds to buy firearms, to have money to recruit more terrorist then maybe some government funded these terrorist.  Because America is one of the manufacturers of firearms.  And if there are wars then that means a lot of money.  But I think IsIS knew about bitcoin and have tried using it or some have bitcoins and have bought and make transaction online.
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June 07, 2017, 03:24:47 PM
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Maybe yes, who knows?  But for sure they used dollars a lot to buy guns, ammo, pick up trucks, tanks etc. Bitcoin is used globally that's why there's always a chance that they might using it too.
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I guess for sure they do - guess it is the simplest way to pay all their troops throughout the world  Cry
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?

Let bitcoin away from the atrocities that the Muslims commit, blame the koran or know what these crazy people believe

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June 11, 2017, 04:11:58 AM
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In theory, a terrorist group like them would benefit from Bitcoin. ISIS probably has fiat from the United States and Saudi Arabia backing them though.

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In theory, a terrorist group like them would benefit from Bitcoin. ISIS probably has fiat from the United States and Saudi Arabia backing them though.

That seems to be the case. The ISIS does not feel the need to use Bitcoins right now, because they are having several other options. Or this may be due to the fact that usage of Bitcoin needs a minimum amount of computer knowledge.  Grin

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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?
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I'm sure they do. What kind of Arms dealer would you be if you didn't take Bitcoin as a payment option? I'm sure there's a guy over in Russia that's just got a loaded Bitcoin wallet just from ISIS.
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I'm sure they do. What kind of Arms dealer would you be if you didn't take Bitcoin as a payment option? I'm sure there's a guy over in Russia that's just got a loaded Bitcoin wallet just from ISIS.
We know all the benefits of Bitcoin and What ways you can bypass some of the requirements of states. So it would be very foolish if the Underworld did not use the crypto currency for their own purposes. We all know perfectly how you can comma and what you can do to avoid punishment. Therefore, I do not exclude that I have seen Bitcoin. And I generally keep quiet about Russia.
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No doubt they do.  Embarrassed
A easy way to hide where the funds come from and anyone can access the funds.
Other than using a bank account and being traced.
What do you think? Roll Eyes

I think so.
After all, we already know that criminals and drug dealers using bitcoin very long time.
ISIS proved already many times that Internet and social medias is their main promotion tool and weapon.
So, no doubt that they know about bitcoin and already using it.
Bitcoin is anonymous and decentralized, no government control.
So, it's perfect tool for them.




Using social media outlets, like Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, and so on is going to be something that is insanely different for a terror organization. I personally hold the view that their usage of Social Media is being used a scare tactic to hit the people that the West cares most about-- their children and the younger generation.

Plus, if these people are going to attempt to use BTC they're going to need to use BTC in combination with banks to be able to sell this off and get to normal currency. It seems like too much of a hassle for them to go through when they could be using cash which is MUCH BETTER at hiding as their is no paper trail when it comes to money.

So, no, not a perfect tool in the least.




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I saw Vitalik's interview and he said such thing: "Every great invention can empower the good and bad guy, it makes no different.

He is right. Bitcoin can be used for good causes and for the bad causes. It is not the fault of Bitcoin, if it is in use by the criminals and the terrorists. The main medium of money transfer for the ISIS is hard cash and international bank transfer. Does it mean that fiat money is evil?

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It will make it easy for them to buy parts for bombs and weapons without trace. But on the other hand they might not even know about cryptocurrency.
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It will make it easy for them to buy parts for bombs and weapons without trace. But on the other hand they might not even know about cryptocurrency.

I doubt they do not know about cryptocurrency.  I beleive they know everything and anything about technology.  They uses computers and well versed on technology.  They have programmers in their group.  They have their own website.  And maybe they have huge amount of bitcoins right now.  It would be easier for them to buy things used for their terror plans.
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is there any process to identify the bitcoin user..?
so there is a chance to abuse bitcoin in any illegal activities, it is really an alarming topic, that should be examined properly. if ISIS uses this platform then it will be a great challenge to protect bitcoin from them, so it must be focused...   
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You cannot know who uses Bitcoin because bitcoin users are anonymous. Unlike emails that carry user's names bitcoin transaction are strings of numbers and letter.Thus ISIS using bitcoin is not founded.

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Not only Bitcoin but DASH, Monero, ETH, and every other coin out there, not only ISIS but even if Hitler was still alive he would've used them too.

When you start denying people from financial tools and limit their access, obviously systems such as decentralized cryptocurrencies pop out

From every hole, remember the same limitations, monopoly and playing bosses forced Satoshi to think about creating Bitcoin.
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It is impossible to differentiate the company by occupation. Any modern people use technology because it is convenient. You can't blame bitcoin for something that they are terrorists. You need to blame the people who turn a blind eye to the activities of terrorists.
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A few ISIS supporters probably use bitcoin but I doubt ISIS does, I mean its not possible to use it offline and ISIS isn't exactly known for their strongholds in the middle of the developped world.
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They are not using it on a larger scale, just because it is inconvenient: use of USD/EUR cash, dirty bankers nominee figures and diplomatic allies are way easier and proven to be an effective solution for years.

Can you guess, how many ISIS supporters (direct and indirect) are actually living and doing business in US and UK? They are legitimate people for any other aspect, yet they have their reasons to be against current political elites of Persian Gulf and Middle East regions, and therefore financially support their opposition. And guess what? Most money goes to fund fighting, and we are not talking TV debates, we are mostly talking armed terror against government officials and civilians.
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When I was a newcomer to the Bitcoin sector, I remember visiting a Jihadi website accidentally in TOR (in 2012). It had elaborate plans on how to establish an Islamic Caliphate covering the entire globe and it even had a Bitcoin donation address. But I still don't know whether it was set up by the original Jihadis, or it was an attempt by the conmen to fool the Islamic extremists.
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When I was a newcomer to the Bitcoin sector, I remember visiting a Jihadi website accidentally in TOR (in 2012). It had elaborate plans on how to establish an Islamic Caliphate covering the entire globe and it even had a Bitcoin donation address. But I still don't know whether it was set up by the original Jihadis, or it was an attempt by the conmen to fool the Islamic extremists.
In fact, the percentage of bitcoin in the funding of Islamic terrorists is very small. Generally terrorist organizations are funded in cash. In many mosques collect donations for them. They earn on the trade in contraband oil. Bitcoin for them is nothing.
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When I was a newcomer to the Bitcoin sector, I remember visiting a Jihadi website accidentally in TOR (in 2012). It had elaborate plans on how to establish an Islamic Caliphate covering the entire globe and it even had a Bitcoin donation address. But I still don't know whether it was set up by the original Jihadis, or it was an attempt by the conmen to fool the Islamic extremists.
In fact, the percentage of bitcoin in the funding of Islamic terrorists is very small. Generally terrorist organizations are funded in cash. In many mosques collect donations for them. They earn on the trade in contraband oil. Bitcoin for them is nothing.
You are right they are mostly doing this with cash may be few peoples using this but its not by all its just by few because in few countries they are doing kidnapping for ransom and in few taking Zakat and fitrana all in cash its very easy for them to exchange because they have some strong networks for cash system
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I think they know about bitcoin but i really don't know if they are using bitcoin to buy weapons online we are not seeing a large crash when they are buying except if we hear that there is a trading site down or hack we will see a large price dump..
Since ISIS are holding a lots of money base in the news lots of weapon and i think they don't need bitcoin to transact their money to buy weapon....

