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June 03, 2017, 06:22:03 PM
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Sometimes when I withdraw BTC to my wallet, I set really low fees like 50-70 satoshi per byte and wait for weeks, because I'm not going to spend those coins in the near future anyway. I think it's a good way to save a bit of money, because if you look back, you might realize that your fees have added up to a big amount in USD value, while it wasn't always necessary to get those coins confirmed asap.
So, do you use low fees, or always want to get confirmation in a next few blocks?

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June 03, 2017, 06:25:11 PM
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Last time I used normal fees was quite long ago. In the last few months, I always use fees hefty enough for next block confirmation, mainly because when I spend Bitcoins, I spend them to buy something and next block confirmation are always welcome in these cases.
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June 03, 2017, 06:25:51 PM
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i go for middling fees. i'm not convinced fees that low will ever confirm with things the way there are these days. if i'm buying something then i go for relatively high because i don't want to be waiting around.
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June 03, 2017, 06:32:08 PM
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Sometimes when I withdraw BTC to my wallet, I set really low fees like 50-70 satoshi per byte and wait for weeks, because I'm not going to spend those coins in the near future anyway. I think it's a good way to save a bit of money, because if you look back, you might realize that your fees have added up to a big amount in USD value, while it wasn't always necessary to get those coins confirmed asap.
So, do you use low fees, or always want to get confirmation in a next few blocks?
Isn't 50-70 sat per byte extremely low fees? They are going to take ages to confirm. I usually pay up high fees when doing any kind of transactions, don't feel like waiting. I once had an transaction with 296.011 sat per byte. It took almost 4 days to confirm. How long does it take to confirm with 50 sat/b fee?

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June 03, 2017, 06:35:42 PM
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Look at this.
I sent an exchange some bitcoins with an extremely low amount of fees (60 sat/byte) and left it like that for days.
I thought it eventually is going to return back to me. But surprisingly just a few minutes ago it started getting confirmations.
This is actually just 3 days from sending it.

I haven't used viabtc or anything similar.
Weird and interesting.

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June 03, 2017, 06:39:13 PM
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I always use 30 satoshi per byte and i'm letting Jihan BU to pay the rest on my behalf.   Viabtc's free service does the job very well. Cool

Paying >200satoshi/byte started to hurt me very badly. I have to move my coins from one address to another from time to time because those small incomes which i collect from here and there create many inputs in time and i don't want to look at a 100$ fee in some day.

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June 03, 2017, 06:47:01 PM
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Sometimes when I withdraw BTC to my wallet, I set really low fees like 50-70 satoshi per byte and wait for weeks, because I'm not going to spend those coins in the near future anyway. I think it's a good way to save a bit of money, because if you look back, you might realize that your fees have added up to a big amount in USD value, while it wasn't always necessary to get those coins confirmed asap.
So, do you use low fees, or always want to get confirmation in a next few blocks?

I used medium fees but lately it's now decent high, 100,000-150,000 satoshis is too much for a fees. That is $2 on USD value. To minimize the cost, I always transfer in bulk. But Im considering using low fees now but not to wait for 2 or 3 weeks. Id rather pay for 1 to 2 days than weeks eventhough Im not using my bitcoin.

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June 03, 2017, 06:56:57 PM
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Sometimes when I withdraw BTC to my wallet, I set really low fees like 50-70 satoshi per byte and wait for weeks, because I'm not going to spend those coins in the near future anyway. I think it's a good way to save a bit of money, because if you look back, you might realize that your fees have added up to a big amount in USD value, while it wasn't always necessary to get those coins confirmed asap.
So, do you use low fees, or always want to get confirmation in a next few blocks?
Isn't 50-70 sat per byte extremely low fees? They are going to take ages to confirm. I usually pay up high fees when doing any kind of transactions, don't feel like waiting. I once had an transaction with 296.011 sat per byte. It took almost 4 days to confirm. How long does it take to confirm with 50 sat/b fee?

My 65 sat/byte (also, it had 2.2 kB size) took 2 weeks to confirm and it arrived today.

I always use 30 satoshi per byte and i'm letting Jihan BU to pay the rest on my behalf.   Viabtc's free service does the job very well. Cool

Paying >200satoshi/byte started to hurt me very badly. I have to move my coins from one address to another from time to time because those small incomes which i collect from here and there create many inputs in time and i don't want to look at a 100$ fee in some day.

That's exactly my thoughts, today's 2 mBTC might be "only" $5 (which is already too much for transactions under $500), but if Bitcoin will cost $20 000 in 10-15 years, at that point the amount of fees paid by average Bitcoin user can easily be worth a few thousands USD or more.

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June 03, 2017, 07:01:47 PM
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Am currently using exchanges as my wallet. It pretty much does the job for me. The fee as far as know isn't that a big deal. People adviced me against using exchange, I have no choice unfortunately.
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June 03, 2017, 07:06:03 PM
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Not anymore. Since there is a huge problem with low fees transactions I take care about the fee I'm paying for my transactions and I'm using wallet where I can control the fees and where the proper fees are already suggested. This is more secure and less chances that I will end up with unconfirmed transaction.

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June 03, 2017, 07:48:58 PM
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I think Electrum wallet will let you adjust the fees so that the transaction can be pick up faster. I haven't try it at all because I just got my first payment from a signature campaign. But if ever I want to transfer my funds then I guess I have to used the 400 sat/byte recommendation fees to make my transaction quick if I'm in a hurry.

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June 03, 2017, 07:52:58 PM
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I only use high fees whenever i want to purchase something, if i want to just move my coins to another wallet then i use low fees. i won't be selling/spending the coins i send, so it doesn't matters if takes a week to confirm.
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June 03, 2017, 08:32:05 PM
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I dont mind paying 0.001-0.002 BTC fee when i need fast transaction,
 
lets look at ti this way: both buying real or virtual stuff and paying fees for transactions is supporting bitcoin economy.
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June 03, 2017, 08:43:16 PM
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Am currently using exchanges as my wallet. It pretty much does the job for me. The fee as far as know isn't that a big deal. People adviced me against using exchange, I have no choice unfortunately.

Some exchanges, particularly XAPO, started fee for outgoing transactions recently but their charges are quite high compared to other places. So if you can avoid these high charge exchanges. I use both blockchain and earlier was using XAPO but not very less transaction in XAPO. But most of the time I pay a high fee because I don't like waiting for long time to get transactions confirmed.
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June 03, 2017, 08:53:13 PM
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Last time I used normal fees was quite long ago. In the last few months, I always use fees hefty enough for next block confirmation, mainly because when I spend Bitcoins, I spend them to buy something and next block confirmation are always welcome in these cases.
Same here.  I've bought a few things in the past couple of months that I'd rather not have waited weeks to receive.  So no, I don't skimp on the fees usually.  And honestly I try not to spend bitcoin if I can use cash.  I'd rather give up the fiat, because I know it's not going to rise in value like bitcoin might.  Makes sense, right?  And who wants to pay $5-10 or more to spend money?  I sure as hell don't.
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June 03, 2017, 09:04:16 PM
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I always use 30 satoshi per byte and i'm letting Jihan BU to pay the rest on my behalf.   Viabtc's free service does the job very well. Cool
Hilarious stuff.  Jihan Wu doesn't lead ViaBTC.  For all we know he could be mining there, but I've seen no evidence of this.  I hope you feel good abusing a free service for your own greed.
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Paying >200satoshi/byte started to hurt me very badly. I have to move my coins from one address to another from time to time because those small incomes which i collect from here and there create many inputs in time and i don't want to look at a 100$ fee in some day.
Solution:  wait for ~3 weeks until you have BTC0.1 or so, then transfer to a new address.  Alternatively, just deal with the inputs - with current necessary fees it's not going to add more than ~0.0004 to your fees.  If you claim that you can't pay this with the income you receive, you're lying.

IMO the best thing to do is to use the lowest fee on the recommended fees page which is estimated to be confirmed within 6 hours or so.  This way you avoid pushing up the fees for other people by perpetuating the fee market unless you have a high-priority transaction.

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June 03, 2017, 09:11:06 PM
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No. I use https://bitcoinfees.21.co to look at the recommended minimum fee, and add an additional 10% to make my transaction look a bit more interesting financially. I have sent out 2 transactions today, and in both cases I added around $4 in fees, which makes it a total of $8 only to send coins from point A to B. Is it a considerable amount? Sure it is, but I don't like waiting -- time is money.
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I always use 30 satoshi per byte and i'm letting Jihan BU to pay the rest on my behalf.   Viabtc's free service does the job very well. Cool

Paying >200satoshi/byte started to hurt me very badly. I have to move my coins from one address to another from time to time because those small incomes which i collect from here and there create many inputs in time and i don't want to look at a 100$ fee in some day.

You can send the coins back to the same address, no need to use another. If you won't use the funds, just send them back to your address with a small fee, and when you need faster confirmation, the fee won't be as expensive because of just 1 input
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June 03, 2017, 09:23:12 PM
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I even used to think like that if i am not in a hurry,but then some my transactions with low fees got rejected and so i stopped doing transactions with very low fees and even i am starting to go over the bridge and start putting higher fees even though i am not in a hurry just to get those coins transferred.
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June 03, 2017, 09:26:46 PM
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Yes, i use low fees ... but only from Bitcoin Core.
Not from Hot wallet (SPV Android Wallet).

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1868604.0
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June 03, 2017, 09:34:44 PM
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Sometimes when I withdraw BTC to my wallet, I set really low fees like 50-70 satoshi per byte and wait for weeks, because I'm not going to spend those coins in the near future anyway. I think it's a good way to save a bit of money, because if you look back, you might realize that your fees have added up to a big amount in USD value, while it wasn't always necessary to get those coins confirmed asap.
So, do you use low fees, or always want to get confirmation in a next few blocks?

You seem to have a very low fee for your transaction. So you surely need to wait for a longer time for it before the miners will confirm it but if you are lucky they can include your transaction, it all depends to them. Well I'm using the recommended fees by blockchain.info so mostly it is ranging first at 0.0002 - 0.0007 BTC now.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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June 03, 2017, 09:54:50 PM
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i go for middling fees. i'm not convinced fees that low will ever confirm with things the way there are these days. if i'm buying something then i go for relatively high because i don't want to be waiting around.
I ma using such an exchange where the fee is fixed and if you are going to do any transaction you must have to pay the fee in any case, there you do not have any option to pay fee according to your own wishes.
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June 03, 2017, 09:59:01 PM
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At a low cost I do so because with the value of coins that we have it can save expenses but to confirm it will not be fast with such low cost so it is very different if we spend a higher cost.

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June 03, 2017, 10:08:26 PM
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Sometimes when I withdraw BTC to my wallet, I set really low fees like 50-70 satoshi per byte and wait for weeks, because I'm not going to spend those coins in the near future anyway. I think it's a good way to save a bit of money, because if you look back, you might realize that your fees have added up to a big amount in USD value, while it wasn't always necessary to get those coins confirmed asap.
So, do you use low fees, or always want to get confirmation in a next few blocks?
You're the most patient person and you did a great job man, when i discovered my old transaction i found out that the fee that we spent it was too high due to recently price so i guess it is a good idea to lowering our fee if we're not in a hurry in order to save those coins for future purpose. Personally I'm not lowering my fee i just convert my bitcoin to altcoins such a doge or litecoin to avoid the fee, if i should send bitcoin directly i increase the fee sometimes we need something fast even though it's expensive.
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Sometimes when I withdraw BTC to my wallet, I set really low fees like 50-70 satoshi per byte and wait for weeks, because I'm not going to spend those coins in the near future anyway. I think it's a good way to save a bit of money, because if you look back, you might realize that your fees have added up to a big amount in USD value, while it wasn't always necessary to get those coins confirmed asap.
So, do you use low fees, or always want to get confirmation in a next few blocks?
Hell, I wish I was able to use low fees like that and actually be confident in the ability for the blockchain to process my transaction, but I always have it at least a bit higher than that so that I can sleep knowing that my transaction would have gone through at some point within the next few hours. I don't care about being included in the very next block, but I would prefer it if I had some timely results.
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My bitcoin wallet is XAPO, so I don't have control to set up my own fees. When i sent a transactions xapo make me to choice: Using High priority fee or standard fee.
By the way, It's too high, The current standard fee is : 0.00184505 btc and high priority is 0.00325587  btc.

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Low RBF first then if confirmation time looks too long replace it.
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I'm using mycelium wallet and always using normal fee when doing transaction before but now that the price became so high. I often used low-prio that only cost like $2. Normal fee is too much for me it cost almost $4 the last time i made a transaction.
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Few hours ago i need  to exchange my bitcoins to fiat money.First i send with low fee(3000 satoshi for byte).Now it got stucked in blockchain. I am going to make second other transaction which will be CPFP (child pays for parent) method.This time i will send bitcoins with 30000 satoshis per byte for transaction Undecided

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Sometimes when I withdraw BTC to my wallet, I set really low fees like 50-70 satoshi per byte and wait for weeks, because I'm not going to spend those coins in the near future anyway. I think it's a good way to save a bit of money, because if you look back, you might realize that your fees have added up to a big amount in USD value, while it wasn't always necessary to get those coins confirmed asap.
So, do you use low fees, or always want to get confirmation in a next few blocks?

I think it depends on how the people will be using those bitcoins. If you are Campaign Manager and making a payment for your campaign, it is better if you follow the fee that will make your payment send faster, maybe .001 to .003. If that is just for yourself, just to transafer some coins, How you want to pay it, depends on you, but don't rant if you will be receiving it months to weeks.

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Few hours ago i need  to exchange my bitcoins to fiat money.First i send with low fee(3000 satoshi for byte).Now it got stucked in blockchain. I am going to make second other transaction which will be CPFP (child pays for parent) method.This time i will send bitcoins with 30000 satoshis per byte for transaction Undecided

I'm pretty sure you mean 3k satoshi/kb, as 3k satoshis for every byte is hardly considered a low fee. Your CPFP attempt probably won't work that well as 30k satoshis/kb is still quite low and you'd need another CPFP payment if you expect it to go through. Currently, the recommened fee according to bitcoinfees.21.co is around 90k satoshis/kb, which is triple your new transaction (which you expect to pay for 2 transactions).

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Sometimes when I withdraw BTC to my wallet, I set really low fees like 50-70 satoshi per byte and wait for weeks, because I'm not going to spend those coins in the near future anyway. I think it's a good way to save a bit of money, because if you look back, you might realize that your fees have added up to a big amount in USD value, while it wasn't always necessary to get those coins confirmed asap.
So, do you use low fees, or always want to get confirmation in a next few blocks?
Depending on the situation because there are transactions which do really need it to confirm fast specially on my important transactions which i do need to set medium-high fees but there are times i do really set low fees and same as yours i dont mind if it would confirm long because those bitcoins are solely for saving for future as long im sure it wont be cancelled then it should be fine. Fees now are really horrible when you do really like to fasten it up.

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Honestly,I'm not using low fees because I need money in that time when I withdraw on it or I need used it for a very short time when I deposit on it. So it depends on the situation when you are using low fees or normal fees on the transaction you made.

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June 04, 2017, 02:07:26 AM
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Sometimes when I withdraw BTC to my wallet, I set really low fees like 50-70 satoshi per byte and wait for weeks, because I'm not going to spend those coins in the near future anyway. I think it's a good way to save a bit of money, because if you look back, you might realize that your fees have added up to a big amount in USD value, while it wasn't always necessary to get those coins confirmed asap.
So, do you use low fees, or always want to get confirmation in a next few blocks?

Like you, I used to pay nothing or "free" when sending btc, i dont send low amount of btc which really need to pay transaction fee when doing low amount transactions. And sometimes i used to convert it first at fiat then send it to other people as payment. I prefer to wait than pay large amount of btc as transaction fee, i feel that im wasting my money on that, but sometimes if im in a rush, i only think about it as tax on my income.
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Honestly,I'm not using low fees because I need money in that time when I withdraw on it or I need used it for a very short time when I deposit on it. So it depends on the situation when you are using low fees or normal fees on the transaction you made.
Same as me I use medium fee so i will recieve it not fast but i will not wait for a week before it will confirm. The OP suggestions is good just to stock some  btc in your wallet before you will use it so your not in a rush when the time you need it.

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If I'm sending coins to my own wallet this would make sense. Who cares how long it would take to confirm, as long as it's at some point. The issue is when people try to mix coins or they're sending money to someone else they don't pay enough and it really screws things up.
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If I'm sending coins to my own wallet this would make sense. Who cares how long it would take to confirm, as long as it's at some point. The issue is when people try to mix coins or they're sending money to someone else they don't pay enough and it really screws things up.
Most of the users are using low fee for sending fund, we do not like to pay for higher fee because we know that there is a traffic in the blockchain even low fees or higher fees it depends on the wallet you are using.
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I really depends on how badly I need that Bitcoin. If it can wait then I'll for the lower fees but if I need it really then I'll go for the higher fees. The thing is if you use high fees you should take advantage of it not by sending small amounts but large ones. Think of how much money you need to send overall so you will not be repeating sending again if you can just send it in one go. The unconfirmed transactions in the blockchain is declining and I hope this will continue and Bitcoin to come back from what it was.

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If I'm sending coins to my own wallet this would make sense. Who cares how long it would take to confirm, as long as it's at some point. The issue is when people try to mix coins or they're sending money to someone else they don't pay enough and it really screws things up.
Most of the users are using low fee for sending fund, we do not like to pay for higher fee because we know that there is a traffic in the blockchain even low fees or higher fees it depends on the wallet you are using.
That's bullshit and you're really wrong. The type of wallet doesn't AFFECT the speed of a transaction. It's all the fee which always be the factor of how fast a transaction could be confirmed. Rest assured, when you're using low fee and far below the current recommendation, it doesn't matter whether your wallet is premium or platinum, your transaction will have a big possibilities to be rejected by the network.

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June 04, 2017, 03:41:25 AM
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Sometimes when I withdraw BTC to my wallet, I set really low fees like 50-70 satoshi per byte and wait for weeks, because I'm not going to spend those coins in the near future anyway. I think it's a good way to save a bit of money, because if you look back, you might realize that your fees have added up to a big amount in USD value, while it wasn't always necessary to get those coins confirmed asap.
So, do you use low fees, or always want to get confirmation in a next few blocks?
Most of the time to those community who use low fees the confirmation is always delayed before
it transfer to the wallet, Where we want to put in. So In my part I'm not using low fees because my experience was it takes 3 days before it confirms.
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you need to do some analyzing on the mempool sometimes. i have had some 100 satoshi/byte fee transactions in the past few days which have been confirmed in less than 5 minutes!
as i have said multiple times, the big number you see in the mempool (60K, 90K) are mostly spam attack not real transactions which means most of them have pretty low fees.

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June 04, 2017, 04:39:59 AM
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Three months ago, I only need 50 satoshi/kb for make make transactions and it confirm very fast! But now, I need spend 250 sat/kb if I want my transaction confirm fast and this is a big fee for me because the price Bitcoin now very hight
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Three months ago, I only need 50 satoshi/kb for make make transactions and it confirm very fast! But now, I need spend 250 sat/kb if I want my transaction confirm fast and this is a big fee for me because the price Bitcoin now very hight

Of course the transaction fees will get higher because the demand of bitcoin is getting higher every year, that is why obviously the miners will make the transaction fees high so that they will also get some profits. Most of us says it is not fair, how come? we are all getting benefited by bitcoin here in this crypto world, and if you don't want to be bother by this transaction fee, then simply just don't pay it and don't expect to receive your bitcoin, or wait for a longer time to receive your bitcoins.

The only problem here is those people who are earning bitcoin through faucets and acting like almighty about this thing, then just simply change your way on how to earn bitcoin, problem solved.
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June 04, 2017, 05:07:13 AM
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several month ago with only 70 satoshi/kb my transactions was confirmed only few hours but today is different that we have to set the higher fees to reach fast confirmations and today i decide to added more fees at least to 280 satoshi/kb because it necessary to get fast confirmations
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June 04, 2017, 05:20:40 AM
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i almost never use the recommended fee, too expensive, unless i have to send an important transaction, that i need the confirmation to happen fast without delay

but usually i choose 50% of the needed fee, i find it a good comprise and it's often confirmed relatively quickly, it appear also that some pool are confirming low fee transaction, check the mining forum...
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June 04, 2017, 06:26:33 AM
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Here in the Philippines, we have no big problem in transferring Bitcoin except if we use maybe Blockchain or Coinbase wallets. We have our coins.ph and similar sites and they are doing good job but coins.ph now is starting to charge us service fee and we are given three choices and I just usually choose the slow one which is actually not really so slow...we are not complaining on speed but we are somewhat shocked of the fee because in the past this is shouldered by coins.ph itself but not anymore.
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June 04, 2017, 06:30:58 AM
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several month ago with only 70 satoshi/kb my transactions was confirmed only few hours but today is different that we have to set the higher fees to reach fast confirmations and today i decide to added more fees at least to 280 satoshi/kb because it necessary to get fast confirmations

Two days back, my transactions also got confirmed very quickly, although I paid a fee far lower than what was suggested by bitcoinfees.21.co. If I remember it correctly, I paid around 100 Sat/byte. The online calculator was suggesting somewhere around 260 Sat/byte.

That said, it is now getting very difficult to do small-value transactions. I paid BTC0.0002 fee for transferring BTC0.001 from one of my wallets. That corresponds to close to 20% fee.
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June 04, 2017, 06:33:30 AM
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Three months ago, I only need 50 satoshi/kb for make make transactions and it confirm very fast! But now, I need spend 250 sat/kb if I want my transaction confirm fast and this is a big fee for me because the price Bitcoin now very hight

Yes, you should be careful in selecting the transcation fee as a too low fee will make your confirmation waiting for months and its no use.
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June 04, 2017, 06:34:09 AM
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I too use the lowest fees when I transfer or withdraw BTC to my wallet and the funny thing is that it doesn't really take that long to reflect in my wallet. And that's what I usually use too especially when I'm taking out my capital in trading and returning the funds back to my wallet.
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June 04, 2017, 06:40:10 AM
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Yes, I always have used low fees so far. But that is because of Multibit wallet, who sets the fees automatically and as I have set the fee slider towards the lower side of it. But now I think I would get Electrum and use manual fee per transaction, so I can set low fees for transactions when the time won't matter much, and relatively higher fees for when its an urgent transfer.
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June 04, 2017, 06:44:53 AM
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Sometimes when I withdraw BTC to my wallet, I set really low fees like 50-70 satoshi per byte and wait for weeks, because I'm not going to spend those coins in the near future anyway. I think it's a good way to save a bit of money, because if you look back, you might realize that your fees have added up to a big amount in USD value, while it wasn't always necessary to get those coins confirmed asap.
So, do you use low fees, or always want to get confirmation in a next few blocks?

