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Crashing? What are you talking about? The FIAT price is still same for toa and hasnt changed. Only the ratio between btc/toa has changed because of btc rise....
as long as toa is keeping its fiat price at the same level, there is nothing to worry about
then you certainly don't understand trading cryptocurrency. price is pegged against bitcoin NOT fiat. how did you get hold of your toa? through ICO or through swapping pesobit to toa? either way, just to inform/educate you, the dev team collected amounts in terms of bitcoin and accordingly issued the number of tokens due to investors. what was the price when you initially received your coins if you were an ICO participant? now, at what price did you buy your PSB - if you swapped to TOA? if you weren't an ICO participant, at what price did you buy TOA in the exchanges that offer toa? if you're happy with toa just keeping the fiat price fixed at what - less than 0.01 usd? then that means there will be no profit to be gained from buying or selling toa since it will always have the same fiat currency value! you're losing in terms of bitcoin. you bought toa in terms of bitcoin and don't realize that you're losing?! if you're fine with that, well that's you. don't give others the illusion that they're gaining when in fact, they're losing a lot! I calculate with fiat because i trade on exchanges and it resembles better what the asset is worth to people. If i compare to what could have been if i kept btc then its speculation and not investing. If you make a bad decision on speculation then its not job of the toa foundation to match your expectation in my personal opinion. If btc falls and toa rises in btc value to keep fiat price would you say the toa foundation did exceptional work? In the end people value assets still to fiat. Might be other case in ico or swaps of course. Then your view might match better but since i bought them on exchange... awesome ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) at what price did you get them? congratulations, you're doing great ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) same fiat price as it is now. keeping for longterm and maybe use it for the service toa offers. if toa builds their service in coffeeshop like apple shop, i.e. with branding feeling, it could trend. there arent many capsule hotels yet so who knows. for speculations and making money, there are far better coins than toa. toa is more like a hobby hehe
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December 07, 2017, 06:22:41 PM Last edit: December 07, 2017, 06:38:17 PM by Noojna |
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Crashing? What are you talking about? The FIAT price is still same for toa and hasnt changed. Only the ratio between btc/toa has changed because of btc rise....
as long as toa is keeping its fiat price at the same level, there is nothing to worry about
then you certainly don't understand trading cryptocurrency. price is pegged against bitcoin NOT fiat. how did you get hold of your toa? through ICO or through swapping pesobit to toa? either way, just to inform/educate you, the dev team collected amounts in terms of bitcoin and accordingly issued the number of tokens due to investors. what was the price when you initially received your coins if you were an ICO participant? now, at what price did you buy your PSB - if you swapped to TOA? if you weren't an ICO participant, at what price did you buy TOA in the exchanges that offer toa? if you're happy with toa just keeping the fiat price fixed at what - less than 0.01 usd? then that means there will be no profit to be gained from buying or selling toa since it will always have the same fiat currency value! you're losing in terms of bitcoin. you bought toa in terms of bitcoin and don't realize that you're losing?! if you're fine with that, well that's you. don't give others the illusion that they're gaining when in fact, they're losing a lot! I calculate with fiat because i trade on exchanges and it resembles better what the asset is worth to people. If i compare to what could have been if i kept btc then its speculation and not investing. If you make a bad decision on speculation then its not job of the toa foundation to match your expectation in my personal opinion. If btc falls and toa rises in btc value to keep fiat price would you say the toa foundation did exceptional work? In the end people value assets still to fiat. Might be other case in ico or swaps of course. Then your view might match better but since i bought them on exchange... awesome ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) at what price did you get them? congratulations, you're doing great ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) same fiat price as it is now. keeping for longterm and maybe use it for the service toa offers. if toa builds their service in coffeeshop like apple shop, i.e. with branding feeling, it could trend. there arent many capsule hotels yet so who knows. for speculations and making money, there are far better coins than toa. toa is more like a hobby hehe Yes, TOA's price staying the same in Fiat but going down in BTC makes potential investors think they should better stay with BTC. It would be better if satoshi value of TOA remained the same or went up, so investors feel an appetite for TOA, otherwise they will feel safer with BTC.
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hopefully can take part in this project .. very interesting project. good luck
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Yes, TOA's price staying the same in Fiat but going down in BTC makes potential investors think they should better stay with BTC.
It would be better if satoshi value of TOA remained the same or went up, so investors feel an appetite for TOA, otherwise they will feel safer with BTC.
