Fifth alt coin thread last four got too big.

[parat8t9]

So are there any coins still worth mining with GPUs outside of ETC or ETH?

I've looked at some sites that state profitability, but I'd rather get in on new coins that are ASIC resistant.

Thanks!

[philipma1957]

citronick, where to buy L3+ in Europe? Any advise for fellow europeans about litecoin miners? Also, does it come with all it needs like cords, psu or something like that? Or I have to order separately?
Right now, as posted previous pages ago, I was only into GPU mining, but sincer you are talking about quick ROI on litecoin mining, is a good idea to invest in that for the moment and maybe later we'll see what nvidia has planned for us
Thanks

You can get L3+ direct from Bitmain shop - https://shop.bitmain.com/antminer_l3_litecoin_asic_scrypt_miner.htm

Bitmain is releasing a new batch of L3+'s (November shipping) on Aug 31 @ 11:00 (AM, Beijing time - UTC+8).
That means today for US people, Aug 30, at 23:00 (11PM) Eastern Daylight Time for the USA.

The last sale lasted less than an hour - so be ready and create your userid etc before buying online.

Or you can get from resellers like Eastshore company in China.

They are also sellers in ebay but to be honest do not use them if you dont know them personally.

They can either cheat you or sell it to you for 3 times or even 4 times Bitmain retail price.

The L3+ are quite a performer and enjoying good profitability currently so the perceived value of this miner is more than an ounce of gold literally. It will be difficult to find any sellers in open market.

There the price is 1370usd.
And for Europe is 2500euro. That much difference between US and Europe? Wtf?
Plus the PSU it goes to about 2750euro which is almost double the price US people get.
Maybe we have someone here from Europe which knows some better prices...

you realize  those prices have zero meaning.  it is not for sale by bitmain at this moment.

[QuintLeo]

So are there any coins still worth mining with GPUs outside of ETC or ETH?

 ZEC among many others - ETC is small potatoes in comparison.

 On the other hand, a well-tuned rig of RX 470/480/570/580 with bios-modded cards can still pull in about $2/day per card right now on ETH, RX card pricing has been dropping quite a bit over the last month, and availabiity is getting somewhat better.

[QuintLeo]

Looks like my rx cards that mem and clock tweaks don't like xmr. Anyone know if that sounds about right ?

1200/1900 seems to be the sweet spot. at least on my 6x 470 rigs, I can get close to 700/gpu while pulling 700-750 watts. You can also get a bit more hash by switching from -a2 to -a4 and no notable watt diff, at least for 470s.

The crappy thing about 1080 TIs is that they are not much better on XMR than a 470 is but they cost 3-4x as much. Yeah, I know they are beasts at ZEC and a couple other alts, but i'm not sure how much I want to invest in GPUs that can really only mine 1 algo effectively.

 They can mine a FEW algos effectively, but they are less flexable than the 1070 or the RX series cards and outside of ZEC the coins on the altos the 1080ti are GOOD at tend to be small and can't asorb a lot of hashrate without profitablity crashing.

[citronick]

citronick, where to buy L3+ in Europe? Any advise for fellow europeans about litecoin miners? Also, does it come with all it needs like cords, psu or something like that? Or I have to order separately?
Right now, as posted previous pages ago, I was only into GPU mining, but sincer you are talking about quick ROI on litecoin mining, is a good idea to invest in that for the moment and maybe later we'll see what nvidia has planned for us
Thanks

You can get L3+ direct from Bitmain shop - https://shop.bitmain.com/antminer_l3_litecoin_asic_scrypt_miner.htm

Bitmain is releasing a new batch of L3+'s (November shipping) on Aug 31 @ 11:00 (AM, Beijing time - UTC+8).
That means today for US people, Aug 30, at 23:00 (11PM) Eastern Daylight Time for the USA.

The last sale lasted less than an hour - so be ready and create your userid etc before buying online.

Or you can get from resellers like Eastshore company in China.

They are also sellers in ebay but to be honest do not use them if you dont know them personally.

They can either cheat you or sell it to you for 3 times or even 4 times Bitmain retail price.

The L3+ are quite a performer and enjoying good profitability currently so the perceived value of this miner is more than an ounce of gold literally. It will be difficult to find any sellers in open market.

There the price is 1370usd.
And for Europe is 2500euro. That much difference between US and Europe? Wtf?
Plus the PSU it goes to about 2750euro which is almost double the price US people get.
Maybe we have someone here from Europe which knows some better prices...