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A few ISIS supporters probably use bitcoin but I doubt ISIS does, I mean its not possible to use it offline and ISIS isn't exactly known for their strongholds in the middle of the developped world.

In the event that they use bitcoins eventually, they are going to have to convert it into fiat and that does going to be a whole lot of problem, unless the persons they do business with accepts bitcoins as a means of payment.
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A few ISIS supporters probably use bitcoin but I doubt ISIS does, I mean its not possible to use it offline and ISIS isn't exactly known for their strongholds in the middle of the developped world.

In the event that they use bitcoins eventually, they are going to have to convert it into fiat and that does going to be a whole lot of problem, unless the persons they do business with accepts bitcoins as a means of payment.

There are many anonymous exchangers in which you can easily exchange the Cryptocurrency for Fiat. In this case, no one will ask you for documents that certify the person.

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A few ISIS supporters probably use bitcoin but I doubt ISIS does, I mean its not possible to use it offline and ISIS isn't exactly known for their strongholds in the middle of the developped world.

In the event that they use bitcoins eventually, they are going to have to convert it into fiat and that does going to be a whole lot of problem, unless the persons they do business with accepts bitcoins as a means of payment.

There are many anonymous exchangers in which you can easily exchange the Cryptocurrency for Fiat. In this case, no one will ask you for documents that certify the person.

Unless you are dealing with physical cash, it is quite easy to track the fiat currency. Bitcoins can't be tracked with ease, but once you convert it to fiat, it can easily be traced. As far as I know, the exchanges will credit fiat in your bank accounts only. They will not give you physical cash.

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It's been floating in my mind if terrorists are using bitcoin and so ISIS is. But I doubt it that they are using it, I think someone is supporting them and that "one" possibly is a rich organization or person that is sending them USD. Maybe yes, and maybe no. Who knows it's better for them not to use any means of currency to stop their violence.

ISIS is a radical offshoot of Al-Queda. Al-Queda was formed in order to help Afghanistan fight Russia in the............'80's I believe. Or early ''90s. And who formed, trained and supplied them? The CIA. It's a matter of public record.

Terrorists don't need Bitcoin as long as the CIA is still around.
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?

Yes they would use cryptocurrencies as anyone can use them and possibly also a variety of altcoins since they are easier to transact and move around, that said the conversion may be more of a challenge for ISIS than anything else but they do acquire a stream of income from a variety of sources so I would agree that it is part of the currencies they use for transactions.

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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?

Yes they would use cryptocurrencies as anyone can use them and possibly also a variety of altcoins since they are easier to transact and move around, that said the conversion may be more of a challenge for ISIS than anything else but they do acquire a stream of income from a variety of sources so I would agree that it is part of the currencies they use for transactions.

These are smart, crafty people we're talking about here. ISIS is not the type of barbaric villains that doesn't utilize technology. With how convenient their transactions can be through cryptos, it's almost certain that they're already using it for their dealings.

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It's been floating in my mind if terrorists are using bitcoin and so ISIS is. But I doubt it that they are using it, I think someone is supporting them and that "one" possibly is a rich organization or person that is sending them USD. Maybe yes, and maybe no. Who knows it's better for them not to use any means of currency to stop their violence.

ISIS is a radical offshoot of Al-Queda. Al-Queda was formed in order to help Afghanistan fight Russia in the............'80's I believe. Or early ''90s. And who formed, trained and supplied them? The CIA. It's a matter of public record.

Terrorists don't need Bitcoin as long as the CIA is still around.

I am not sure whether the ISIS is an offshoot of the Al Qaeda. But I have no doubt that similar to the Al Qaeda, the ISIS was also created and trained by the CIA. A few days back, Tulsi Gabbard, the US representative from Hawaii confirmed this.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/congresswoman-tulsi-gabbard-blasts-obama-funding-isis-introduces-stop-arming-terrorists-act/

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It's been floating in my mind if terrorists are using bitcoin and so ISIS is. But I doubt it that they are using it, I think someone is supporting them and that "one" possibly is a rich organization or person that is sending them USD. Maybe yes, and maybe no. Who knows it's better for them not to use any means of currency to stop their violence.

ISIS is a radical offshoot of Al-Queda. Al-Queda was formed in order to help Afghanistan fight Russia in the............'80's I believe. Or early ''90s. And who formed, trained and supplied them? The CIA. It's a matter of public record.

Terrorists don't need Bitcoin as long as the CIA is still around.

I am not sure whether the ISIS is an offshoot of the Al Qaeda. But I have no doubt that similar to the Al Qaeda, the ISIS was also created and trained by the CIA. A few days back, Tulsi Gabbard, the US representative from Hawaii confirmed this.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/congresswoman-tulsi-gabbard-blasts-obama-funding-isis-introduces-stop-arming-terrorists-act/

Do you know Obama is no longer president?

That website is run by a psyops unit at Ft Bragg, NC.

The purpose of that article was to discredit people, by using sloppy journalistic techniques. They appear to support Tulsi but the net effect, and purpose, of the article is to discredit her. The United States wastes a vast amount of money getting retards to do pointless things in defense of the indefensible.
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?
I would not eliminate it. I suppose that they have specialists in the most different directions. Including in the use of Bitcoin.
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Alright. If ISIS use Bitcoin, why would they do that? For what purpose? Virtual currency becomes more accessible, thus I suggest as bitcoins becomes more decentralized it's easy for them to store and transfer money what makes it almost impossible to control transactions and its origins.
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?
It's possible that some of them are familiar with bitcoin, and they also know the degree of risk of using bitcoin in acts of terrorism can make their activities traceable, so I think they prefer to use USD rather than bitcoin.
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Of course because members of Islamic State of Iraq is not just one or two people, but over hundreds people.
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It could be possible...
These kind of scenario is not far from happening...
There are terrorist around the world who idolizes ISIS.
And through this isis could fund their terroristic activities. They could send financial supprot without being detected through cryptocurrencies...