Your reason for using low fee is valid and even me would do same thing if I am in your position since it will still amount to the same thing in my wallet when it arrives whether the price of bitcoin increases or decreases but for someone who is ready to pay for sale, I am not sure that argument will stand for whatever reason before confirmations means money exchanging hands which cannot wait for weeks especially in case of emergency.
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Even though it's not urgent, i always set my transaction fee according to the recommended one on my wallet. Sometimes i lower it a little bit but it's always more than 100 satoshi/byte.

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June 04, 2017, 06:55:44 AM
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I used to use low fee based on the confirmation I expect. At times when I need to make a selling used to provide the higher transaction fee, as the price volatility is high and at any time the price variation might drop. Hope it's good to go with the transaction fee suggested by the wallet service to have a timely confirmation.

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June 04, 2017, 07:26:14 AM
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LOL. Using low fees will make transaction never reach the receivers. I expect that there must be a way to fix this problem but up to now, I have not seen anything come from the developer or the miner. Hope that they will soon improve this isse

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June 04, 2017, 07:30:41 AM
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Always using the default fee even if it seems low. I'm in no rush usually, and when the network was spammed by miners transactions were slow and regardless of the amount of fees you paid transactions were still getting stuck for a few days. That was one time when I was OK with paying larger fees but it didn't help in any way so I see no point.
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you need to do some analyzing on the mempool sometimes. i have had some 100 satoshi/byte fee transactions in the past few days which have been confirmed in less than 5 minutes!
as i have said multiple times, the big number you see in the mempool (60K, 90K) are mostly spam attack not real transactions which means most of them have pretty low fees.
I have been checking the fees here : https://btc.com/stats/unconfirmed-tx and then I send accordingly my fees. Usually its around 200 and 300 but its lower and higher too. And guys if you ever miss the proper fees you can use btc.com push tx service to get a very fast confirmation ( they show as usually 7-8 mins )

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June 04, 2017, 10:57:01 AM
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As much as I want to save money buy using low fee the waiting game sucks so I don't have the choice but to use high fees especially when I need the money right away.
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June 04, 2017, 11:00:51 AM
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I always use enough fees to get confirmation on my transaction by next block. There is no point on waiting for weeks with panic to get confirmation so that you can use those bitcoin. If you really want to save on fees and want to make micro transactions than you should use other alts, fees on bitcoin is really high these days.  Wink

 
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June 04, 2017, 11:08:24 AM
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I began to use Hashnest wallet few weeks ago and I pay 0,00002 BTC for the transaction and it is kinda fixed fee there, but the transaction provided during an hour. I am satisfied with that speed and I ready to pay this fee for the fast speed of the transaction. You see, if you pay a super low fee, but wait a week the price for bitcoin may drop so deep that it will not be profitable for you at all.
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June 04, 2017, 11:31:48 AM
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It is so disgusting to use low fee at the moment because of too much volume of transactions every seconds.
I have pending money now but then the senders put low fees now I am waiting more than a week. This is first time in my bitcoin life Cheesy
I guess if you want money assurance from other senders better put fair fees so that it is not hussle in receiver's part. It is so hard to wait for so long.
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June 04, 2017, 11:32:49 AM
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I use high fee on coinbase.when I send bitcoin coinbase to coinbase it cost low fee but when I send it on other wallet it cost high fee.some days ago I am trying to send some dollar coinbase to directbet but it cost 50k satoshi something.on coinbase there is no fee selection option.

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June 04, 2017, 11:38:52 AM
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Yes, I use the lowest possible fee I can pay that can get my tx confirm within the next 3 blocks since I'm not always in a rush. However generally, I don't pay low fees, but the current state of tx forces me to do the lowest fee possible so as to save $ for a single tx.

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June 04, 2017, 11:40:19 AM
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I never tried below normal transaction fee. Maybe im afraid my funds to be stuck and pending in many days. Also i only transfer funds when i really need the fund. And for that i have to put normal to priority miner fee to make it faster and avoid inconvenience. That's a good move tho. But i rather don't transfer the funds than wait for that long.
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June 04, 2017, 11:43:49 AM
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I always use 30 satoshi per byte and i'm letting Jihan BU to pay the rest on my behalf.   Viabtc's free service does the job very well. Cool

Paying >200satoshi/byte started to hurt me very badly. I have to move my coins from one address to another from time to time because those small incomes which i collect from here and there create many inputs in time and i don't want to look at a 100$ fee in some day.

I must admit they are brilliant services that I use when I've sent with low fees by mistake.

They are high but I've never seen a future with bitcoin and the need for super fast confirms where the odd high fee really matters.

Plenty of alts do that job much better.
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June 04, 2017, 11:46:32 AM
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if I am using low fees I have to wait long time like low payments otherwise receiver will get panic and loose clients so have to use fair fees for now a days no other option for keeping customer happy you have to pay high fees
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June 04, 2017, 11:50:08 AM
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I never tried below normal transaction fee. Maybe im afraid my funds to be stuck and pending in many days. Also i only transfer funds when i really need the fund. And for that i have to put normal to priority miner fee to make it faster and avoid inconvenience. That's a good move tho.

Normal fees means default fees right. That would set as by default and nowadays default fees has been increased to 0.0007 to 0.00092 btc for a transaction in blockchain.info and coinbase. If you wish to have a low fees for a transaction. you can use the the multibit or bitcoincore to have a fees as 0.0001 or little. Confirmation time would little longer than the above mentioned one.
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June 04, 2017, 11:56:44 AM
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Sometimes when I withdraw BTC to my wallet, I set really low fees like 50-70 satoshi per byte and wait for weeks, because I'm not going to spend those coins in the near future anyway. I think it's a good way to save a bit of money, because if you look back, you might realize that your fees have added up to a big amount in USD value, while it wasn't always necessary to get those coins confirmed asap.
So, do you use low fees, or always want to get confirmation in a next few blocks?

I will never use low-cost transactions, that will cause a lot of trouble, you may have to wait a long time, that for me is a discomfort. I always spend at least 0.001 btc per transaction.
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June 04, 2017, 12:12:24 PM
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I never tried below normal transaction fee. Maybe im afraid my funds to be stuck and pending in many days. Also i only transfer funds when i really need the fund. And for that i have to put normal to priority miner fee to make it faster and avoid inconvenience. That's a good move tho.

Normal fees means default fees right. That would set as by default and nowadays default fees has been increased to 0.0007 to 0.00092 btc for a transaction in blockchain.info and coinbase. If you wish to have a low fees for a transaction. you can use the the multibit or bitcoincore to have a fees as 0.0001 or little. Confirmation time would little longer than the above mentioned one.

We can set our desired fee when using blockchain wallet too but frankly if we used low fees, below 100 sat/B, there's a chance for our transaction to get confirmed after several days. It's better to use medium or higher fee if we are in a hurry.

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June 04, 2017, 12:37:06 PM
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you need to do some analyzing on the mempool sometimes. i have had some 100 satoshi/byte fee transactions in the past few days which have been confirmed in less than 5 minutes!
as i have said multiple times, the big number you see in the mempool (60K, 90K) are mostly spam attack not real transactions which means most of them have pretty low fees.
I'm not very good at doing the mempool analysis. I do not really understand that. Is it no tutorial to understand that analysis. Because I'm so fed up with the very long transaction time. When I've used a fairly large fee
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June 04, 2017, 01:04:08 PM
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We can set our desired fee when using blockchain wallet too but frankly if we used low fees, below 100 sat/B, there's a chance for our transaction to get confirmed after several days. It's better to use medium or higher fee if we are in a hurry.

The number of unconfirmed transactions is now standing at less than 50,000 and it is going to decline even further. Perhaps now it is a golden chance to start a few low-fee transactions. Yesterday, I tried a low-free transaction where I paid around 120 Sat/B, and it got confirmed in less than 24 hours.

https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions
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June 04, 2017, 01:06:51 PM
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Sometimes when I withdraw BTC to my wallet, I set really low fees like 50-70 satoshi per byte and wait for weeks, because I'm not going to spend those coins in the near future anyway. I think it's a good way to save a bit of money, because if you look back, you might realize that your fees have added up to a big amount in USD value, while it wasn't always necessary to get those coins confirmed asap.
So, do you use low fees, or always want to get confirmation in a next few blocks?

I always need the money I earned through bitcoin so I always have to use low fees.  But like what you said I realized that those small amount of bitcoins sooner if you would add all of it, it will sum to a valued amount.  So since then, I make sure to make it big and then make a huge withdrawal so the fee is all worth it.
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June 04, 2017, 01:10:49 PM
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I am not that much into sending transactions beside the occasional deposits to my exchange.

I am just sticking to the recommended fees as per the example of 21.co. In most cases they confirm within 2 blocks, but some times they take 4 or 5 blocks to finally confirm.

If I need to have my deposits confirm quickly, I just include a bonus $1 in fees. It's obviously not an ideal situation, but we have to deal with it, whether we like it or not ~ complaining is pointless.

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June 04, 2017, 01:38:55 PM
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I too use the lowest fees when I transfer or withdraw BTC to my wallet and the funny thing is that it doesn't really take that long to reflect in my wallet. And that's what I usually use too especially when I'm taking out my capital in trading and returning the funds back to my wallet.

well, it is now the closest thing makes people restless or confused is confirmation that occurs in the bitcoin. Where sometimes there is someone who uses a standard cost above the fee suffered a long delivery, but there is also a transaction with a small standard fee or get a faster confirmation. But for me, if indeed I do onsite will be much better I budge by giving a big fee. Because if it does so then I can lose a lot of great opportunities
 
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June 04, 2017, 01:45:24 PM
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I am using Blockchain wallet, the wallet dont allow the users to custom the fee's amount, however it propose some medium amount as fee, but it guarantee that the transaction get confirmed soon.
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June 04, 2017, 02:03:40 PM
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sometime yes, when i am not in hurry to sell my coins. i send from blockchain and not use their recommended fee and wait for it to get confirmation itself. but sometime my transaction back to my wallet and i must send my coins again

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June 04, 2017, 02:24:31 PM
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Last time i used a low fee. I ended up getting my transactions back to my wallet not once but thrice. I only payed 10k sat as a transaction fee and it was unconfirmed for about 3days each transactions which drives me fvcking crazy
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I am using Blockchain wallet, the wallet dont allow the users to custom the fee's amount, however it propose some medium amount as fee, but it guarantee that the transaction get confirmed soon.
You should get a wallet which allows you to set fee you want. If you are not in a hurry you should set minimum fee, because you never know, we are potentially spending hundreds of dollars (if BTC price go to the sky) for each transation... Keep that in mind!

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I am giving normal than the usual fee, or just as lesser high than the normal for example if the fee are 0.01 btc I would just give a 0.011 btc instead this is to ensure that it will be confirm to the blockchain and sometime I am using wallet that are zero transaction  or would prefer a wallet that have zero fee if the transaction is on the same wallet, just like what I am using right now, well if I had a transaction with someone I prefer to let him make a same wallet as mine to do the transaction, but if it is to the Blockchain I always want a fast transaction that is why I give not that much bigger fees to fasten the transaction because I am surely using that coins to make a trade wuth other coins as well.
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June 04, 2017, 03:23:19 PM
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We can set our desired fee when using blockchain wallet too but frankly if we used low fees, below 100 sat/B, there's a chance for our transaction to get confirmed after several days. It's better to use medium or higher fee if we are in a hurry.

The number of unconfirmed transactions is now standing at less than 50,000 and it is going to decline even further. Perhaps now it is a golden chance to start a few low-fee transactions. Yesterday, I tried a low-free transaction where I paid around 120 Sat/B, and it got confirmed in less than 24 hours.

https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions

There is a pretty damn stupid reason why the unconfirmed number was decreasing..
Believe it or not is because of the increase in mining power.

We were getting a block every 8 minutes and the capacity of the chain was increased by nearly 20%.
But the dif adjustment just kicked in and the number will go up again.



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June 04, 2017, 03:29:10 PM
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At times I find myself paying high fees because I need my bitcoin transaction confirmed in the fastest possible time
atm am paying fees in the ranges of 40-60k satoshis which is high enough imo hope it maintains this range for the time being.

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June 04, 2017, 03:31:21 PM
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At times I find myself paying high fees because I need my bitcoin transaction confirmed in the fastest possible time
atm am paying fees in the ranges of 40-60k satoshis which is high enough imo hope it maintains this range for the time being.
If value of bitcoin are continuous increasing i think that range will increase also. For me i do not try the higher fee because i am not in hurry to get my balances that is why 24hrs before to confirmed my transaction is not a big deal to me.
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June 04, 2017, 03:34:33 PM
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I use xapo wallet, and xapo users are not allowed to set the fees as they want. So xapo set 2 ways for transactions fees, High priority and standard fees. I don't like this way, when we talk about fees, we should set our fees as we want. Anyways, current xapo fees are too high, i don't recommand to use xapo if you make transactions daily.

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June 04, 2017, 03:49:21 PM
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At times I find myself paying high fees because I need my bitcoin transaction confirmed in the fastest possible time
atm am paying fees in the ranges of 40-60k satoshis which is high enough imo hope it maintains this range for the time being.
If value of bitcoin are continuous increasing i think that range will increase also. For me i do not try the higher fee because i am not in hurry to get my balances that is why 24hrs before to confirmed my transaction is not a big deal to me.
You can use low fee if you not want send BTC fast to someone or your Balance, but when you make an auto deal or sell it to get real money, I think you need use hight fee  for your transaction, because you can get time out if it is an automatic exchange service Wink
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June 04, 2017, 03:55:06 PM
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I used in the range of 50-100 sat/byte only. That's the limit that I can only afford and I'm lucky that it will be pick up and not struck in days or even weeks. Of course it will took me like 12-24 hrs to wait for the transaction to be confirmed, but I'm still fine with that because I'm not always in a hurry when sending/receiving bitcoin on my own wallet.

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June 04, 2017, 03:58:23 PM
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Sometimes when I withdraw BTC to my wallet, I set really low fees like 50-70 satoshi per byte and wait for weeks, because I'm not going to spend those coins in the near future anyway. I think it's a good way to save a bit of money, because if you look back, you might realize that your fees have added up to a big amount in USD value, while it wasn't always necessary to get those coins confirmed asap.
So, do you use low fees, or always want to get confirmation in a next few blocks?

That is entirely your personal choice. This is the reason why the concept of "Dynamic Fees" is developed.
However, I don't feel waiting for weeks is good option especially for me where I need to remunerate number of people daily who keep up my work running. Nor it will contribute to our vision of 'Bitcoin as money'. No money takes a week to transfer between two people.
So low fees and wait can't be any solution. We need some amendment is block size.
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June 04, 2017, 04:00:12 PM
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I only move my BTC if it is needed so I do not use low fees.  I use the recommended fee since I hate waiting too long.  This might remind me one day that I spent too much on Transaction fee but at least i can tell myself, I saved me from all the stress and frustration of getting my transaction confirmed.
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June 04, 2017, 04:23:23 PM
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I never tried below normal transaction fee. Maybe im afraid my funds to be stuck and pending in many days. Also i only transfer funds when i really need the fund. And for that i have to put normal to priority miner fee to make it faster and avoid inconvenience. That's a good move tho. But i rather don't transfer the funds than wait for that long.
I am also mindful of what fees I end up paying for the transactions I make and it depends on how quick I may want them confirmed, Sometimes I go with the fastest, some other times I settle for the lowest fees, but never encountered delay beyond couple of hours.

For a long while I have not been using my blockchain wallet, because on one day I calculated what fees I had had to pay all the while I used them, I was astound by the figure that stared at me, Xapo then became my main wallet.
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June 04, 2017, 04:37:26 PM
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That's true, with the higher bitcoin price, the fee is also very pronounced, I also address the low fee, but only for withdrawal to fiat money.

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June 04, 2017, 04:46:58 PM
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I think Because there is a big problem with low transaction costs, and I keep paying attention to every transaction fee I pay and I have to use a wallet where I have to control the proper one already suggested.
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June 04, 2017, 04:48:20 PM
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NO. I do not use high fee although the fee is ridiculous. I have to make a high fee because I do not my transaction get pending for more than 1 week. And because of the high fee, I only hold my bitcoin in my wallet and try not to use it as much as I can so that I can reduce the fee that I have to pay to the miners

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June 04, 2017, 04:54:30 PM
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I can't even get trough with normal fees, I would use low fees but my transaction would be confirmed a week later and I do not want to wait that long. I send normal fees always because I do not want to pay half of the transactions worth with high fees. You should not use low until everything with the fees is settled.

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June 04, 2017, 05:21:01 PM
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I have set my electrum wallet to dynamic fee so that I do not have to worry about the transaction fee and get stuck in the blockchain unconfirmed.  So basically this answers that I do not use low fees.  I always wanted to use standard payment so that the transaction won't get stuck in the blockchain for hours or days.
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June 04, 2017, 06:03:56 PM
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I dare not to use low fee because I am afraid that my transactions will get stuck for several days.  I am quite a worry person since I am worried about things no matter how small it is.  So to save my self from worrying I always follow the standard transaction fee.
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June 04, 2017, 06:39:31 PM
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I always use 30 satoshi per byte and i'm letting Jihan BU to pay the rest on my behalf.   Viabtc's free service does the job very well. Cool
Hilarious stuff.  Jihan Wu doesn't lead ViaBTC.  For all we know he could be mining there, but I've seen no evidence of this.  I hope you feel good abusing a free service for your own greed.

Everytime I visit Viabtc they fill my screen with their bullshit BU propaganda text. They are in the same bed with Jihan so yes, i really feel good while doing my stuff.

If they weren't being greedy and activated segwit already, I wouldn't be needing to do so. If they steal from us by not activating segwit, then there is no choice for us but to balance the scale.  Cool

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I always use 30 satoshi per byte and i'm letting Jihan BU to pay the rest on my behalf.   Viabtc's free service does the job very well. Cool
Hilarious stuff.  Jihan Wu doesn't lead ViaBTC.  For all we know he could be mining there, but I've seen no evidence of this.  I hope you feel good abusing a free service for your own greed.

Everytime I visit Viabtc they fill my screen with their bullshit BU propaganda text. They are in the same bed with Jihan so yes, i really feel good while doing my stuff.

If they weren't being greedy and activated segwit already, I wouldn't be needing to do so. If they steal from us by not activating segwit, then there is no choice for us but to balance the scale.  Cool

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I totally agree with you that this is the fault of the miners who are stoping segwit to get implemented so that they can earn high transaction fees , but it is not good so who are smart are using the same old transaction fees and then they go to viabtc and submit their transaction to acceleration and get confirmed. It is really great that viabtc is doing a great job in helping the bitcoin users with their free service
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June 04, 2017, 07:50:33 PM
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I always use 30 satoshi per byte and i'm letting Jihan BU to pay the rest on my behalf.   Viabtc's free service does the job very well. Cool

Paying >200satoshi/byte started to hurt me very badly. I have to move my coins from one address to another from time to time because those small incomes which i collect from here and there create many inputs in time and i don't want to look at a 100$ fee in some day.

I prefer to pay more than wait and spam their captcha every hour until I can finally push through all the other captcha solvers.
If doing it is worth paying $1 more to you, be my guest. To me it's almost nothing, so I don't mind spending 50c or 1$ more here and there. My time is worth more.
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June 04, 2017, 07:55:59 PM
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At the times when I need urgent transactions then I use the required fees to get my transaction more faster but at the times when I do not need any faster transaction and I can wait then I use a medium transaction fees.
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June 04, 2017, 08:27:07 PM
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Yes, I always have used low fees so far. But that is because of Multibit wallet, who sets the fees automatically and as I have set the fee slider towards the lower side of it. But now I think I would get Electrum and use manual fee per transaction, so I can set low fees for transactions when the time won't matter much, and relatively higher fees for when its an urgent transfer.
There is a problem with me too, I use rushwallet and the problem is that when I send some bitcoins the output comes to my own addy too of course and that makes the transaction size mammoth and hence requiring big fees. But that been said I never faced much issues because in case I mistakenly spent low fees then I can get them confirmed through viabtc transaction accelerator.
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June 04, 2017, 08:38:23 PM
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I always use 30 satoshi per byte and i'm letting Jihan BU to pay the rest on my behalf.   Viabtc's free service does the job very well. Cool

Paying >200satoshi/byte started to hurt me very badly. I have to move my coins from one address to another from time to time because those small incomes which i collect from here and there create many inputs in time and i don't want to look at a 100$ fee in some day.
The service is working. But quite a long queue.

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June 04, 2017, 08:40:29 PM
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Previously i was using 80 sat for my all transaction and still i am paying that only and get help from viabtc to clear my transaction. It takes time but i am not in hurry for any Bitcoins or fiat currency to be in wallet.
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June 04, 2017, 08:42:18 PM
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Sometimes when I withdraw BTC to my wallet, I set really low fees like 50-70 satoshi per byte and wait for weeks, because I'm not going to spend those coins in the near future anyway. I think it's a good way to save a bit of money, because if you look back, you might realize that your fees have added up to a big amount in USD value, while it wasn't always necessary to get those coins confirmed asap.
So, do you use low fees, or always want to get confirmation in a next few blocks?

It's not safe to use low fees anymore. I used to be able to send transactions with 0 fees assuming that my btc amount is big and get it confirmed within the week but now it's not even a matter of time anymore - if you out low fees in your transaction it might not confirm at all as the backlog of unconfirmed transactions builds up.

It's might be a good idea to do it if you're trying to restrain yourself from doing a certain activity but saving a few thousand satoshi per transaction doesn't make sense to me.
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June 04, 2017, 08:45:22 PM
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I don't think that using low fees is possible at this time. If you have a look at the technical support discussion board you will see that board over populated with "transaction stuck" or "transaction pending" and all these threads have something in common, low fees. Different wallets have taken their precautionary measures for this, for example electrum in latest versions has added a Fee slider where you can set it to the far right and have your transaction confirmed within the next block or 2.

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June 04, 2017, 09:25:39 PM
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My web wallet is charging me about 1.8$ per transaction but it confirms within an hour though, some times less than an hour and this is huge if you're sending smaller payments so I will advice people to use Bitcoin torvhigher transactionscat least until a solution is applied to the current issues.
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June 04, 2017, 09:40:02 PM
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you need to do some analyzing on the mempool sometimes. i have had some 100 satoshi/byte fee transactions in the past few days which have been confirmed in less than 5 minutes!
as i have said multiple times, the big number you see in the mempool (60K, 90K) are mostly spam attack not real transactions which means most of them have pretty low fees.
Wow 5 minutes it is a very fast time for the confirmation time in the moment? Even I myself use a fee 30k satoshi. Sometimes it takes hours to get one confirmation lol

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June 04, 2017, 10:49:33 PM
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With the higher bitcoin price, the dollar we pay for the transaction fee will increase as well, even though the actual amount of bitcoin we pay for the transaction fee is fixed from the first. To be honest, this is a problem when the amount of dollars we spend on transaction fees suddenly rises as the price of bitcoin increases. I hope there will be a solution for some online wallet and exchange wallet want to lower transaction fee
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June 04, 2017, 10:59:40 PM
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Daily traders rarely check the mempool condition, they only do transactions in the market and see nothing but trading graphics profits and losses, are very good conditions to monitor but we cannot control it because it has the nature of mass transactions. I dealt with it casually, I mean dividing the transaction into 2 priorities: regular cost with small amounts, and special costs with huge amount (2x)
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June 05, 2017, 05:35:08 AM
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I always use 30 satoshi per byte and i'm letting Jihan BU to pay the rest on my behalf.   Viabtc's free service does the job very well. Cool

Paying >200satoshi/byte started to hurt me very badly. I have to move my coins from one address to another from time to time because those small incomes which i collect from here and there create many inputs in time and i don't want to look at a 100$ fee in some day.
The service is working. But quite a long queue.

