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July 10, 2017, 11:40:32 PM
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The reality of life is that we can't all be rich. However we want to have an equal distribution of wealth, there's just so much divisiveness wherever we go. Although there's plenty of wealth to be shared, but if you are among the top 100 richest persons in the world, are you willing to distribute 95% of your assets to people whom you are not sure can make those assets grow? Life continues to be unfair because only a few get to own most of the world's wealth while the rest continue to live lives full of struggles.

I agree with this although that it saddens me that this is the harsh reality of our society. No matter how hard we try to fight for equalism, the structure of our society dictates the distribution of wealth. We continuously fight for equality yet life is still unfair even if its already the 21st century. The cycle goes on and on, and everyone needs to work hard and strive to survive. The caveman age has passed yet its still the survival of the fittest.

Nice arguments were debated under this thread and I'm thiking the same thing. Most of people don't have access to wealth and good living conditions. Even in 21st century, this is a shame on us unfortunately. And there is nothing surprising to see everybody wants to get rich. ALL OF THEM!
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July 11, 2017, 01:23:18 PM
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Why people come to bitcoin and crypto-currencies? the main target of all of them is to follow the story of this guys who invested in Bitcoin several years ago and now they are reach, but I think this train was gone.
This is not my target to become rich with crypto-currencies, I would like to have like 500$ monthly from all this and I would be happy  Cheesy

No, they might be rich but definitely not reach.

And don't even dare to compare yourself to the pioneers of bitcoin.
Most of them didn't come for the money , they came for the concept of bitcoin and the advantages in transfers of value it might give to the world.

The rest on the other hand are in just for the money.

We are all dreaming of becoming rich one day. And we can see that it is possible to happen with bitcoin. All of us wants to secure our future and our way of living by becoming a secured person of earning good salary. But with bitcoin we want to make sure that everything is going to be abundant in terms of financial.

Tomorroww you will wake up and see that it is not possible Wink.

People have many reasons to say but depends on your view. As for me, I'm not thinking of getting rich but to live simply with peace of mind and having a positive life with my family. My aim is to experience the life of a bitcoiner who has been encountering many obstacles in life,financially thus, it's not about getting rich because it is by chance. If I want it then I must work for it so I could be one someday. However, I will be facing many challenges again especially people who aren't my close but trying to be closer because of money. Technically, they'll remember me because of something. That's reality.
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July 11, 2017, 09:29:37 PM
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you got the point there but of all people would be tich maybe the world will be in balance and people will become more lazy because they will buy new technologies that can help yhem more on there daily lives also there are people that money is not there happiness all they want is to have a safety living with their family those poeple who are alredy rich is just like wasting money for gambling than donating it to charity think it that many people now are in need of money than bad hobbies.
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July 14, 2017, 02:54:36 AM
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Just imagine. If ALL OF US would be rich, that means we would live our lives out from dividends, or any passive income of at least $1k a month. Then it would be jawesome, right ? Well, but then I do have a question.
WHO on this Earth would bake the bread for ALL OF US ?
Robots, you might say?
OK, nice idea.
But then, WHO on Earth would maintenance these robots ?
Another robots ?
I don't think so.
Even if so, even if there would be a Skynet of robots, who would not just bake the bread, but also harvest the grains, transport it, deliver to our doors. What then ?
We could eat for free, as much as you want?
Cool, but what about overweight then.
Doctor? But hey wait, NO ONE on this Earth work, so we have no doctors.
OK, we have Doctor Robots.
Who would teach our kids? Robots! Who would change the diapres? Robot!
Even if humans would master all this, we would need to have all the knowledge to teach our robots to work for us. To be slaves for us. (no minds, just pure robotic hands/arms and so on, Tesla's and autopilots)
But even then, there is one huge problem.
I do not want to touch any country, or race, or group of people, but imagine, if you put infinite amount of resources to any kind of animal (including humans), they would reproduce themselves to infinite. Because they simply can. Because parents do not need to parent their kids anymore, because we have robots! So we would need a limit of reproducing, no right to reproduce as much as you can handle (infinite resources), because we would simple have like 50-100billion people on this planet, and there would be no robots who could grow so much grains to bake bread. (perhaps hyper dense pills could be the away).
So, back to the original question, why do people believe, they all can be rich ?
It was, is, and will be, ALWAYS about that who is going to earn more, not enough, but more than the others.
Why?
If there is only one mansion on the Bahamas, which is large enough, sunny enough, sexy enough, there is no freaking way, ALL OF US could buy it. Just one. 1. One. And if only 10 buyers come with their million, to who would seller sell this mansion to? First ? But second also have million and ALL OF US want to be rich (own that one mansion). So second would have to offer 2 million, right?
Wrong.
No one would want to sell such mansion in the first place, as he is already rich. We all are.

