Fifth alt coin thread last four got too big.

[kopija]

Should I feel bad that I just use a screwdriver between the two leads to turn my rigs on? Lol you guys with your fancy switches!

Miner dont need no switches and screwdriver only once. Once the rig powers on, go to BIOS and tell the damn thing to "power on after AC loss" or something of such wording, so the rig powers on when you power on the PSU.

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[Storx]

Whats up guys, ive been super busy with other stuff, not had a lot of time to deal with mining and such... been so nice to not have to touch my rigs for an entire week and just check on them every morning that they are all still up via Awesome Miner, such an amazing software to use once you figure out how to use it fully...

Anyways, Phillip... that CPU you bought doesnt need a double fan really AIO, my friend has a AMD 1800X w/ single fan 120mm AIO and his never exceed 52c...

Had a lot of new changes to my crypto stuff recently.. still testing the bot at super low btc trade limits, but been testing a GunBot for 6 days now, running 28 pairs and im up 19% on the BTC on that bot only Bittrex account. First 2 days it took a few bad trades due to settings being super aggressive out of the box, granted it was still positive overall, just it made like 200ish trades in 48hrs and was only up like 0.3% overall on my btc on the account.. so i adjusted them to more tighter settings after mapping each pair on coinigy and kinda getting an average drop below lower BB to target for... that had good odds of pulling a profit... now it only averages 1-5 trades a day on 28 pairs, but so far it has not made a bad trade with the lower gain target per trade, currently setup to only net 0.25% profit per trade after fees... but im limiting it to 55,000sat BTC per coin to trade right now...

I got in touch with Guntar 2 weeks ago and tried his bots - but been so busy with other stuff - cant wait to study the bots again... will PM you later for tips. Day trading is tough and intense, the bot will help a lot ... there is no such thing as a bad profit - better smaller profits and accumulate rather than scoring big ....need to have very high luck factor

Ya im still trying to understand how to setup the bot myself, many of the post and documentation on the bot are conflicting, or the bot actually doesnt perform an action like it suppose to..

Example, default it comes setup for BB buying and BB selling, since its the easiest to comprehend i guess.. but after watching a few trades, it was not truly targeting correctly, i felt like the upper BB was glitching, because randomly it was displaying an upper BB of what the EMA was stating... so i moved away from that and now using Step gain method, which i mapped on coinigy to see if i bought x% below EMA, what was my likelyness to be able to sell out on that trade... mapped it out on multiple days the price reach the x% i was aiming for and adjusted each pair currently based off these settings.. The hardest part is the Pump and Dumps, i was not aware of how many pump and dumps occur daily on coins, i have my Margins for panic selling @ 3% currently, default is 60%... granted ive had a few times i bought into a coin and immediately sold it for a loss of 3%, but on CANN yesterday the bot bought in, and sold for 3% loss immediately, but the price of that position plummet like 64%, so 3% vs 64%.....so far ive had way more trades positive vs negative... last 12 hours, i had 44 positive trades and 6 negative trades.. ranging from 0.5% profit to 5% profit... mostly around 1% since im still trying to make heads or tales on the step gain settings.. confusing as heck and the dev has yet to respond to my questions, keeps telling me he has promoters for that.... but they all post conflicting info...

Right now, im still testing with LOW amounts of BTC, just to risk very little.. but after a few days of testing ill decide to pump more into it...even at the super low BTC limits, i made $13 in the last 12 hours off the bot in btc profits going off the BTC decimals, now USD value...

When you go to set yours up, set Mac Balance to 0.0000 and let the bot run on all the pairs you want to trade for an entire day, it will error every price update saying not enough btc to trade or below exchange min... it makes terrible trades tell the bot's log for that coin is filled in with like 300+ api price histories... i found... then turn it up to let it trade...

Played with it for awhile but maybe I dont understand his strategies and what parameters to use in his bot console -- anyways, Guntar said he can help step by step etc.... anyways, will join his Telegram group soon and learn more. I only trade in Bitrex currently.