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June 05, 2017, 05:44:41 AM
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I always use 30 satoshi per byte and i'm letting Jihan BU to pay the rest on my behalf.   Viabtc's free service does the job very well. Cool

Paying >200satoshi/byte started to hurt me very badly. I have to move my coins from one address to another from time to time because those small incomes which i collect from here and there create many inputs in time and i don't want to look at a 100$ fee in some day.
The service is working. But quite a long queue.

I guess some of you guys still don't know how to abuse viabtc. Well i'll tell you:

Viabtc has 100 free slots for every hour. All you gotta do is wait for hh:00:00 and submit your txid right away. So you'll be accepted in the next block. No captcha solving, no waiting. Here you go.

not that simple, i guess someone is runnign a both there that solve captcha(there are captcha to solve) and can insert transaction faster than you

or those chinese at 2captcha are solving captcha for soemone that want his TX confirmed faster at low cost

they should really add another transaction accelerator, or increase the limit, if they have a deals with the miners, would be good for both party
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June 05, 2017, 05:53:05 AM
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I just sent a 189-bytes transaction and paid a little less than 78 sats per byte. It confirmed about an hour after I made the transaction. That only cost me about half a dollar, instead of paying a little less than $2 had I chose to make the confirmation faster. This is what I do in times that I really don't need to hurry and the additional savings on the transaction fees could prove to make a difference in the long run.
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June 05, 2017, 06:03:20 AM
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My web wallet is charging me about 1.8$ per transaction but it confirms within an hour though, some times less than an hour and this is huge if you're sending smaller payments so I will advice people to use Bitcoin torvhigher transactionscat least until a solution is applied to the current issues.
What web wallet you using? They are doing a good job of ensuring your transaction confirms in a reasonable time.
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June 05, 2017, 08:35:38 AM
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I still like using Online Wallet, trusted services like Coinbase & XAPO, their services are good, have high quality security, easy too use, nice U.I, and Almost transaction I don't need to care about fees Cheesy
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June 05, 2017, 08:44:33 AM
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Yes, I mostly go with the average fees but still since last few weeks I am experiencing lesser confirmation time (I am not sure how much of the portion from exchange fees is allocated for the transaction fees). I use Blockchain web wallet and they usually put dynamic fees along with the transaction according the the current network load. Thus, I never faced any unconfirmed transaction issue.
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June 05, 2017, 08:48:09 AM
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For transaction between two wallet address I used to go with the transaction fee that's suggested by the wallet itself. Other than that during the time of gambling on live events used to place an increased transaction fee for faster confirmation as the odds used to vary with respect to time based on the game scenario.
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June 05, 2017, 08:50:51 AM
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Except for no-need to urgently payments, I send with them with at least 200/s when is congested and normally 0.0002 or so when the network is normal.. it's not bad when you don't need the coins urgently "and can easily rebroadcast them if they expire" however when you want a confirmation soon a decent fee is a must.
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June 05, 2017, 08:54:14 AM
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well when it comes to management of a wallet to do a transaction you prob do a fee of even 10000 sats to fee in BTC for most wallets even some do 16000 and its very regular to take just 30 mins to block find and transact but lower fees will take more time and very low fees like you saw or use of the 100 sats can get you to take like 3 to 2 days no? i mean depends on your need of the other side of the trasanction but it can become like a bank transaction in time if 100 sats only used and only if you can control that like multibit hd wallet but i do not advise too much low fees even less than 10000 satoshis for now.  i could see its your point over 5 years from now if btc goes really up and 10000 sats can become like 3 $ or soo yes that part can be exspensive to use the 30 mins transactions you are very pretininent in question but only for like 6 years from now ... for now i advise to use 16000 satoshis fees or 10000 satoshis fees for amounts of 50$ transactions ... in my humble newbie opinion
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June 05, 2017, 08:55:28 AM
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My web wallet is charging me about 1.8$ per transaction but it confirms within an hour though, some times less than an hour and this is huge if you're sending smaller payments so I will advice people to use Bitcoin torvhigher transactionscat least until a solution is applied to the current issues.
With the current rate of bitcoin, 1.8$ supposedly to be 0.00073 while the average fee needed for a transaction to be confirmed within the next 3 blocks is 0.00088140 (from https://bitcoinfees.21.co/). No wonder why it's still taking an hour for just a confirmation. Even my transaction which I made a day ago uses 500 sat/byte as a fee and still unconfirmed within 2 hours.
If you want to make a transaction, always be sure to check the current recommendation on that given site above, otherwise your transaction will either stuck or have too much fee(not wrong btw).
The scalability issue seems will not be solved very soon, the only way is to use the recommendation fee as your advice.

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June 05, 2017, 08:57:00 AM
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Yes, I mostly go with the average fees but still since last few weeks I am experiencing lesser confirmation time (I am not sure how much of the portion from exchange fees is allocated for the transaction fees). I use Blockchain web wallet and they usually put dynamic fees along with the transaction according the the current network load. Thus, I never faced any unconfirmed transaction issue.
It's really up to you if you really need it or it can wait. I use lowest possible fee in transferring amount that I will not use as soon as possible while if the amount that I send is have something to be used which is important and requires immediate use as soon as possible then I will place high fee and will not do microtransactions as I can since it will really eat up your money.
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June 05, 2017, 09:03:35 AM
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To be honest. I just stopped using bitcoin for my daily purchases when I learned that scaling resolution is planned to take place in Summer.
I can wait for that, hopefully it will bring us much lower fees and speed whole network up.
Normally when I send BTC I try to include 'correct' tx  fee. It is frustrating to wait days for my transaction to confirm.
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June 05, 2017, 09:05:26 AM
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I still like using Online Wallet, trusted services like Coinbase & XAPO, their services are good, have high quality security, easy too use, nice U.I, and Almost transaction I don't need to care about fees Cheesy
I much prefer on low fees however, it is much better to have a higher fees as long as you can assure your wallet is safe rather than the wallet that has a low fees but the security is not that good. I always use online and trusted wallet to assure my money is in the good hand.
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June 05, 2017, 09:16:47 AM
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I use low fees in those cases when I don't need the bitcoins urgently and can wait for days to reach my wallet.
I still like using Online Wallet, trusted services like Coinbase & XAPO, their services are good, have high quality security, easy too use, nice U.I, and Almost transaction I don't need to care about fees Cheesy
I much prefer on low fees however, it is much better to have a higher fees as long as you can assure your wallet is safe rather than the wallet that has a low fees but the security is not that good. I always use online and trusted wallet to assure my money is in the good hand.
We should never use online wallets, as the chances of them getting hacked are pretty much high and you will be left with nothing if they get hacked.

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June 05, 2017, 09:27:57 AM
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My web wallet is charging me about 1.8$ per transaction but it confirms within an hour though, some times less than an hour and this is huge if you're sending smaller payments so I will advice people to use Bitcoin torvhigher transactionscat least until a solution is applied to the current issues.

True, web wallets always default to the cost of transactions, but thanks to that, transactions are processed faster, it's very convenient

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I still like using Online Wallet, trusted services like Coinbase & XAPO, their services are good, have high quality security, easy too use, nice U.I, and Almost transaction I don't need to care about fees Cheesy

I hope you do know that this exchangers don't give you the private keys to your wallet right? So it means you don't have control of you btc. Another issue is that if those exchangers are hacked, what will happen to your bitcoin then? It will be gone. That's why most of us here uses wallet that we can have the private keys so at least we have the control like adjusting transaction fees when we want to send it to someone.

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June 05, 2017, 09:46:28 AM
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Yes I`m using a wallet with low fee, it was like that until recently, xapo now have fee and for me this fee is too high. Couple days ago I wanted to send 7 mBTC and low fee for slow transaction was 1.5 mBTC, high and fast one was above 2.3 mBTC, that is funny and to high for me.
In the end I didn`t send that bitcoins, I`m looking for another wallet with lower or at least with adjustable fee`s, I don`t mind waiting, it`s better then to overpay transaction.

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June 05, 2017, 09:50:32 AM
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Why are the fees so high now, where there are only 50k unconfirmed transactions? The situation is not like before when we saw more than 200k transactions unconfirmed!

I just checked making a transaction in coinbase and they charge 0.0013 which is really a lot and i assume that is around 500+ satoshis per byte.
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June 05, 2017, 10:25:20 AM
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Yes, I mostly go with the average fees but still since last few weeks I am experiencing lesser confirmation time (I am not sure how much of the portion from exchange fees is allocated for the transaction fees). I use Blockchain web wallet and they usually put dynamic fees along with the transaction according the the current network load. Thus, I never faced any unconfirmed transaction issue.
It's really up to you if you really need it or it can wait. I use lowest possible fee in transferring amount that I will not use as soon as possible while if the amount that I send is have something to be used which is important and requires immediate use as soon as possible then I will place high fee and will not do microtransactions as I can since it will really eat up your money.

Yes, it is not worth it for micro transactions but I do less transactions with high amount so I don't hesitate to pay the fees which are required by the network. This thing should be resolved if we want bitcoin as a payment option in local shops / offline markets etc. Even though the fees are not much for normal transaction, one can not afford to pay these fees for micro transaction and even for the normal transactions if the situation continues.
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June 05, 2017, 10:28:16 AM
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Yes, I am using low fees most of the time because i am not in a hurry receiving my withdrawals, But if i am sending someone and if its important i used the highest amount so that the other party can get the Bitcoin faster, i do this when i am manually trading Bitcoins to my contacts.
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June 05, 2017, 10:33:16 AM
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i am not dare to pay a low fee for any transaction nowadays, the situation on the Core is explicit that too many unconfirmed transactions lagged the blockchain. i have one of my signature withdrawal with ~100 satoshi per byte required more than half of a day to confirm.

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June 05, 2017, 10:42:28 AM
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Yes, I mostly go with the average fees but still since last few weeks I am experiencing lesser confirmation time (I am not sure how much of the portion from exchange fees is allocated for the transaction fees). I use Blockchain web wallet and they usually put dynamic fees along with the transaction according the the current network load. Thus, I never faced any unconfirmed transaction issue.
in fact the conformation speed is different from time to time. some time it take some minutes and remain very fast, while other time the conformation time take a lot of time some time more than hours. i think the issue is increasing from time to time and it must be solve on priority bases because the users of bitcoin are increasing too much, therefore it is too much important that all the complaints against the conformation time must be solve.
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Sometimes when I withdraw BTC to my wallet, I set really low fees like 50-70 satoshi per byte and wait for weeks, because I'm not going to spend those coins in the near future anyway. I think it's a good way to save a bit of money, because if you look back, you might realize that your fees have added up to a big amount in USD value, while it wasn't always necessary to get those coins confirmed asap.
So, do you use low fees, or always want to get confirmation in a next few blocks?
I always follow the recommended fees by the wallet that I'm using. I'm not adjusting it or setting it to lower fee as many are having problem when it comes to the confirmation. But if you are lucky when you pay lower fee and your transaction will be confirmed suddenly. If that happens you are one of the very few lucky low fee payee.



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June 05, 2017, 10:50:47 AM
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Sometimes when I withdraw BTC to my wallet, I set really low fees like 50-70 satoshi per byte and wait for weeks, because I'm not going to spend those coins in the near future anyway. I think it's a good way to save a bit of money, because if you look back, you might realize that your fees have added up to a big amount in USD value, while it wasn't always necessary to get those coins confirmed asap.
So, do you use low fees, or always want to get confirmation in a next few blocks?
I sometimes use quite low fees if it is not an urgent transaction. Otherwise I normally use high transaction fees, even normal fees don't get confirmed that quickly and most of my transactions are urgent otherwise I wouldn't be wasting the money sending it over to someone.

 
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June 05, 2017, 11:22:41 AM
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yes like many people say here
a 2$ over 10.000 satoshis fee its quite nice for a week trasaction you lose 8$ a month tops but you get you payouts done
you prob dont need to change that one fees on your wallet.
but if you do lots of transactions and of low satoshis overall each you prob need to change a bit to lower fees in order to remove to less the payout to chain of that money you transact
in order to not lose much like a bank transaction.
if soo you prob see ... what a weck for 3$ 2$ fees a 50$ transaction and takes 30 mins rather use a bank there is no need to put bitcoin to this.
because its being a move to top the 10.000 satoshis fees as regular transactions and its still 2$ (lost)
to pay for 30 mins speed.

the speed of business at the speed of thought and digital nervous system can be diferent for each one of us and no need  to pay too high 2$ now
for a 30 mins and yes pay like 1000 satoshis fee like 20 cents and take like 2 days but ok it will occur
we know the certain of blockchain.
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It depends, for small amounts i use altcoins now, but for bitcoin transactions above a certain amount I pay 0.0008BTC
When you send very small amounts, it's just ridiculous to pay 10% fees, it's just insane for me
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June 05, 2017, 12:57:49 PM
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Sometimes when I withdraw BTC to my wallet, I set really low fees like 50-70 satoshi per byte and wait for weeks, because I'm not going to spend those coins in the near future anyway. I think it's a good way to save a bit of money, because if you look back, you might realize that your fees have added up to a big amount in USD value, while it wasn't always necessary to get those coins confirmed asap.
So, do you use low fees, or always want to get confirmation in a next few blocks?


Your solver has been around for a long time, because I rarely store Bitcoins in my wallet and often pull it in several times and wait for a while to trade successfully. In addition, this way will help you less likely to be caught by the bank
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June 05, 2017, 01:01:26 PM
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never used low fees , its risky i used this once and received my payment on 7 hours , ijm always use standard-high fees due its fast confirmation , i dont recommend if you use high fees for low amount transaction since its worthless..  Embarrassed

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never used low fees , its risky i used this once and received my payment on 7 hours , ijm always use standard-high fees due its fast confirmation , i dont recommend if you use high fees for low amount transaction since its worthless..  Embarrassed
in some cases when we are going for big transaction then high fee is on no problem about, but some time we go for little transaction and in such cases it become difficult and costly to use high or standard transaction feel. in some cases even some exchanges have standard exchange rate and you have to pay that in any case either you are going for low transaction or for high transaction, but you have to pay the fixed fee for your transaction automatically.

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June 05, 2017, 01:28:08 PM
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Yes, I mostly go with the average fees but still since last few weeks I am experiencing lesser confirmation time (I am not sure how much of the portion from exchange fees is allocated for the transaction fees). I use Blockchain web wallet and they usually put dynamic fees along with the transaction according the the current network load. Thus, I never faced any unconfirmed transaction issue.
in fact the conformation speed is different from time to time. some time it take some minutes and remain very fast, while other time the conformation time take a lot of time some time more than hours. i think the issue is increasing from time to time and it must be solve on priority bases because the users of bitcoin are increasing too much, therefore it is too much important that all the complaints against the conformation time must be solve.

Yes, but I am not sure why this is happening because when I see my transaction is confirmed faster I immediately check the current number of unconfirmed transactions and in most of the cases I notice that the number is above 10K transactions. I am sure exchanges put the same fees but yet I never faced any long time (24 Hours+) unconfirmed transaction issue so far. I know web wallets put dynamic fees according to the network but I don't think that exchanges are doing so but still my transactions are taking place faster than before.
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June 05, 2017, 01:34:02 PM
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my own way to overcome an expensive fee might have already switched to other coins such as $DGB $XRP $WAVES fast confirmed transaction .
is the solution to a very expensive fee Bitcoin transaction at this time  Smiley
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my own way to overcome an expensive fee might have already switched to other coins such as $DGB $XRP $WAVES fast confirmed transaction .
is the solution to a very expensive fee Bitcoin transaction at this time  Smiley

Switched to other coins can only be done if it is in the exchanger, we may not just keep bitcoin on the exchanger site. I also switched to other coins if my bitcoin was on the exchange site and wanted to be transferred to another exchanger, but I prefer dogecoin instead of $ DGB $ XRP or $ WAVES
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June 05, 2017, 03:32:04 PM
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Why are the fees so high now, where there are only 50k unconfirmed transactions? The situation is not like before when we saw more than 200k transactions unconfirmed!

I just checked making a transaction in coinbase and they charge 0.0013 which is really a lot and i assume that is around 500+ satoshis per byte.

The number of unconfirmed transactions is irrelevant..
The only important things is the size and the fee they are paying.

You can have 200 000 tx with 1/2 inputs and you can have 50k with 40 inputs.. that would actually mean a 5 times longer queue.

I saw yesterday a block that was filled up with just 200 transactions
https://blockchain.info/en/block-index/1511664

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I'm using mycelium wallet and always using normal fee when doing transaction before but now that the price became so high. I often used low-prio that only cost like $2. Normal fee is too much for me it cost almost $4 the last time i made a transaction.

I agree, with the rising price of the better we use low cost because if we use the normal cost it will take a lot of time of the transaction fees that can reach $4 whereas if lower costs we can save the cost of approximately $2. When will my transaction then it is better to use a low cost alone. in addition, we must also be able to take into account all income and expense that comes out so that everything is balanced and not too overwhelming.
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never used low fees , its risky i used this once and received my payment on 7 hours , ijm always use standard-high fees due its fast confirmation , i dont recommend if you use high fees for low amount transaction since its worthless..  Embarrassed

These days I think it would be crazy to use a fee lower than the standard, if not higher.  Almost all TX's that I have incoming or outgoing I watch on blockcypher.  It is an interesting approach the site has by giving the normal info and adding in the miner preference and a few more nice little points of data that are very cool.  The more and more that people learn about Bitcoin, the more that I distrust a low fee too.  

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never used low fees , its risky i used this once and received my payment on 7 hours , ijm always use standard-high fees due its fast confirmation , i dont recommend if you use high fees for low amount transaction since its worthless..  Embarrassed

These days I think it would be crazy to use a fee lower than the standard, if not higher.  Almost all TX's that I have incoming or outgoing I watch on blockcypher.  It is an interesting approach the site has by giving the normal info and adding in the miner preference and a few more nice little points of data that are very cool.  The more and more that people learn about Bitcoin, the more that I distrust a low fee too.  
yes , i pay my fee so much , is there any solutions in the future ? or the fee will be bigger and bigger?
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i use low fee and my transactions getting 5-6 days to confirm but i don't have problem because i'm trying to save some btc
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I mostly set my miner fees lower than the recommended amount from bitcoinfees.21.co ranging from 150 to 200+ satoshi per byte. The confirmation times are not that long from my experience most of my tx confirms within a couple of hours and the longest one was about 2-3 days.

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June 05, 2017, 05:31:42 PM
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Sometimes when I withdraw BTC to my wallet, I set really low fees like 50-70 satoshi per byte and wait for weeks, because I'm not going to spend those coins in the near future anyway. I think it's a good way to save a bit of money, because if you look back, you might realize that your fees have added up to a big amount in USD value, while it wasn't always necessary to get those coins confirmed asap.
So, do you use low fees, or always want to get confirmation in a next few blocks?

Nice idea if you are comfortable in that way. For me at the usual case, it's better to make a big transfer at once. Ok let's say you are setting a low priority of 50-70 sats per byte but always doing that for a week, then it's no different from the usual transfers. Im just thankful that even the fees are high, good thing bitcoin price is high.

It's more worse if we are still on below $1,000 but the fees applied to confirmed our transaction will cost $3 or more dollars.
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A few days ago I had to make a payment of 10$ and the minimum recomended fee of my walltet was 7$ this is getting out of control, and I have heard of people making payments of 1$ with a fee of 2$ or more.
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There were time I will go cheap on tx fees but I do not do it anymore. Once I paid 50sats per byte and the tx got stuck in mempool. And then suddenly I needed money but I cannot get on my bitcoin because it was stuck. I learned my lesson and pay higher fees and keep my bitcoin always readily available. It is a pain to pay high fees but there is no other way around it, YET.
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Since most of my bitcoin need involve paying for hosting, running exchange service for people then no point using low fee.
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Not really, something forces us to use higher transaction costs so it is necessary to get a quick confirmation when new block is found

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I always consult this website before sending any payment. I don't like to wait so this website is a great tool for anyone to consult before sending any bitcoin with low fees that risks to not be accepted by the network or delayed a lot of time. I use https://bitcoinfees.21.co/ to check the recommended fee always.

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June 05, 2017, 05:55:52 PM
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Since most of my bitcoin need involve paying for hosting, running exchange service for people then no point using low fee.

Yes, we should not use the low fees for transactions, which will cause a lot of obstacles to our work. Unverified or long-term transactions will make your work uncomfortable. We should use higher fees, it does not need to be too high, it needs just enough, and so, your transaction speed will be extremely fast.
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June 05, 2017, 06:01:02 PM
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Since most of my bitcoin need involve paying for hosting, running exchange service for people then no point using low fee.

Yes, we should not use the low fees for transactions, which will cause a lot of obstacles to our work. Unverified or long-term transactions will make your work uncomfortable.
I'll try to figure it out in this area a little later. Although I understand that the broadcast and payment for services will be for me some event. The thing is that I'm trying to figure out more and more, but there are some difficulties, in which there are very subtle complications.
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June 05, 2017, 08:47:54 PM
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A few days ago I had to make a payment of 10$ and the minimum recomended fee of my walltet was 7$ this is getting out of control, and I have heard of people making payments of 1$ with a fee of 2$ or more.

That is just stupid.
There are already 100s of posts telling the same stuff.

Bitcoin at this moment is not suitable for micropayments.
If you make transactions under 20$ just use the conventional methods.

There are a lot of services that are far cheaper when it comes to small sums. Circle for example.

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June 05, 2017, 09:04:35 PM
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i use low fee and my transactions getting 5-6 days to confirm but i don't have problem because i'm trying to save some btc
I really wish to set these sort of lower fees and since i am using an online wallet i really do not have that option to input lower transaction fees and if i need to send a few transactions per day then it would cost too much for me and i have to cut down on my transactions per day to avoid spending more money for the fees.
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June 05, 2017, 09:06:28 PM
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my own way to overcome an expensive fee might have already switched to other coins such as $DGB $XRP $WAVES fast confirmed transaction .
is the solution to a very expensive fee Bitcoin transaction at this time  Smiley

But changing from one cryptocurrency to the other might also affect part of its value and so eventually the amount you will to pay to get changed into an Altcoin may be equivalent to what you'd have paid as a transaction fees for the original Bitcoin transaction.
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Paying 0.001-0.002 BTC charge when i require quick exchange Because purchasing virtual stuff and paying expenses for exchanges is supporting bitcoin economy  Grin
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I think YoBit exchange is using low fees...when I sent a btc from yobit to another, it took days to go through =/
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June 05, 2017, 10:23:05 PM
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Since most of my bitcoin need involve paying for hosting, running exchange service for people then no point using low fee.