There's no short cut for success. You need to take the stairs. It's a step by step basis.
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July 14, 2017, 05:55:40 AM
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Every people only wants in thier life is to be rich someday. Even i ,im tired being in a low class of living, because of what life i have to today,i need to save in order to live, if im only a rich man im not thinking  about financial problem anymore.

Yes everyone wants to be rich, but if all people are rich enough it is not good anymore. We should be concern unto balance. If there are rich there must be poor also. If all people are reach no one works for other people. Economy failure subsequently.

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July 14, 2017, 06:58:11 AM
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Yes. I want to be rich that is why  I am spending a lot of time in bitcoin right now. I am pushing myself to be more a hard working person because if I don't I will just waste my time. Time is very important so I will not do anything to waste it. All of us that do bitcoin wanta to be rich for sure.

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July 14, 2017, 07:32:17 AM
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Yes. I want to be rich that is why  I am spending a lot of time in bitcoin right now. I am pushing myself to be more a hard working person because if I don't I will just waste my time. Time is very important so I will not do anything to waste it. All of us that do bitcoin wanta to be rich for sure.

Hmmm. I don't think you have to work full time with bitcoin, unless you are doing trading. Because in trading you have to invest a lot of time in it. And don't rush things mate, it will come to you. You might drain yourself because of rushing things and you might end up losing. Just take your time and everything will fall into places. I myself, was like you before, then I realized that I'm pushing myself resulting in me getting physical drain and sick sometimes. I made some adjustment and just take it slowly. Because I really believed that everything will fall into places at the right time and place.

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July 14, 2017, 08:00:12 AM
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Yes. I want to be rich that is why  I am spending a lot of time in bitcoin right now. I am pushing myself to be more a hard working person because if I don't I will just waste my time. Time is very important so I will not do anything to waste it. All of us that do bitcoin wanta to be rich for sure.
ues  i agree on you i also believe that the time is gold everybody want to be  rich had to spend  a lot of money in doing some profitable  action .like spending a  lot of time on it.make profit and have some fucos start believing in your self .that  we can do it in many ways
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July 14, 2017, 09:10:58 AM
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Yes. I want to be rich that is why  I am spending a lot of time in bitcoin right now. I am pushing myself to be more a hard working person because if I don't I will just waste my time. Time is very important so I will not do anything to waste it. All of us that do bitcoin wanta to be rich for sure.
You know, the results will not betray the process. If you have tried very hard and work with passion of course the result will be good also. I'm sure if you work hard in earnest of course the wealth is what you will get. Many people work hard even work full time in bitcoin and they get the wealth from bitcoin
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July 14, 2017, 09:17:34 AM
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Yes. I want to be rich that is why  I am spending a lot of time in bitcoin right now. I am pushing myself to be more a hard working person because if I don't I will just waste my time. Time is very important so I will not do anything to waste it. All of us that do bitcoin wanta to be rich for sure.
You know, the results will not betray the process. If you have tried very hard and work with passion of course the result will be good also. I'm sure if you work hard in earnest of course the wealth is what you will get. Many people work hard even work full time in bitcoin and they get the wealth from bitcoin

It's because the high bitcoin price, so people will be ready to use their time just to find and earn the bitcoin. Yes time is everything, we must use our time as well as possible for our own good in the future.
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July 14, 2017, 11:34:46 AM
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ofcourse i want to be rich , but i dont want to spend my all time for bitcoin ofcourse i will spend the most my time to spiritual , and if i have some free time i'll go here
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July 14, 2017, 11:40:09 AM
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I just want to give a little food for thought. My post is not to suggest any ideology. Im just pointing out, that OP point of view is based only on ideology and not a possible solutions.