I think price stated in Bitmain is for everyone in the world - I dont think its different price for different region.

The landing cost will be different because of country shipping, customs tax etc.

You can email sharif@bitmain.com, he is the coordinator for Bitmain sales for Russia and EU.

[citronick]

Phil, have you seen this board?

Might be worth ordering one for testing. Riser-less 6GPU rigs would save you lots of components from your 3GPU rigs.

Manufacturer page
http://www.onda.cn/MotherBoard_Designs.aspx?id=369

Translated by Google
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.onda.cn%2FMotherBoard_Designs.aspx%3Fid%3D369&edit-text=&act=url

Specs:
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.onda.cn%2FMotherBoard_Specifications.aspx%3Fid%3D369&edit-text=&act=url


List price is CNY 1100, but the manufacturer's web shop is out of stock.

However, I found it on this website
https://s.taobao.com/search?q=D1800-BTC

Cheapest seem to be around CNY 590, which is the equivalent of $90.

Got a few boards to test.

I want to run Linux on this - anybody knows what mobo chipset is this?

Celeron powered with DDR3 memory should point to chipset before Z170 ?

[GabryRox]

citronick, where to buy L3+ in Europe? Any advise for fellow europeans about litecoin miners? Also, does it come with all it needs like cords, psu or something like that? Or I have to order separately?
Right now, as posted previous pages ago, I was only into GPU mining, but sincer you are talking about quick ROI on litecoin mining, is a good idea to invest in that for the moment and maybe later we'll see what nvidia has planned for us
Thanks

You can get L3+ direct from Bitmain shop - https://shop.bitmain.com/antminer_l3_litecoin_asic_scrypt_miner.htm

Bitmain is releasing a new batch of L3+'s (November shipping) on Aug 31 @ 11:00 (AM, Beijing time - UTC+8).
That means today for US people, Aug 30, at 23:00 (11PM) Eastern Daylight Time for the USA.

The last sale lasted less than an hour - so be ready and create your userid etc before buying online.

Or you can get from resellers like Eastshore company in China.

They are also sellers in ebay but to be honest do not use them if you dont know them personally.

They can either cheat you or sell it to you for 3 times or even 4 times Bitmain retail price.

The L3+ are quite a performer and enjoying good profitability currently so the perceived value of this miner is more than an ounce of gold literally. It will be difficult to find any sellers in open market.

thanks for the additional info citronik, really appreciate it... especially on the new batch of L3+'s coming available tonight!  I just registered on the bitmain site so I can log on later and try to get at least 1 of them.  btw, do you know what the price is going to be?  The site doesn't say and their FB says prices only available at time of release of batch sales. Nov batch D3s were 1400 USD, so would assume lower price than that but if you have any insight, would like to prepare.

Also thanks for mentioning Eastshore. I noticed that they have Nov batch D3's for 2100 USD. Granted, thats 700 more than original price from bitmain, but 2-3x less than I have seen on ebay.  Have you or anyone else ever ordered from Eastshore?  Would be curious as to what people's experiences with them have been.

[philipma1957]

Phil, have you seen this board?

Might be worth ordering one for testing. Riser-less 6GPU rigs would save you lots of components from your 3GPU rigs.

Manufacturer page
http://www.onda.cn/MotherBoard_Designs.aspx?id=369

Translated by Google
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.onda.cn%2FMotherBoard_Designs.aspx%3Fid%3D369&edit-text=&act=url

Specs:
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.onda.cn%2FMotherBoard_Specifications.aspx%3Fid%3D369&edit-text=&act=url


List price is CNY 1100, but the manufacturer's web shop is out of stock.

However, I found it on this website
https://s.taobao.com/search?q=D1800-BTC

Cheapest seem to be around CNY 590, which is the equivalent of $90.

Got a few boards to test.

I want to run Linux on this - anybody knows what mobo chipset is this?

Celeron powered with DDR3 memory should point to chipset before Z170 ?

it is a g1820 cpu    this would be a good  board  for a 3 card 1080 ti

uses a 8gb sodimm 1600 ram stick    about 90 + 40 = 130 

[TheRider]

Phil, have you seen this board?

Might be worth ordering one for testing. Riser-less 6GPU rigs would save you lots of components from your 3GPU rigs.

Manufacturer page
http://www.onda.cn/MotherBoard_Designs.aspx?id=369

Translated by Google
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.onda.cn%2FMotherBoard_Designs.aspx%3Fid%3D369&edit-text=&act=url

Specs:
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.onda.cn%2FMotherBoard_Specifications.aspx%3Fid%3D369&edit-text=&act=url


List price is CNY 1100, but the manufacturer's web shop is out of stock.