Yes, we should not use the low fees for transactions, which will cause a lot of obstacles to our work. Unverified or long-term transactions will make your work uncomfortable.
Just think about it, if all people pay high transaction fees that means that we are paying them for nothing because they will not make transactions faster since there are a lot
i think that the whole point of pying fees is only for the poeople who really need their transactions faster like investment or gambling where every second counts other than that we are just wasting money
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June 05, 2017, 10:29:42 PM
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i use low fee and my transactions getting 5-6 days to confirm but i don't have problem because i'm trying to save some btc
LOL. Maybe you do not have anything big to deal with bitcoin. As I am an online seller, it is 100% ridiculous when a transaction takes more than 1 hour to be confirmed. Because of that fact, it is hard for bitcoin to become something bigger and greater like what we all expect
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I do not want to use a low fee because it will slow my transaction, so I use the fee in accordance with the rules in the wallet, or sometimes I add a little fee to be more quickly transported my transaction by the miners
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i use the default fees by blockchain and coinbase. no any issue and long delay.
Also for me, try to not modify the fees, if i put wrong how... Tongue
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NO chance i guess bitcoin is increasing its price in the market so no doubt that the fee will also increase i dont know why it also increasing but i guess it is just normal to take advantage in what is happening in the market so they will definitely do that because they have a reason to do high fees so probably all transaction have high fees.
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June 05, 2017, 11:17:37 PM
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I think YoBit exchange is using low fees...when I sent a btc from yobit to another, it took days to go through =/

They are terrible and I don't want to be part of those complaining club, most of the trading sites are requiring fees. And I haven't chose the lower fees because I don't want to experience the long wait for my transaction to be confirmed by the miners. But I don't want to pay too much fees I just use the normal fees.

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When the amount I send was low and not important I will send it using low or normal fee, other than that usually I used a high fee eventhough it is expensive but I am an anxious person, I can't sleep and will keep on checking if my transaction is not confirmed yet


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June 05, 2017, 11:33:08 PM
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i use the default fees by blockchain and coinbase. no any issue and long delay.
Also for me, try to not modify the fees, if i put wrong how... Tongue

 Yes I do the same with coinbase and I get my transactions confirmed in just an hour or less sometimes. Coinbase also has internal transfers from other coinbase wallets that are free of charge because they don't go into the blockchain.
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June 05, 2017, 11:46:14 PM
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Sometimes when I withdraw BTC to my wallet, I set really low fees like 50-70 satoshi per byte and wait for weeks, because I'm not going to spend those coins in the near future anyway. I think it's a good way to save a bit of money, because if you look back, you might realize that your fees have added up to a big amount in USD value, while it wasn't always necessary to get those coins confirmed asap.
So, do you use low fees, or always want to get confirmation in a next few blocks?

Nice one, it is works if you are not in hurry to send bitcoin. What kind of wallet do you use to set those low fees? as I've never set it, just automatic fee from blockchain wallet. But, it is really piss me off waiting for days to get a confirmation, so $1-2 doesn't matter in my opinion, especially you want it be confirmed soon.
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I do not want to use a low fee because it will slow my transaction, so I use the fee in accordance with the rules in the wallet, or sometimes I add a little fee to be more quickly transported my transaction by the miners

Yes, we can save, but we should save at work. Our work requires fast transactions, saving will slow our work, and it is not good.

i use the default fees by blockchain and coinbase. no any issue and long delay.
Also for me, try to not modify the fees, if i put wrong how... Tongue

 Yes I do the same with coinbase and I get my transactions confirmed in just an hour or less sometimes. Coinbase also has internal transfers from other coinbase wallets that are free of charge because they don't go into the blockchain.

Me too
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I always use the default fee or the usual recommended fee to avoid the length of the transaction. even though bitcoin fees are getting expensive but I also get benefit from the bitcoin itself.

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i use the default fees by blockchain and coinbase. no any issue and long delay.
Also for me, try to not modify the fees, if i put wrong how... Tongue

 Yes I do the same with coinbase and I get my transactions confirmed in just an hour or less sometimes. Coinbase also has internal transfers from other coinbase wallets that are free of charge because they don't go into the blockchain.
When you do the same wallet transactions then they dont really charge up some fees and transfers are instant and talking about coinbase their suggested fee is 0.00103 and thats $2 more which i can say its really expensive if you do make it as a normal fee on your transactions unless if you are rich then those fees are piece a cake

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June 06, 2017, 04:22:14 AM
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NO chance i guess bitcoin is increasing its price in the market so no doubt that the fee will also increase i dont know why it also increasing but i guess it is just normal to take advantage in what is happening in the market so they will definitely do that because they have a reason to do high fees so probably all transaction have high fees.
Because when the price of Bitcoin up more, many people want trade it, and blockchain will have more transaction cannot confirm, if you want your transaction confirm soon, you need spend a small fee for miner (Transaction have hight fee will confirm soon than low fee)
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I prefer to use the recommended fee/s than setting it lower. But the wallet I'm using has no setting up the transaction fee. It get pissed me off if the sender use low fee because it doesn't confirm fast, it takes the waiting time longer and there instances that the transactions are vanish due to unspent as shown in blockchain.

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I prefer to use the recommended fee/s than setting it lower. But the wallet I'm using has no setting up the transaction fee. It get pissed me off if the sender use low fee because it doesn't confirm fast, it takes the waiting time longer and there instances that the transactions are vanish due to unspent as shown in blockchain.
If you want have permission to change fee in wallet, I recomend you should use a Wallet PC,
Ex: Bitcoin Core - strong Wallet, need more space for sync, but very security
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Not anymore. Since there is a huge problem with low fees transactions I take care about the fee I'm paying for my transactions and I'm using wallet where I can control the fees and where the proper fees are already suggested. This is more secure and less chances that I will end up with unconfirmed transaction.
Yes its better to use high fees or middle fees than to use low fees and wait for a long time. Its good to have your own wallet where you can control the fees because youll not be worried anymore.



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June 06, 2017, 06:50:27 AM
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I did not set any fee. Because my wallet using depends on how much you send the bitcoin if the the bitcoin high for sure the transaction fee is high also. My one wallet I use coins.ph called.and their minimum fee is 0.001 bitcoin . If you send 1 bitcoin the fee is alsp like that. Unlike to the other wallet it depends on how much you send. Buf if you want to confirm fast your transaction its better if you set high fee.
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Three months ago, I only need 50 satoshi/kb for make make transactions and it confirm very fast! But now, I need spend 250 sat/kb if I want my transaction confirm fast and this is a big fee for me because the price Bitcoin now very hight

Yes, you should be careful in selecting the transcation fee as a too low fee will make your confirmation waiting for months and its no use.
I got stuck in the same situation too. For the time being I converted my bitcoins into altcoins and then I withdraw accordingly. Another idea is to deposit your bitcoins on exchanges and then withdraw from there as they send mass transaction and hence at a much lower fees they bind up a lot of transactions which we ourselves cannot do.

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Maybe someone can explain. Why is the bytes so high ? The over 1000 when they were otherwise 225. What's going on please help me to understand this.
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If you want have permission to change fee in wallet, I recomend you should use a Wallet PC,
Ex: Bitcoin Core - strong Wallet, need more space for sync, but very security

Actually I don't see the need to use the Bitcoin Core wallet anymore, syncing with this takes ages.

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It depends on how much bitcoins i am transacting with and if it is in a rush or not,mostly at normal transactions i use small fees only but if im going with big amount of bitcoins and im in a rush i use the standar high fee to make transactions faster

 
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June 06, 2017, 11:39:24 PM
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I never use low fees, don't trust them.

I use Electrum wallet and always pay the highest fee possible.

I've had problems before trying lower fees and its not worth the hassle.

Normally I'm moving 10 BTC + so I don't mind paying $5 + for a transaction
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June 06, 2017, 11:42:36 PM
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Maybe someone can explain. Why is the bytes so high ? The over 1000 when they were otherwise 225. What's going on please help me to understand this.
That happens when you frequently receiving small amounts of satoshi, and one you want to send btc to other address then the size takes so high thats why the recommended fee is high to, sometimes the was much hifher than the funds you want to send

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June 06, 2017, 11:48:08 PM
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I never use low fees, don't trust them.

I use Electrum wallet and always pay the highest fee possible.

I've had problems before trying lower fees and its not worth the hassle.

Normally I'm moving 10 BTC + so I don't mind paying $5 + for a transaction
It seems that the fee of BTC transactions which really depends on the size of a transaction give benefits to those who sending bitcoin with large amounts of money. Because, as long as the size is small, you'll seem only required to pay a little amount of money. But the bad thing is, just like what I've experienced in recent days. Sending 0.00286 BTC and take about 0.001 as a fee. Really a bad thing for micro transactions.

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June 06, 2017, 11:53:35 PM
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Yeah, I definitely use the low priority option with a fee of 0.0002996 when sending bitcoin to my main wallet which is not going to be spent soon. On the other hand if I am depositing my bitcoin onto a gambling website or send it to an individual, I always end up choosing the high priority option with an approximate fee of 0.0009877, so that I dont have to worry about the confirmation time.

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June 06, 2017, 11:54:58 PM
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I never use low fees, don't trust them.

I use Electrum wallet and always pay the highest fee possible.

I've had problems before trying lower fees and its not worth the hassle.

Normally I'm moving 10 BTC + so I don't mind paying $5 + for a transaction
It seems that the fee of BTC transactions which really depends on the size of a transaction give benefits to those who sending bitcoin with large amounts of money. Because, as long as the size is small, you'll seem only required to pay a little amount of money. But the bad thing is, just like what I've experienced in recent days. Sending 0.00286 BTC and take about 0.001 as a fee. Really a bad thing for micro transactions.
I think before you send bitcoin check always this site for updated fees here https://bitcoinfees.21.co/
If you are using multiple bitcoin address and your funds was receive on different bitcoin address in your wallet i think if you send it to other the transaction size is high.. so for me right now better to use one address only so that you can not pay for high fee and use dynamic if you are using electrum it can gives you fee estimation so you are far to pay for the fee for slow transaction..

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June 06, 2017, 11:59:30 PM
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I never use low fees, don't trust them.

I use Electrum wallet and always pay the highest fee possible.

I've had problems before trying lower fees and its not worth the hassle.

Normally I'm moving 10 BTC + so I don't mind paying $5 + for a transaction
It seems that the fee of BTC transactions which really depends on the size of a transaction give benefits to those who sending bitcoin with large amounts of money. Because, as long as the size is small, you'll seem only required to pay a little amount of money. But the bad thing is, just like what I've experienced in recent days. Sending 0.00286 BTC and take about 0.001 as a fee. Really a bad thing for micro transactions.
I think before you send bitcoin check always this site for updated fees here https://bitcoinfees.21.co/
If you are using multiple bitcoin address and your funds was receive on different bitcoin address in your wallet i think if you send it to other the transaction size is high.. so for me right now better to use one address only so that you can not pay for high fee and use dynamic if you are using electrum it can gives you fee estimation so you are far to pay for the fee for slow transaction..


The address that the funds were received in your wallet affects the fees?! I'm confused
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June 07, 2017, 12:38:48 AM
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yes i made a transaction and made a fee of 70 satoshi per byte few days ago and it confirmed after 5 hours. i usually pay 250 satoshi per byte fee because before, the recommended fee is 220-250 satoshi per byte but now its 480 i'd rather wait for hours than to pay a huge fee.
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June 07, 2017, 12:40:09 AM
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I used to use lower fees like below 100 satoshi/byte, but I stopped doing this. In lots of transaction, I faced problems.
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June 07, 2017, 12:46:03 AM
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I never use low fees, don't trust them.

I use Electrum wallet and always pay the highest fee possible.

I've had problems before trying lower fees and its not worth the hassle.

Normally I'm moving 10 BTC + so I don't mind paying $5 + for a transaction
It seems that the fee of BTC transactions which really depends on the size of a transaction give benefits to those who sending bitcoin with large amounts of money. Because, as long as the size is small, you'll seem only required to pay a little amount of money. But the bad thing is, just like what I've experienced in recent days. Sending 0.00286 BTC and take about 0.001 as a fee. Really a bad thing for micro transactions.
I think before you send bitcoin check always this site for updated fees here https://bitcoinfees.21.co/
If you are using multiple bitcoin address and your funds was receive on different bitcoin address in your wallet i think if you send it to other the transaction size is high.. so for me right now better to use one address only so that you can not pay for high fee and use dynamic if you are using electrum it can gives you fee estimation so you are far to pay for the fee for slow transaction..


The address that the funds were received in your wallet affects the fees?! I'm confused
That's right, the output and inputs inside of a transaction really affect the fee because it's increasing the size of a transaction. If you're really curious. Try to claim from various faucets into one address which is yours. Then, try to move out your funds that you get from the faucet before into another address, there'll be so many outputs in just one transaction that could overwhelmingly increase the size of the transaction.

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June 07, 2017, 01:17:39 AM
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I try to avoid transacting if possible. Sometimes using bitcoins is just not feasible.
If there is no time constraint in confirmation, I use low fees hoping that it will confirm, even if takes a day.
Only otherwise do I use the recommended fees.
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June 07, 2017, 03:26:13 AM
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I am happy to use the low cost but good service that is expected by everyone orang.dan now I use the stock as my wallet is.
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June 07, 2017, 03:35:59 AM
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Yes, I use XAPO wallet to send bitcoin, I always use low fees because if I use priority fees need more than 200k satosi, and for me is very expensive. If I send more than 0,1 btc I use high fees. I hope cost fees can degrease because bitcoin must better than bank transfer.
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June 07, 2017, 03:36:34 AM
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I am using electrum wallet so there is an option of adding higher fees so generally I prefer to add higher fees so that my transactions should get confirmed fast as I cannot afford to wait longer especially in case of emergency.

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June 07, 2017, 04:10:30 AM
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Of course everybody wants a low fee for each transaction, even for rich people who have lots of bitcoinpun it is necessary. Unfortunately there is no free fee from conbase, I used to use coinbase for transactions but now no, even now the fee is quite big compared to other bitcoin wallet, so I menyimpanya in poloniex, in addition to its trading fee is quite small
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I think even you use low fees but getting slow transaction and yes that's useless, i'd rather to use dynamic fees and add my own fees to maximize my transaction because for me that's okay to add few satoshi to push your transaction.

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June 07, 2017, 04:54:04 AM
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I will use normal fees as I would like to receive my bitcoin asap.
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I'm just moving my Bitcoin with about-normal fees per byte right now, maybe a bit on the lower side but I don't set it so low as to require more than 6 hours for the first confirmation. If I really cared about the fees that I was spending changes are I would have started to care a long time ago, not just right about now. That might come back to bite me in the ass sometime soon. I hope that it won't.
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yes i made a transaction and made a fee of 70 satoshi per byte few days ago and it confirmed after 5 hours. i usually pay 250 satoshi per byte fee because before, the recommended fee is 220-250 satoshi per byte but now its 480 i'd rather wait for hours than to pay a huge fee.
If you use Electrum or Wallet have recomend and default fee, you should use it, from 200 sat/byte and max 500 sat/byte if use Electrum Wink
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I'm not using low fees anymore because blockchain confirmed is really long to get confirmed. That's why i use the minimum fee at least 0.0005-0.001 to get fast confirmation. If you use lower fee such 0.0003 your transaction will not get confirmation fast.


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June 07, 2017, 05:22:11 AM
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I am using the regular fees right now since I am in no hurry to have my transaction confirmed. I don't mind waiting an hour or two if it just for small transactions, just as long as I don't overpay. But if I am in a rush, I would have to pay premium for my transaction to be prioritized, which means doubling (or even more) my transaction fees.
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June 07, 2017, 05:29:19 AM
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Is there anything that can help? Now the fee on the blockchain is very high even can penetrate 1 $ or more, anyone can give me a wallet safe and fee is not too expensive. 1 $ in my opinion is very expensive
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I only use normal fee, no choice anymore, no one is free, I hope there will be a wallet with a small fee
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Is there anything that can help? Now the fee on the blockchain is very high even can penetrate 1 $ or more, anyone can give me a wallet safe and fee is not too expensive. 1 $ in my opinion is very expensive

Usually I'm paying 0.0002 - .0007 BTC on blockchain.info and when I'm paying 0.0007 BTC it's being confirmed very fast. And know I tried to pay 0.0002 & 0.0003 BTC hours later it is still not yet confirmed. Well miners are really choosing those higher fees and the amount depends on the price of bitcoin so it looks higher when converted to dollar. I can't suggest any wallet to you for now, I'm sticking with bc.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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me i dont use low fees anymore because it has likely no chance of confirming i tried to use it before like 60 satoshis per byte and never got confirmed after 2 days it only got confirmed by using viabtc transaction accelerator , if you want cheap and fast transaction check this website it will show what fee is the fastest and cheapest https://bitcoinfees.21.co/
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June 07, 2017, 04:48:33 PM
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Usually I'm paying 0.0002 - .0007 BTC on blockchain.info and when I'm paying 0.0007 BTC it's being confirmed very fast. And know I tried to pay 0.0002 & 0.0003 BTC hours later it is still not yet confirmed.
Yes, that's useless if you use low fees but your transaction never get confirmed. You shouldn't think that's better to leave small fees to get quick confirmation. That's why you shouldn't receive dust transaction because you will need to pay big fees for that.

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June 07, 2017, 04:58:18 PM
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Why are the fees so high now, where there are only 50k unconfirmed transactions? The situation is not like before when we saw more than 200k transactions unconfirmed!

I just checked making a transaction in coinbase and they charge 0.0013 which is really a lot and i assume that is around 500+ satoshis per byte.

The number of unconfirmed transactions is irrelevant..
The only important things is the size and the fee they are paying.

You can have 200 000 tx with 1/2 inputs and you can have 50k with 40 inputs.. that would actually mean a 5 times longer queue.

I saw yesterday a block that was filled up with just 200 transactions
https://blockchain.info/en/block-index/1511664

And what really pissed me off was this:
https://blockchain.info/en/tx/6e36de5e895d4c48241b562c14381cc40311f4e436fa4cb75604f3954a88e837

Well at least it has paid ~4 USD in fees even though it is a large transaction size, but about coinbase usually the transaction size is very small as it is only 1 or 2 inputs so the size doesn't go more than 300-400 bytes.

But the fact that surprises me is that why they have increased so much the fees when there isn't needed nor we can decide how much can we put in fees (maybe this would make more trouble and more delays)
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June 07, 2017, 06:54:33 PM
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Usually I'm paying 0.0002 - .0007 BTC on blockchain.info and when I'm paying 0.0007 BTC it's being confirmed very fast. And know I tried to pay 0.0002 & 0.0003 BTC hours later it is still not yet confirmed.
Yes, that's useless if you use low fees but your transaction never get confirmed. You shouldn't think that's better to leave small fees to get quick confirmation. That's why you shouldn't receive dust transaction because you will need to pay big fees for that.

I don't have an idea if it's confirmed for almost 8 hours I've been waiting and finally it has confirmed. Well you will lose a lot and you will only pay for the transaction fee if you have smaller value of bitcoin to send. At this range of paying 128-153/sat is already good for me, since I can wait for hours before it can be confirmed.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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never used low fees , its risky i used this once and received my payment on 7 hours , ijm always use standard-high fees due its fast confirmation , i dont recommend if you use high fees for low amount transaction since its worthless..  Embarrassed

These days I think it would be crazy to use a fee lower than the standard, if not higher.  Almost all TX's that I have incoming or outgoing I watch on blockcypher.  It is an interesting approach the site has by giving the normal info and adding in the miner preference and a few more nice little points of data that are very cool.  The more and more that people learn about Bitcoin, the more that I distrust a low fee too.  
Yes exactly, I think one should use the standard fee to confirm a transaction as soon as possible. I have seen many people choosing the low fee and then wait for days and weeks to confirm their transactions. I personally like my transaction to confirm immediately or with in a less time so I prefer to choose high fee transaction. I guess almost all the transactions you made you have the option to pick for the fee of your choice and it is understood that who pays more will be preferred.

Fortunately many people are coming here in this forum to help us with unconfirmed transactions. I recently checked an offer which is dealing with antpool mining services which will confirmations regardless of how much transaction fees we will be including. It seems we may still go for lower fees too.
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June 07, 2017, 07:03:51 PM
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Blockchain.info wallet implemented "priority" and "regular" fee. Last night I sent $200 worth with $8 fee and it got confirmed in 1.5 hrs.
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June 07, 2017, 07:58:34 PM
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Blockchain.info wallet implemented "priority" and "regular" fee. Last night I sent $200 worth with $8 fee and it got confirmed in 1.5 hrs.

Do you think it's fair with the transaction you did with them? $8 fee is a very big amount and 1.5 hours isn't that fast with that fee.

I will guess that it is a priority fee, I've been using blockchain.info with their regular and recommended fee.

I haven't tried to adjust the fees and there's no problem to me, it's not even getting delayed for so many hours just like others are complaining.

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Blockchain.info wallet implemented "priority" and "regular" fee. Last night I sent $200 worth with $8 fee and it got confirmed in 1.5 hrs.

Do you think it's fair with the transaction you did with them? $8 fee is a very big amount and 1.5 hours isn't that fast with that fee.

I will guess that it is a priority fee, I've been using blockchain.info with their regular and recommended fee.

I haven't tried to adjust the fees and there's no problem to me, it's not even getting delayed for so many hours just like others are complaining.
honsastly i think there is no point in paying high fees, you should only pay fees if you really need your transaction to get faster otherwise you are wasting your money, because reight now everyone is paying fees which means all transactions have the same priority so it is going to take the same time for them to preocess it as if we did pay regural fees
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June 07, 2017, 09:27:28 PM
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Yesterday i sent the bitcoins with 100 sat / kb transaction and used viabtc accelerator and withing some time my transaction got confirmed so it is clear that if you use this way then you dont have to pay high transaction fees.
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June 08, 2017, 04:13:27 AM
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me i dont use low fees anymore because it has likely no chance of confirming i tried to use it before like 60 satoshis per byte and never got confirmed after 2 days it only got confirmed by using viabtc transaction accelerator , if you want cheap and fast transaction check this website it will show what fee is the fastest and cheapest https://bitcoinfees.21.co/
Oh. I use Bitcoin with low fees and I don’t have any issues with it. I think that the people that use high transaction fees don’t really know how to use Bitcoin because the people sending the coin should not have to spend over a dollar for an amount that is less than a dollar. Transactions should only be $0.20 or so, I don’t spend Bitcoin that much so I don’t really know why people need the money within 2 minutes.