Just imagine. If ALL OF US would be rich, that means we would live our lives out from dividends, or any passive income of at least $1k a month. Then it would be jawesome, right ? Well, but then I do have a question.
WHO on this Earth would bake the bread for ALL OF US ?


The food part is tricky. There are a lot of people that enjoy making their own meals. Like me. For the rest of the people if they are more wealthy why not eat something better that requires less work to do. Why bread? Slow food and the least processed food is the future. Bread would be eaten by weirdos in the future.

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Robots, you might say?
OK, nice idea.
But then, WHO on Earth would maintenance these robots ?
Another robots ?
I don't think so.

Superiourly design economy is an economy with least amount of work needed. Maybe there would be a need for a little of work. But if this work would be only little with the ammount of people having a lot time, I suppose some work would be like a hobby to some people.


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Cool, but what about overweight then.
Doctor? But hey wait, NO ONE on this Earth work, so we have no doctors.
OK, we have Doctor Robots.

I will answer with quoting Hipocrates. "The greatest medicine of all is teaching people how not to need it". If a society would be highly educated sickness would be rare, so in case of some patient that would need a medicine its uses would be so rare that it could be settled by a hobbyist.

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Who would teach our kids? Robots!

No not robots. People would have all of the education videos, that the teacher should be obsolete. It already is. We just keep teachers to dumb the childrens down and to punish them in the boxes called shools.

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I do not want to touch any country, or race, or group of people, but imagine, if you put infinite amount of resources to any kind of animal (including humans), they would reproduce themselves to infinite.

Well.... Some bacterias have almost infinite living tissue to inhabit. Why doesnt it grow to infinity, or at least to inhabit all tissues in the world? Are you reffering to Malthus and the social darwinism theory? He was proven time and time again to be absolutely wrong.

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Because they simply can. Because parents do not need to parent their kids anymore, because we have robots!

Are you suggesting that given the right enviroment having a kids is not a pure joy?


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So we would need a limit of reproducing, no right to reproduce as much as you can handle (infinite resources), because we would simple have like 50-100billion people on this planet, and there would be no robots who could grow so much grains to bake bread. (perhaps hyper dense pills could be the away).


Are you reffering to Malthus again? He was proven absolutely wrong.

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So, back to the original question, why do people believe, they all can be rich ?

We are all relativly richer than in the middle ages. We are all rich. Your statement is answered.

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It was, is, and will be, ALWAYS about that who is going to earn more, not enough, but more than the others.
Why?

There will always be inequality if the economy based on rent and the debt will prevail. There is no run away from it.

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If there is only one mansion on the Bahamas, which is large enough, sunny enough, sexy enough, there is no freaking way, ALL OF US could buy it. Just one. 1. One. And if only 10 buyers come with their million, to who would seller sell this mansion to? First ? But second also have million and ALL OF US want to be rich (own that one mansion). So second would have to offer 2 million, right?
Wrong.
No one would want to sell such mansion in the first place, as he is already rich. We all are.

Question is this. If having an excess wealth would be in a good taste to have in the future. If it would be socialy awkward , people would not desire to have things they do not need, not to be pointed fingers at.

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July 14, 2017, 11:41:14 AM
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ofcourse i really want to , or i mean we all really want to i guess , just effort and patience