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If they have rich sponsors, they can. But why do they need money? They can take weapons only and their families can take money

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there s a lot of chance for them to use it as it is a anonymous payment system if they use it it will help them in lots of way. not them if any body wants to hide his identity will use it for sure. so i think they use it
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It is quite near possible for me because in my opinion criminals like ISIS had a lot of connections that brings them to become more powerful. But I don't think it is the ISIS itself who uses bitcoin but a higher rank ISIS that called himself different from ISIS and not part of the so called group. So therefore there is a fund distributor on their needs, equipments and etc. provided by the so called non ISIS leader but provider to achieve their desire. That we all knew is also possible, to facilitate their transcations.
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maybe isis uses bitcoin because we don't know what they do but i think with bitcoin, they don't have to worried their identity to be reveal to public. with bitcoin, they can free to send and receive money in bitcoin amount and then they can withdraw into money to fund their activity. bitcoin can cover illegal and legal activity for every people but its depend on every people what they want with bitcoin.

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That wouldn't be impossible. It won't exposed their identity afterall so they can transact without getting any attention.
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ISIS and any other bloody horrible terrorist organisations are definitely use bitcoin for their transactions because their bloody money cannot be traced with this way. As a result of this, they can easily wire money to their terrorists and this terrorists attacks innocent people with the help of this bloody money.

 
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August 19, 2017, 07:00:25 AM
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Even if the ISIS is using BTC, it is in very small quantities. First of all, Bitcoin is not 100% anonymous, like physical cash. And secondly, there is no established market for Bitcoins in the countries where the ISIS is active, such as Yemen, Afghanistan, Syria and Iraq.

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Hmmm. I think Isis can really use bitcoin to buy illegal weapons because of the anonimity of bitcoin.
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Wouldn't matter if they did sometimes, because I'm sure they are mostly using cash.
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Spectrecoin'slatest update is confirmed running in TOR Bocked regions Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, UAE, China.

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The technology allows malicious groups to do transactions, just look at the ransomware attacks. Therefore there is a high likelihood in my opinion.  It's a shame that Bitcoin and blockchain technology, while it mostly only has upsides, has received negative publicity due to their actions.

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Wouldn't matter if they did sometimes, because I'm sure they are mostly using cash.

Hard cash and bullion. When they invaded Mosul, they looted more than $300 million worth of US Dollar banknotes from the local branch of the central bank, on top of several tons of gold. They have received their ransom payments in US Dollar and other fiat currencies. And most of their revenues from crude oil / antique smuggling have also been in fiat cash.
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?

I don’t think ISIS uses Bitcoin. You know, they were collecting weapons, training their people, planning for their next attack, imagine how busy they are to join this forum. At some point, maybe they’re using Bitcoin to hide their identity, even if they are not using bitcoin ISIS are not easy to identify.
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Possible it is their general finance base
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Possible it is their general finance base
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Exactly. It suits them really. And i'm sure that with btc's emergence, isis would already be pouncing on the opportunity to use bitcoin and it's features. Makes it a lot easier for them to make faceless transactions

 
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Yes I do think ISIS also uses bitcoins since bitcoin are hard to detect and trace when transacting and using it online. I think not just ISIS but also other criminals and terrorist organizations uses because it is decentralized.
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If so, then what? If not, then what? ISIS may use Bitcoin because besides being free to use anyone, Bitcoin is also more secret, but I do not think it's too important to know. Well, maybe that's one of the advantages that can at the same time be a weakness of bitcoin, that is too free to be used by anyone.
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Just like bitcoins, I am sure that ISIS uses the US dollar and other major currencies as well. Without doubt people are using the cryptocurrency for illegal and legal things as well just like everything in the world, there is a good side and a bad side.
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Terrorist and hackers use Bitcoin but i think ISIS uses bitcoin about 5% Because they need fast money (physical ) so they sold gold , oil and other things rather than digital one
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We cant say  ISIS uses Bitcoin for sure , it needs evidence . I whish they dont use to bitcoin for their needs and i wish bitcoin name will stay clear all time  and bitcoin name doesnt call with  such issues . Isıs can use gold or dollar or euro too for their needs but it does not  mean dollar or gold or euro are  bad things .
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?

I guarantee they are... They are also using USD, EUR, JPY, NZD, GBP, Gold, Silver & any other liquid asset. Crypto is just another one in the mix.

As long as we have had some form of currency, there has been fraud. The only thing Crypto allows us to do is speed it up. Crypto is open and therefore traceable. Its far worse to use Crypto for fraud than old school Cash & Gold.
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It would be very unlikely, given that to carry out such transactions would require a specific market built within a cyber network, with catalog or marketing proposals. However, they do not need this, they receive thousands of dollars in their sale of oil on the (physical) black market. Not counting their exchanges and equipment transactions among other organizations. The other point would be that somehow they do not trust the "western" internet. Even with all the secrecy of DeepWeb, there is no assimilation of net neutrality for them.
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I think it could be isis using bitcoin, because anyone can use bitcoin. whether ordinary people or terrorists can use it.
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?

Smiley I think ISIS doesn't use bitcoin. Because they need paper money to buy weapons or something else. In the future if there is a terrorist group called ISIS, they may use bitcoin 10-20 years later. Terrorism in the world will never be stopped. Not ISIS but the other ones will use bitcoin. I hope terrorism ends and bitcoin continues.

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LOL.
as long as there is the good old US dollar which is untraceable, anonymous, easy to obtain, use and spend literary anywhere in the world, why would anyone with malicious intents want to use bitcoin which is traceable, not anonymous, hard to obtain, use and spend?!

Exactly. And it has already been established that The US government has sent loads of these dollars in that direction, which also explains the thousands of beautiful new Toyotas which ISIS proudly used, and which were NOT bought with bitcoins.
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?

Definitely yes, the ISIS uses bitcoin. I mean, come one, what is the chance that there is no member there that has no idea in using bitcoins; infinitely small. On perk that they may abuse in using bitcoins is that bitcoin is a very fluid transaction medium, wherein trades and services may be done/paid using these deregulated currency.
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Yes for sure.
Because they can do payments without monitoring any government bank.This is the bitcoin power
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I’m not sure if ISIS used BiTcoin if they do we don’t know what there reason of using Bitcoin,but why not if they also want what we want for using Bitcoin!
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?

Definitely yes, the ISIS uses bitcoin. I mean, come one, what is the chance that there is no member there that has no idea in using bitcoins; infinitely small. On perk that they may abuse in using bitcoins is that bitcoin is a very fluid transaction medium, wherein trades and services may be done/paid using these deregulated currency.

Even if the ISIS guys gets some Bitcoin, what they are going to do with them? What they need is ammunition and weapons and I don't think that anyone in Syria or Iraq will be willing to provide these things to them in exchange for Bitcoin. And as far as I know, the ISIS is having far better options for funding, such as the Russian online payment system Qiwipay.

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yeah i think they used bitcoin to transact anything that used bitcoin,,because the government is no power in bitcoin.

