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July 06, 2017, 01:38:05 AM
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What advice would you give a HS senior in US about to decide on and/or enter college ?

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yes you should go to college. There are more opportunities when you are a degree holder.

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July 06, 2017, 02:01:16 AM
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yes you should go to college. There are more opportunities when you are a degree holder.

Yeah i know that but Americans gaining a loan in college is big problem Sad Sad

I'm not lucky

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July 06, 2017, 02:09:44 AM
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Well, I don't live in the US so I don't know if my advice would have any weight to it but I've been reading different articles and they all say having a degree increases the pay you would get over your entire working years.

I'm assuming though that there in the US, non-college graduates have a lot more opportunities. Here in my country it's ridiculous, I've seen cafes requiring their baristas to have a bachelor's degree, as if that would help them brew better coffee.

I think it really depends on what field you want to enter, some may not really require a college degree. If your chosen field does, then just take advantage of the student loan, we don't have that here, you definitely have more options. Weigh how much you think you would earn and how long it would take you to pay of that loan.

Good luck on your journey.
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July 06, 2017, 02:13:39 AM
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Hi everyone,

What advice would you give a HS senior in US about to decide on and/or enter college ?

Referring to those bitcoin users who doesn't want to go to college because of profits they are receiving in bitcoin)

Even with bitcoin on our side, and there are proofs that bitcoin can take us to success even without going to college, it's not making sense to me. Prior to bitcoin existence, diploma is one of the great achievement in our life so better goal for it not because of the money.

Back to topic, simple advice as "GO TO COLLEGE and FINISH YOUR GOAL". Make yourself proud especially your parents or guardians who funded your education along the way.
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What advice would you give a HS senior in US about to decide on and/or enter college ?

yes you should go to college. There are more opportunities when you are a degree holder.

Yeah i know that but Americans gaining a loan in college is big problem Sad Sad

I'm not lucky
My daughter is very bright top in all subjects and she is going to college in the next 12 months
to get her A levels which is free..

Do you call college university or do you have to pay for both?..

See why i have popped up is because when my daughter goes to university she will be stuck with a
59k debt when she leaves university..

But we didn't have to pay it back until you earned 21k a year ..

But now they have put it down to 17k to start paying it back..
Now the trouble is how many will be going for the same jobs as you are with the same degrees?..

Also in work how many get a job because it's who they KNOW..

NOW in the USA do you have to pay your student debt back no matter what?..

Because if you do GOD HELP YOU Cry Cry..

When i was young not so long ago i never had to pay anything to be EDUCATED ..
No one did ..

BUT these GREEDY ASS HOLE politicians turned you into debt slaves to line them and there cronies
pockets..

I mean this guy as eating half the USA by the looks of the guy..chris christie Wink..
FED ON ALL YOUR TAXES ..

1 billion he spent on DOUGHNUTS and chomped the lot in 1 sitting..

So you need to think will AI or a robot possibly take the job what i am about to study for..

Care will be needed ..
doctors will be needed..
Plumbers will be needed very hard to get a robot to do plumbing  Wink..Getting under sinks  Wink
solar and wind industries ..


Biggest industry the medical industry ..PEOPLE will pay anything to LIVE.. Wink
And the fact more old than ever before..

Plus you will easy get a job as a doctor .Hard work though long hours But good pay if in the USA..

BUT believe me you young ADULTS have it way worse than we ever did when we was growing up..
SO GOOD LUCK and i hope you do well in life..

LIVE LONG AND PROSPER.. Grin
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Americans Are Paying $38 to Collect $1 of Student Debt - Bloomberg
https://www.bloomberg.com/.../americans-are-paying-38-to-collect-1-of-student-debt
19 May 2017 - Student loan defaults are a bonanza for the debt collection industry. ... Americans Are Paying $38 to Collect $1 of Student Debt ... why this step isn't completed, and distressed borrowers are left stuck in debt collectors' sights.

Age 60, Nearing Retirement … and Still Stuck With Student Debt
time.com/money/4624350/older-borrowers-student-debt-retirement/
5 Jan 2017 - Age 60, Nearing Retirement … and Still Stuck With Student Debt. ... The number of older borrowers with outstanding student loan debt hit 2.8 million in 2015—a whopping four times the number a decade earlier. ... Overall, Americans 60 and older owed a total $66.7 billion in student ...