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July 14, 2017, 06:04:53 PM
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ofcourse i really want to , or i mean we all really want to i guess , just effort and patience
I agree, buy bitcoin then hold and be patient waiting for at least 3 years then we can get rich. Many predictions are proven true about the future of bitcoin and we should not hesitate to invest bitcoin.
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July 14, 2017, 07:11:34 PM
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ofcourse i really want to , or i mean we all really want to i guess , just effort and patience
I agree, buy bitcoin then hold and be patient waiting for at least 3 years then we can get rich. Many predictions are proven true about the future of bitcoin and we should not hesitate to invest bitcoin.
Proven by what means ? We are all just speculating about the bright future of bitcoins and it does not mean we may not hesitate to invest with it. If you will not hesitate then you may go all-in which is not at all recommended as bitcoin ecosystem is still under testing phases but running for years stable. Investing into bitcoin is good but do it up to the level of your affordability allows.
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July 14, 2017, 07:20:37 PM
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Just imagine. If ALL OF US would be rich, that means we would live our lives out from dividends, or any passive income of at least $1k a month. Then it would be jawesome, right ? Well, but then I do have a question.
WHO on this Earth would bake the bread for ALL OF US ?
Robots, you might say?
OK, nice idea.
But then, WHO on Earth would maintenance these robots ?
Another robots ?
I don't think so.
Even if so, even if there would be a Skynet of robots, who would not just bake the bread, but also harvest the grains, transport it, deliver to our doors. What then ?
We could eat for free, as much as you want?
Cool, but what about overweight then.
Doctor? But hey wait, NO ONE on this Earth work, so we have no doctors.
OK, we have Doctor Robots.
Who would teach our kids? Robots! Who would change the diapres? Robot!
Even if humans would master all this, we would need to have all the knowledge to teach our robots to work for us. To be slaves for us. (no minds, just pure robotic hands/arms and so on, Tesla's and autopilots)
But even then, there is one huge problem.
I do not want to touch any country, or race, or group of people, but imagine, if you put infinite amount of resources to any kind of animal (including humans), they would reproduce themselves to infinite. Because they simply can. Because parents do not need to parent their kids anymore, because we have robots! So we would need a limit of reproducing, no right to reproduce as much as you can handle (infinite resources), because we would simple have like 50-100billion people on this planet, and there would be no robots who could grow so much grains to bake bread. (perhaps hyper dense pills could be the away).
So, back to the original question, why do people believe, they all can be rich ?
It was, is, and will be, ALWAYS about that who is going to earn more, not enough, but more than the others.
Why?
If there is only one mansion on the Bahamas, which is large enough, sunny enough, sexy enough, there is no freaking way, ALL OF US could buy it. Just one. 1. One. And if only 10 buyers come with their million, to who would seller sell this mansion to? First ? But second also have million and ALL OF US want to be rich (own that one mansion). So second would have to offer 2 million, right?
Wrong.
No one would want to sell such mansion in the first place, as he is already rich. We all are.

You've asked too many question but I still cant see someone earning a 1k dollars in a month without work? even the seamans who are working rigorously earning up to 6000 dollars a month is still working. If you're saying that everyone is too lazy to work because they have an easy money every month then, who will maintenace the robot? and what about those people who are passionate about their work? you cant stop them from working and people are greedy enough to be a slave of a non stop work just to earn large amount of money.
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July 14, 2017, 07:34:36 PM
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Op, I think let work hard to be rich first then who will work for each others will be secondary. If all of us became rich scientists will developed machine that will do everything for us they may not be need to buy a house but if the need arises robot can build mansion and roads for are use.
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July 14, 2017, 08:21:34 PM
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This sounds quite funny Smiley
C'mon everyone can't be rich, but what we all pray is just to have a very comfortable life. Being able to afford your basic necessities and also live happy. Till the end of this world, everyone can't be rich.
Talking about robots, since no one is working, then who will build those robots?,
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Op, I think let work hard to be rich first then who will work for each others will be secondary. If all of us became rich scientists will developed machine that will do everything for us they may not be need to buy a house but if the need arises robot can build mansion and roads for are use.
yes although everyone want to be rich in gambling but in fact there are some factors where we are depending to be rich.  the first is the investment you have, and the second is your experience and your skill. if you have a good amount of money that you can invest in a business, so with the increasing amount of money the chances of making money is also increasing.
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July 15, 2017, 12:15:04 AM
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Being rich by definition means that you can afford more things than others, especially scarce things. So, obviously everyone can't be rich as long as scarce goods exist. But quality of life quickly improves thanks to technological developments, and some goods stop being expensive. Stuff like Internet connection, mobile phones or even TV used to be quite expensive and at first, and accessible only for the rich, but nowdays they've become very cheap and common. So it's not impossible that in 100 years most people will live lives that are considered luxurious by today's standards.
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