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It's a possibility. Hopefully no, though.
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?
ISIS may use bitcoins to support their activities, because they can do anything as long as their goals can be achieved.

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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?
This is very possible. They are being operated by a powerful group composed if very powerful individuals. And so these people would get their filthy-dirty hands on anything they trade with and gain profit from thru illegal activities. I have a strong feeling that they are also using bitcoin to purchase some of their weaponries..

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I don't think that ISIS is using Bitcoins, but they have probably applied with several accounts for the airdrop of DeepOnion, and this is why DeepOnion is rejecting so many applications for their airdrop.
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?
i think that they are not using bitcoin , ISIS terrorists group is supported by the rich people in the world, they don't need to use bitcoin , all they want is too make stronger and more powerful for their equipments and foods for their people. And i think that they are not gonna waste time joining in signature campaigns , bounty campaigns and airdrops .

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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?


Maybe some of them are using bitcoin. Because it is a source of money for them  and maybe some of their member might be a social media addict or techi. And their identity can't be exposed using bitcoin.
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?

It is a distict possibility that ISIS might be using bitcoin as a way to increase their funding or to transfer funds ehih moght not be otherwise easily detected by intelligience agencies that try to crack them down. This is actually something that we should look forward to.
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There's a chance/possibility that they're using bitcoin, after all BTC is one of the good way to increase your funds, sell when it pumps, buy when it dumps, I but I think it's not necessary, correct me if I'm wrong but, we all know that rich people are the one who are behind this groups, funding them to create either chaos, war or terrorism.

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When you are supported by the U.S. like ISIS is, why would you want to mess around with Bitcoin? Simply use the American Dollar for anything you want. After all, that's how the U.S. pays you. Then, if Bitcoin turns out to be something big in the future, that will be the time to move into it.

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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?


There is a chance that ISIS might be using bitcoin as well. This is for the reason that when they transact using money it’s very easy to trace unlike bitcoin. Same with the North Korea’s leader, he too also uses bitcoins.

 
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Terrorists use bitcoin. It's natural because it's anonymous  Cool
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October 23, 2017, 12:06:20 PM
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probably because ISIS is a group that is always hidden in its existence and because bitcoin is a means of exchange that anyone can use and can be said "anonymous" is easy for the ISIS group to use a transaction exchange tool using bitcoin
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October 28, 2017, 08:47:26 AM
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Like many criminals use BTC in the dark site, yes, they can use BTC on dark site to buy drugs and weapons.
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For sure yes!
They get supporters from all over the world which they should send them Bitcoin BTC as well because BTC is no border!

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Not at all, they only use Dash. Even though they pronounce it Daesh.

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Most likely they are using it. I think, USA exchanges identification rules are introduce by government, to trace the terrorists. bt i dont think it will do, because there are lots of decentralized exchanges around the world
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may be.but im sure they are using usd
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Ahhhh....  I don't think they are use botcoin.
I think they are using more USD as well....  Undecided
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October 28, 2017, 06:42:52 PM
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I doubt it, tons of government and influential people who benefits from their staged war and terrorism pays them, so they don't need to for they have more than enough money.

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Why not ? Bitcoin were designed for security reasons. Because of its features, It became the best friend for criminals and terrorists
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 I used to visit the deepweb and see bitcoin used a lot, of course the terrorists would use it, like to buy weapons or get donations.
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But ISIS doesn't need Bitcoin. After all, they are supported by the US dollar that the US Government gives them.

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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?
it could be, bitcoin is growing very rapidly, many people already know about bitcoin, it is possible that ISIS uses bitcoin as well, at least one of their members who know and use bitcoin.
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I think they buy weapons on deep web and YES they do use bitcoin if they need to buy it. We know bitcoin transactions are anonymous and ISIS members need this feature to buy some things to accomplish their goal.

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I think they buy weapons on deep web and YES they do use bitcoin if they need to buy it. We know bitcoin transactions are anonymous and ISIS members need this feature to buy some things to accomplish their goal.

Who told you that they are purchasing weapons from the dark markets? Till now there has been zero evidence for this claim. They have much easier options. They get most of their arms from the weapons dealers in Turkey. And they make the payments either in hard cash (US Dollar, Iraqi Dinar, Turkish Lira, or Syrian Pound), or as barter to crude oil.

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There is a possibility that they are using bitcoin, since I also heard some news that some criminals use bitcoin to make their illegal transactions. They are using to hide their true identity because we can also fake our identity online which I think criminals will possibly do it.
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?

Pretty sure they do! In bitcoin there is anonymity and also they can propagate the propaganda here especially on this forum. To have money to forward their cause and besides im sure transactions here are more anonymous besides making money, they can also have transfers

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I think if they use USD, nothing restricts them from using bitcoin. But what does it change? Everything can be good or bad, only a person defines the character
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Cash stays king. I think that they sell there oil for cash and women. Maybe some camels too.
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?

There's a possibility that ISIS or other terrorist organizations are using bitcoin. Bitcoin is the best, convenient and easiest way to transfer funds without even getting attention from the government, military, or police. I think most illegal transactions can use bitcoin transaction because it is safer than sending money in bulk or delivering it.

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November 21, 2017, 06:04:22 PM
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No, i dont think ISIS uses Bitcoin because of owned bitcoin we have to mining ( this can not happen) or buy it by your money in your bank but no bank accept ISIS
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Do you think that ISIS exist ?
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?

There's a possibility that ISIS or other terrorist organizations are using bitcoin. Bitcoin is the best, convenient and easiest way to transfer funds without even getting attention from the government, military, or police. I think most illegal transactions can use bitcoin transaction because it is safer than sending money in bulk or delivering it.

It's safe but they can be tracked too. They may use BTC but it's probably not their favourite way to pay or send money. Physical cash remains the safest option to me

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I think bitcoin use isis
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It is because bitcoin is very popular know in this world so it is not impossible that the ISIS terrorist also using it
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?
There is an article I've read that all Islams hated the use of modern technologies, maybe its because of their religion. Although I highly doubt that they do not use Bitcoin, it is a fact that they don't like how the modern society works.

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Probably yes, one factor that give them money and i think it's untraceable transaction that going to their fund.
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Probably yes, one factor that give them money and i think it's untraceable transaction that going to their fund.

They may be getting some of their funding in the form of Bitcoins (and the other crypto-currencies), but I am sure that the proportion may be very insignificant. Even if they get the Bitcoins, how they are going to spend them? I am not sure whether the arms smugglers and farmers of Syria accept Bitcoins. Even if they do, the markup will be very hefty.

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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?

Pretty sure they do. I mean crypto currencies are acceptable almost worldwide, at least in major countries. Crypto currencies gives anonymity to the transactions and it's fairly easy to learn and earn off on. It's not surprising to think that criminals use bitcoin. Besides, thinking that only good people use bitcoin is borderline naive.