I am 65 and stuck with student loan debt. What do I do? – Advancing ...
https://advancingsmartly.org/.../i-am-65-and-stuck-with-student-loan-debt-what-do-i-...
3 May 2016 - According to data compiled by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, “Americans 50 and older with student loan debt increased from 3 million

America's Student Debt Crisis: Jessie's Story | Consumer ... - YouTube
Video for americans students stuck with debt youtube▶ 13:38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqzEcER8AJA
28 Jun 2016 - Uploaded by Consumer Reports
America's Student Debt Crisis: Jessie's Story | Consumer Reports. Consumer .... The old people are now ...


THE BRITISH are trying to RAPE our children's FUTURE and put them in DEBT.. Angry Angry..

We the UK will not be paying no STUDENT DEBTS BACK not ever..

STUDENT don't pay one penny back..
JEREMY WILL SCRAP THE LOT SOON.. Grin..

You TORIES are doing an AMERICAN STYLE system THE SHITTIEST system of all..

NO MONEY DIE in the USA..No cares..

Now i might have my daughter do one of these ..
Get info → Apprenticeships - Higher Apprenticeships — Career Pilot
www.careerpilot.org.uk › Get Info
Higher Apprenticeships. In this section: If you have achieved 5 good GCSES (grades A*-C) and good post 16 results at Level 3 (A levels, BTECs, Advanced Apprenticeship, etc.) you might be interested in looking at an Higher Apprenticeship.

NO PAYING NOTHING BACK..

But they have done it so the RICH can go and get the best degrees and the best jobs..
Because less likely they go to university if poor ..

Record gap between rich and poor students winning university places ...
www.independent.co.uk › News › Education › Education News
14 Dec 2016 - The gap between rich and poor students being granted university ... a long-time indicator of poverty – are less than half as likely to enter ... White, working-class boys are least likely to go on to higher education. ... “It is shameful that the gap is widening between rich and poor children entering university, and .


Number of poor students attending UK's leading universities falls ...
www.independent.co.uk › News › Education › Education News
18 Feb 2016 - Oxford has fewer working-class students than any other Russell Group ... Whilst more poor children are going to university, the new figures ... more likely to enter a leading university than their state school colleagues. .... from low socio-economic backgrounds went to a Russell Group university than in 2009.
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This is how bad the BBC are BORRIS JOHNSON brother is something to do with EDUCATION Roll Eyes..

Yes another IDIOT wiff waff brother..
Now today you said more poor are going to university than ever before  Cheesy..
What a liar..

Poor Scots four times less likely to get place at university than teens ...
www.express.co.uk › News › UK
27 May 2016 - Scots from disadvantaged areas face a 'shocking access gap' and are four times less likely to go to university than those from wealthy

now we have people like this who go to university
Boris Johnson gets stuck on a zip wire (long version) - YouTube
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Mayor of London Boris Johnson gets stuck on a London 2012 Olympic Games zip line in Victoria Park .

NOW WE COULD HAVE STUDENTS LIKE BELOW..

Bright pupils more likely to fall behind if from poor background, study ... Education › A-levels
16 Mar 2015 - Oxford University study finds that poorer students' are considerably less likely to study the sort of A-levels that will help them get into leading universities ..

This is what most politicians are like in the uk ..

Harry Enfield - Tim Nice But Dim (Armed Robbery) - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1f8UOWF4RY

YES and these types of people are running our UK  Angry Angry

Only see the money nothing else ..SCUM OF THE EARTH  Wink..Greedy OH they need stringing up Angry

PUTTING OUR CHILDREN IN DEBT ..

Lets just say this you politicians have destroyed the UK.... DESTROYED IT..

Tim Nice But Dim but knows how to rob the children's FUTURE..
THE TORIES snooty horrible people..

And next ELECTION i promis you will never ever get back in power for 100 years NOT EVER..

THE NASTY NASTY NASTY party..