From what i understand he cancelled his telegram group and when i asked for help, he pointed me to east coast crypto's discord chat on gunbot... just fyi

Just to show a little progress on the bot, im still trying to make heads or tales on the settings myself, they really are a mystery of trial and error it seems... Im still testing it with secondary bittrex account with low btc amount to control the loss factor while i play with the settings and learn them... want to get a solid week or so out of it before i add more into it... plus i make look into a VPS, electrical storm turned my PC off, turns out my UPS battery is dead again already less than a year after buying it.. so it has been gathering data all Sunday to get back to the point of being able to trade again..

[cvsea]

how much power do you use?

64 - 70W with spikes up to 85 in gpu-z. Undervolted -126mv.
I set clocks for best performance as I pay close to nothing for power (but I'm limited to powering only 6 cards for now).

[dragonmike]

I've also switched my ETH+DCR rigs to XMR.

With bios mod my RX 570's hash at 800h/s, 1220/1925 @ 975mV. That translates to 900W at the wall per 7-GPU rig. Might be more room to tweak, but that's already a lot better power consumption than I used to have previously.

[tpd09]

hey philipma1957 - may I check with you, if you had a choice between building a rig and buying with the same funds a portfolio of top 10 currencies. What would you choose?
thanks

[philipma1957]

hey philipma1957 - may I check with you, if you had a choice between building a rig and buying with the same funds a portfolio of top 10 currencies. What would you choose?
thanks

If I could have  10000 usd  of gear or coins

in my case  I would want  some bitmain L3+ ltc miners and some avalon 741 btc  miners.

not that I don't like  gpu's  but  I am gpu heavy  and need some asics like the avalon 741  and the bitmain L3+

maybe 7 avalon 741's  and 2 L3+

My ratios are

gpu's  15x 1080 ti's ------------------  I include psu's mobos etc  10k
s-9's    3x -----------------------------------------------------------   3k
r-4       1x -----------------------------------------------------------   1k
721      3x -----------------------------------------------------------   2k
741      1x -----------------------------------------------------------   1k
cash     6k ----------------------------------------------------------    6k
coins     btc, bcc ----------------------------------------------------    7k
debt        ------------------------------------------------------------    0

                so about 30k  no debt  all profit

 I feel I am heavy in gpus and lite on asic gear

[dragonmike]

I've also switched my ETH+DCR rigs to XMR.

With bios mod my RX 570's hash at 800h/s, 1220/1925 @ 975mV. That translates to 900W at the wall per 7-GPU rig. Might be more room to tweak, but that's already a lot better power consumption than I used to have previously.

Good hashrate.

Was the bios mod for xmr or eth and who did it if I may ask? I have 1400W at the wall per 10 GPU rig.

It was originally for ETH. Got it from Mattthev.
Had to lower mem clocks by 25MHz to be stable in XMR compared to ETH. Core clock I raised from 1100 to 1220 and vcore from 850 to 975. Might be able to lower it a bit. I'll test when I have time.

[cvsea]

Guys  trading is a mofo but can be fun.

Or just sit back and enjoy  the profits from zec mining.

5 1080 ti's

https://new.nicehash.com/miner/16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr

this is easy money.  no trades no hassles.

Phil.... run ccminer/cryptonight instead -- I think NH pays higher rates now vs equihash.

use the skunk build v2.2

crytonight even lower power and less heat are bonus

Did you move your amd farm to monero?
If so, which miner are you using if I may ask. I'm getting over 800h/s per card with sgminer-gm.

http://imgur.com/a/i2JmU

Things are even better pool side.

What cards and core/ram settings if you don't mind sharing?
My modded 470/480s and 570s do only 650-750 with Claymore and 1500 modded bios.
Modded 460 around 400, unmodded 460 around 350.

470 & 480 with Samsung memory. Custom 1750 straps for eth. Stock core, memclock between 2100 - 2200. Undervolted.
I had just switched from eth to see what speeds I'm getting and then just let it be. 

Try with sgminer-gm.

I get between 720-710h/s for a rx580 4gb with core 1150 and memclock 1975. I had to lower the memclock because the gpu crashed all the time.

Is the rig stable with memclock 2100-2200?

You do get very good hashrate about 800h/s for rx470 480.   Wish I would get 800h/s ..