 
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June 08, 2017, 04:15:23 AM
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Blockchain.info wallet implemented "priority" and "regular" fee. Last night I sent $200 worth with $8 fee and it got confirmed in 1.5 hrs.

Do you think it's fair with the transaction you did with them? $8 fee is a very big amount and 1.5 hours isn't that fast with that fee.

I will guess that it is a priority fee, I've been using blockchain.info with their regular and recommended fee.

I haven't tried to adjust the fees and there's no problem to me, it's not even getting delayed for so many hours just like others are complaining.
I am pretty sure that it depends on how fast the person needs the money by because spending a more than a couple of dollars just so another person can get the money is not really a smart thing to do if the person can wait for it. I would spend less than a dollar for the transaction and the transaction would get confirmed within twenty four hours and I don’t have to worry on someone not receiving the money in time.

 
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June 08, 2017, 05:36:30 AM
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Yesterday i sent the bitcoins with 100 sat / kb transaction and used viabtc accelerator and withing some time my transaction got confirmed so it is clear that if you use this way then you dont have to pay high transaction fees.

I do not even care about the transaction fee, I keep using standard fees and wait for confirmation in no hurry. As long as the transaction is not void and still processed smoothly no problem. But thanks for you because I found out new about this btc accelerator.

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June 08, 2017, 05:41:57 AM
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I always go with the 'high' fee to make sure the transactions gets confirmed on the chain fast. I don't like having to potentially wait for weeks like some do when using really low fees. BTC isn't suitable to move very small amounts around, the fees would just be brutal, so when I do move BTC it is usually a fair amount.
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June 08, 2017, 05:47:32 AM
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Yesterday i sent the bitcoins with 100 sat / kb transaction and used viabtc accelerator and withing some time my transaction got confirmed so it is clear that if you use this way then you dont have to pay high transaction fees.

I do not even care about the transaction fee, I keep using standard fees and wait for confirmation in no hurry. As long as the transaction is not void and still processed smoothly no problem. But thanks for you because I found out new about this btc accelerator.
Transaction accelerator service began during the past price jump which caused a big number of around 90000 transactions getting stuck to the network. As mentioned I too prefer the fee structured by the wallet, so that no need to worry about confirmation and other issues. It gets confirmed at the right time.

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June 08, 2017, 05:51:04 AM
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Blockchain.info wallet implemented "priority" and "regular" fee. Last night I sent $200 worth with $8 fee and it got confirmed in 1.5 hrs.

Do you think it's fair with the transaction you did with them? $8 fee is a very big amount and 1.5 hours isn't that fast with that fee.

I will guess that it is a priority fee, I've been using blockchain.info with their regular and recommended fee.

I haven't tried to adjust the fees and there's no problem to me, it's not even getting delayed for so many hours just like others are complaining.
honsastly i think there is no point in paying high fees, you should only pay fees if you really need your transaction to get faster otherwise you are wasting your money, because reight now everyone is paying fees which means all transactions have the same priority so it is going to take the same time for them to preocess it as if we did pay regural fees
Bitcoin transaction fees mainly on blockchain are a big problem in the ecosystem right now. Things only get worse when a wallet recommends paying $8 or more. We should discover another bitcoin wallet instead of bockchain. One of the best features that allows multiple sends at once, most of ppl use this wallet but they was removed it.
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June 08, 2017, 05:56:58 AM
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No, I always use high fees whenever i do transaction. I don't want to wait for a long hours to confirm. If i need my money i will be able to get my money in time.

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June 08, 2017, 05:58:11 AM
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Blockchain.info wallet implemented "priority" and "regular" fee. Last night I sent $200 worth with $8 fee and it got confirmed in 1.5 hrs.

Do you think it's fair with the transaction you did with them? $8 fee is a very big amount and 1.5 hours isn't that fast with that fee.

I will guess that it is a priority fee, I've been using blockchain.info with their regular and recommended fee.

I haven't tried to adjust the fees and there's no problem to me, it's not even getting delayed for so many hours just like others are complaining.
honsastly i think there is no point in paying high fees, you should only pay fees if you really need your transaction to get faster otherwise you are wasting your money, because reight now everyone is paying fees which means all transactions have the same priority so it is going to take the same time for them to preocess it as if we did pay regural fees
Bitcoin transaction fees mainly on blockchain are a big problem in the ecosystem right now. Things only get worse when a wallet recommends paying $8 or more. We should discover another bitcoin wallet instead of bockchain. One of the best features that allows multiple sends at once, most of ppl use this wallet but they was removed it.
Because blockchain is the one wallet who confirms lots of transactions, and this previous month they do not predict that the value of bitcoin would increase like a skyrocket then more users starting to exchange their coin to fiat or other is transferring their fund in their wallet then the bulk of transaction may be pending or uncomfirmed.
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June 08, 2017, 06:03:35 AM
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This is really the problem of blockchain transactions with using high fees or low fees. Whatever users will be use hope this will resolved or revised soonest. Or maybe there is another wallet to be use that offer nice system.
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I always use high transaction fee, to be quickly confirmed to my bitcoin wallet. Because now these unconfirmed transactions on blockchain are still around 50k tx.
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June 08, 2017, 06:16:52 AM
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Blockchain.info wallet implemented "priority" and "regular" fee. Last night I sent $200 worth with $8 fee and it got confirmed in 1.5 hrs.

Do you think it's fair with the transaction you did with them? $8 fee is a very big amount and 1.5 hours isn't that fast with that fee.

I will guess that it is a priority fee, I've been using blockchain.info with their regular and recommended fee.

I haven't tried to adjust the fees and there's no problem to me, it's not even getting delayed for so many hours just like others are complaining.
I am pretty sure that it depends on how fast the person needs the money by because spending a more than a couple of dollars just so another person can get the money is not really a smart thing to do if the person can wait for it. I would spend less than a dollar for the transaction and the transaction would get confirmed within twenty four hours and I don’t have to worry on someone not receiving the money in time.


To be honest, have to agree that 4% fee for that amount of money is very expensive for 1.5 hours! Western Union and Paypal get it there in a minute for almost the same fee, actually, less... I don't mind 24 hours or even 72 hours when I get payment. But it's too bad some sites have expiry on deposit time.

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June 08, 2017, 11:51:46 AM
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Well im not using big fees at all, all my transactions has been made with 50-65k satoshis those are taking a few more hours then the usual time when there werent the delays at the blockchain, since im not in rush to get and make the transactions i can wait, but doesnt make sense to pay a premium fee to make my transactions.
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Blockchain.info wallet implemented "priority" and "regular" fee. Last night I sent $200 worth with $8 fee and it got confirmed in 1.5 hrs.

Do you think it's fair with the transaction you did with them? $8 fee is a very big amount and 1.5 hours isn't that fast with that fee.

I will guess that it is a priority fee, I've been using blockchain.info with their regular and recommended fee.

I haven't tried to adjust the fees and there's no problem to me, it's not even getting delayed for so many hours just like others are complaining.
I am pretty sure that it depends on how fast the person needs the money by because spending a more than a couple of dollars just so another person can get the money is not really a smart thing to do if the person can wait for it. I would spend less than a dollar for the transaction and the transaction would get confirmed within twenty four hours and I don’t have to worry on someone not receiving the money in time.


To be honest, have to agree that 4% fee for that amount of money is very expensive for 1.5 hours! Western Union and Paypal get it there in a minute for almost the same fee, actually, less... I don't mind 24 hours or even 72 hours when I get payment. But it's too bad some sites have expiry on deposit time.

Yezzir. It's cool to send a snail fee when I'm moving money between wallets, but if I have to pay a time sensitive address nowadays, I'm too scared not to max out the fees; the risk of having it confirm too late, and the PITA that is trying to explain to support what happened to your bitcoin payment Wink same with moving money between exchanges, now a days I'm pretty much gonna convert it to Doge or LTC, just to ensure timely receipt (let me tell you about another PITA, watching the price sink while waiting for confirmations at an exchange Wink )
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June 08, 2017, 12:03:01 PM
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You have to use high fees or your transaction won't get confirmations or there is another chanse, you need to have access on f2pool's or other pool's transaction accelerator or have to be a big miner or so luckier to add transaction in viabtc which is very difficult now because it's already limited instantly.
Fees are low only when you send high amount of bitcoins, on another hand currently low fees are words what wr know from past.

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June 08, 2017, 12:08:47 PM
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For me it depends what I do, if I'm sending a small amount then I use low fees, if I'm sending a large amount I tend to use higher fees.

It obviously depends more than just on the raw amount, some purchases are time sensitive so it really depends on what I intend to do with that money but I'm not wasteful so unless I need it fast I use lower fees.

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June 08, 2017, 12:17:55 PM
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I'm using transactions with low fees only and mostly with NO fees. In my own experience on my online wallet, even with no fees, the transactions will only need half a day to be successful. I'm not in a hurry anyway. But I think it still depends n the urgency of need. If I urgently need to send the bitcoin, I wouldn't mind even if I will pay a high fee on a reasonable price.
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June 08, 2017, 12:24:36 PM
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For me it depends what I do, if I'm sending a small amount then I use low fees, if I'm sending a large amount I tend to use higher fees.

It obviously depends more than just on the raw amount, some purchases are time sensitive so it really depends on what I intend to do with that money but I'm not wasteful so unless I need it fast I use lower fees.

Default minimum network fees for the transaction has been increased to 0.0009 btc for a each transaction in online wallets such as Coinbase, block chain and etc... Even localbitcoins wallet transaction fees has been increased.
Now, I move to mycelium for making transaction rapidly and for saving I am using block chain wallet.
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June 08, 2017, 12:32:56 PM
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Well im not using big fees at all, all my transactions has been made with 50-65k satoshis those are taking a few more hours then the usual time when there werent the delays at the blockchain, since im not in rush to get and make the transactions i can wait, but doesnt make sense to pay a premium fee to make my transactions.

It is the second to the highest of the transaction fee if I'm not wrong, because the transaction fee is depends on the wallet that you are using. I'm using Electrum wallet and the transaction fee that I'm paying is 0.002 if I'm not wrong, and if you are paying high amount of transaction fee, then expect that you are going to have fast transaction, that is why I'd prefer to pay high than the other way around just to have convenient transaction.

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Well im not using big fees at all, all my transactions has been made with 50-65k satoshis those are taking a few more hours then the usual time when there werent the delays at the blockchain, since im not in rush to get and make the transactions i can wait, but doesnt make sense to pay a premium fee to make my transactions.
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Well im not using big fees at all, all my transactions has been made with 50-65k satoshis those are taking a few more hours then the usual time when there werent the delays at the blockchain, since im not in rush to get and make the transactions i can wait, but doesnt make sense to pay a premium fee to make my transactions.

In my opinion 50k satoshi fees are already high. If you refer to a transaction last few months ago that might only around minutes to be confirmed. I think that this is becoming a crisis already. Merchants will get bankrupt if this continues and became more worse
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Well im not using big fees at all, all my transactions has been made with 50-65k satoshis those are taking a few more hours then the usual time when there werent the delays at the blockchain, since im not in rush to get and make the transactions i can wait, but doesnt make sense to pay a premium fee to make my transactions.
I would aslo prefer to use low fees even if it takes a long time because since I don't need that money immediately. Compared in recent fees today is much higher and I think it is because of the hiking price of bitcoin.



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June 08, 2017, 02:18:02 PM
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Well although am not using high fees because the fact is i'm using my poloniex account to send some BTC. Upon as what am using poloniex is becuase they just have small fees (10k sats). And the best is it's too easy and not taking too long to confirmed it.
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there is a big different before bitcoin price was pretty high currently i have to think about the fees too because to get fast confirmations i have to spend more bitcoin indeed that was very burdensome but as the bitcoiners i have to accept this however some people recommend for the current fees might be not less than 200 sat/B

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June 08, 2017, 03:21:58 PM
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Sometimes when I withdraw BTC to my wallet, I set really low fees like 50-70 satoshi per byte and wait for weeks, because I'm not going to spend those coins in the near future anyway. I think it's a good way to save a bit of money, because if you look back, you might realize that your fees have added up to a big amount in USD value, while it wasn't always necessary to get those coins confirmed asap.
So, do you use low fees, or always want to get confirmation in a next few blocks?

For this particular transaction, https://blockchain.info/tx/c7c8fcfe061cb44a2c44de54a055862c8e97c3f7a7184f3087bed74e18c5d328

Blockchain recommended a fee of 0.0038, I just sent it with 47 sat/B and got it confirmed with ViaBTC within couple of hours. If it is not an emergency transaction, using a fee of 0.0002 BTC is enough to get it confirmed eventually.

Now the current situation has forced some wallets and exchanges to setup a fixed minimum or standard fee, up to 0.003, equivalent of $8, users who want to withdraw small amounts would not agree with these fees . Kraken has just increased their fee to 0.0025 and now I have altogether stopped using Xapo. Glad there are still exchanges in India with a fixed fee of 0.0005 and fast confirmations.
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June 08, 2017, 03:28:42 PM
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No I am using Blockchain wallet, and its fees aren't low, it is somehow high , but I am ok with it because the transaction get confirmed in short amount of time , so no problem even if the fee is high.
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June 08, 2017, 03:43:42 PM
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Unless I really do not want to use the money soon, because currently with something below 100s/b you won't get confirmed in a while (and few days ago, never), and the TX might even get cleared and then you need to rebroadcast it, I mean unless it's absolutely cold storage, that's not a good idea.
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June 08, 2017, 03:48:39 PM
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Yes, I am using low fee, because I usually send a small amount of Bitcoin so that paying 1$ just for sending 5$ is something really weird.
I know miners have to take fees to earn their living but I have no choice so that I have to send Bitcoin with low fee
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June 08, 2017, 03:53:26 PM
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Well im not using big fees at all, all my transactions has been made with 50-65k satoshis those are taking a few more hours then the usual time when there werent the delays at the blockchain, since im not in rush to get and make the transactions i can wait, but doesnt make sense to pay a premium fee to make my transactions.

In my opinion 50k satoshi fees are already high. If you refer to a transaction last few months ago that might only around minutes to be confirmed. I think that this is becoming a crisis already. Merchants will get bankrupt if this continues and became more worse
Now, 50k satoshi fees is not good if you want get confirm fast after 5 blocks, my setting fee always from 200 sat/byte
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June 08, 2017, 04:16:06 PM
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I am using low fee because as normal, It does not effect to my transactions, it is still confirmable.
But when I send a bigger amount of Bitcoin, I usually use a bigger fee because I need to make sure that my transactions are confirmed well.
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June 08, 2017, 04:28:45 PM
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Sometimes when I withdraw BTC to my wallet, I set really low fees like 50-70 satoshi per byte and wait for weeks, because I'm not going to spend those coins in the near future anyway. I think it's a good way to save a bit of money, because if you look back, you might realize that your fees have added up to a big amount in USD value, while it wasn't always necessary to get those coins confirmed asap.
So, do you use low fees, or always want to get confirmation in a next few blocks?
As long as your bitcoin received than it doesn't matter. I don't use small fees, just a sufficient amount to get my transaction confirmed but normal fees still have to wait for several days due too many unconfirmed transaction on waiting list. Well, I don't mind to pay 120-200 satoshi per byte, but some people suggest to increase fees until 220 satoshi.
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June 08, 2017, 04:38:54 PM
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Last time I used normal fees was quite long ago. In the last few months, I always use fees hefty enough for next block confirmation, mainly because when I spend Bitcoins, I spend them to buy something and next block confirmation are always welcome in these cases.
I get the point that the fees have a different time lapse in terms of its price so if you want your transaction to be fast you need to choose on a much high fee but if you did not need for a much faster money you can choose to pay a low price fee. And for me I suggest to make your transaction less but more capacity because in this at you can lessen the fee in a more faster transaction.

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June 08, 2017, 04:41:25 PM
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I don't know, as I am using Poloniex Bitcoin wallet so that Bitcoin fee is always the same everytime I send Bitcoin.
And I think using a wallet that enable you to send a fixed fee is better, you don't need to worry about your transactions
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June 08, 2017, 04:52:38 PM
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No, I am not using low fees, most of my payment are to send big amount of bitcoin so that I need to make sure my transaction is ok.
Moreover, sending a big amount of fees can keep miners continue on their works that keeps Bitcoin work well
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June 08, 2017, 04:55:21 PM
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Currently using the lowest fee possible to transfers my bitcoins within the next 1-6 blocks. Due to the price of bitcoin right now, I'm more conservative into checking thinga and the fees that I'm inputting. Also, it would be a pain in the arse if you keep in waiting for a transaction only for it to be dropped by the network because of insanely low fees.

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June 08, 2017, 09:43:03 PM
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Blockchain.info wallet implemented "priority" and "regular" fee. Last night I sent $200 worth with $8 fee and it got confirmed in 1.5 hrs.

Do you think it's fair with the transaction you did with them? $8 fee is a very big amount and 1.5 hours isn't that fast with that fee.

I will guess that it is a priority fee, I've been using blockchain.info with their regular and recommended fee.

I haven't tried to adjust the fees and there's no problem to me, it's not even getting delayed for so many hours just like others are complaining.
honsastly i think there is no point in paying high fees, you should only pay fees if you really need your transaction to get faster otherwise you are wasting your money, because reight now everyone is paying fees which means all transactions have the same priority so it is going to take the same time for them to preocess it as if we did pay regural fees

Well most of us wants a fast transaction but that's a good point, if you are not rushing to receive those bitcoins just use the normal fee.

The fees now are getting higher and higher and the exchange are adjusting it to increased amount, I don't understand this.

But if you are calm and you can wait it's your decision to increase or not your fees.

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June 08, 2017, 09:50:06 PM
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As I have notice except the free online service of ViaBTC and the 'delay' column of bitcoinfees.21.co in weekends the unconfirmed transactions are less than the rest days of the week. Therefore, the fees are significantly lower and I prefer weekends for this reason. 
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Low fees all the way. Else I feel like throwing money away, and I'm the one feeling like garbage after!

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June 08, 2017, 11:19:16 PM
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As I have notice except the free online service of ViaBTC and the 'delay' column of bitcoinfees.21.co in weekends the unconfirmed transactions are less than the rest days of the week. Therefore, the fees are significantly lower and I prefer weekends for this reason. 
Haven't noticed that, maybe because I don't move my coins that much these days. (but I'd keep it in mind and check it out)

Never gone anywhere below 250 per byte since the year started. Last year I think the lowest I went was maybe 180/byte.

When I need a quick confirmation, I aim for bitcoinfees21's cheapest and fastest, at whichever has the lowest unconfirmed tx's.
When a tx is not urgent, then it's usually at the 250-300/byte range (the lowest of the yellow bars.never the orange ones. ^^)
When I make a mistake calculating my tx size and it ends up on the 10-20 blocks range, then I use the accelerator. It usually works.

Why pay the high fees even if I could wait days? Because I don't like my transactions(money/btc) stuck. They could be in wallets, storage, or even in cash, but never stuck in between.

And yeah, sometimes I feel it's a waste, but still.




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June 09, 2017, 01:36:07 AM
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Sometimes when I withdraw BTC to my wallet, I set really low fees like 50-70 satoshi per byte and wait for weeks, because I'm not going to spend those coins in the near future anyway. I think it's a good way to save a bit of money, because if you look back, you might realize that your fees have added up to a big amount in USD value, while it wasn't always necessary to get those coins confirmed asap.
So, do you use low fees, or always want to get confirmation in a next few blocks?
It depends, there are things that need a fast confirmation because if you don’t get confirmed then you need to contact support and then tell them that it took longer than expected, since I prefer to avoid all that, most of the time I send a good enough fee, but when it does not matter if it takes a short amount of time or a long one then I send with a small fee.
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June 09, 2017, 01:43:26 AM
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No, low fees won't get you anywhere today. The mempool is huge and low fees will maybe take days to confirm. I use 488/byte. This is the fastest and most economical rate at the moment.
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Unbelievable, this topic is always in the top, which shows that it is always of interest and discussion. It seems people are very concerned about the wallet of the bitcoin deal, it is a matter of urgency for people to overcharge transactions while transactions are slow. However, for business people, we should prioritize the speed of transactions, so we should use a reasonable fee.





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June 09, 2017, 12:31:42 PM
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Sometimes when I withdraw BTC to my wallet, I set really low fees like 50-70 satoshi per byte and wait for weeks, because I'm not going to spend those coins in the near future anyway. I think it's a good way to save a bit of money, because if you look back, you might realize that your fees have added up to a big amount in USD value, while it wasn't always necessary to get those coins confirmed asap.
So, do you use low fees, or always want to get confirmation in a next few blocks?

It's depend on urgency level, if transaction is very urgent i will use higher fee otherwise i will use small fee if i wanna transfer btc to my another wallet
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June 09, 2017, 07:06:57 PM
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I actually go for medium fees because I'm willing to wait but I'm not willing to wait for a really long time. When you choose low fees, be ready to wait for days before your transaction gets confirmed. When you choose high fees, you'd receive your money in between a couple of minutes to a couple of hours. I don't really need the money that urgently.

I tried low fees back then and it took me days. I thought what's going to happen if the coin is just there, stuck. But there's no worries after all because you can rebroadcast the transaction or add a transaction fee to it. If you're going to add fee in the end, might as well add that fee at the start instead so I always pick the medium fee.
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June 09, 2017, 07:33:01 PM
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Looks like currently a fee of $0.41 gets you in the next block for a transaction matching the median size. The wallets are still recommending high fees, presumably because they burnt their fingers when they calculated too low fees recently. Now they are over-cautious or simply slow to adapt
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June 09, 2017, 08:21:16 PM
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No I wouldn't be able to use low fees in the least to be able to get anything done in a reasonable amount of time, it already takes a good amount of time to confirm a  transaction when you're paying a disgusting amount of money which could be an average / up to $3.00  for one TX, which is already annoying, takes around 15mins to go ahead and confirm. Imagine if you'd be trying to use a low fee, this would take days to confirm OR IT COULD NEVER CONFIRM.

Don't get me wrong, I suppose I could do this on a TX where it doesn't really matter how lt takes to be able to get the product or service--but sadly out of convenience I'd be paying a high amount for something I could get free with my credit / debit card.

So, no I'm not using low fees and I really do pray that one-day we get a scaling solution that's going to help and get these dam fees down.

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June 09, 2017, 08:55:29 PM
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Low fees all the way. Else I feel like throwing money away, and I'm the one feeling like garbage after!

For me I consider even 1$ as a low fee and so it depends on each individual and what they deem high or low. I'm currently spending under 1$ for medium size transaction to get confirmed within the next block and I'm ok with it.
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June 09, 2017, 09:15:03 PM
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Low fees all the way. Else I feel like throwing money away, and I'm the one feeling like garbage after!

