When will Religions die?

[exemplaar]

This religion is already dying:




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[Okurkabinladin]

I do not think Religion will die because human being naturally want to be attach to a higher power. All the religion give their follower assurance of protection,provision and so on.

What guarantees can you give to religion? Nothing what they say the religious leaders never come true. How then can they believe. Every year the adherents of different religions will become smaller, but religion for a very long time will try to stay in power.

You should do less thinking and more reading on the subject you are trying to sound informed on.

West is becoming less secular by the year, while the rest of the world never abandoned its traditions.

Guess why? We live in age and place where having kids is a choice, not a neccesity while mortality went down throughout the developed world. So, who has the reproduction advantage? You or the person, whose entire value system is based around piety and family?

Religious people have significantly bigger families, while atheists are not able to atleast sustain their own numbers. It doesnt matter, if you think there is a God. What matters is, that those who do will inherit the Earth.

[Snail2]

Religions will never die. Most human beings needs to believe that there is a better world somewhere and also having difficulties to accept that their loved ones and themselves will die and eaten by the maggots, and that's the end of story. Much more comforting to think that we'll meet again in a better world . That's why modern religions like communism neo-liberalism and atheism are unable get a good traction, as while they trying to address the better world part none of those are able to provide an alternative for the maggot problem.

[Eternu]

Religions made a lot of damage to human beings and our world in general. I'm not talking only about Islam, but every kind of religion, more or less, caused lots of problems.

I'm sure they will end. They won't last forever. But how will they end?

Which could the scenario that leads to their disappearance?

Like in every thing in life, there are good and there are bad things in it. It is same with religion. I can not say that religion is bad, because there are so much useful stuff in its teaching. But i do not deny bad things that were done in name of religion. I was speaking with friend about this theme, and we agree that approximately every religion live up to around 3000 years. So there you go, maybe religion will die at the end of 2999. year.

Religion does not die, but degenerates into another religion. Initially, there were teachings that were outdated and uninteresting to people. On their basis, other religions were created. They are all based on one principle: fear of God and submission to God

Replace the word God with the Natural Order and... where is the problem then? Because various religions do in fact try to represent natural order within context of human existence.

Refusal to accept the world the way it is and the way it works is not a sign of strength but rather of immaturity.

Just my two cents.

Yes, that Natural Order point of view could work, with some adjustments.  First we need to take science in consideration, and second we can not look on nature as a God or something like that. Because humans has tame some of natural things. But i think that it could be done, to live and respect nature. Something like advanced elves. xD And i agree with Illaqpt, religion does not die, it evolve.

[TomUyamot]

Religions made a lot of damage to human beings and our world in general. I'm not talking only about Islam, but every kind of religion, more or less, caused lots of problems.

I'm sure they will end. They won't last forever. But how will they end?

Which could the scenario that leads to their disappearance?

I sincerely share your frustration over religion sir. But, end of religion? No way bro, no way. Religion is an integral part of humanity. Since time immemorial, human beings have always developed some forms of religion. However, religion keeps evolving. We can only hope that the future forms of religion would breed peace and love. 

[Xester]

Religions will never die. Most human beings needs to believe that there is a better world somewhere and also having difficulties to accept that their loved ones and themselves will die and eaten by the maggots, and that's the end of story. Much more comforting to think that we'll meet again in a better world . That's why modern religions like communism neo-liberalism and atheism are unable get a good traction, as while they trying to address the better world part none of those are able to provide an alternative for the maggot problem.

Certainly.  It will never die.  It has been there even before Christ.  It is a good thing that we have something to look for when we feel lost.  Many of us wants something to have a hope when we die.  We do not want to just vanished and try to forget the pains.  

[Daniel91]

Religions will never die. Most human beings needs to believe that there is a better world somewhere and also having difficulties to accept that their loved ones and themselves will die and eaten by the maggots, and that's the end of story. Much more comforting to think that we'll meet again in a better world . That's why modern religions like communism neo-liberalism and atheism are unable get a good traction, as while they trying to address the better world part none of those are able to provide an alternative for the maggot problem.