I don't think is is necessary to clock the memory that high for cryptonight anyway. How high you can go depends a lot on chip quality.
I'm using the unofficial beta dag fix drivers right now and eth clocks so can't really adjust many things. I will revert to 16.11.5 and fine tune things shortly.

ETH wise you do need high mclocks and/or tuned custom straps to get the best hash. One of my 470's is stable at 31.9mh/s 1206/2200 -126mv.
I modified the vbios by myself using this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1758267.0 It's really a gold mine if you are able to follow the info from there (do it yourself instead of paying for it).
Perhaps this is also why I'm getting better speed with xmr.

[citronick]

hey philipma1957 - may I check with you, if you had a choice between building a rig and buying with the same funds a portfolio of top 10 currencies. What would you choose?
thanks

If I could have  10000 usd  of gear or coins

in my case  I would want  some bitmain L3+ ltc miners and some avalon 741 btc  miners.

not that I don't like  gpu's  but  I am gpu heavy  and need some asics like the avalon 741  and the bitmain L3+

maybe 7 avalon 741's  and 2 L3+

My ratios are

gpu's  15x 1080 ti's ------------------  I include psu's mobos etc  10k
s-9's    3x -----------------------------------------------------------   3k
r-4       1x -----------------------------------------------------------   1k
721      3x -----------------------------------------------------------   2k
741      1x -----------------------------------------------------------   1k
cash     6k ----------------------------------------------------------    6k
coins     btc, bcc ----------------------------------------------------    7k
debt        ------------------------------------------------------------    0

                so about 30k  no debt  all profit

 I feel I am heavy in gpus and lite on asic gear

Yes, balanced mining portfolio is key to long term profitability - my group is about 60% Asics ATM in all three main algos - SHA256, X11 and Scrypt.

Get them L3+ , when you can, buy direct from Bitmain -- the resellers are selling them for up to 3x premium.

Yes, my group has L3+ running for about 2 weeks now.... its looking good - I expect ROI very fast (about 40-45 days).

The L3+ joined the existing A4s Scrypt farm, and they make more money currently being rented out (Nicehash).

LTC has made a good pop above $60, I am tracking this closely but my group's policy is ROI first before coin accumulation and long position, so it will stay selling hash for now.

[faus03]

Those talking about gunbot, has anyone heard or used/use zenbot? Appears to be free and open source. They released version 4 recently and seems like the dev has continued working on it for a while now. I like that it has the simulation option to test your settings in a non-live environment. Anyone use it and care to share their experience and best settings?

[philipma1957]

to all those trading  it is not mining so watch for   traps

A big trap  is the exchange fails.

So  try to keep  funds  in exchanges  at a proper ratio  to your full holdings.

I feel having 90% worth of coins  in  real wallets you control  and 10% worth of coins in an exchange  works for me

No one  should have

 50% in wallet
 50% in exchange  ratio.    please be careful with your coins

[TheYankeesWin!]

Phil   thanks for link  on the rosewill quark

$114.99  for a 850 watt  platinum  psu is good.

and ebay has 8%  ebucks so that psu is under $106 usd !

Evga and server is pretty good but. You failed to let me pick. Rose will quark 850 watt platinum truly a good psu for my riser free three card nvidia 1080 ti builds,

I can get a rosewill quark 850 watt on sale for as low as 120 usd

my bad on sale from newegg on ebay at 114.99


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rosewill-Quark-Series-850W-Full-Modular-Gaming-Power-Supply-with-LED-Indicator-/291426924760?

[philipma1957]

@TheYankees


that psu  for that price is amazing

2 of them come to under  215 after ebucks

you can run  an s-9 or an avalon 741 using 2 of them.

but they shine on my 3 card riser free 1080 ti builds


Oh I sold some coin today at 4560 usd it was hard to resist selling some.