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Certainly. Of course they are using Bitcoin, Bitcoin is an anonymous currency which can't be traced if your identity isn't linked with any of the addresses. Unfortunately, this is one of the down sides of Bitcoin is that it encourages shady businesses to operate using Bitcoin.

Bitcoin is the currency that anyone dealing in drugs, weapon and human trafficking would use due to the anonymity of it. I must add that cash is also a widely used solution but I believe with the price of Bitcoin increasing and the popularity we'll be hearing more and more about shady operations using Bitcoin.

The only reason I can't see them trading in Bitcoin, is because of the transactions on the blockchain and being publicly available to everyone. I don't believe ISIS is a group as we seem to label them as but individuals who perform acts of terrorism individually as anyone who performs an act of terrorism is almost always linked with ISIS and "ISIS" always claim the act.
Do you think that ISIS exist ?

Are you implying that the USA and it's allies fabricated ISIS? What a unique point of view you have there...

Probably yes, one factor that give them money and i think it's untraceable transaction that going to their fund.

I generally agree. There's only a slight issue with them using Bitcoin and that is; It has a public trail via the blockchain. If they ever slip up and expose their address then it will be publicly known throughout the world and openly out there for everyone to verify and see. Whether or not they care about being exposed is another thing. As a group they probably don't care, but individually they probably do.

They may be getting some of their funding in the form of Bitcoins (and the other crypto-currencies), but I am sure that the proportion may be very insignificant. Even if they get the Bitcoins, how they are going to spend them? I am not sure whether the arms smugglers and farmers of Syria accept Bitcoins. Even if they do, the markup will be very hefty.

Why does it have to be insignificant? How often are ISIS and related groups found to be trading in weapons? Smugglers would easily be able to dispose of Bitcoin if they wanted to use a more traditional route. Bitcoin could be held by them to fund future expeditions if they believe that Bitcoin can keep on rising.  

It could be possible...
These kind of scenario is not far from happening...
There are terrorist around the world who idolizes ISIS.
And through this isis could fund their terroristic activities. They could send financial supprot without being detected through cryptocurrencies...
It's likely that it's already happening right now. To be fair though, cash is probably a better choice for them than Bitcoin. It's likely that their cash they have earned is through plundering and they'll want to send that money tax/fee free. That just isn't possible with Bitcoin if you want a decent confirmation time. Each time you send Bitcoin you are going to need to send the equivalent of a few USD at current rates today to get it to confirm within an hour.

Now I don't think these are the times of people who are willing to pay any fees. Just a hinge though.
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Terrorist will used everything to fund their terrorist attacks. Whether its bitcoin or fiat. I think some members of ISIS are into bitcoin to get some fund to buy their needs like guns and bombs.

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Of course, terrorists would do anything to fund their programs. With cryptos its easier for them to sponsor their community members all around the world. I believe, that the schemes which they're using are really simple, simplicity is their key. Key for all western world locks... its sad
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Why does it have to be insignificant? How often are ISIS and related groups found to be trading in weapons? Smugglers would easily be able to dispose of Bitcoin if they wanted to use a more traditional route. Bitcoin could be held by them to fund future expeditions if they believe that Bitcoin can keep on rising.  

It is insignificant, because that is what the ground reports indicate. The ISIS seems to be having much better payment options to purchase their weapons. Most of their weapons come from the Turkish and Arab cartels, and these people mostly accept United States Dollar, or bullion (gold). Sometimes weapons are purchased in exchange for crude oil.

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Maybe,  they use this funds to sustain their terrorism acts. As well as to fund their operation activities.

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Those guys are evetually using dolloars to buy weapons, i am so sure about that.
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I am sure ISIS and other torrorist organisations use Bitcoin along with many others. They sell oil too, after seizing ports and oil fields. They deal drugs ad people smuggle too. If its bad and illegal, ISIS do it all. How can they buy all those 4x4 TOyotas
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?

I don't think so. The number of chances of ISIS to use bitcoin for their transaction is very minimal. This is due to the reason that in the transaction website, it usually requires some supporting details for identity clarification. Now, if you are being hunted down by some authorities or people who you consider as enemy, would you expose your identity to popular websites? I doubt it.

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There is a very big person or organization who drives the terrorist so they don’t need income anything by using bitcoin but there is a small possibility of using it because they doesn’t need to submit their legal information so they can easily motive their mind to use it
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I am sure ISIS and other torrorist organisations use Bitcoin along with many others. They sell oil too, after seizing ports and oil fields. They deal drugs ad people smuggle too. If its bad and illegal, ISIS do it all. How can they buy all those 4x4 TOyotas

Bitcoin is pseudonymous, not anonymous, so it's real to connect it to real identities. Maybe it was used before because there were no alternatives but now we have Monero.
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if they can access internet and verify their ID , almost i think they can do what they want
even if they want , i dont think they will wanna try use bitcoin to buy guns
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Right now they are so desperate that they will use almost anything for survival. The ISIS has been ousted from almost all the major cities, and they have been confined to some of the desert areas within Syria.
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I am sure ISIS and other torrorist organisations use Bitcoin along with many others. They sell oil too, after seizing ports and oil fields. They deal drugs ad people smuggle too. If its bad and illegal, ISIS do it all. How can they buy all those 4x4 TOyotas

Bitcoin is pseudonymous, not anonymous, so it's real to connect it to real identities. Maybe it was used before because there were no alternatives but now we have Monero.

Thats correct, if there were going to do some shady bussiness they would most prob use some more anon crypto out there. But again at leaset at some point they will have to go through bitcoin as todays infrastructure for many bussinesses are build around bitcoin, tho thats slowly changing as we see some exchnages opening slowly ETH pairs not only BTC. But the point is they could use crypto currency to hide from ordinary world...

Don't forget that fiat is used for shady bussiness as well.
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2015 and outstanding report of the group Hecker GSG that Meng claims managed to uncover account financial Isis of alerts the news CNN Indonesia, group hacker named ghost security group (GSG) successfully reveal some account financial Isis November yesterday. not surprisingly, they found in the network virtual money bitcoin. recorded one of them have a nominal USD 41,1 billion. even so, the number of which have been found turns regarded new small part because it seems to attack as 9/11, necessary funds Isis at least USD 5,4 to 6,8 billion. GSG argues, the use of currency cryptocurrency by Isis is as a form of income to fund a variety of military operations are done.
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Do you think ISIS uses Bitcoin?

If they do, it's just for fun. They have the U.S. dollar through U.S. funding to give them all they need and want in life.

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Do you think ISIS uses Bitcoin?

If they do, it's just for fun. They have the U.S. dollar through U.S. funding to give them all they need and want in life.