Worse than THATCHER  Angry..And she was horrible

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July 06, 2017, 03:13:23 AM
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If it is free or cheap, then I would go for it. A university degree can transfer to other jobs other than just what your major was. If you have to get into tens of thousands of dollars worth of debt to graduate, make sure your degree is worth something in the job market (STEM not liberal arts Wink).

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July 06, 2017, 03:25:52 AM
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If it is free or cheap, then I would go for it. A university degree can transfer to other jobs other than just what your major was. If you have to get into tens of thousands of dollars worth of debt to graduate, make sure your degree is worth something in the job market (STEM not liberal arts Wink).

Neither free nor cheap. Especially in USA education system is ruining the lives of many talented students. Universities may provide quality education but at what cost.?
The student debt is a big problem and we have to solve it.


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July 06, 2017, 03:45:54 AM
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If it is free or cheap, then I would go for it. A university degree can transfer to other jobs other than just what your major was. If you have to get into tens of thousands of dollars worth of debt to graduate, make sure your degree is worth something in the job market (STEM not liberal arts Wink).

Neither free nor cheap. Especially in USA education system is ruining the lives of many talented students. Universities may provide quality education but at what cost.?
The student debt is a big problem and we have to solve it.

i agree that it is the best way i know of but there might be a better way waiting for the public to notice ...

The school system is a waste of time

" I loathed every day and regret every moment i spent in a school " - Woody Allen


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July 06, 2017, 04:01:27 AM
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Well that depends on you bro, you dont need others to decide what path you should take. Remember whatever you might think on doing in your life. Always remember that you are right. But all i can do for you is recommend some suggestions, if you have a goal in life like a dream job then you should probably take college and pursue the course/field that you want but if you have a different goal in mind like investing in bitcoin and being apart with us the new rich gentlemen in the future. This digital currency might solve all your problems plus bitcoin is decentralized.














 

 

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July 06, 2017, 04:28:00 AM
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Well that depends on you bro, you dont need others to decide what path you should take. Remember whatever you might think on doing in your life. Always remember that you are right. But all i can do for you is recommend some suggestions, if you have a goal in life like a dream job then you should probably take college and pursue the course/field that you want but if you have a different goal in mind like investing in bitcoin and being apart with us the new rich gentlemen in the future. This digital currency might solve all your problems plus bitcoin is decentralized.

Hey Sadlife,

as i said before the school system is a waste of time ...

But if you're one of the people who just wanna get something to eat and that's it fine .. go to school waste 20 years of your life, to be able to waste the rest working in a job from 8 AM to 3 PM

School .. will give you exactly that !

But if you're different, if you wanna live a different life ...
Don't waste your life chasing marks Instead, chase the dream you always dream of and this, doesn't necessary require school

You can be a multi millionaire just playing games and upload them on YouTube " PewDiePie " The world has changed my friend  Wink

Yes, school can - after 20 years of studying - gives you a job but it can never give you the life you always dream of

let's look at the statistics

Only 27 % of the people work in a field that's related to their degrees .. And 80 % of the people hate their jobs 32 % of the most 100 richest people, don't have a college degree

And the rest their degrees aren't the reason of their wealthiness .









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Well that depends on you bro, you dont need others to decide what path you should take. Remember whatever you might think on doing in your life. Always remember that you are right. But all i can do for you is recommend some suggestions, if you have a goal in life like a dream job then you should probably take college and pursue the course/field that you want but if you have a different goal in mind like investing in bitcoin and being apart with us the new rich gentlemen in the future. This digital currency might solve all your problems plus bitcoin is decentralized.

Hey Sadlife,

as i said before the school system is a waste of time ...

But if you're one of the people who just wanna get something to eat and that's it fine .. go to school waste 20 years of your life, to be able to waste the rest working in a job from 8 AM to 3 PM

School .. will give you exactly that !

