Fifth alt coin thread last four got too big.

[bentcrypto]

Which OS are you using Marvell?
I'm using nvOC, haven't played with the clocks on ETH yet.

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[bentcrypto]

Absolutely not a waste. My 1070 6 card rigs do 170mh on ETH @ 600w.
Currently earning slightly more than equihash selling on nicehash 

Edit: corrected wattage.

so you got yesterday also ETH 0.16159000 for 24h mining?

For two rigs I got the same as equihash but using 200w less power.
1070's are a versatile card and can do great on ETH.

[citronick]

Fresh.

Hopefully it's not the same questions over and over.  Most all questions have been answered in the previous 4 threads.  

Well so many  newbies  came by  in thread 4.  I answered the same questions  many times.  PM's were crazy.

For me this thread is more about waiting and prepping  for the future.
Learn to sit and take deep breath  look for a good move.

If you did not make any money during the bull run  we just had I am sorry.  But making money in hard times is possible.

Keep calm, and mine on - we are still in the green but very much less money now compared to before.

Once we pass the coming storm, confidence will come back and we be ready for next rally -- history do repeat itself.

In the 6GHs ETH farm, its still biz as usual although the diff level is really high but my group wants all the ETH coins, the RX470s and GTX1070s could mine at full speed, towards POS.

In the other GPU farm, Nanos and 390s, its a mix bag of ZEC and XMR but running slower now to reduce power bill and pass the juice money to ETH farm. Meanwhile its full speed at Labrador.

The modest recent NVIDIA farm - 22x1080tis, 24x1070 and 18x1060 - spread over 13 rigs. My group has halted any expansion now -- and contingency plans in progress until we find see what coming after Aug 1.

[citronick]

Mining ETH direct with Nvidia is just a waste of hash power....

1070 to me is the perfect ETH miner, it is as good as the RX470 in the AMD world.

As a GPU farmer, if the 1070 IF priced like 470 (before the GPU price craze), I would fill an entire warehouse with 1070s for ETH mining.

1070s wattage is very good and its very forgiving in OC.

[iamnewhere]

Absolutely not a waste. My 1070 6 card rigs do 170mh on ETH @ 600w.
Currently earning slightly more than equihash selling on nicehash 

Edit: corrected wattage.

so you got yesterday also ETH 0.16159000 for 24h mining?

For two rigs I got the same as equihash but using 200w less power.
1070's are a versatile card and can do great on ETH.

so it took you 2 rigs (i guess with 12 x 1070) to get the same ETH as me with 1 rig? (6 x 1070)

[Marvell1]

Which OS are you using Marvell?
I'm using nvOC, haven't played with the clocks on ETH yet.

@bentcrypto  all my rigs are windows 10, I use MSI afterburner to OC mem to 588 or so ans lower core like -200 and power limit btw 50-70 depending on model

[bentcrypto]

Mining ETH direct with Nvidia is just a waste of hash power....

1070 to me is the perfect ETH miner, it is as good as the RX470 in the AMD world.

As a GPU farmer, if the 1070 IF priced like 470 (before the GPU price craze), I would fill an entire warehouse with 1070s for ETH mining.

1070s wattage is very good and its very forgiving in OC.

Exactly.

so it took you 2 rigs (i guess with 12 x 1070) to get the same ETH as me with 1 rig? (6 x 1070)

Yeah but you have to hold those shitcoins before you convert to btc(risk), I like to be paid in BTC on nicehash, much easier.

@bentcrypto  all my rigs are windows 10, I use MSI afterburner to OC mem to 588 or so ans lower core like -200 and power limit btw 50-70 depending on model

Thanks, will try those settings in nvOC and see what I get.

[vg54dett]

Mining ETH direct with Nvidia is just a waste of hash power....

1070 to me is the perfect ETH miner, it is as good as the RX470 in the AMD world.

As a GPU farmer, if the 1070 IF priced like 470 (before the GPU price craze), I would fill an entire warehouse with 1070s for ETH mining.

1070s wattage is very good and its very forgiving in OC.

Unfortunately, 1070s are generally twice the price of 470s ... including before the price surge.

[LoneRangir]

My guess is that we will get SegWit, and then the fork to get 2x blocks will NOT happen.

https://themerkle.com/segwit2x-miners-accidentally-fork-bitcoin-testnet/

Core devs have said that Segwit2X is not ready for deployment yet. This is what happens when nobody listens.
No need to rush, Segwit in 2018, Lightning in 2020.

I agree. I hope that status quo is still an option. There's strong evidence that the congestion a few weeks ago was mostly spam, helping to create the narrative that we need to act now.