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ISIS is out of the way and it is defeated. We should wait for the next Jihadi group who will stand up and make the next mess up on Middle East lands. You can fight a group but you cannot fight an ideology. Why just don't the US let those pigs there kill each other if they like too, I don't understand why the US should play as the world cop ?

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It's not about thinking, there are solid proof that ISIS uses bitcoins and other cryptos to fundraise their campaign.
It would be no wonder if they come up with an ICO.

https://www.express.co.uk/finance/city/893151/Bitcoin-price-latest-news-ISIS-terror-cryptocurrency

https://securityintelligence.com/isis-are-they-using-bitcoins-to-fund-criminal-activities/
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Bitcoin gives a lot of advantages in every area of buying or selling different types of goods. But i think that if ISIS would use bitcoin that it would make them more easy to beat. They actually need something much more stable like a gold in a real world.
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Most probably they do,as its safe and anoynmous  and thats exactly what they want.
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Yes, tell me what are the reasons that restrict them from using bitcoin. They are earning money by selling their oil and buying weapons with those funds and they might be using bitcoin. However since they don't have much advanced connectivity, I don't think that the percentage is anywhere more than a percent or two.

I think they use bitcoins or alt currencies. they are far quicker than to obtain dollars and coins like monero or verge can guarantee anonimity

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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?
I don't see any reason why the terrorist should use bitcoin for  transactions. They can just use their money to buy things do things the same for same results. They can hide their identity but their location can be traced. Terrorist will not risk that. They prefer doing things the old way since it is proven that it is effective and it doesn't leave any trace. Terrorist will always find ways to get their funds. By the way,why do you ask? Peace bro.

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Bitcoin was already known every where , that's why in my opinion I think yes because the terrorists, most of them are unidentified. Bitcoin rather are one of the fastest transactions and also its safe.
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Bitcoin was already known every where , that's why in my opinion I think yes because the terrorists, most of them are unidentified. Bitcoin rather are one of the fastest transactions and also its safe.

Hmm.... There are a lot of cryptos out there (such as Monero, Zcash, Blackbytes and Deep Onion) which are more anonymous than Bitcoin. BTC transactions can be easily tracked by checking the Blockchain. And another negative is that the confirmation time has grown over the last few weeks and it sometimes takes up to 2-3 days to get the necessary confirmations.

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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?
The use of bitcoins by ISIS representatives is a well-known fact. It was also found in online discussions that ISIS used virtual currency to purchase weapons.
But we need to understand that terrorists, like any other people, use all payment instruments: cash, cards, and electronic money, including bitcoins. And approximately in the same proportions as an ordinary person does
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Of course terrorists use bitcoin, that what would do every relatively smart person or group, who knows, maybe it is they are who make this spikes of the price..
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I don't think so their groups use bitcoin, if they use Bitcoin as a weapon-buying transaction, the bitcoin will ingcres higher  possible to hit $ 100 billion

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Bitcoin and Altcoin are most likely to be used for crime, we all know that the excess Bitcoin and Altcoin are very supportive for use in crime, money laundering, even terrorists like ISIS. Excessive support is the delivery of coins or tokens in minutes, can not be prevented, in large numbers, the privacy of the sender and the recipient can not be known by anyone. Those things are very supportive used for crime. But we pray that things do not happen in large numbers, or maybe one day there will be developments in both Bitcoin and Altcoin in following up on those crimes.

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No, I don't think so. They have nothing to do with bitcoin. They are not high-tech terrorist.
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It has been well documented that in fact they raided Syria of old Christian artefacts and then were flogging them on the dark web for bitcoin. I think that they will probably have a sizeable BTC wallet !!

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ISIS uses American dollars, that's for sure. Does this mean that you need to prohibit dollars?

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Who knows?  As pointed out bitcoin is no longer truly anonymous so that would pose a disadvantage but for transferring money quickly without many of the problems with normal methods it would still be an advantage.
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for me im not sure maybe or maybe not because they only decide for their self
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Maybe. They do anything to secure fundings for their senseless terror actions.
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Of course they do - what they do is a business - they know exactly what they are doing, don't you believe otherwise.
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Yes, I think they widely use cryptocurrecies, but they can not go into the bank of america to pay the check..will, I think that they can't.. who knows..
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if the IS ever uses bitcoin, it becomes a platform for their arrest and destruction. Much as bitcoin is decentralised, certain protocols can be tapped into to discover why certain transactions were made and from where.

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There is a big possibility they are. Untraceable payments were and are done by goberments without asking anyone
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It has been well documented that in fact they raided Syria of old Christian artefacts and then were flogging them on the dark web for bitcoin. I think that they will probably have a sizeable BTC wallet !!

Do you know in which dark market the antiques were put on sale? This is the first time I am hearing about it. If this is true, then I am sure that it was an isolated incident. Because the usual route for ISIS to sell the antiques was through smugglers in Turkey and the payment was usually made in either Turkish Lira, United States Dollar or Syrian Pound.

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I don't think ISIS has bitcoin as their source of funds. Probably they have a financial backer but bitcoin is unimaginable.

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There's a big possibility that criminals are also using bitcoins. Their identity cannot be known when using bitcoin. I think this should also be considered by the developers of bitcoin- how to trace suspicious persons. At the end of everything, we should be one with the government in not tolerating terrorists or criminals.
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We all know that the bitcoin is popoular...we cant sure the reason behind this is legalisation and regulations of the bitcoin making the bitcoin more open and this retarding the people to use bitcoin for illegal porpuse..
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?
I think they are using it I have heard a story that anonymous are hacking their bitcoin in the deepweb ,
I don't think if that's true or what but I strongly believe that they are already using it because as long as they could use it as a payment for their transaction they would use it.
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?

There's a possibility they are using bitcoin because bitcoin is convenient and easy to use even for dirty transactions. It's convenient for them because they can send a big amount of money even without being noticed by the authorities.
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?
They are technologically very advanced as compared to other such groups especially in the field of IT. They might be using it, but I think its not as beneficial to them as we consider it to be. And if they are using it, it doesn't make any difference.
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ISIS uses American dollars, that's for sure. Does this mean that you need to prohibit dollars?
I think OP was legitimately asking a question and wasn't saying that BTC should be banned if it is.
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I'm sure ISIS uses Bitcoin. Some people even the fund the organization by providing them with Bitcoin and other altcoins. Like every technology, Blockchain will be used for bad causes and also good causes.

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yes ! i think isis use bitcoin . it will be more convenient to them to use bitcoin and other terrorist groups also use bitcoin .
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Using bitcoin it's easier to save funds maybe, but for their needs it's not that convinient. They have real money and spend it for material things. But if they have different businesses like mafia then it's possible that they use bitcoin as other people do.
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?