Certainly.  It will never die.  It has been there even before Christ.  It is a good thing that we have something to look for when we feel lost.  Many of us wants something to have a hope when we die.  We do not want to just vanished and try to forget the pains.  

People are spiritual beings, not only physical.
So, even our first ancestors in Africa 150 000 years ago believed in invisible world and Gods.
It's part of our original nature.
Religion came a long way later, just several thousand years ago, as human attempt to organize our beliefs and unite people.
So, without faith and our spiritual part, which is related with our everyday life, we will never create religions, we will never need religion.
Since we can't kill our spirituality and faith, we also can't kill religion.

[ma_da_o]

Why do you think it's religion that's damaging human being? I think human make the most damages to human. Plus, we all need something to 'believe' in, so I doubt religion is going to disapear.

Exactly people created their selves a life that they wantedt to be actually religion is not bad at all times. It help make people to have faith in humanity and something to look up for

Religion does not help. Under the guise of religion man impose false values and enslave his mind. The dream of all religions and Nations to make people obedient slaves.

It's not a matter of whether religion helps the humankind, it just gives us something to rely on when you have unanswered questions (emotionally).

[halych]

Why do you think it's religion that's damaging human being? I think human make the most damages to human. Plus, we all need something to 'believe' in, so I doubt religion is going to disapear.

Exactly people created their selves a life that they wantedt to be actually religion is not bad at all times. It help make people to have faith in humanity and something to look up for

Religion does not help. Under the guise of religion man impose false values and enslave his mind. The dream of all religions and Nations to make people obedient slaves.

It's not a matter of whether religion helps the humankind, it just gives us something to rely on when you have unanswered questions (emotionally).

Sometimes religion gives false answers to your questions. Therefore, one must be careful with religion. Nothing can be absolutely believed. You have to rely on your mind and logic. Religion is a way of managing people

[unusualfacts30]

It keeps people in line, I don't think it's going to die anytime soon. If you check the history, every civilization disappeared from earth the moment it went away from God. Religion is very much needed for the well being of everyone.

[Okurkabinladin]

It keeps people in line, I don't think it's going to die anytime soon. If you check the history, every civilization disappeared from earth the moment it went away from God. Religion is very much needed for the well being of everyone.

You are right, but it is hard to explain to nihilists, who see no value in civilization, they are interested only in their own comfort.

There an example of mental (and ultimately deadly) masturbation:

The apocalypse is finished, today it is the precession of the neutral, of forms of the neutral and of indifference…all that remains, is the fascination for desertlike and indifferent forms, for the very operation of the system that annihilates us. Now, fascination (in contrast to seduction, which was attached to appearances, and to dialectical reason, which was attached to meaning) is a nihilistic passion par excellence, it is the passion proper to the mode of disappearance. We are fascinated by all forms of disappearance, of our disappearance. Melancholic and fascinated, such is our general situation in an era of involuntary transparency.
— Jean Baudrillard, Simulacra and Simulation, "On Nihilism", trans. 1995

[squatz1]

Religions are things that give people hope that life is going to get better, or if it's not going to get better here it's going to get better in another life. This is something that people love to have, they love to have some sort of answer to the questions that people wouldn't be able to answer within normal science means or anything along those lines. People want to know things such as why we're here, or what we're supposed to do on this earth.

Religion, pretty much any religion provides this to people by giving them a set of rules to follow while you're here and if you follow them you're going to get x,y, and z.

So, in short they're never going to die they're just going to evolve.

[Lampaster]

All religion will die when people cease to hope that someone will make their life better and believe that each person is the Builder of his own happiness. It will not happen soon, but it will happen.

[Okurkabinladin]

All religion will die when people cease to hope that someone will make their life better and believe that each person is the Builder of his own happiness. It will not happen soon, but it will happen.

And then you woke with hand in your crotch.

From a global perspective, religion is seeing a resurgence and scholars of religious demographics frequently use the term "global resurgence of religion" to describe the process of desecularization which began in the late portion of the 20th century.

As a percentage of the world's population, atheism peaked in 1970. Global atheism is expected to decline in the 21st century and beyond in terms of its global market share. Presently, there are a number of excellent sources which indicate that atheism is shrinking in global market share (see: Global atheism statistics).