If the block size is doubled, and they're not full because there are not enough transactions, the latency to validate and propagate blocks hurts the network.

Edit: I went and read the article.  That shows that SegWit2x is not ready for prime time.  This sort of thing is bound to happen when the core devs are shut out of the coding and testing process, and the large miners get less experienced developers to implement their will.

[philipma1957]

the price for 1070s and 1080ti's have been raised by ~ 15% in the past days even at major wholesalers - not sure if they just want to make more money or if the manufacturers already raised their prices for wholesalers.

Yeah amazing...all the 1070's that I bought 6 weeks are now 20% higher in price. Good for resale but I want to buy more..lol.

Sell them   at a small markup say 10%   I will escrow them for you.  use the marketplace here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=75.0

[philipma1957]

One issue I have is with risers and their connectivity to the motherboard. The tension on the USB cable makes the riser - motherboard connection wobbly. I remember seeing some type of adapter that made that connection more stable, may be 3D printed, somewhere, but I can't find it now. What is everybody's solution to the issue? Do you just leave them as they are?

I mine riser free three card rigs.

[StraabdenDaals]

One issue I have is with risers and their connectivity to the motherboard. The tension on the USB cable makes the riser - motherboard connection wobbly. I remember seeing some type of adapter that made that connection more stable, may be 3D printed, somewhere, but I can't find it now. What is everybody's solution to the issue? Do you just leave them as they are?

I mine riser free three card rigs.

Can you link the motherboard you use to do this? I'm curious how you make this economical.

[philipma1957]

One issue I have is with risers and their connectivity to the motherboard. The tension on the USB cable makes the riser - motherboard connection wobbly. I remember seeing some type of adapter that made that connection more stable, may be 3D printed, somewhere, but I can't find it now. What is everybody's solution to the issue? Do you just leave them as they are?

I mine riser free three card rigs.

Can you link the motherboard you use to do this? I'm curious how you make this economical.

Gigabyte z270. D3 = https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-GA-Z270-HD3P-LGA1151-CrossFire-Motherboard/dp/B01NAK6CG2/ref=sr_1_38? =  114


Used i5 6400 t cpu = http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Core-i5-6400T-SR2L1-2-2GHz-Desktop-CPU-LGA1151-Socket-Processor-/252947730926?  = 115  a low end pentium g4400t is good

USB 3.0 lexar or sandisk  = https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Ultra-Transfer-Speeds-SDCZ48-064G-UAM46/dp/B00KYK2ABI/ref=sr_1_2?

Rosewill quark 850 watt psu =  http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rosewill-Quark-Series-850W-Full-Modular-Gaming-Power-Supply-with-LED-Indicator-/291426924760?

2 x 1080 ti
1x 1070 itx


I will give links  and as we know gpus are sky high.

the savings are in the psu it does up to 4 cards  139 for 850 watts and has 5 year warranty

also save on  risers.

and save on   hdds/windows   use usb sticks and nvoc or smos

see build photos

as a three card no riser rig



as a five card rig  with risers

[QuintLeo]

I think 1070 is good for mining both the ETH and ZEC. So it is more demanded.

Mining ETH direct with Nvidia is just a waste of hash power, you can mine other coins much better

 True without question for the 1080ti and 1080.

 NOT true for the 1070 all of the time, though usually valid if you're mining a small-cap coin that's noticeably more profitable than ZEC.

 Not sure on the 1060, but I suspect it's in the same boat with the 1070.

[QuintLeo]

Can you link the motherboard you use to do this? I'm curious how you make this economical.

 Almost any motherboard with 3 x 16-bit PCI-E slots will work, as they pretty much all have the same spacing.

 I used to use the ASRock FM2A88X Extreme6+ as my go-to MB for 3-card no riser rigs (using either a Gigabyte ITX-type card in the "outside" slot, or a Zotac shortie in one rig), but have switched to the ASRock 970 Extreme4 as my current go-to board as I'm moving away from "mixed" rigs.

 For the same "new" price range most folks pay for an Intel dual-core low end Pentium G-series, I can get a quad-core AMD FM2-based APU, or a 6-core AMD AM3+ based CPU which gives me enough CPU horsepower to mine BURST on the same machine I'm GPU mining on - but I'm usually SAVING significantly on the motherboard.
 On used stuff, you can usually find AMD X-series dual-core CPUs or the Sempron 145 REAL cheap for an AM3/AM3+ motherboard - they're plenty to run a dedicated mining rig on.

 DDR4 pricing is getting down to similar range as DDR3, and everything else would be the same identical parts.