You're absolutely right, Noojna! That's my point! How can toa win investors when all they see is a crashing price? What's happening to toa right now after that expo in the US? Is there anyone in charge of trading and promotions? I assume they have someone handling those two areas? And, I'd also assume that the person/s handling trading understand the dynamics of trading toa against btc and/or other toa trading pairs.... like I said a few posts back, x snip x to illustrate altcoin-bitcoin dynamics, let's use toa-btc pair since we're at the toa thread: my 1m psb was swapped to toa and the toa-btc price at that time was 120 sats to 1 toa and the equivalent of that in my currency was roughly 0.50 centavos. in usd, that's roughly 0.01 usd. since we're not all Filipinos here, let's use the usd equivalent so if 120 sats = 0.01 usd and 120 sats = 1 toa, then: 1. when btc's usd value goes up (as is happening with bitcoin now) and toa's value against btc holds, then the usd value of toa goes up. for example, 1 toa = 120 satoshis = 0.02usd ; the btc-toa pair value didn't change but btc-usd value increased. (i would have gained in terms of usd) 2. when btc's usd value goes down and toa's btc value holds, then toa's usd value goes down. (i would assume that's self explanatory) 3. if the usd value of toa holds while the usd value of btc is rising, then toa's btc value drops. (as is the case right now - it's actually plummeting!!!) 4. if btc's usd value is rising and toa's btc value is rising at the same time, then toa's usd value grows exponentially! (the toa community would be happy and word would spread about toa, and this would actually lure more people to support toa! unfortunately, toa's promotions team and trading team are what....? ![Lips sealed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/lipsrsealed.gif) ) 5. if btc's usd value falls at the same time that toa's btc value falls, then toa's usd value plummets - killing it. just because btc is pumping, doesn't mean that toa's bitcoin price should go down to the equivalent of fiat currency - 0.50 centavos, right ? what are the devs thinking?
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December 08, 2017, 05:19:50 PM Last edit: December 08, 2017, 07:22:33 PM by Noojna |
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You're absolutely right, Noojna! That's my point! How can toa win investors when all they see is a crashing price? What's happening to toa right now after that expo in the US? Is there anyone in charge of trading and promotions? I assume they have someone handling those two areas? And, I'd also assume that the person/s handling trading understand the dynamics of trading toa against btc and/or other toa trading pairs.... like I said a few posts back,
just because btc is pumping, doesn't mean that toa's bitcoin price should go down to the equivalent of fiat currency - 0.50 centavos, right ? what are the devs thinking?
A lot of coins are getting a good BTC beating these days, so it's not too surprising to see TOA getting slammed too. Historically, when BTC comes back and corrects itself, many coins go up, because of all new wealth traders are enjoying and all the new money coming into crypto markets. Let's hope this drop in BTC price for TOA is seen as a buying opportunity and doesn't last too long. TOA team is opening real offices in Manila and Kuala Lumpur, hiring fulltime employees; there are real investors supporting TOA with big plans. I am just surprised they don't post here the exciting development news here more often, because there really is something going on.
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December 08, 2017, 09:09:23 PM |
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Crashing? What are you talking about? The FIAT price is still same for toa and hasnt changed. Only the ratio between btc/toa has changed because of btc rise....
as long as toa is keeping its fiat price at the same level, there is nothing to worry about
then you certainly don't understand trading cryptocurrency. price is pegged against bitcoin NOT fiat. how did you get hold of your toa? through ICO or through swapping pesobit to toa? either way, just to inform/educate you, the dev team collected amounts in terms of bitcoin and accordingly issued the number of tokens due to investors. what was the price when you initially received your coins if you were an ICO participant? now, at what price did you buy your PSB - if you swapped to TOA? if you weren't an ICO participant, at what price did you buy TOA in the exchanges that offer toa? if you're happy with toa just keeping the fiat price fixed at what - less than 0.01 usd? then that means there will be no profit to be gained from buying or selling toa since it will always have the same fiat currency value! you're losing in terms of bitcoin. you bought toa in terms of bitcoin and don't realize that you're losing?! if you're fine with that, well that's you. don't give others the illusion that they're gaining when in fact, they're losing a lot! I calculate with fiat because i trade on exchanges and it resembles better what the asset is worth to people. If i compare to what could have been if i kept btc then its speculation and not investing. If you make a bad decision on speculation then its not job of the toa foundation to match your expectation in my personal opinion. If btc falls and toa rises in btc value to keep fiat price would you say the toa foundation did exceptional work? In the end people value assets still to fiat. Might be other case in ico or swaps of course. Then your view might match better but since i bought them on exchange... It is a stupidity if you calculate the rate of TOA to fiat when in reality, you trade BTC vs.TOA. They think it is ok just like what they did on PSB SHIT SCAM.