Possibly yes. This is the easiest way for them to earn.  And who knows that the possibility that the one who created a topic here is there and also participating a
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This is funny. It's not impossible, though. Technology has taken over. So, I won't be surprised if they use Bitcoin.
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Isis is pretty much useless now. And if they use Bitcoin, I can so easily see those Bitcoins getting loss one day, due to who ever hold the private keys  getting destroyed and such, and weak points in the upper ups who don't know how it's used. They're better off using cash, no credit.
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?
Surely . It's an opportunity for criminals. There is no reason to refuse a  ''vehicle '' so well .
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Who cares we don't need them.They are terrorist's more deadly equipment's to attack and destroy they need.There main objectives is killing and destroy.
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The ISIS is all but finished in Syria/Iraq, and they have been confined to 2-3 small pockets of territory. What they will do even if they get any Bitcoins from their supporters and sympathizers?
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Why not? Bitcoin is a good thing for them and really useful for their goals. I think they do use crypto currency.
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Now that they have been more of less shut down, they are mostly in hiding. They won't be getting any more U.S. funding. So they might as well start using Bitcoin.

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we never know...but these people are smart and intelligent they can enter into any institution or company without them knowing it because they are good in disguise and they know everything as far as technology is concern they update themselves also into so that when they have target they will know what to do, bitcoin gives them the access to do so financially because they needed it... that's why to answer the question ..do ISIS use Bitcoin... well.. its possible.

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yes i do believe. there is a big possibility that ISIS use bitcoin to their hidden transactions and ISIS are also advanced in technology. so they use bitcoin to hide their identities and because they know that they can use it in many country.

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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?
Yes bitcoin is became popular and there is possibility that ISIS using bitcoin too but i don't think so. Because i think they priority to fight for the freedom of mindanao Smiley .

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Yes, I think its possible they are updated as much as we are, they can learn about it and use it, they are expert when comes to technology and other virtual system. They can do almost everything so they can do bitcoin also specially when they discover how useful, how profitable it is, they will join also.

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January 13, 2018, 02:34:13 AM
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Yes I do believe that ISIS uses bitcoin for their transaction,
After all bitcoin is their best way to make a transaction with no record because of its anonymity,
And also they are going to use it for sure because of it's popularity they would provably try it out.
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yes. May be they use bitcoin. But there is one thing they sell oil and they buy weapons, but it is very possible they use bitcoin as their purchasing tool. To cover their identity. Bitcoin is the currency that anyone dealing in drugs, weapon and human trafficking would use due to the anonymity of it.

They are technologically very advanced as compared to other such groups especially in the field of IT. They might be using it. And if they are using it, it doesn't make any deference.


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I got no doubt they do. They need to move money one way or another in order to fund their terror regime.

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Yes terrorists are using bitcoin as a mode of payment and their salary but we can't trace their transactions coz its very anonymous. We don't know who's supporting them and how many millions of money they can provide using bitcoin.
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ISIS might have $400 million in cash, and now it's about to decide to use bitcoin, which has a total market value of $8 billion, and record every transaction on the block chain. Can you give me a reasonable explanation?
The good news is that the world's oligarchs are clearly spooked by bitcoin, and the bad news is that many brain-dead and boring people may actually believe this ISIS nonsense.

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That is really possible, with the use of bitcoin it is secured way of transacting to other people like for example if they want to buy firearms they could use bitcoin as payment without knowing their identity which is advantagous to them.

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Depressing but probable..
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Who cares, we don't need this talk.
I am sure they use usd more.
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Of course Yes! they can use it also to gain there financial need for their organization that they belonging. I think they have also experts in making tradings & investing. so therefore I stongly believe that bitcoin & cryptocurrencies is one of their best option to finance their revolutionary works without identifying their real personal background.
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I think I've read an article regarding that somewhere. Something about a someone helping ISIS using bitcoin.

I mean what is stopping them to do that?
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I'm not sure. But, in this world we live in now, nothing is impossible.
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They can use everything they wanted and take advantage of it just like weapons, drugs and etc. Remember that ISIS are the bad people so don't blame bitcoin if ever they use it because people don't even blame firearms and fiat for they terror.
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Don't ISIS only exist because of the USD reserves stolen from the Iraq and Mosul Central Banks? How do people feel about using USD when that's primarily what ISIS buys it's weapons with currently?

IMHO the currency terrorists groups use is irrelevant. It's the whole initiation of force thing I'm put off by. If they even are initiating the force, I'm sure that's debatable.
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?

There is a high probability that terrorist organisations such as ISIS is using Bitcoin. But why wouldn't they, Bitcoin is anonymous they can't be tracked and can make international transactions as well.

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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?

Yes,it is possible. Because it is difficult for the government to track their illegal transactions and using bitcoin could be very well convenient for them. No taxation and identities were easy to conceal without the scope of anti-terrorism unit from the government.

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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?
I think now ISiS or any terorrist in this world with a knowledge in crypto is already use to for payment on any crime transaction like for buying guns or any deadly weapons on black market in deep or darkweb that provides an secret plan that no one knows can see this thing.
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I'm sure they do. Crypto fits perfectly in their anonymous purchases on black market and selling oil to states
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No exemptions from using bitcoin, anyone can use bitcoin. There is no limitation who will use bitcoin even those ISIS.
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January 23, 2018, 04:14:53 PM
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If I were ISIS exective member, I will order sub-ordinate to use crypt currency. Especially, anonymous currency like Z-cash, Moneo, XVG etc... If you were ISIS, dont you think same thing you would do? Tongue
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January 23, 2018, 04:40:15 PM
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?

I don't know but well maybe because how can they buy drugs without license and it is illegal to just carry or jump over in many countries , I think they used the deep web and they transact and buy some illegal stuffs and I think many terrorist doing this.
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January 23, 2018, 05:25:30 PM
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We can not deny that there is no limitation to whom person is allowed of transacting bitcoin. No one is exempted so there is possibility that bitcoin will be used by them.
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January 23, 2018, 07:00:51 PM
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Maybe, we don't know, ISIS has many connections they have connection everywhere even in the government, contact I think in the whole world. Maybe bitcointalk is the way to connect each other.
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they making  phishing site to get all our token dude

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January 23, 2018, 09:00:23 PM
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Who cares,ISIS problem is using deadly weapons to kill lives ,although they may use Bitcoin.let know your own opinion.
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January 23, 2018, 09:05:32 PM
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I don't think ISIS will have time to sign up to get a BTC address and I don't think ISIS will have time to wait for confirmation that funds has been received on in their specified BTC address. And to think that they are always on the go and their usual hiding places don't have internet connection, (jungle or desert) BTC is not a good option for them to use. Specially if they want to change it to fiat.
So true they dont have time to use bitcoin just tk buy weapons.they have their own money or maybe big people support them they are so busy to make war.or maybe their leader knows about bitcoin and use it nothing is imposible.