The theologian and Harvard University academic Harvey Cox asserted that grassroots movements such as fundamentalism and the Charismatic movement/pentecostalism are significant religious forces that are resistant to secularization forces. In her book The Battle for God, Karen Armstrong wrote: "One of the most startling developments of the late 20th century has been the emergence within every major religious tradition of a militant piety known as 'fundamentalism'… this religious resurgence has taken many observers by surprise."

The American sociologist and author Peter L. Berger introduced the concept of desecularization in 1999.

Many of the areas of the former areas of the Soviet Union, including Russia, experienced a rapid desecularization since the fall of the Soviet Union. Communist China is currently experiencing rapid desecularization due to the growth of Christianity in China.

[Lampaster]

All religion will die when people cease to hope that someone will make their life better and believe that each person is the Builder of his own happiness. It will not happen soon, but it will happen.

And then you woke with hand in your crotch.

From a global perspective, religion is seeing a resurgence and scholars of religious demographics frequently use the term "global resurgence of religion" to describe the process of desecularization which began in the late portion of the 20th century.

As a percentage of the world's population, atheism peaked in 1970. Global atheism is expected to decline in the 21st century and beyond in terms of its global market share. Presently, there are a number of excellent sources which indicate that atheism is shrinking in global market share (see: Global atheism statistics).

The theologian and Harvard University academic Harvey Cox asserted that grassroots movements such as fundamentalism and the Charismatic movement/pentecostalism are significant religious forces that are resistant to secularization forces. In her book The Battle for God, Karen Armstrong wrote: "One of the most startling developments of the late 20th century has been the emergence within every major religious tradition of a militant piety known as 'fundamentalism'… this religious resurgence has taken many observers by surprise."

The American sociologist and author Peter L. Berger introduced the concept of desecularization in 1999.

Many of the areas of the former areas of the Soviet Union, including Russia, experienced a rapid desecularization since the fall of the Soviet Union. Communist China is currently experiencing rapid desecularization due to the growth of Christianity in China.

In the countries of the former USSR the government is specifically trying to strengthen the role of the Church because after the collapse, people lost orientation but it does not mean that all people become believers. Politicians who visit churches for every religious holiday, and then outside the temple people and plunder the Treasury. You seriously think that they are believers? People do the same thing only on a smaller scale. This Russian believers are being attacked with a weapon in the hands of neighboring States or Russian Christians soldiers to protect Muslims in Syria? Learn to distinguish the believers from those who only pretends to believe.

[Okurkabinladin]

All religion will die when people cease to hope that someone will make their life better and believe that each person is the Builder of his own happiness. It will not happen soon, but it will happen.

And then you woke with hand in your crotch.

From a global perspective, religion is seeing a resurgence and scholars of religious demographics frequently use the term "global resurgence of religion" to describe the process of desecularization which began in the late portion of the 20th century.

As a percentage of the world's population, atheism peaked in 1970. Global atheism is expected to decline in the 21st century and beyond in terms of its global market share. Presently, there are a number of excellent sources which indicate that atheism is shrinking in global market share (see: Global atheism statistics).

The theologian and Harvard University academic Harvey Cox asserted that grassroots movements such as fundamentalism and the Charismatic movement/pentecostalism are significant religious forces that are resistant to secularization forces. In her book The Battle for God, Karen Armstrong wrote: "One of the most startling developments of the late 20th century has been the emergence within every major religious tradition of a militant piety known as 'fundamentalism'… this religious resurgence has taken many observers by surprise."

The American sociologist and author Peter L. Berger introduced the concept of desecularization in 1999.

Many of the areas of the former areas of the Soviet Union, including Russia, experienced a rapid desecularization since the fall of the Soviet Union. Communist China is currently experiencing rapid desecularization due to the growth of Christianity in China.

In the countries of the former USSR the government is specifically trying to strengthen the role of the Church because after the collapse, people lost orientation but it does not mean that all people become believers. Politicians who visit churches for every religious holiday, and then outside the temple people and plunder the Treasury. You seriously think that they are believers? People do the same thing only on a smaller scale. This Russian believers are being attacked with a weapon in the hands of neighboring States or Russian Christians soldiers to protect Muslims in Syria? Learn to distinguish the believers from those who only pretends to believe.