But if you're different, if you wanna live a different life ...
Don't waste your life chasing marks Instead, chase the dream you always dream of and this, doesn't necessary require school

You can be a multi millionaire just playing games and upload them on YouTube " PewDiePie " The world has changed my friend  Wink

Yes, school can - after 20 years of studying - gives you a job but it can never give you the life you always dream of

let's look at the statistics

Only 27 % of the people work in a field that's related to their degrees .. And 80 % of the people hate their jobs 32 % of the most 100 richest people, don't have a college degree

And the rest their degrees aren't the reason of their wealthiness .









as i said before the school system is a waste of time ...
But if you're one of the people who just wanna get something to eat and that's it fine .. go to school waste 20 years of your life

So how did you learn to read write and add up?..
Now what happens if your parents move to another country and cannot speak the lingo
then what happens to the children if going to school is a waste of time.. Roll Eyes

You mean it's not worth paying for a degree ?..

See as well some jobs you do need a degree or you will not be employed ..

Plus some jobs you can earn good money and then invest as well as go to work..
Steady money and making money good smart life Wink..

Oh and it's easy saying don't get a degree if you made good money..
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July 06, 2017, 06:08:24 AM
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Well that depends on you bro, you dont need others to decide what path you should take. Remember whatever you might think on doing in your life. Always remember that you are right. But all i can do for you is recommend some suggestions, if you have a goal in life like a dream job then you should probably take college and pursue the course/field that you want but if you have a different goal in mind like investing in bitcoin and being apart with us the new rich gentlemen in the future. This digital currency might solve all your problems plus bitcoin is decentralized.

Hey Sadlife,

as i said before the school system is a waste of time ...

But if you're one of the people who just wanna get something to eat and that's it fine .. go to school waste 20 years of your life, to be able to waste the rest working in a job from 8 AM to 3 PM

School .. will give you exactly that !

But if you're different, if you wanna live a different life ...
Don't waste your life chasing marks Instead, chase the dream you always dream of and this, doesn't necessary require school

You can be a multi millionaire just playing games and upload them on YouTube " PewDiePie " The world has changed my friend  Wink

Yes, school can - after 20 years of studying - gives you a job but it can never give you the life you always dream of

let's look at the statistics

Only 27 % of the people work in a field that's related to their degrees .. And 80 % of the people hate their jobs 32 % of the most 100 richest people, don't have a college degree

And the rest their degrees aren't the reason of their wealthiness .









as i said before the school system is a waste of time ...
But if you're one of the people who just wanna get something to eat and that's it fine .. go to school waste 20 years of your life

So how did you learn to read write and add up?..
Now what happens if your parents move to another country and cannot speak the lingo
then what happens to the children if going to school is a waste of time.. Roll Eyes

You mean it's not worth paying for a degree ?..

See as well some jobs you do need a degree or you will not be employed ..

Plus some jobs you can earn good money and then invest as well as go to work..
Steady money and making money good smart life Wink..

Oh and it's easy saying don't get a degree if you made good money..

Hey dude,

Everything is about intent ...
 
School doesn't give you education, you'll waste 20 years from your life in school only to learn at the end how to read, write, subtract and add

And all this will be given to you at your first year in school but starting from your second year, you'll start some endless pointless race ..
With strange people to see who will get a higher marks

Basically all what you do in school is staying up late, getting frustrated, angry or even cry just to memorize some books which you know that you'll forget the second you finish the exams

The information you have before your school year starts .. is probably the same as the information you'll have week after finishing the exams

Ask yourself, your last year in school ..

After all the studying, books and the private classes you took ..

How much information you still memorize ?

And How much ( useful ) information from them can you name ?

You should take some time alone and ask yourself ..

If you're going to school just to memorize things you know you'll forget the second you finish the exams ..

Why are you still going to school ?

The whole school system was created thousands of years ago, to let the new generations take the information teachers and scientists have ..

But this is over now  ...

You don't need a teacher to tell you some basic information you're holding between your hands a device ..

That contains all the information mankind has ever know ..

All the things you studied, and all the things you didn't study ..

All the information about any picture, video, news or events that ever happened, are between your hands

We got used to go to school without thinking about it

and if you think your father makes you go to school because he cares about your education .. not because he wanna say "my son is in school"

Then you still don't understand

Let's play a game

Let's say they want you to make a choice between two ..

1- Is to study and understand all the books they gave you .. but in return you'll get a (C) in the exams ..

2- or you don't have to study or even come to school but in return you'll get (A+) in the finals, and be the top of your class ..

What would you choose ?