For me I consider even 1$ as a low fee and so it depends on each individual and what they deem high or low. I'm currently spending under 1$ for medium size transaction to get confirmed within the next block and I'm ok with it.
Me its been to high because on blockchain wallet are very big fee its only 1$ i think some 1-2$ per transaction. That is not good and if you send a big amount the fee is also big so i think that fee are so ridiculous.
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June 09, 2017, 10:12:57 PM
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We really need to find a solution for this high fee otherwise people will start dropping off bitcoin, and switch to other cryptocurrency, many bussiness which uses transactions on a daily basis are closing some of the gmabling sites are shutting down and trading has become unworthy, i suggest that high transaction fees should only be for poeple who are in a hurry who want thier transaction to be sent instantly, because for personal use and for someone who does not earn that much having high fees cut out from mu balance is somthing really bad.
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I'm not using low fees anymore as it would take days to confirm transactions. I have some friends that took at least a week before the transaction was confirmed. I usually use medium transaction fees but when i need it urgent i have no choice for high transaction fees.

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June 09, 2017, 11:55:32 PM
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Sometimes when I withdraw BTC to my wallet, I set really low fees like 50-70 satoshi per byte and wait for weeks, because I'm not going to spend those coins in the near future anyway. I think it's a good way to save a bit of money, because if you look back, you might realize that your fees have added up to a big amount in USD value, while it wasn't always necessary to get those coins confirmed asap.
So, do you use low fees, or always want to get confirmation in a next few blocks?

Setting low fees doesn't mean you are going to get a confirmation within weeks. You may not get a confirmation at all. That's the danger of setting a low fee. You cannot be sure whether or not you will even ever be able to spend that transaction or not.

If after a few weeks no pool confirms your transaction(extremely likely since they don't want to waste block space on such a low amount of fees), then you have to use a transaction accelerator. That would mean that you will be paying way more than if you just paid your fair share of fees in the first place.

At least do like 150sats/byte. That's the lowest you can go imo to get a transaction confirmed within a day at the moment.

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June 10, 2017, 12:56:25 AM
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Currently using the lowest fee possible to transfers my bitcoins within the next 1-6 blocks. Due to the price of bitcoin right now, I'm more conservative into checking thinga and the fees that I'm inputting. Also, it would be a pain in the arse if you keep in waiting for a transaction only for it to be dropped by the network because of insanely low fees.
There’s nothing wrong with that, I use a small fee while sending a Bitcoin transaction and the whole thing gets multiple confirmations within 5 hours or really close to it. If I wanted to get my transactions approved faster than I would send my transactions with a high fee.

 
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I don't know, as I am using Poloniex Bitcoin wallet so that Bitcoin fee is always the same everytime I send Bitcoin.
And I think using a wallet that enable you to send a fixed fee is better, you don't need to worry about your transactions
Poloniex usually uses a very high fee because they want the receiver to get the money in a very fast manner.
I usually don’t like to spend my coin online though when I send the coin to somebody with a Bitcoin address then I would send it with a very low transaction fee.

 
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Im not using low fees, wallets that use low fees I think are low on security and I only send and transact BCT in larger amounts. Sometimes Im converting BTC to fiat and then send it as a fiat to avoid such fees. I hope that we will fixed these "FEES" problem because it is highway robbery just like the internet, if it will work these way then what is our difference in fiats in the real word?
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i go for middling fees. i'm not convinced fees that low will ever confirm with things the way there are these days. if i'm buying something then i go for relatively high because i don't want to be waiting around.
Exactly because if you to get something that you buy you should pay high fee for the fast transaction but if you used low fees you will for a long time before you receive it.

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Yes I am using low fees for transactions that sends a small amount of Bitcoin because I thing sepending a big fee just to send a little Bitcoin is something very weird
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Yes I am using low fees for transactions that sends a small amount of Bitcoin because I thing sepending a big fee just to send a little Bitcoin is something very weird

You cannot use low fees for any transactions you do nowadays as your transaction will have a really big risk of never getting confirmed in the network. You should always use the recommended fee or just a bit lower so your transaction will confirm.

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Yes I am using low fees for transactions that sends a small amount of Bitcoin because I thing sepending a big fee just to send a little Bitcoin is something very weird
You should not use low fees for any transaction because it make your transaction easy to be forgotten, your transaction may never be confirmed
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I use the middle fees, it enable my transactions to be confirmed in a safe way, not so fast but it still can be confirmed Smiley
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June 10, 2017, 03:35:29 PM
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Not always the lowest fee for transferring money is a guarantee that you will not get your money. Until recently, XAPO does not charge a fee for the transfer and I have never had a problem. I now choose low cost for the transfer and it allows me to save. I have no problem to wait for some time and thus to reduce the fee for the payment.
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I use the middle fees, it enable my transactions to be confirmed in a safe way, not so fast but it still can be confirmed Smiley
That's clever, I used to use small fee so that some transactions can not be confirmed, I think I should change my mind now
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No, I have never used low fees because I do not want my transaction to be forgotten,I just want my money safe so that I choose using high fees for every transactions
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I use the middle fees, it enable my transactions to be confirmed in a safe way, not so fast but it still can be confirmed Smiley
That's clever, I used to use small fee so that some transactions can not be confirmed, I think I should change my mind now

I would not mind using a low transaction fee. But this will do me a very long wait. That's why I also use the average commission. But even with this option, sometimes you have to wait a long time
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I use the middle fees, it enable my transactions to be confirmed in a safe way, not so fast but it still can be confirmed Smiley
That's clever, I used to use small fee so that some transactions can not be confirmed, I think I should change my mind now

I would not mind using a low transaction fee. But this will do me a very long wait. That's why I also use the average commission. But even with this option, sometimes you have to wait a long time
Me too, It is not only make sure that our transaction will be confirmed but also make us fell comfortable for not being waited for a long time to get confirmed
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No, I don't, I always use high fees for my transactions so that I don't need to wait a long time to get my transaction confirmed
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Sometimes when I withdraw BTC to my wallet, I set really low fees like 50-70 satoshi per byte and wait for weeks, because I'm not going to spend those coins in the near future anyway. I think it's a good way to save a bit of money, because if you look back, you might realize that your fees have added up to a big amount in USD value, while it wasn't always necessary to get those coins confirmed asap.
So, do you use low fees, or always want to get confirmation in a next few blocks?

I used medium fees but lately it's now decent high, 100,000-150,000 satoshis is too much for a fees. That is $2 on USD value. To minimize the cost, I always transfer in bulk. But Im considering using low fees now but not to wait for 2 or 3 weeks. Id rather pay for 1 to 2 days than weeks eventhough Im not using my bitcoin.

You never know what will happen so it's good be ready. We can earned the lost money but for the needs, we must be ready anytime.
I also preffer on choosing the medium fee because if I will look a the time lapse of every transaction I can see that most of transaction have the same mode or time of delivery. For me it's better to manage every transaction so whenever the time you made transaction you can lessen the fees because you can have big transaction at a time. And also make your choice dependent on your needs so you can choose to take a low fees.
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Well, I tried my luck with a low fee (~9 Sat/byte) a few weeks ago on a small transaction. Now I'm stuck with an unconfirmed and dusty transaction. Ugh! Trying to figure out how to get it unstuck is taking more time than the money was worth.

In future, I will be sticking with recommended fees. You never know when the low fee will bite you.

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Yes I am using low fees for transactions that sends a small amount of Bitcoin because I thing sepending a big fee just to send a little Bitcoin is something very weird

If you have no problem waiting then I think it makes no sense to spend huge sums on small transactions, but there are pressing demands that needs you to send small transactions and you might be looking for quicker confirmations(i.e. renewing your cost); in such situations paying high fees becomes inevitable.
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In the past, when I was using Coinbase and Xapo, I do not need to care much about Bitcoin fee but now I am using Electrum, I usually use medium fee so that I can make sure that my transaction is still confirmable
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I am waiting on the day when a client sends us a payment with a lower than usual fee and after the TX gets ignored on the blockchain for several hours, they try to double spend with a higher fee.  The fact is that the TX is not confirmed until it is confirmed and I feel better whether sending or receiving getting that transaction done and behind me, even if it cost a little bit more.
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Yes I am using low fees for transactions that sends a small amount of Bitcoin because I thing sepending a big fee just to send a little Bitcoin is something very weird
some exchanges are giving you option to use the transaction fee according to your own wishes but the transaction speed is depending on your transaction fee. while some exchanges have fixed amount for transaction fee and you have pay that fee in any case.

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June 11, 2017, 01:50:44 PM
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Yes I am using low fees for transactions that sends a small amount of Bitcoin because I thing sepending a big fee just to send a little Bitcoin is something very weird
some exchanges are giving you option to use the transaction fee according to your own wishes but the transaction speed is depending on your transaction fee. while some exchanges have fixed amount for transaction fee and you have pay that fee in any case.

Most exchanges are now charging 0.0015 which is enough. I use that amount now. The exchange went from 10k to 20k to 50k and now 150k that is a big leap and with Bitcoin being worth more it's now well over 30x more costly then before. 100x more is not unreachable. Before it was 10k now it's 150k that's already 15x then factor in Bitcoin price and you get 30x 90x easily. Pay more then 0.0015 ntc and you looking at 100x more costly then before.
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Low fees all the way. Else I feel like throwing money away, and I'm the one feeling like garbage after!
Yes, I use the low cost when making a transfer or other transaction as with it the lowest costs and
 the money I could have saved more
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Just hold your bitcoin, try not to send it anywhere until they fix the high fees thing. If you are sending from exchanges it's easy enough to buy ltc or doge and send that instead. With bitcoin fees so high it's made it not very useful. I still don't understand how faucets can send so many micro transactions that are less than the minimum btc fee. I have used the minimum fees with no problems, longest I've had to wait is 2 days, but usually goes through withing a few hours. I think you can soon set your wallet to use a bip148 server, this will strengthen the movement over, and make sure your transactions don't get stuck on the old chain.
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Of course at a low cost, I try to suppress all forms of transactions or travel at a low cost Grin
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It depends on how fast you want your btc going through. But hopefully with the segwit integration in bitcoin this August 2017 things can change with lower fees in transactions.

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Usually I choose to pay small fee, unless it's something urgent. Once I waited over week, but all transactions have been confirmed so far Smiley One interesting thing is, that withdraws from one of the dice services are almost instant (confirmed within 15 minuites) and they have fixed fee = 0,0003 BTC (30k sat).
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Usually I choose to pay small fee, unless it's something urgent. Once I waited over week, but all transactions have been confirmed so far Smiley One interesting thing is, that withdraws from one of the dice services are almost instant (confirmed within 15 minuites) and they have fixed fee = 0,0003 BTC (30k sat).

Most of the times I use to convert bitcoin to some altcoin like doge or ltc or eth which usually takes lower fee and also takes less time to get confirmation. There are many exchanges as well as gambling sites available which support alot of altcoins.
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Usually I choose to pay small fee, unless it's something urgent. Once I waited over week, but all transactions have been confirmed so far Smiley One interesting thing is, that withdraws from one of the dice services are almost instant (confirmed within 15 minuites) and they have fixed fee = 0,0003 BTC (30k sat).

Most of the times I use to convert bitcoin to some altcoin like doge or ltc or eth which usually takes lower fee and also takes less time to get confirmation. There are many exchanges as well as gambling sites available which support alot of altcoins.

Yeah thats cool feature - already seen on some websites, but usually there is some minimum required amount of coins for processing such conversion. If it would work without that limitation and with low conversion fee, that would be great Smiley
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Three months ago, I only need 50 satoshi/kb for make make transactions and it confirm very fast! But now, I need spend 250 sat/kb if I want my transaction confirm fast and this is a big fee for me because the price Bitcoin now very hight
I am still spending the same fees and I rush on to viabtc and submit my transaction, has been working well for me. Though at times the submissions are beyond limit but anyways I  manage to submit my transaction anyhow.
I am not sure if the fees would be a issue anymore as its 100-200 satoshi/byte usually.
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I see that the ideal way for your transfers to be fast is the way to pay intermediate rates and high rates! Today is like this ... unfortunately it is a reality in case you want your shipment to be fast!
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Most of the times I use to convert bitcoin to some altcoin like doge or ltc or eth which usually takes lower fee and also takes less time to get confirmation. There are many exchanges as well as gambling sites available which support alot of altcoins.

Converting your Bitcoins to alts just to save yourself some satoshis isn't really what I consider to be worthwhile. It's not only time consuming, but you'll be subject to the volatility connected to altcoins as well. You just need to include fees based on the priority according to you -- if it doesn't need to confirm directly, you can choose to go with a lower fee, and mostly your transactions get confirmed well within 10 blocks. If you need quick confirmations, then just go with the recommended fee. Don't waste your time on altcoins....
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No, my blckchain.info wallet is offering me around 75sat/b for some reason, so I set it manually to 240 sat/b just to be sure that it's going to get confirmations. I don't mind paying a little higher fees.

Need some spare btc for a new PC that can at least run Adobe Dreamweaver.

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Usually I choose to pay small fee, unless it's something urgent. Once I waited over week, but all transactions have been confirmed so far Smiley One interesting thing is, that withdraws from one of the dice services are almost instant (confirmed within 15 minuites) and they have fixed fee = 0,0003 BTC (30k sat).

Most of the times I use to convert bitcoin to some altcoin like doge or ltc or eth which usually takes lower fee and also takes less time to get confirmation. There are many exchanges as well as gambling sites available which support alot of altcoins.

Yeah thats cool feature - already seen on some websites, but usually there is some minimum required amount of coins for processing such conversion. If it would work without that limitation and with low conversion fee, that would be great Smiley

That is such a time wasting roundabout for saving a few satoshi you are better of just doing a few hours of community service instead.

And you withdraw s*coin2 instead of btc and then you do... what?
Go to another exchange deposit s*coin2 and get btc and... withdraw btc again by paying the fees?

Or are you going to get stuck forever with s*coin2 ?

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The lowest I can, and I don't know what we can expect in future with this fees, if fees continue to rise more then I will stop gambling and sending bitcoins, probably I will start to gamble with some other currency cause I don't wish to pay 5 dollars for one little transaction, that is not normal, and I agree with people who think that this what miner ate doing is just crazy.
Maybe that's why ETH is rising so much, many people are thinking about changing the ship, and that is not a joke if you ask me, what this miners are doing and why, do anyone knows?



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June 11, 2017, 11:19:03 PM
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Yeah I'm also using low fees with 0.0001 BTC withdrawal fees and 60-70 sat/B and its visible pretty good for me, although I do not have many bitcon but I'm not too bothered about withdrawal fees, as long as it's still recommended I think it will be fine.

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June 11, 2017, 11:22:25 PM
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Yeah I'm also using low fees with 0.0001 BTC withdrawal fees and 60-70 sat/B and its visible pretty good for me, although I do not have many bitcon but I'm not too bothered about withdrawal fees, as long as it's still recommended I think it will be fine.

60-70 sats/b? Really a low fees there.

How's the transaction? How long before it can confirmed? You will not say it's pretty good in the first place if it's really not.
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The ATM fees that are charged to process the ATM TX's are the same thing as the network fees for Bitcoin TX's.  The only difference is that the fee's at the ATM can not be set by the user.  That would be interesting, though.  To see an ATM user set a stupidly lower fee than average and stand there and wait four hours for the ATM to spit their money out.  
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No im not using low fees or even the high fees because my wallet its depends on how much I send bitcoin if the bitcoin big for sure the transaction fee is high also. And if this transaction is low they will be low also. But in my other wallet not using to send payout they have option how much fee do you want the minimum transaction fee  is 0.001 and thatsvery big and Im not using it.

 
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I was always use normal fees with my trabsactions and always gets confirmed in 25-30 minutes i dont have problems with it. Probably your transactions doesn't go through because of the blockchain transaction traffic is maybe full in the time that you send it. If a bitcoin scaling solution like segwit and lightning network you can kiss the delays goodbye and the price of bitcoin will soar up dramatically cause bitcoin will be once again able to use micropayments such as buying coffee or pizza and more investors will be interested in investing to it as all the problems has been fixed in crypto currency.

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Hopeless, because it was april when i had sent a transaction with low fees and it took about 2 days for the confirmation so from that time because I learnt the lesson and I won't repeat it again and now i sent only bulk amount only and all amall small transaction will get red signal from my side. As now i am no longer paying low fees so i have no head ache about it and during my last transaction with low fees i was about to die because about 0.5btc stuck in and i was helpless and i had nothing to do with it and i cant even cancel tge transaction and for two days that tension just sucked my blood and i was so angry over bitcoin that I won't use this currency again but now i love it so much.
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Another of my low fee transactions (25sat/byte) got confirmed recently, it took more than 5 weeks, which is fine for me. Maybe I'll test pushing low fee transactions some day, because it looks like a good strategy to save some money - you can send coins to your wallet with very low fees and in case you will need them confirmed, you just add more fees. Pushing transaction probably costs a lot (my Electrum suggested something like 0.006-0.01 BTC for child pays per parent transaction), but most of the time you will be saving money with lower fees, so in the long run this strategy should pay out.

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Most of the times I use to convert bitcoin to some altcoin like doge or ltc or eth
Really? . What do you think if you need your transaction quickly ? Because swap your bitcoin to altcoin is time consuming and you never know the price may crashed suddenly when you try to convert to altcoin also how long your transaction to get confirmed.

Send directly in your wallet and adjust your fee to get quicker confirmation.

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i go for middling fees. i'm not convinced fees that low will ever confirm with things the way there are these days. if i'm buying something then i go for relatively high because i don't want to be waiting around.
Yes, its very irritating to wait for a long time whenever I used low fees. Sometimes I much prefer for a high fees to get as soon as possible what ever things that i buy.

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No im not using low fees or even the high fees because my wallet its depends on how much I send bitcoin if the bitcoin big for sure the transaction fee is high also. And if this transaction is low they will be low also. But in my other wallet not using to send payout they have option how much fee do you want the minimum transaction fee  is 0.001 and thatsvery big and Im not using it.

That is right, why do we need to use those low fees if we want to receive our transactions quickly. And I usually send moderate number of bitcoin, that is why it is okay for me to pay for the fee, I don't usually send small amount, that is bothering, not to me but for the miners.

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June 12, 2017, 05:10:35 AM
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i go for middling fees. i'm not convinced fees that low will ever confirm with things the way there are these days. if i'm buying something then i go for relatively high because i don't want to be waiting around.
Yes, its very irritating to wait for a long time whenever I used low fees. Sometimes I much prefer for a high fees to get as soon as possible what ever things that i buy.

It all depends on the priorities. I usually go with the fees suggested by the exchange or web wallet service providers as I don't do frequent transactions. I am not sure what is the reason but I have observed that even paying the average fees, the transactions are getting confirmed faster than before. I guess that exchanges are clubbing multiple transactions and it results in faster confirmation.
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June 12, 2017, 05:21:24 AM
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Rarely. Low fees its sucks for me, it's make a transaction more possibility's pending. I've done it before, and yeah it's sucks  Sad hmm sometimes depended on every sites, a low fees its working normally. But now, i'm more choosing a medium fees or high, that's better. Cool
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June 12, 2017, 05:42:59 AM
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I used to use very low cost and now the cost has gone up, now I have used Electrum for the transaction can still be confirmed.
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June 12, 2017, 05:49:11 AM
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Most of the times I use to convert bitcoin to some altcoin like doge or ltc or eth
Really? . What do you think if you need your transaction quickly ? Because swap your bitcoin to altcoin is time consuming and you never know the price may crashed suddenly when you try to convert to altcoin also how long your transaction to get confirmed.

Send directly in your wallet and adjust your fee to get quicker confirmation.
If his BTC is all inside the exchangers. I think everything is fine. Though you have pretty silly question  Grin, If he needs his BTC quickly, he simply sends it directly without swapping them because it's basically just an option for him to avoid the overwhelming fee in bitcoin blockchain. Within the time intervals needed for a coin to be swapped and be sent to the targetted wallet, there might be a fluctuation happen, but mostly just a small margin, if he's fine with it, it's ok, though.

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June 12, 2017, 12:08:00 PM
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Another of my low fee transactions (25sat/byte) got confirmed recently, it took more than 5 weeks, which is fine for me. Maybe I'll test pushing low fee transactions some day, because it looks like a good strategy to save some money - you can send coins to your wallet with very low fees and in case you will need them confirmed, you just add more fees. Pushing transaction probably costs a lot (my Electrum suggested something like 0.006-0.01 BTC for child pays per parent transaction), but most of the time you will be saving money with lower fees, so in the long run this strategy should pay out.

Really?
Can you share with us the tx?

Because till now I haven't heard of a transaction that has been in the mempool for more than 10 days without getting dropped.
5 weeks in the pool is a record.

Also I think you missed a 0 there ,
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my Electrum suggested something like 0.006-0.01 BTC for child pays per parent transaction)
, I doubt Electrum charges 30$ for a tx.

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Another of my low fee transactions (25sat/byte) got confirmed recently, it took more than 5 weeks, which is fine for me. Maybe I'll test pushing low fee transactions some day, because it looks like a good strategy to save some money - you can send coins to your wallet with very low fees and in case you will need them confirmed, you just add more fees. Pushing transaction probably costs a lot (my Electrum suggested something like 0.006-0.01 BTC for child pays per parent transaction), but most of the time you will be saving money with lower fees, so in the long run this strategy should pay out.

Really?
Can you share with us the tx?

Because till now I haven't heard of a transaction that has been in the mempool for more than 10 days without getting dropped.
5 weeks in the pool is a record.

Also I think you missed a 0 there ,
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my Electrum suggested something like 0.006-0.01 BTC for child pays per parent transaction)
, I doubt Electrum charges 30$ for a tx.

https://blockchain.info/tx/4518d0bd6f28e718eceec5eb6f995024e56d61d9ede71601c717f83dbfbabceb

Timestamp shows wrong date, it was sent on 2017-05-09.

As for Electrum, it proposes those high fees for child pays for parent transaction, in order to get it confirmed both transactions very quickly.

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June 13, 2017, 02:01:33 AM
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Really depends on the nature of the transaction for me. If I am trying to get it to an exchange in order to execute a trade Ill put high-normal fees on it. But if I am withdrawing to a hardware wallet or sending to a friend and its not urgent Ill put low, to lowest fees I think will make it.
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Since my Transactions are time sensitive so I do use high fees to get fast confirmations .

Your approach is right as Your transactions are not time sensitive you can wait for few weeks to get the confirmations .