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December 09, 2017, 12:41:37 PM |
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well, as I said natal is the moment when the TOA will start to die.correctly made what Prada this shit coin
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TOA team joins the Crypto Currency Expo Malaysia Dec 11-12, 201, 2017 at the Le Meridien Hotel and we are a Silver Sponsor of this event. Richard Park our Chief Operations Officer talks about the benefits and challenges of adopting blockchain technology for different industries. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fa5BTxzZ.png&t=665&c=vZnEpJ7oinOPqA)
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TOA team joins the Crypto Currency Expo Malaysia Dec 11-12, 201, 2017 at the Le Meridien Hotel and we are a Silver Sponsor of this event. Richard Park our Chief Operations Officer talks about the benefits and challenges of adopting blockchain technology for different industries. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fa5BTxzZ.png&t=665&c=vZnEpJ7oinOPqA) Nice to see the TOA team is active and going places! Keep up the good work and TOA will flourish.
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That concludes the 2nd and last day of the Blockchain Expo at the Santa Clara Convention Center in Silicon Valley, USA. Individuals and companies from different parts of the world visited the TOA booth to learn about our cryptocurrency products and services. The team will integrate all the knowledge they have gained in the event to create a stronger TOA coin. Watch out for our upcoming activites and projects that will benefit all TOA users and investors. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOGPm02H.png&t=665&c=tjMZ6EnK2AKIqw) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Ffbmk7Ik.png&t=665&c=3AV9IPIH2URqTw) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FzE1F3km.png&t=665&c=-XWqxFuCHj31Xw)
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Interesting, keep my eye on
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December 14, 2017, 11:11:23 PM Last edit: December 15, 2017, 07:48:52 AM by criminalbee |
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Interesting, keep my eye on
You should really keep an eye on one of this team. He is the dev of dead shitcoin named PSB am i right? Everything he touches became shit. You may take a look at TOA price right now as a proof of his existence.
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December 15, 2017, 06:59:04 PM Last edit: December 15, 2017, 07:15:07 PM by Noojna |
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Interesting, keep my eye on
You should really keep an eye on one of this team. He is the dev of dead shitcoin named PSB am i right? Everything he touches became shit. You may take a look at TOA price right now as a proof of his existence. There is only one kind of person who never makes mistakes, it is the one who never tries anything new. After trying and failing a bunch of times, every successful man will find his success and achievement eventually; I am staying with this dev, because I know that one day success will find him. Price of TOA is influenced by the market, he does not control the market. Bitcoin too, was very low for a very long time before it was able to climb.
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when all altcoins are rising TOA is drooping
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December 18, 2017, 11:29:01 PM |
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Price of TOA is influenced by the market
yes, influenced by dwindling market trust. other alts are achieving new all-time highs. it's not always true that alts take a beating when bitcoin price moves forward. for example digibyte and xtrabytes broke away from 120 satoshis. toa on the other hand, was 120 sats but tumbled and continues to tumble. i agree that former psb dev doesn't have any control over toa price movements but whoever is in charge of trading and marketing probably isn't doing a good job at building trust or a community that will help toa grow. it's turning into a coin fit for dumping -- just to produce bitcoins. the toa dev is admirable though - in that he's doing all these PR stuff and participating in blockchain fora and setting up toa hubs/cafes to make toa a useful coin. hope his effort pays off and should reflect in toa price surging NOT plunging
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Block explorer does not appear to function(is there a functioning blockchain?) Slack link on website goes to nothing No twitter account connected to coinmarketcap POW/POS branding is misleading, incorrectly marked “mineable” on coinmarketcap Little to no github commits in 6 months? Unclear how many active devs TOA has, including the peso dev? You've shown pictures of interviews with the devs, where are the interviews?
If space hub is now a backing asset, was the recent opening a hard or soft one? how is it doing? Where are the local reviews, numbers, outline of full amenities, etc would all be helpful.
What is the timeline for future developments, i.e.: booking/checking in directly via TOA, tiered TOA-holder perks, physical brand expansion, etc.
Where are these pods coming from? do you have a deal with a manufacturer, do you design them yourselves, etc? Are there plans to forge deals with other industries in the space like digital vending machines or float pods?
What is the vision for this project from here, minus all the sterilized marketing being employed currently?