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January 24, 2018, 03:48:25 AM
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?


Yes, i think so. Where plenty of money is there you find them.
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January 24, 2018, 09:00:06 AM
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I don't think ISIS will have time to sign up to get a BTC address and I don't think ISIS will have time to wait for confirmation that funds has been received on in their specified BTC address. And to think that they are always on the go and their usual hiding places don't have internet connection, (jungle or desert) BTC is not a good option for them to use. Specially if they want to change it to fiat.
So true they dont have time to use bitcoin just tk buy weapons.they have their own money or maybe big people support them they are so busy to make war.or maybe their leader knows about bitcoin and use it nothing is imposible.

They tried creating their own currency by minting gold, silver and copper coins (gold came from ransom payments). But this currency never became very popular, and in the end they abandoned the plans for minting new coins and continued to use fiat currencies such as the United States Dollar, Syrian Pound, Turkish Lira and Iraqi Dinar.

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January 24, 2018, 11:50:23 AM
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I think no because they are busy fighting our millitary forces and if they used btc then btc will appear in all news channel
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January 24, 2018, 12:00:07 PM
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I don't think. I'm sure of it.
And don't let yourself be fooled that those people are a group of savages.
They are extremely organized and as such they use the latest technologies. Like bitcoin.
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February 18, 2018, 08:58:39 AM
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?

Yes it is true , bitcoin can use to various action such as , positive and negative , and I read some article that they using the what so called the TOR website where you can access different illegal website and it said that a pathway to the dark web. Where you can buy different illegal stuffs by bitcoin , without exposing yourself or your identity it's true though hackers , criminals , and terrorist.
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February 18, 2018, 10:04:58 AM
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I don't think group of ISIS uses bitcoin. But the one who supported them used bitcoin to transfer the money so that it can easily transfer and it's hard to trace. bitcoin can be used in all transaction good or bad it depends on the people or group how will they used it. Also isis also use a modern technology and lot of they're work use in computer. Isis know about bitcoin but they're force to use it because it's safest way to recieve money in the organization
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February 19, 2018, 01:08:15 PM
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Those ISIS can use anything that is valuable so  I'm sure bitcoin is one of their choices but that does not mean that it helps them more because they can do it only on the darknet to buy their weapons and the FBI is just closely watching them.
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February 19, 2018, 01:49:16 PM
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anybody can
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I don't think group of ISIS uses bitcoin. But the one who supported them used bitcoin to transfer the money so that it can easily transfer and it's hard to trace. bitcoin can be used in all transaction good or bad it depends on the people or group how will they used it. Also isis also use a modern technology and lot of they're work use in computer. Isis know about bitcoin but they're force to use it because it's safest way to recieve money in the organization.Bitcoin is pseudonymous, not anonymous, so it's real to connect it to real identities. Maybe it was used before because there were no alternatives but now we have Monero.Bitcoin gives a lot of advantages in every area of buying or selling different types of goods. But i think that if ISIS would use bitcoin that it would make them more easy to beat. They actually need something much more stable like a gold in a real world.Bitcoin and Altcoin are most likely to be used for crime, we all know that the excess Bitcoin and Altcoin are very supportive for use in crime, money laundering, even terrorists like ISIS. Excessive support is the delivery of coins or tokens in minutes, can not be prevented, in large numbers, the privacy of the sender and the recipient can not be known by anyone. Those things are very supportive used for crime. But we pray that things do not happen in large numbers, or maybe one day there will be developments in both Bitcoin and Altcoin in following up on those crimes.

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February 19, 2018, 04:47:44 PM
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LOL.
as long as there is the good old US dollar which is untraceable, anonymous, easy to obtain, use and spend literary anywhere in the world, why would anyone with malicious intents want to use bitcoin which is traceable, not anonymous, hard to obtain, use and spend?!
I dont think so that the ISIS will using Bitcoin.Maybe the people who is supported with them is the one who using Bitcoin.Anyway Bitcoin can be use for  all in transaction in good or bad things.but still depends the users of bitcoin how will they use.Some users are Anonymous and we cant say that they are ISIS or what kind of people are them.so i think it should better to use identity to be part of users in Bitcoin. Thats only my idea,i dont know to other users opinion?

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February 19, 2018, 07:42:53 PM
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I don't know but I'm not saying that they aren't as anything is possible. I hope that they aren't though I may not be quite sure about that.

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February 20, 2018, 02:28:49 AM
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Maybe, we don't know if they are using bitcoin. Bit i'm sure they use bitcoin also or the person who support them is the bitcoin user to support them in their daily needs.
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February 20, 2018, 02:30:49 AM
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It seems that ISIS is more likely to use USD/EUR/JPY/RMB for any of their activities.
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It seems that ISIS is more likely to use USD/EUR/JPY/RMB for any of their activities.

From what I have heard, the ISIS is using bullion (especially gold) and hard cash (Syrian Pound, Turkish Lira, Iraqi Dinar, and some amount of United States Dollar and Euro). It is not very convenient for them to use Bitcoins. Because in the neighboring countries, there are no major Bitcoin exchanges.

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I think yes they are probably taking advantage of brainwashing through btcs and tax free and risk free trade
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I'd say yes probably, as a group yelding billions of $ , they probably have diverses assets. Why wouldn't bitcoin be one of them ?



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March 14, 2018, 12:23:34 AM
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We all know that Bitcoin is also popular to criminals because they can use it without exposing their identity. It will be more convenient to them to use Bitcoin so that they can hide their identity. Do you think that terrorist groups like ISIS use it for their transactions?
Yes its possible for them to use bitcoin , bitcoin is popular in the world wide web , and ISIS is using the high technology that they can get. Its possible that members of this terrorist group are into bitcoin and investing in bitcoin. And i think they members of this terrorist group are earning lots of money in cryptocurrency.

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March 14, 2018, 04:05:18 AM
 #312

I don't know particularly of ISIS gang but yes 90% of world terrorist organisation are involved with this digital world
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March 17, 2018, 12:50:15 AM
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Heaven knows what's happening as their is no tracks of them till now because its a dark net where tracking possibility is about zero
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March 18, 2018, 04:59:40 PM
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Yes ofcourse they do because btcs are the greatest market for trade of criminals in global dark areas
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March 19, 2018, 01:01:27 AM
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I think yes because they get benefits of zero tax and judiciary safety while trading illegal weapon and drugs
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March 19, 2018, 03:21:27 AM
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I don't think group of ISIS uses bitcoin. But the one who supported them used bitcoin to transfer the money so that it can easily transfer and it's hard to trace. bitcoin can be used in all transaction good or bad it depends on the people or group how will they used it. Also isis also use a modern technology and lot of they're work use in computer. Isis know about bitcoin but they're force to use it because it's safest way to recieve money in the organization
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