A 100 % guarantee you'll choose  the second option studying school books aren't necessary, cuz you know you'll forget them after exams anyway ..

And if the unluckily happened, and you appeared to be the type which actually cares about the books

Your parents will force you to choose 2, saying that what matters is the result at the end ...

School doesn't teach you anything, it only makes you memorize stuff a temporarily memorizing until exams pass

The useful outcome from any school year is zero

If we're talking about real education ... then one year of reading science articles or watching science documentary films just one year, will be worth more than 20 years of memorizing school books

The scientific researches say that schools aren't for learning

Schools are just for showing off

The best countries in education actually managed to get rid of the boring schools like we still have and replaced them with schools that care about every child as individual

Schools that try to understand every child's needs, dreams and what he wants to be ... to start shaping that path for him to let him work in a field he loves after growing up ..

So, if you think that you're going to school for education and to learn leave school and learn from the internet

And unlike school when you study things you hate .. you'll have the freedom of reading and time you won't suffer from any mental or psychological stress like you face in school and exams ..

And you'll be able to read the things you actually like

That's if we're talking about real education

All the courses from the best schools and universities in the world, are available online for free
I mean, the whole school courses are available on the internet !

Why would you force your kid to go to school studying tons of books about Engineering

When he actually hates engineering ?!

I mean, even if he got high marks in this subject, it still won't be considered success it's better for him to study just one book at home about something he actually likes

That's if you really care about your kid's education

School is not a system for education ..

But a system of vain memorizing, brainwashing and destroying the dreams of the children
For the sake of some marks that have nothing to do with every kid's own abilities

So if you're the controller of your life and not your parents as expected
Think about this again, and don't care about the society

You don't need to see the society does something for you to follow it

Society is a bunch of sheep, following each other

You don't need to wake up next morning finding that schools are gone for you to act different

There're already millions of people who study online and study the field they like and then earn the degree online from their home

You don't have to go to school if you're really looking for real education  Tongue










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July 06, 2017, 07:31:15 AM
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In hindsight, I wouldn't have gone to college because I had not idea what I really wanted to be/do. Now I am 25 and have a much better idea. Also, stay away from drugs & alcohol... very, very, very bad stuff.
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Hi everyone,

What advice would you give a HS senior in US about to decide on and/or enter college ?

Do you feel like partying for a few years, then take an arts course at college, feel like a career go to Trades School.
Feel like learning theory but not applying it in the workforce then go to University, want to try and make a fortune, use some of that education money and put it into cryptocurrency and see how that goes.

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July 06, 2017, 07:35:51 AM
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Anyone that has the possibility to go to college , should DEFINITELY go to college and not think of certain specific stories like the ones of Bill Gates and Steve Jobs. For me they are just a few exception to the rule. College gives you a chance to fight equally to get a good job in life and have a better life compared to people who haven't got to college. Education is always good.

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July 06, 2017, 08:09:14 AM
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Definitely you should. What's hindering you from taking up college? is it only the loan?

If your family can afford to send you to college, go, do it. But if not, then seek the assistance of your state, I don't know how it goes in USA, but in some countries, there is a free education.

If that's not possible, well, use your skills, build it up and earn from it and send your self to college.

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July 06, 2017, 08:34:18 AM
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Hi everyone,

What advice would you give a HS senior in US about to decide on and/or enter college ?

I say no. Fuck college.

Unless you are maverick in the field of nuclear physics or medicine it is not worth getting into debt. Financially and personally youd be better off as a welder or electrician. You dont need no school for programming.

Gavin Innes published 20 reasons why modern college sucks, you doing free shit for somebody else and enduring useless courses being just a top of it.

https://resurgencemedia.net/2017/05/24/20-reasons-why-modern-schools-suck-by-gavin-mcinnes/

Anyone that has the possibility to go to college , should DEFINITELY go to college and not think of certain specific stories like the ones of Bill Gates and Steve Jobs. For me they are just a few exception to the rule. College gives you a chance to fight equally to get a good job in life and have a better life compared to people who haven't got to college. Education is always good.

An education. Western postmodernist schooling and education are two different things - and the guy above will understand once he sees his paycheck. As fucking arts degree prepares you for career at McDonalds with massive debts.
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