How do you make a difference, if someone believes or not? You are an atheist.

Benefits of religion are visible even in the United States as it provides for communal stability, while population of agno/atheists is pretty much collapsing without any outside influence.

In this regard, Russia is prudent. While development in China and South Korea is promising.

[Kronos21]

Not every person confesses in interviews that he is an atheist. Many consider themselves automatically to the main faith in the country, but that does not mean that he is a believer. I don't trust such statistics. Become Sunday near the nearest Church and count how many people it will come. Then compare this number with the number of people living in the area and you will be very disappointed with the result.

[Okurkabinladin]

Not every person confesses in interviews that he is an atheist. Many consider themselves automatically to the main faith in the country, but that does not mean that he is a believer. I don't trust such statistics. Become Sunday near the nearest Church and count how many people it will come. Then compare this number with the number of people living in the area and you will be very disappointed with the result.

Did it occur to you, that you dont have to visit church every other day to belive in God? It is not about materialism, sir.

Vice versa, only 20% of population of my country declared their religion, the rest didnt respond or stated atheist/agnostic - without doubt result of communist past. Yet, about 80% of funerals are attended by priests, people do pray in their personal life and believe in after life.

[sindikat]

Not every person confesses in interviews that he is an atheist. Many consider themselves automatically to the main faith in the country, but that does not mean that he is a believer. I don't trust such statistics. Become Sunday near the nearest Church and count how many people it will come. Then compare this number with the number of people living in the area and you will be very disappointed with the result.

Did it occur to you, that you dont have to visit church every other day to belive in God? It is not about materialism, sir.

Vice versa, only 20% of population of my country declared their religion, the rest didnt respond or stated atheist/agnostic - without doubt result of communist past. Yet, about 80% of funerals are attended by priests, people do pray in their personal life and believe in after life.

As for the funeral it was more of a tribute to traditions than the creed. As for attending Church every Christian needs on a Sunday (not every day) to visit the Church. All this indirectly confirms that to consider oneself a believer and to be so are two different things. Even Muslims who do not live in Islamic countries no longer follow the traditions of eating pork. I don't know about you, but for me this is not the sincerity of their feelings. And there are many such examples.

[Okurkabinladin]

Not every person confesses in interviews that he is an atheist. Many consider themselves automatically to the main faith in the country, but that does not mean that he is a believer. I don't trust such statistics. Become Sunday near the nearest Church and count how many people it will come. Then compare this number with the number of people living in the area and you will be very disappointed with the result.

Did it occur to you, that you dont have to visit church every other day to belive in God? It is not about materialism, sir.

Vice versa, only 20% of population of my country declared their religion, the rest didnt respond or stated atheist/agnostic - without doubt result of communist past. Yet, about 80% of funerals are attended by priests, people do pray in their personal life and believe in after life.

As for the funeral it was more of a tribute to traditions than the creed. As for attending Church every Christian needs on a Sunday (not every day) to visit the Church. All this indirectly confirms that to consider oneself a believer and to be so are two different things. Even Muslims who do not live in Islamic countries no longer follow the traditions of eating pork. I don't know about you, but for me this is not the sincerity of their feelings. And there are many such examples.

So, if you are in a place, which does not have church of your denomination (like in Russia or Turkey), you are all of sudden atheist without personal relationship with a God, did I understand you correctly?

Indeed many supposed rites are either ignored or flat out unknown to many believers, so? That doesnt make those people atheist, idea of God is inherently personal, they are bringing that idead whenever they go. Thats how it is.

By the way, in the early years of christianity, its followers were activelly hunted down by roman authorities. I am sure, that in those days people didnt have opportunity to visit church service at pretermined time then. Yet, they were still christians.

In similar fashion Soviet and chinese communists destroyed thousands of christian, muslim and budhist themples and murdered tens of thousands of priests and monks in cold blood. That didnt make people around them atheist either.

God is not present in stone, but in hearts and minds.