 Phil is going way overkill for a pure-mining rig on that I5 - but I used to go overkill on my APU-based rigs so the GPU side of them could work the Distributed.Net project via BOINC's MooWrapper project.

 I prefer the Seasonic X-850 or EVGA G2 850 for a power supply over Phil's Rosewill unit - and I generally can wait to get them on sale from NewEgg at $129 or less (I've got a couple bigger Seasonic/EVGA units as "floaters" I can use to run a rig on temporarily while it waits on it's REAL PS to arrive, and sometimes I'll buy a spare or two ahead of time on the better sales).

 X-850 handles 3 x 1080 OK on a rig where the cards are at 100% TDP (that's the one with the Zotac shorty, it also has a pair of Gigabyte winforce cards with a 200 watt TDP).
 A dual 1080ti single short 1080 rig would probably want a little more PS though for reliability, probably a X-1050 or G2 1000.

[Storx]

I go a different route, i use refurbished dell/hp computers so far that i pick up between $100-150 and use risers to run 4 x 1080ti's off dual server PSU's that cost me $120 for a pair with breakout boards

Has anyone had issues with Coinbase in the past? im really frustrated with them, im locked out of my account because i broke my cell phone that had the google authenticator on, i did the steps to recover my account and got a email saying the process takes between 24-48hrs... that was last Monday...

[flminer]

I go a different route, i use refurbished dell/hp computers so far that i pick up between $100-150 and use risers to run 4 x 1080ti's off dual server PSU's that cost me $120 for a pair with breakout boards

Has anyone had issues with Coinbase in the past? im really frustrated with them, im locked out of my account because i broke my cell phone that had the google authenticator on, i did the steps to recover my account and got a email saying the process takes between 24-48hrs... that was last Monday...

Biggest problem I had with them was just getting a photo of my ID they would accept. Took too many tries even after getting a new ID. Easily took over 20 times and multiple emails with support to finally get it straight. Very frustrating. But that was the only problem I have had.

[rs1x]

I go a different route, i use refurbished dell/hp computers so far that i pick up between $100-150 and use risers to run 4 x 1080ti's off dual server PSU's that cost me $120 for a pair with breakout boards

Has anyone had issues with Coinbase in the past? im really frustrated with them, im locked out of my account because i broke my cell phone that had the google authenticator on, i did the steps to recover my account and got a email saying the process takes between 24-48hrs... that was last Monday...

I do the same on two of my three rigs. Buy a cheap old HP desktop with 4 /slots.

1) some fancy motherboard that has 6 slots for cards - running 6 rx 480
2) HP z400 off newegg with windows 10 for $180 . Running 4 rx 570
3) HP z400 off eBay for $80 , windows license from softwareswap for $20. Running 4x rx 470s

[LoneRangir]

I go a different route, i use refurbished dell/hp computers so far that i pick up between $100-150 and use risers to run 4 x 1080ti's off dual server PSU's that cost me $120 for a pair with breakout boards

Has anyone had issues with Coinbase in the past? im really frustrated with them, im locked out of my account because i broke my cell phone that had the google authenticator on, i did the steps to recover my account and got a email saying the process takes between 24-48hrs... that was last Monday...

Biggest problem I had with them was just getting a photo of my ID they would accept. Took too many tries even after getting a new ID. Easily took over 20 times and multiple emails with support to finally get it straight. Very frustrating. But that was the only problem I have had.

It took me 20 attempts to guess how they had my mailing address on file. I finally had to spell out the house number. Really? What a great process you have there....

[kopija]

I do the same on two of my three rigs. Buy a cheap old HP desktop with 4 /slots.

1) some fancy motherboard that has 6 slots for cards - running 6 rx 480
2) HP z400 off newegg with windows 10 for $180 . Running 4 rx 570
3) HP z400 off eBay for $80 , windows license from softwareswap for $20. Running 4x rx 470s

How bout this blast from the Litecoin mining days ?

A true steampunk masterpiece of engineering:
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/P35_Platinum.html#hero-specification
bought for 20$, running 4 1060s

Old time favorite from ten years ago:
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-EP45-UD3R-rev-11#ov
bought for 20$, running 4 1060s

They even did not need pin shorting
Working like a charm.

Third rig is running on my former Sandy Bridge desktop MB
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/Z77AGD65.html#hero-specification
I just cant seem to get 7th card working, I get stuck in BIOS initializing CPU
Any help welcome!

Also, for really cheap mining solution, a truly plug-and-mine MB for up to 5 gpus:

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-970A-UD3P-rev-2x#ov 
running on brand new AthlonII dual core for 5$ from Aliexpress.