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I use it depending on the transaction that I run, big or small.
In the last few months I use a fee to be confirmed, especially I spend bitcoin.
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Am currently using exchanges as my wallet. It pretty much does the job for me. The fee as far as know isn't that a big deal. People adviced me against using exchange, I have no choice unfortunately.
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Sometimes when I withdraw BTC to my wallet, I set really low fees like 50-70 satoshi per byte and wait for weeks, because I'm not going to spend those coins in the near future anyway. I think it's a good way to save a bit of money, because if you look back, you might realize that your fees have added up to a big amount in USD value, while it wasn't always necessary to get those coins confirmed asap.
So, do you use low fees, or always want to get confirmation in a next few blocks?
Here I have things to understand and explain . First of all currently the fee rate got down . About 2 days ago I made a transaction with the low priority from the mysselium wallet and get confirmed in 6 minutes with 1 confirmation like a miracle​/magic  so here I am 100% sure if I can send Bitcoin with the fee 0.0001then it will get confirm soon and it will be about 50-60sat per byte .
Here not only you are using the low fee but a big exchange in my country using the same thing for the fee , they are using 50sat/byte for ownself transaction and get confirmed after month , that is really cool.for them because they don't much need for the speed because they have lot of money but are also savings much money with fee system .
And currently the fee is also down , so we can use to include our transaction in the block easily  but true is that we need to wait for the weeks .

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i go for middling fees. i'm not convinced fees that low will ever confirm with things the way there are these days. if i'm buying something then i go for relatively high because i don't want to be waiting around.
Yes, its very irritating to wait for a long time whenever I used low fees. Sometimes I much prefer for a high fees to get as soon as possible what ever things that i buy.

Most of the times I will choose the highest fee to pay and get confirmation as soon as possible because I don't like waiting for long. But now Bitcoins are no more attractive to send small amount so I stopped using bitcoins for smaller amount transactions. For small amounts, I prefer to use either ETH or DOGE coins. XAPO nowadays charges very high fee compared to blockchain fees.
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Sometimes when I withdraw BTC to my wallet, I set really low fees like 50-70 satoshi per byte and wait for weeks, because I'm not going to spend those coins in the near future anyway. I think it's a good way to save a bit of money, because if you look back, you might realize that your fees have added up to a big amount in USD value, while it wasn't always necessary to get those coins confirmed asap.
So, do you use low fees, or always want to get confirmation in a next few blocks?
Yes i am using low fees.
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Sometimes when I withdraw BTC to my wallet, I set really low fees like 50-70 satoshi per byte and wait for weeks, because I'm not going to spend those coins in the near future anyway. I think it's a good way to save a bit of money, because if you look back, you might realize that your fees have added up to a big amount in USD value, while it wasn't always necessary to get those coins confirmed asap.
So, do you use low fees, or always want to get confirmation in a next few blocks?
Yes, I used low fees before when I first do transaction to withdraw my bitcoin using electrum wallet then I set it to the lowest fees
Since by that time I had no idea about it  before I received my bitcoin it takes 3days.
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The exchanges I use don't give me the option but on the odd occasion I do make a transfer generally its one I can wait some time for so I use low fees.
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Yesterday I sent tx with 34 sat/B and it is 2KB in size and it is still unconfirmed.
Will blockchain.info cancel transaction after some time? I know there is no chance it will be included in block since it's so large.

As I understand this, blockchain.info will undo transaction once nodes stop to broadcast it.

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Last time I used normal fees was quite long ago. In the last few months, I always use fees hefty enough for next block confirmation, mainly because when I spend Bitcoins, I spend them to buy something and next block confirmation are always welcome in these cases.
Using low fees will only gives us a problem  because  of being delay in the transaction that
 we are going to do. So right now, since I learn from my mistakes but of course I now I set it to highes fees so that it will
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Using low fees will only gives us a problem  because  of being delay in the transaction that
 we are going to do. So right now, since I learn from my mistakes but of course I now I set it to highes fees so that it will
be fast.
It is really not a problem if you would not use it right away like OP said but the definition of low fee now can be considered high in the old days. I personally use low fees to transfer bitcoin when I am not in the hurry. Setting it to the highest fee is not always the solution though for a slow transaction. Sometimes, a 0.0005 BTC or 0.001 BTC fee is enough to get transactions confirmed in no time.
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I have used low fees without many problems, sometimes to my surprise the transaction gets confirmed within a short period, some others I've had to wait days for them to confirm. On a couple of occasions after waiting forever, the tx were discarded by the network and the bitcoin returned to my wallet.
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I have used low fees without many problems, sometimes to my surprise the transaction gets confirmed within a short period, some others I've had to wait days for them to confirm. On a couple of occasions after waiting forever, the tx were discarded by the network and the bitcoin returned to my wallet.

Before, I'm setting my transactions at the lowest priority and fees today are really high. I did experience to wait for almost 20 hours before my transaction gets confirmed because the fee is only 0.0002 BTC. I have seen people paying .001-0.002BTC just for their confirmation gets faster. Hoping this will fixed soon.

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I have used low fees without many problems, sometimes to my surprise the transaction gets confirmed within a short period, some others I've had to wait days for them to confirm. On a couple of occasions after waiting forever, the tx were discarded by the network and the bitcoin returned to my wallet.

Before, I'm setting my transactions at the lowest priority and fees today are really high. I did experience to wait for almost 20 hours before my transaction gets confirmed because the fee is only 0.0002 BTC. I have seen people paying .001-0.002BTC just for their confirmation gets faster. Hoping this will fixed soon.
People that pay for a huge transaction to get confirmed is the ones that should be paying because they are doing business with large sums of money. I wouldn’t want to make money and wait a bunch of hours when spending $7 for some transaction fee. I am pretty sure that people will have another type of method of spending Bitcoin pretty soon. Since Ethereum is getting more famous, the people that use it will try to use it to spend Bitcoin instead of waiting for their transaction to get confirmed?
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I have used low fees without many problems, sometimes to my surprise the transaction gets confirmed within a short period, some others I've had to wait days for them to confirm. On a couple of occasions after waiting forever, the tx were discarded by the network and the bitcoin returned to my wallet.
No lower fees your transaction. Your transaction will get deprioritized by the blockchain. But it depends on the traffic on the bitcoin network. The more unconfirmed transaction will make the chain will be slowly to validate the transaction. If the people are in the competition to pay more and more to get their transaction to be confirmed in short time and the big competition of the fees will make your transaction fees get deprioritized and it can back to your wallet because the mempool is forgetting your transaction.

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June 14, 2017, 12:53:54 AM
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Sometimes when I withdraw BTC to my wallet, I set really low fees like 50-70 satoshi per byte and wait for weeks, because I'm not going to spend those coins in the near future anyway. I think it's a good way to save a bit of money, because if you look back, you might realize that your fees have added up to a big amount in USD value, while it wasn't always necessary to get those coins confirmed asap.
So, do you use low fees, or always want to get confirmation in a next few blocks?
In choosing the fee you going to use in transaction, you should consider things like your need and how you are going to used in transaction. Because the differences of each transaction fee is base on  the time or how long it will take to proceed the transaction and if you are going to used or the transaction is quite urgent it is better to used high fee with the high transaction value because it may less the amount of fee. But if you do not need the transaction is much better to use low fees in transaction and wait for conformation.
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Well im not using big fees at all, all my transactions has been made with 50-65k satoshis those are taking a few more hours then the usual time when there werent the delays at the blockchain, since im not in rush to get and make the transactions i can wait, but doesnt make sense to pay a premium fee to make my transactions.
   
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Well, I tried my luck with a low fee (~9 Sat/byte) a few weeks ago on a small transaction. Now I'm stuck with an unconfirmed and dusty transaction. Ugh! Trying to figure out how to get it unstuck is taking more time than the money was worth.

In future, I will be sticking with recommended fees. You never know when the low fee will bite you.
That is an awfully low fee, the truth is that transaction may never confirm, but at some point you are going to get that bitcoin back, but this show to use the futility of trying to use a low fee, it is a lot more problem than it is worth, you could have been better just paying the recommended fee and forget about it, instead now you need to worry about whether your transaction is going to confirm at all.
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June 14, 2017, 02:29:39 AM
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I always go with the 'high' fee to make sure the transactions gets confirmed on the chain fast. I don't like having to potentially wait for weeks like some do when using really low fees. BTC isn't suitable to move very small amounts around, the fees would just be brutal, so when I do move BTC it is usually a fair amount.
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June 14, 2017, 02:39:59 AM
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I dont use high fees i just moved my coins to another address without spending them its ok for me to not confirmed it the next block  im always not in a hurry spending my coins.
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Sometimes when I withdraw BTC to my wallet, I set really low fees like 50-70 satoshi per byte and wait for weeks, because I'm not going to spend those coins in the near future anyway. I think it's a good way to save a bit of money, because if you look back, you might realize that your fees have added up to a big amount in USD value, while it wasn't always necessary to get those coins confirmed asap.
So, do you use low fees, or always want to get confirmation in a next few blocks?
I am always using low fees because if I compare it with fiat transfer it is still faster and more practicaly.

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Sometimes when I withdraw BTC to my wallet, I set really low fees like 50-70 satoshi per byte and wait for weeks, because I'm not going to spend those coins in the near future anyway. I think it's a good way to save a bit of money, because if you look back, you might realize that your fees have added up to a big amount in USD value, while it wasn't always necessary to get those coins confirmed asap.
So, do you use low fees, or always want to get confirmation in a next few blocks?
Here the condition is also same for me ( in the most of the cases ) . I usually made  trading at yobit.net exchange more than at other exchange  , because my most of the friends are using yobit.net exchange , so here we made yobit.net code to buy sell our Bitcoin .
And the payment of the signature campaign usually send with very low priority and get confirmed after the one week ( sometimes 2 week in the last month ) .
So I don't much need to pay the fee in most cases , and making transaction free of charge , but sometimes when I needed to trade with particular coin then I need to pay high fee because of the confirmation because if I will send with low fee then it will take more time to confirm , so I needed high fee in only few case .
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June 14, 2017, 04:02:15 AM
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I have used low fees without many problems, sometimes to my surprise the transaction gets confirmed within a short period, some others I've had to wait days for them to confirm. On a couple of occasions after waiting forever, the tx were discarded by the network and the bitcoin returned to my wallet.
I always use default fee 0.0002 btc (can be said low fee). Because I usually use exchange sites for transactions (use c-cex). So the transaction and confirmation can be said faster. Maybe I should wait about 10-20 minutes to get confirmation?


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I have used low fees without many problems, sometimes to my surprise the transaction gets confirmed within a short period, some others I've had to wait days for them to confirm. On a couple of occasions after waiting forever, the tx were discarded by the network and the bitcoin returned to my wallet.
I always use default fee 0.0002 btc (can be said low fee). Because I usually use exchange sites for transactions (use c-cex). So the transaction and confirmation can be said faster. Maybe I should wait about 10-20 minutes to get confirmation?


Yeah, default fee at times seems to be low. This has never been a issue for me till date though lot of users complaint the delay in transaction confirmation a major issue. With me, I just place increased transaction fee during the time of gambling for faster confirmation whereas for normal transactions blockchain default fee suggested is paid.

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I have never used low fees for bitcoin transactions since unconfirmed transactions started to accumulate. I feel less comfortable if transaction bitcoin within 1 hour still 0 confirmation.


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I have used low fees without many problems, sometimes to my surprise the transaction gets confirmed within a short period, some others I've had to wait days for them to confirm. On a couple of occasions after waiting forever, the tx were discarded by the network and the bitcoin returned to my wallet.
I always use default fee 0.0002 btc (can be said low fee). Because I usually use exchange sites for transactions (use c-cex). So the transaction and confirmation can be said faster. Maybe I should wait about 10-20 minutes to get confirmation?


Yeah, default fee at times seems to be low. This has never been a issue for me till date though lot of users complaint the delay in transaction confirmation a major issue. With me, I just place increased transaction fee during the time of gambling for faster confirmation whereas for normal transactions blockchain default fee suggested is paid.

Well the real problem is ratio between fee amount and transaction size in bytes since blocks are limited in size, 1MB. It's expressed in sat/B (satoshi per byte) end you can check which value you should target on https://bitcoinfees.21.co/ because it changes over time depending on current number of unconfirmed transactions.

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Never do I use low fees because all my transactions are really important that I can risk myself on chance to losse mt Bitcoin
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I used to use low fee (or even no fee) transactions but when no wallet accepts free transactions, I usually use medium fees
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Never do I use low fees because all my transactions are really important that I can risk myself on chance to losse mt Bitcoin

Not at all. You're not going to lose your bitcoin just because you picked low transaction fee. Even when it take a day or even a week before your transaction gets confirmed, it doesn't matter. The coin will always be there. The coin has nowhere else to go. My trick is to use Electrum wallet so I can rebroadcast the coin and add more fees to it (in both receiving and sending bitcoins) if the transaction is needed to get confirmed faster.

I personally always use the lowest fees but never the fees that are almost zero. Fees are important since that's how you get your transaction more prioritized than other transactions.

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Never do I use low fees because all my transactions are really important that I can risk myself on chance to losse mt Bitcoin

Not at all. You're not going to lose your bitcoin just because you picked low transaction fee. Even when it take a day or even a week before your transaction gets confirmed, it doesn't matter. The coin will always be there. The coin has nowhere else to go. My trick is to use Electrum wallet so I can rebroadcast the coin and add more fees to it (in both receiving and sending bitcoins) if the transaction is needed to get confirmed faster.

I personally always use the lowest fees but never the fees that are almost zero. Fees are important since that's how you get your transaction more prioritized than other transactions.

Are you using RBF (Replace By Fee)? If so, other Electrum users should know that this isn't the default option with Electrum wallet. I would love to RBF a transaction I made with below normal fees... But I can't, because I didn't tick the checkmark for RBF before that transaction. Now I'm stuck just waiting it out. I guess there may be a faster method, but it would have helped if I had known about RBF before I tried to get stingy with fees.

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No. I'm using low fees like 0.2 mBTC (absolute minimum) since I don't need short awaiting times. I want to wait long, but cheap, instead of expensive short await times.
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No. I'm using low fees like 0.2 mBTC (absolute minimum) since I don't need short awaiting times. I want to wait long, but cheap, instead of expensive short await times.
Of course there is a neurovit steering wheel urgency of the translation, then most likely it is your choice will be very correct. But if everything needs to be done quickly, then no other commission will not keep it from it.

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Sometimes when I withdraw BTC to my wallet, I set really low fees like 50-70 satoshi per byte and wait for weeks, because I'm not going to spend those coins in the near future anyway. I think it's a good way to save a bit of money, because if you look back, you might realize that your fees have added up to a big amount in USD value, while it wasn't always necessary to get those coins confirmed asap.
So, do you use low fees, or always want to get confirmation in a next few blocks?
It's too risky for me. Using a very small fee can make a very long delivery transaction. You can reduce the cost, but you will be difficult if you have to wait a long time. Imagine if you are in need of bitcoin but the transaction is still running, of course it will make you confused when need bitcoin on the spur of the moment.
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I have used low fees without many problems, sometimes to my surprise the transaction gets confirmed within a short period, some others I've had to wait days for them to confirm. On a couple of occasions after waiting forever, the tx were discarded by the network and the bitcoin returned to my wallet.
If you use an online wallet like blockchain. I'm sure if you use a low fee (like 10k satoshi) you'll get your first confirmation the next day lol. Because I tried it some time ago and then cured, and I moved out of blockchain

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June 15, 2017, 11:30:46 PM
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I have used low fees without many problems, sometimes to my surprise the transaction gets confirmed within a short period, some others I've had to wait days for them to confirm. On a couple of occasions after waiting forever, the tx were discarded by the network and the bitcoin returned to my wallet.

Before, I'm setting my transactions at the lowest priority and fees today are really high. I did experience to wait for almost 20 hours before my transaction gets confirmed because the fee is only 0.0002 BTC. I have seen people paying .001-0.002BTC just for their confirmation gets faster. Hoping this will fixed soon.
People that pay for a huge transaction to get confirmed is the ones that should be paying because they are doing business with large sums of money. I wouldn’t want to make money and wait a bunch of hours when spending $7 for some transaction fee. I am pretty sure that people will have another type of method of spending Bitcoin pretty soon. Since Ethereum is getting more famous, the people that use it will try to use it to spend Bitcoin instead of waiting for their transaction to get confirmed?

If you don't have problem on waiting for several hours then just set your fee to the smallest one. But if you need to cash out your bitcoin then you don't have choice to pay for the higher fee. Well after the PoS turn over ETH, I'm thinking that many will still stick to bitcoin because it will do something great soon.

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June 16, 2017, 04:11:22 PM
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I used to use Coinbase and Xapo so that I didn't need to worry about fee because those wallets were free to send Bitcoin. But when they needed to take fees from me, I send all my funds to Electrum and I need to pay fees and you know there is no chance to use a low transaction fee anymore (lol)
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June 16, 2017, 10:23:56 PM
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I have used low fees without many problems, sometimes to my surprise the transaction gets confirmed within a short period, some others I've had to wait days for them to confirm. On a couple of occasions after waiting forever, the tx were discarded by the network and the bitcoin returned to my wallet.
If you're lucky maybe you'll get a quick transaction and confirmation with a low fee. But if you really want to get a quick transaction. You can use the recommendation fee. Usually a blockchain user will understand this




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Yesterday i send 0.18 btc with 10 satoshi per kbyte.. Later accelerated it in vicabtc. Fortunately evertyhing is ok and transcation got confirmed.


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June 16, 2017, 10:49:55 PM
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I have used low fees without many problems, sometimes to my surprise the transaction gets confirmed within a short period, some others I've had to wait days for them to confirm. On a couple of occasions after waiting forever, the tx were discarded by the network and the bitcoin returned to my wallet.
If you use an online wallet like blockchain. I'm sure if you use a low fee (like 10k satoshi) you'll get your first confirmation the next day lol. Because I tried it some time ago and then cured, and I moved out of blockchain


Yes if a person will pay a lower fees then the confirmation of that transaction will take that much longer time and in that case if a person need their bitcoin faster to transact then he will be tired to wait for that transaction but if a person will not need it faster then he will be ok for that.
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Yesterday i send 0.18 btc with 10 satoshi per kbyte.. Later accelerated it in vicabtc. Fortunately evertyhing is ok and transcation got confirmed.

Thats actually quite amazing, I thought viabtc had higher minimum requirements. Generally I just pay the correct fee and get it done as fast as possible.

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June 16, 2017, 11:26:35 PM
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When i was a new to cryptocurrency i always set the fee to normal because usually i really want to received my profit as soon as possible but even tho it's a normal fee the fee transaction is still expensive and we all know that. I think the transaction fees will bring down bitcoins i hope in the next year or months they will solved the problem about transaction fees before some altcoins will pop out and beat the value of bitcoins because of the expensive transaction fee
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Because It been a long time i use blockchain and coinbase so i use the default fees by blockchain and coinbase. no any issue and long delay.
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Yesterday i send 0.18 btc with 10 satoshi per kbyte.. Later accelerated it in vicabtc. Fortunately evertyhing is ok and transcation got confirmed.

Thats actually quite amazing, I thought viabtc had higher minimum requirements. Generally I just pay the correct fee and get it done as fast as possible.

ViaBTC requires people to include a minimum of 10,000 satoshis per KB before they pick up transactions to accelerate. Easy calculation -- 1 KB = 1000 bytes = 10 satoshi per byte. From there he included the very minimum in fees in order to make use ViaBTC's acceleration service -- that's what I consider to be a real penny pincher.
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June 17, 2017, 03:09:09 PM
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Sometimes when I withdraw BTC to my wallet, I set really low fees like 50-70 satoshi per byte and wait for weeks, because I'm not going to spend those coins in the near future anyway. I think it's a good way to save a bit of money, because if you look back, you might realize that your fees have added up to a big amount in USD value, while it wasn't always necessary to get those coins confirmed asap.
So, do you use low fees, or always want to get confirmation in a next few blocks?
yeah If you don't need to use your Bitcoin so soon, it's a good way to spend your Bitcoin but when you need your transactions to be confirmed fast, like selling Bitcoin or trading, you need to pay a bigger fee so that your transaction can be confirmed faster
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June 17, 2017, 03:18:05 PM
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I use low fees if I'm just putting away some bitcoins into cold storage or transferring to other wallets. By low I mean 100-200 Satoshis/byte, never under 100. They usually confirm within 24h so I suppose I could go lower if I wanted to but waiting weeks seems silly.
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June 17, 2017, 04:36:07 PM
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I use low fees if I'm just putting away some bitcoins into cold storage or transferring to other wallets. By low I mean 100-200 Satoshis/byte, never under 100. They usually confirm within 24h so I suppose I could go lower if I wanted to but waiting weeks seems silly.
I think low fees it too good, when we talk about someone who doesn't care about the speed of confirmations of his transactions, Like me. but in my case, I am obligated to use a high fees, because xapo set a regular fees which they controled by xapo not by me. Furthermore, these fees are too high.

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In certain urgent circumstances, I prefer high tx fee. For faster transactions to be confirmed. Less than 1 hour usually bitcoin has arrived to my wallet.
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June 18, 2017, 02:34:25 PM
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Yesterday i send 0.18 btc with 10 satoshi per kbyte.. Later accelerated it in vicabtc. Fortunately evertyhing is ok and transcation got confirmed.

Thats actually quite amazing, I thought viabtc had higher minimum requirements. Generally I just pay the correct fee and get it done as fast as possible.

ViaBTC requires people to include a minimum of 10,000 satoshis per KB before they pick up transactions to accelerate. Easy calculation -- 1 KB = 1000 bytes = 10 satoshi per byte. From there he included the very minimum in fees in order to make use ViaBTC's acceleration service -- that's what I consider to be a real penny pincher.

Why are doing so much math just to arrive at the wrong conclusion?
He already said he paid "10 satoshi per kbyte". Via btc requires x1k times that.

So I really doubt he has sent that transactions with the viabtc accelerator.


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June 18, 2017, 03:55:34 PM
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for this I use the low cost 0.1 mbtc because I don't need to wait for a long time just 3 hours after the transaction starts immediately sent in my wallet so that it does not require long and expensive time. I hope there is a cost free when we deal with this unlikely but bitcoin happen ...
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When i was a new to cryptocurrency i always set the fee to normal because usually i really want to received my profit as soon as possible but even tho it's a normal fee the fee transaction is still expensive and we all know that. I think the transaction fees will bring down bitcoins i hope in the next year or months they will solved the problem about transaction fees before some altcoins will pop out and beat the value of bitcoins because of the expensive transaction fee

You are right, normal fees are not normal, they are ridiculously high, and even my "cheap" fees like 40-60 sat/byte are very expensive, because if you are paying 0.0005 BTC for 0.01 BTC transaction, that's a 5% fees - something that rarely happens even with fiat transactions. I have a feeling that miners are just preying on people's fear of uncertainty, people are afraid that their transaction will get stuck forever and lost, so they want it to get confirmed asap, which makes them to push fees higher and higher. I won't be surprised if we find out that miners are behind spam attacks and that they are doing everything they can to keep fees as high as possible.