[nsummy]

Hey philipma1957, I always read your topics and I really like and follow a lot of things you said until now, and I want to thank you because I'm in profit
I have a small rig ( 2GTX 1070 and a 1060), I'm just looking to buy to 4th card to complete my rig

You are in the cryptos for a long time and my doubt is: Every end of the year (Nov Dec), is it true that people capitalize the money, in fiat currency and the market goes down for a month o two, because the holidays etc?
I'm trying to make a plan here
My rig is small but I'm investing some money directly to the coins too

Thank you

Very General rules below

USA people like myself  tend to sell off in Jan not Nov or Dec.

If I sell 10,000 in coin  for a 8,000 profit in Nov. or Dec.  2017

When I file for taxes in April 2018  I will owe tax on the 8000 and have to pay it no later then April 2018

If sell 10,000 in coin  for 8,000 in Jan 2018  When I file for taxes in April 2018  I am filing for the year 2017

Since I sold the coin in Jan 2018  I do have to pay by the time  I file in  April 2019


So USA guys sell off in January  Not Nov or Dec.

Correct me if I am wrong but for tax purposes, it doesn't really matter when you trade, its when you withdraw the money.  For example if I mine a bunch of altcoins and convert them to bitcoin and move them into my gemini wallet, Gemini has no insight or clue how I got it.  All it knows is that it received a bunch of bitcoin. 

[philipma1957]

Hey philipma1957, I always read your topics and I really like and follow a lot of things you said until now, and I want to thank you because I'm in profit
I have a small rig ( 2GTX 1070 and a 1060), I'm just looking to buy to 4th card to complete my rig

You are in the cryptos for a long time and my doubt is: Every end of the year (Nov Dec), is it true that people capitalize the money, in fiat currency and the market goes down for a month o two, because the holidays etc?
I'm trying to make a plan here
My rig is small but I'm investing some money directly to the coins too

Thank you

Very General rules below

USA people like myself  tend to sell off in Jan not Nov or Dec.

If I sell 10,000 in coin  for a 8,000 profit in Nov. or Dec.  2017

When I file for taxes in April 2018  I will owe tax on the 8000 and have to pay it no later then April 2018

If sell 10,000 in coin  for 8,000 in Jan 2018  When I file for taxes in April 2018  I am filing for the year 2017

Since I sold the coin in Jan 2018  I do have to pay by the time  I file in  April 2019


So USA guys sell off in January  Not Nov or Dec.

Correct me if I am wrong but for tax purposes, it doesn't really matter when you trade, its when you withdraw the money.  For example if I mine a bunch of altcoins and convert them to bitcoin and move them into my gemini wallet, Gemini has no insight or clue how I got it.  All it knows is that it received a bunch of bitcoin. 

The question you ask is so hard to answer I won't .

But if you are USA based and the exchange is USA based in theory every trade made in the exchange could be reported to fed gov to determine your profits trading.

And as of now you need to be aware that the trades are not invisible to authorities .

But enforcement is very spotty .
I don't trade much as the rules for USA players  are not defined clearly enough for me to make a plan to follow.

[Tidsdilatation]

Quick question boys. Does a 1x raiser work on a 16x? i mean all my 1x slots are used on my MB, so my question is: Does a 1x raiser fit and work on a 16x slot?

[konqueror]

Quick question boys. Does a 1x raiser work on a 16x? i mean all my 1x slots are used on my MB, so my question is: Does a 1x raiser fit and work on a 16x slot?

Yes, it works.

[Last of the V8s]

Breaking News:

According to BitcoinMeister the next friendly BTC fork is on the way called Bitcoin Gold.
Video info here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAukxlpwyHg

GPU mined bitcoin fork with POW change to GPU originating from China.
Competitor to BCH and maybe Etherium later.

Sold my BCH for a nice 17.2% dividend that was an easy call. This one might be a harder call. Could pull some interest away from ethereum once ethereum goes proof of stake.

Team behind the bitcoin gold project will implement replay protection and are pro core according to the video which is interesting.

[philipma1957]

very interesting b - gold

for gpu's  may make our gpu's be more valuable.

[citronick]

very interesting b - gold

for gpu's  may make our gpu's be more valuable.

Interesting,.,,,, need to prepare a few more dozen 1080ti or this BTG

if yet another fork comes out..... Bitcoin Silver minable by Scrypt miners LOL... like LTC