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December 21, 2017, 07:18:43 AM Last edit: December 21, 2017, 09:13:44 AM by Noojna |
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Block explorer does not appear to function(is there a functioning blockchain?) Slack link on website goes to nothing No twitter account connected to coinmarketcap POW/POS branding is misleading, incorrectly marked “mineable” on coinmarketcap Little to no github commits in 6 months? Unclear how many active devs TOA has, including the peso dev? You've shown pictures of interviews with the devs, where are the interviews?
If space hub is now a backing asset, was the recent opening a hard or soft one? how is it doing? Where are the local reviews, numbers, outline of full amenities, etc would all be helpful.
What is the timeline for future developments, i.e.: booking/checking in directly via TOA, tiered TOA-holder perks, physical brand expansion, etc.
Where are these pods coming from? do you have a deal with a manufacturer, do you design them yourselves, etc? Are there plans to forge deals with other industries in the space like digital vending machines or float pods?
What is the vision for this project from here, minus all the sterilized marketing being employed currently?
I really appreciate reading intelligent criticism and good direct questions aimed at the TOA team; and accordingly I will let them answer your questions. I am not a TOA dev, but I do talk to them, so just allow me to share what I know: TOA's Block explorer was moved to CryptoID ( https://chainz.cryptoid.info/toa/), they should remove the link from the website soon. TOA's code does include POW, but it is disabled now and TOA is definitely not mineable other than staking. As we know, TOA is a risky investment, and this is reflected in current market price; we invest in risky investments to achieve higher returns on our money, this is obvious. TOA's unique approach is to first build some real value, infrastructure, business partnerships and real places to use it before starting to publicise it in a big way. Most coins go the other way: they claim, they are great, why? Crickets. Most coins and many tokens are merely speculative empty shells. It will be real market demand and economic pressure that will soon move TOA'S value, before speculation. Speculation and even higher prices will trigger as investors/speculators realise that TOA delivers their promises.
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Block explorer does not appear to function(is there a functioning blockchain?) Slack link on website goes to nothing No twitter account connected to coinmarketcap POW/POS branding is misleading, incorrectly marked “mineable” on coinmarketcap Little to no github commits in 6 months? Unclear how many active devs TOA has, including the peso dev? You've shown pictures of interviews with the devs, where are the interviews?
If space hub is now a backing asset, was the recent opening a hard or soft one? how is it doing? Where are the local reviews, numbers, outline of full amenities, etc would all be helpful.
What is the timeline for future developments, i.e.: booking/checking in directly via TOA, tiered TOA-holder perks, physical brand expansion, etc.
Where are these pods coming from? do you have a deal with a manufacturer, do you design them yourselves, etc? Are there plans to forge deals with other industries in the space like digital vending machines or float pods?
What is the vision for this project from here, minus all the sterilized marketing being employed currently?
Thank you for your feedback and questions. We had a Soft Opening of Spacehub last end of October and even though there were many customers these past few weeks we're still working on improving the experience of each customers. However, we're already working in setting one up in Manila for next year and targetting to open around mid of next year. It may or may not have the capsule hotel as it will depend on the area where we will set it up. The pods are ordered from a manufacturer. Future plans will include other projects like Remittance, E-commerce, Freelancing, Online Booking etc. We want TOA to be usable on many industries but we work on them carefully as everything must be handled legally. So we always consult with a lawyer, register the business and make sure that all processes will be in an official business setup. We will definitely post announcement for our progress and future developments.
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You're absolutely right, Noojna! That's my point! How can toa win investors when all they see is a crashing price? What's happening to toa right now after that expo in the US? Is there anyone in charge of trading and promotions? I assume they have someone handling those two areas? And, I'd also assume that the person/s handling trading understand the dynamics of trading toa against btc and/or other toa trading pairs.... like I said a few posts back,
just because btc is pumping, doesn't mean that toa's bitcoin price should go down to the equivalent of fiat currency - 0.50 centavos, right ? what are the devs thinking?
A lot of coins are getting a good BTC beating these days, so it's not too surprising to see TOA getting slammed too. Historically, when BTC comes back and corrects itself, many coins go up, because of all new wealth traders are enjoying and all the new money coming into crypto markets. Let's hope this drop in BTC price for TOA is seen as a buying opportunity and doesn't last too long. TOA team is opening real offices in Manila and Kuala Lumpur, hiring fulltime employees; there are real investors supporting TOA with big plans. I am just surprised they don't post here the exciting development news here more often, because there really is something going on. Thanks for the confidence in us Noojna. We will definitely post our progress and future developments. Currently we are carefully planning for execution and most of them are in consulting stage to legally set it up to be usable for various industries. Future plans will include other projects like Remittance, E-Commerce, Freelancing, Online Booking etc.
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