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Not anymore because then all my transactions would probably get stuck. Now I use wallets with dynamic fees policy. But there are also no low fees anymore, even those labeled as normal or low are very high. But this is the new Bitcoin reality, if you want it use it efficiently and be sure that you would get or send the coins, you have to pay the price.

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Not anymore because then all my transactions would probably get stuck. Now I use wallets with dynamic fees policy. But there are also no low fees anymore, even those labeled as normal or low are very high. But this is the new Bitcoin reality, if you want it use it efficiently and be sure that you would get or send the coins, you have to pay the price.

Correct, we are the one adjusting and paying the price of using bitcoin now. But whatever angle you look at it, this will have a negative impact to the bitcoin ecosystem. Maybe some are moving to alt coins because of this. We don't know. That is why I'm just storing my bitcoin and not doing any transactions for now to avoid paying the high tx fees.

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June 18, 2017, 11:09:16 PM
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I use low fees if I'm just putting away some bitcoins into cold storage or transferring to other wallets. By low I mean 100-200 Satoshis/byte, never under 100. They usually confirm within 24h so I suppose I could go lower if I wanted to but waiting weeks seems silly.
bitcoin is a kind of currency in which people are getting a lot of benefit althrough if they are earning money through online business or either they are investing in it bitcoin is giving profit to all of us i'm very sure that it depend and how fast a user want the money by bitcoin because spending a more than a couple or year income just so another user can get they are not doing it smartly a lot of people are here who are using transition with low fees and mostly with no fees with no fees transaction would take half a day to get completed being in hury is never been a good and smart option.
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i wonder now that some type of scaling looks like it's gonna arrive, whether the 'fee pressure' will mysteriously disappear. let's see what it does between now and august. i think we might be in for not much of a surprise.
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June 18, 2017, 11:35:13 PM
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Yes i am using low fees, It take my transaction days to be completed completely, For me it is ok because i only need 1 confirmation to get my deposit when i am depositing to other site so no need for my transaction to be 100% completed and it save me so much transaction fee by using low fees.
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June 18, 2017, 11:39:12 PM
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Yes i am using low fees, It take my transaction days to be completed completely, For me it is ok because i only need 1 confirmation to get my deposit when i am depositing to other site so no need for my transaction to be 100% completed and it save me so much transaction fee by using low fees.

Well, for people that want fast confirmation always use a standard fee for their transaction, up to 0.0005-0.001. With that fee you can get cofirmation 30minutes-1hour depend on the fee. For me, i always use 0.0003-0.0005 fee and i use txid accelerator for make it faster.


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June 18, 2017, 11:39:52 PM
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When I am withdrawing from exchanges,  I have nothing to do Smiley they charges higher fees. But when I am the one sending, I am using medium to Higher fees because I want it fast,also the other party are waiting.Its fine for me,adding that when you are in a hurry, it saves time.
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everytime while I can I use low fees, but if you're using a site that doesn't have low fees, only high, what to do then?
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everytime while I can I use low fees, but if you're using a site that doesn't have low fees, only high, what to do then?

contact support? if you have private keys then you can import them to another wallet that does let you control your fees. if you don't have them then you're at their mercy.

if you're talking about an exchange then use an alt to move your funds and you can convert back somewhere else.
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June 19, 2017, 12:41:16 AM
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Block.io just quoted me .0492840 btc as a minimum network fee that's 123.90 USD
talk about stealing
It's most probably because the input and output in your transaction are rather many that cause the transaction to have an overwhelmingly high size, though, that's still not an excuse of how the fee is ridiculously high that it far surpasses any other similar services out there that offer more benefits.
Talking about the confirmation and the efficient way, better to use someone else's service to include your transaction into a block by paying some amount of BTC which is smaller than what quoted by block.io

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June 19, 2017, 05:06:05 AM
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Never do I use low fees because all my transactions are really important that I can risk myself on chance to losse mt Bitcoin
If your transaction does not confirm then your transaction has nowhere to go but back to your wallet, you are not going to lose your bitcoin, think about this as if you are sending a letter, if you send a letter without stamps, the letter is going to go back to you because it did not have stamps, bitcoin is the same if you send a transaction with low fees, the transactions is not going to go anywhere because of lack of fees.
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June 19, 2017, 06:47:31 PM
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Block.io just quoted me .0492840 btc as a minimum network fee that's 123.90 USD
talk about stealing

That's bs.
Sorry to say it but it is BS.

Either you have more than 100 inputs or outputs or this story is just fake.
I've never heard of such a fee till know.

And the funny part.
Block.io provides zero fee transactions for users, developers, and merchants. However, we do not deal in money.
What happened to this?

everytime while I can I use low fees, but if you're using a site that doesn't have low fees, only high, what to do then?

Stop using a 3rd art. It defeats the point of using bitcoin.

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Block.io just quoted me .0492840 btc as a minimum network fee that's 123.90 USD
talk about stealing

This is ridiculous. What do you do? Do you proceed?

If yes can you share the tx id here? It's hard to believe and that is just a minimum. So how much more for priority?
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June 19, 2017, 09:32:20 PM
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Sometimes I used low fees because the fees as of now its very high. Compared to the previous fee is very low I think the fee is only 20 k satoshi but now look the fee is very high the amount you send if high the fee is also high. But sometimes I used also high fees when I need my bitcoin and i want to confirmed fast my transaction. But even the fees is hifh thetransaction sometimes is low also I dont know why.
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June 19, 2017, 11:28:07 PM
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Yes i am using low fees, It take my transaction days to be completed completely, For me it is ok because i only need 1 confirmation to get my deposit when i am depositing to other site so no need for my transaction to be 100% completed and it save me so much transaction fee by using low fees.

There are no low fees will be acceptable in these days we know that the bitcoin network bloated and the fees are so high. Even the chart on bitcoin21fees says that the fastest and cheap fees for the transaction is 390byte/sat and in this time it will equal with almost 10 dollars. and it looks strange in my opinion. There is no micro-transaction for bitcoin again.

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June 22, 2017, 11:50:26 AM
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Block.io just quoted me .0492840 btc as a minimum network fee that's 123.90 USD
talk about stealing

This is ridiculous. What do you do? Do you proceed?

If yes can you share the tx id here? It's hard to believe and that is just a minimum. So how much more for priority?
I would like to know more about this too, There must be some mistake or scam. And if neither of this you should change your wallet. Smiley

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Low fees is not practical anymore because if you want to save some bitcoin or money and if you will choose low fees then you can say goodbye to your money because it will not get confirmed because of the low fees or it will take a lot of days or weeks before the miners confirm it because they prioritize transaction that has a higher fees so they can get more profits.
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Low fees is not practical anymore because if you want to save some bitcoin or money and if you will choose low fees then you can say goodbye to your money because it will not get confirmed because of the low fees or it will take a lot of days or weeks before the miners confirm it because they prioritize transaction that has a higher fees so they can get more profits.

i am not using low fees because i understand that with low fees, a transaction will need longer to be confirmed and we need to be patience to see the balance is show in our account. at least we need to use up to 0.0005 btc for the fees and if we want to see fast confirmed, we can use 0.001 btc for the fees. for myself, i always use more than 0.0005 btc for the fees and sometimes i used 0.001 to send a big transactions, and the confirmations is not take more than 1 hours.
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Sometimes, if I send small amount or under 0,05 btc, of course I will select for small fees, usually take more than 3 days will receive. I use XAPO wallet, and if I send more than 0,05 btc I am not use low fees.


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June 22, 2017, 02:05:41 PM
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I usually use a fee of approximately 0.0005 (or 50k satoshis). It only costs 1$ and gets confirmed in a couple of hours or even sooner. I don't usually move my money around a lot so for me the high fees don't really affect me that much.
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I alternate between low and average transaction costs this depends on the urgency of the transaction.
I would also like to add that if you always use low cost it can take weeks to arrive.
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Yes i still use low fees because i have no choice. The lowest rate of my low fee is 0.002 BTC even if i am sending 0.002 the fee is 0.002 but i don't send if i will be sending only 0.002 so i wait for a large amount of trade before sending Bitcoin because 0.002 as a low fee is already hurting me. I do wonder why fees keeps going up. I am having a hard time to run my online shop with that amount of fee.
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June 25, 2017, 10:41:02 AM
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Yes i still use low fees because i have no choice. The lowest rate of my low fee is 0.002 BTC even if i am sending 0.002 the fee is 0.002 but i don't send if i will be sending only 0.002 so i wait for a large amount of trade before sending Bitcoin because 0.002 as a low fee is already hurting me. I do wonder why fees keeps going up. I am having a hard time to run my online shop with that amount of fee.

If the fees are hurting your deposits and withdraws then you should really rethink your business model.
Right now if you have an online shop you're far better with somebody else managing the payments and transfers like bitpay.
But I somehow doubt you have all the paperwork in order or you would have already gone for this solution Wink))



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I closed out one of my NiceHash bitcoin addresses and mined just a little over 0.01 BTC to trigger a payout, which took place yesterday as follows:



So now after ~ 30 hours, the transactions still hasn't been confirmed and I see this when I click on the TXID:

https://blockchain.info/en/tx/c90be391a3786c87eba349ecf532ac5be798143ebc8519b024ff41324edefa6b

So just wait a few more days I guess?
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This is just pure greed.
Fee per byte   5.997 sat/B

Really? Probably they did it thinking that 4 days ago the mempool was empty but it is no longer the case.
So they took a 50850 fee from you and only paid 23124 for all the transactions?

Unfortunately nothing you can do but wait and hope some miner will have mercy.

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I do not mind paying BTC 0001-0.002 when I need a quick transaction,
Let's look at this way: buy genuine or virtual goods and pay transaction fees that support bitcoin economy.
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For me those fees not matter because i want to support bitcoin and also developers. When i want fast transaction i'm agreeing on expencive fees cause i have no time for queue.

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Sometimes when I withdraw BTC to my wallet, I set really low fees like 50-70 satoshi per byte and wait for weeks, because I'm not going to spend those coins in the near future anyway. I think it's a good way to save a bit of money, because if you look back, you might realize that your fees have added up to a big amount in USD value, while it wasn't always necessary to get those coins confirmed asap.
So, do you use low fees, or always want to get confirmation in a next few blocks?

I don't usually do this because when I sell my bitcoins, I always compute the transaction fees within it even if the price is ridiculously high. The only time I sell bitcoins is the time when I really need the money and time most so selling it with a high amount of dollar per byte is fine with me.

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In my opinion, Electrum Wallet will adjust the cost so that the transaction can be faster. I have never tried it at all since I first made a payment from a signature campaign.
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when I deposit a bitcoin at low fee, it is very expensive because of the fees they charge rather than your bitcoin deposit. so it's okay sometimes that you have to wait for a low fee.
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It depends. At beginning I used automatic fees in electrum wallet, now I adjust them per need. If Im buying something and buyer cant wait/ I need it quickly , then I go for high fees and quick confirmation. If Im withdrawing and planning to hodl then low fees all the way.
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The fee as far as know isn't that a big deal.And via btc's free service does the job well.
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I do not think that the crypto currency or Bitcoin in general will become official because it is very risky
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Sometimes when I withdraw BTC to my wallet, I set really low fees like 50-70 satoshi per byte and wait for weeks, because I'm not going to spend those coins in the near future anyway. I think it's a good way to save a bit of money, because if you look back, you might realize that your fees have added up to a big amount in USD value, while it wasn't always necessary to get those coins confirmed asap.
So, do you use low fees, or always want to get confirmation in a next few blocks?
Indeed using low fee will get slow confirmation but it's not will take too long. I also using low fee to save bit of my money i'm ok with that the most important the transaction will be confirmed.



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March 13, 2018, 04:58:59 PM
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Fees are much lower than what we got used to and I think if current fees are maintained I honestly don't see or find a reason for other merchants new to the use of crypto will not use these digital currencies and I can say am enjoying the fees now, if they can go lower that would be fantastic.
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March 13, 2018, 04:59:35 PM
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everybody wants a low fee for each transaction, even for rich people who have lots of bitcoin pun it is necessary. Unfortunately there is no free fee from coinbase, I used to use coinbase for transactions but now no, even now the fee is quite big compared to other bitcoin wallet, so I menyimpanya in poloniex, in addition to its trading fee is quite small
Coinbase doesn't charge any fee right so long you're using their wallet and the recipient is also using coinbase? or my info. was wrong? My clients recommended to me to create a coinbase account since they make them free from fees.

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March 29, 2018, 09:12:50 PM
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I use the middle fees, it enable my transactions to be confirmed in a safe way, not so fast but it still can be confirmed Smiley
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March 29, 2018, 10:17:37 PM
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Yes I use low cost, I use coins from bitcoin for me altcoin the price is low. Unlike bitcoins that are expensive.
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March 29, 2018, 10:57:09 PM
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just use the standard cost and no longer need to write more numbers because everything is processed well, the problem sooner or later depending on our needs only. I have never experienced a long delay even more than three days, it just depends on the conditions of the current mempool.
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March 29, 2018, 11:36:12 PM
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Of course, almost 90% of bitcoin community is now enjoying the lower fee because most of the bitcoin exchanges integrated the SegWit to reduce the bitcoin transaction fee and also the latest bitcoin core 0.16.0 comes out as SegWit fully supported for bitcoin users to enjoy lower transaction fees worldwide.

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March 30, 2018, 10:04:55 AM
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Crypto currency is gaining popularity with the world. In 2018 there are more than 1,000 of them. The total capitalization of crypto-currencies exceeded 800 billion dollars.
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April 01, 2018, 03:24:20 PM
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I always use low fees only. because I am in no hurry for withdrawal of it so better soend the least in removal
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April 04, 2018, 10:26:23 PM
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My best bet now had been the ethereum and I have been enjoying the transactions. The Bitcoin fees did the chasing away with its high price. So, I HV been able to adjust with the ETH on most of my transactions and find it moderate.
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April 04, 2018, 11:15:06 PM
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My choice is using the lowest fees as i can and then i use the free acceleration service for boosting my transaction so there will be nothing happens at normal.
Like i'm transfering my money with the normal fees.
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April 04, 2018, 11:37:18 PM
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Sometimes when I withdraw BTC to my wallet, I set really low fees like 50-70 satoshi per byte and wait for weeks, because I'm not going to spend those coins in the near future anyway. I think it's a good way to save a bit of money, because if you look back, you might realize that your fees have added up to a big amount in USD value, while it wasn't always necessary to get those coins confirmed asap.
So, do you use low fees, or always want to get confirmation in a next few blocks?

to send bitcoin from wallet to market or wherever I use a very relative payment cost, when bitcoin price is very expensive and when the transaction is very solid then I will give an expensive shipping cost in order to quickly get to. but when the market conditions calm not too crowded I can use a small fee.
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April 04, 2018, 11:43:46 PM
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use the low fee and high fees is depends on the sender, if the sender need the bitcoin confirmation in fast time i think they need to make the fees is high than before, and if they just want to send with slow time i think they can set the fees in low like you, it doesn't matter if you received the bitcoin in a week or more

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April 04, 2018, 11:46:04 PM
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I think one should use the standard fee to confirm a transaction as soon as possible. I have seen many people choosing the low fee and then wait for days and weeks to confirm their transactions. I personally like my transaction to confirm immediately or with in a less time so I prefer to choose high fee transaction. I guess almost all the transactions you made you have the option to pick for the fee of your choice and it is understood that who pays more will be preferred.
Fortunately many people are coming here in this forum to help us with unconfirmed transactions. I recently checked an offer which is dealing with antpool mining services which will confirmations regardless of how much transaction fees we will be including. It seems we may still go for lower fees too.
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April 04, 2018, 11:51:21 PM
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Of course, almost 90% of bitcoin community is now enjoying the lower fee because most of the bitcoin exchanges integrated the SegWit to reduce the bitcoin transaction fee and also the latest bitcoin core 0.16.0 comes out as SegWit fully supported for bitcoin users to enjoy lower transaction fees worldwide.
But in some exchanges still have very expensive fees, such as poloniex, bittrex, c-cex, etc. the fee for each bitcoin transaction is still above 0.0005 btc or about $ 3 per transaction? that's very expensive to me. but I always get around the high fees by using cheap altcoin to make transactions. usually I will buy altcoin and send it to another exchange in order to get a cheap fee
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April 05, 2018, 01:26:22 AM
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Contingent upon the circumstance on the grounds that there are exchanges which do truly require it to affirm quick uniquely on my vital exchanges which I do need to set medium-high expenses yet there are times I do extremely set low charges and same as yours I dont mind in the event that it would affirm long in light of the fact that those bitcoins are exclusively to save for future as long im beyond any doubt it wont be crossed out then it ought to be fine. Charges now are extremely repulsive when you do extremely jump at the chance to attach it up.
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April 05, 2018, 01:59:26 AM
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for me as long the bitcoin received its okay for me, but if i need the bitcoin in fast time like transfer that bitcoin to another people i think i will use high fees, becasue its immposible that i ask him to wait 1 week to receive bitcoin from me hahaha

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April 05, 2018, 04:43:46 AM
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i go for middling fees. i'm not convinced fees that low will ever confirm with things the way there are these days. if i'm buying something then i go for relatively high because i don't want to be waiting around.
Yes, its very irritating to wait for a long time whenever I used low fees. Sometimes I much prefer for a high fees to get as soon as possible what ever things that i buy.

It all depends on the priorities. I usually go with the fees suggested by the exchange or web wallet service providers as I don't do frequent transactions. I am not sure what is the reason but I have observed that even paying the average fees, the transactions are getting confirmed faster than before. I guess that exchanges are clubbing multiple transactions and it results in faster confirmation.

We must use higher costs, do not need to be too high, just need enough, so the speed of your transaction will be very fast, but we should not use low cost for the transaction, which will cause many obstacles in our work. Unverified or long-term transactions will make your work uncomfortable
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April 05, 2018, 05:24:53 AM
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Fees are much lower than what we got used to and I think if current fees are maintained I honestly don't see or find a reason for other merchants new to the use of crypto will not use these digital currencies and I can say am enjoying the fees now, if they can go lower that would be fantastic and i think almost 90% of bitcoin community is now enjoying the lower fee because most of the bitcoin exchanges integrated the SegWit to reduce the bitcoin transaction fee and also the latest bitcoin core 0.16.0 comes out as SegWit fully supported for bitcoin users to enjoy lower transaction fees worldwide.
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April 05, 2018, 05:27:49 AM
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Low rates are the biggest advantage of the coin market. Whenever we want, we can transfer the amount of money we want.
Private banks are closed at weekends. Operation fees are very high. More interruptions.
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April 05, 2018, 06:41:40 AM
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Sometimes when I withdraw BTC to my wallet, I set really low fees like 50-70 satoshi per byte and wait for weeks, because I'm not going to spend those coins in the near future anyway. I think it's a good way to save a bit of money, because if you look back, you might realize that your fees have added up to a big amount in USD value, while it wasn't always necessary to get those coins confirmed asap.
So, do you use low fees, or always want to get confirmation in a next few blocks?

Yes i uses low fees though it is a great advantage though , so i use the low fees all the time and sometimes i tend to meet a person then negotiate , by person to person i can buy at the lowest fee.

 
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April 05, 2018, 06:56:39 AM
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I always use 30 satoshi per byte and i'm letting Jihan BU to pay the rest on my behalf.Viabtc's free service does the job very well.  Paying>200satoshi/byte started to hurt me very badly. I have to move my coins from one address to another from time to time because those small incomes which i collect from here and there create many inputs in time and i don't want to look at a 100$ fee in some day.I even used to think like that if i am not in a hurry,but then some my transactions with low fees got rejected and so i stopped doing transactions with very low fees and even i am starting to go over the bridge and start putting higher fees even though i am not in a hurry just to get those coins transferred.



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April 05, 2018, 07:18:14 AM
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With the higher bitcoin price, the dollar we pay for the transaction fee will increase as well, even though the actual amount of bitcoin we pay for the transaction fee is fixed from the first. To be honest, this is a problem when the amount of dollars we spend on transaction fees suddenly rises as the price of bitcoin increases.
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April 05, 2018, 07:27:17 AM
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Nope, I am always using medium fee because sometimes, low fee can stuck your bitcoin in the blockchain for weeks or month.
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April 05, 2018, 07:41:14 AM
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I dont want to bargain on fees, I think by using higher fees it gives me peace of mind that my money will be recieved just in time. To be honest putting too low fees in my transaction makes me stressed because I have that idea behind my mind that it will not be confirmed.

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April 05, 2018, 08:31:47 AM
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Using low fees is a good option now because your transactions do not take forever to complete. This is because the volume of transactions now is very low which means transactions are confirmed faster than when the transaction volumes were high so even though you use low transaction fees your transactions would still go through quickly so take advantage of it now that you can.

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April 08, 2018, 07:51:21 PM
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why do we need to use those low fees if we want to receive our transactions quickly. And I usually send moderate number of bitcoin, that is why it is okay for me to pay for the fee, I don't usually send small amount, that is bothering, not to me but for the miners.
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April 08, 2018, 07:57:40 PM
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I don't usually send small amount, that is bothering, not to me but for the miners.

Why would it be a bother to the miners? In fact they will be overjoyed to what you are doing there that is there job. Do you know where the fees are going? The fees we are paying are for the miners that is accepting the transaction. The more the transaction is, the more they earn.

Low fees are not a great idea until LN was used. I think the transaction is faster now than those last years.

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April 08, 2018, 10:27:13 PM
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I pay high fee because I don't wanna risk my btcs by keeping them in the system. Rather prefer to withdraw them in my laptop ASAP
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April 10, 2018, 04:00:57 AM
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Everything now is really calm including the transaction fee,  you can literally use bitcoin to buy a cup of coffee which wasn't possible some weeks ago,  I guess this downtrend is also helping transaction fee in becoming stable, I was surprised the other day when I sent  out $500 worth of BTC to someone and I was charged just about $0.01 as transaction fee. I was scared at first.
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April 12, 2018, 07:12:42 PM
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Im not using low fees, wallets that use low fees I think are low on security and I only send and transact BCT in larger amounts. Sometimes Im converting BTC to fiat and then send it as a fiat to avoid such fees.
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April 12, 2018, 07:32:19 PM
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Probably it's very stupid to use low fees. I am not greedy enogh to pay $20 insteed of losing my wallet or money on it. Security on low fees wallet isn't the best.
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April 18, 2018, 06:10:50 PM
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everybody wants a low fee for each transaction, even for rich people who have lots of bitcoin pun it is necessary. Unfortunately there is no free fee from coinbase, I used to use coinbase for transactions but now no, even now the fee is quite big compared to other bitcoin wallet, so I menyimpanya in poloniex, in addition to its trading fee is quite small
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Not anymore because then all my transactions would probably get stuck. Now I use wallets with dynamic fees policy. But there are also no low fees anymore, even those labeled as normal or low are very high.
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