However, I found it on this website
https://s.taobao.com/search?q=D1800-BTC

Cheapest seem to be around CNY 590, which is the equivalent of $90.

Got a few boards to test.

I want to run Linux on this - anybody knows what mobo chipset is this?

Celeron powered with DDR3 memory should point to chipset before Z170 ?

it is a g1820 cpu    this would be a good  board  for a 3 card 1080 ti

uses a 8gb sodimm 1600 ram stick    about 90 + 40 = 130 

Only 3 cards? Do you think spacing looks too tight for 6 cards?

[martyroz]

I just wanted to say thanks to Phil for leaning me towards the 1080ti / equihash pathway back in late June.

For my first rig, I bought 3 * 1080ti and have basically mined ZEN for two months. Very close to having them all paid off.

[martyroz]

Bitmain is releasing a new batch of L3+'s (November shipping) on Aug 31 @ 11:00 (AM, Beijing time - UTC+8).
That means today for US people, Aug 30, at 23:00 (11PM) Eastern Daylight Time for the USA.

That's in 2hr 45mins right?
I wonder if they ship to Australia and at what price.

[citronick]

citronick, where to buy L3+ in Europe? Any advise for fellow europeans about litecoin miners? Also, does it come with all it needs like cords, psu or something like that? Or I have to order separately?
Right now, as posted previous pages ago, I was only into GPU mining, but sincer you are talking about quick ROI on litecoin mining, is a good idea to invest in that for the moment and maybe later we'll see what nvidia has planned for us
Thanks

You can get L3+ direct from Bitmain shop - https://shop.bitmain.com/antminer_l3_litecoin_asic_scrypt_miner.htm

Bitmain is releasing a new batch of L3+'s (November shipping) on Aug 31 @ 11:00 (AM, Beijing time - UTC+8).
That means today for US people, Aug 30, at 23:00 (11PM) Eastern Daylight Time for the USA.

The last sale lasted less than an hour - so be ready and create your userid etc before buying online.

Or you can get from resellers like Eastshore company in China.

They are also sellers in ebay but to be honest do not use them if you dont know them personally.

They can either cheat you or sell it to you for 3 times or even 4 times Bitmain retail price.

The L3+ are quite a performer and enjoying good profitability currently so the perceived value of this miner is more than an ounce of gold literally. It will be difficult to find any sellers in open market.

thanks for the additional info citronik, really appreciate it... especially on the new batch of L3+'s coming available tonight!  I just registered on the bitmain site so I can log on later and try to get at least 1 of them.  btw, do you know what the price is going to be?  The site doesn't say and their FB says prices only available at time of release of batch sales. Nov batch D3s were 1400 USD, so would assume lower price than that but if you have any insight, would like to prepare.

Also thanks for mentioning Eastshore. I noticed that they have Nov batch D3's for 2100 USD. Granted, thats 700 more than original price from bitmain, but 2-3x less than I have seen on ebay.  Have you or anyone else ever ordered from Eastshore?  Would be curious as to what people's experiences with them have been.

Eastshore is legit.

I bought my first Gridseeds from them 2 years ago 

[64dimensions]

Any suggestions for Monero pools?

TIA

[GabryRox]

Any suggestions for Monero pools?

TIA

I've been with Dwarfpool for close to a year off and on and never had any issues with them. Quick, easy auto-payout and decent tracking metrics.

[64dimensions]

citronick, where to buy L3+ in Europe? Any advise for fellow europeans about litecoin miners? Also, does it come with all it needs like cords, psu or something like that? Or I have to order separately?
Right now, as posted previous pages ago, I was only into GPU mining, but sincer you are talking about quick ROI on litecoin mining, is a good idea to invest in that for the moment and maybe later we'll see what nvidia has planned for us
Thanks

You can get L3+ direct from Bitmain shop - https://shop.bitmain.com/antminer_l3_litecoin_asic_scrypt_miner.htm

Bitmain is releasing a new batch of L3+'s (November shipping) on Aug 31 @ 11:00 (AM, Beijing time - UTC+8).
That means today for US people, Aug 30, at 23:00 (11PM) Eastern Daylight Time for the USA.

The last sale lasted less than an hour - so be ready and create your userid etc before buying online.

Or you can get from resellers like Eastshore company in China.

They are also sellers in ebay but to be honest do not use them if you dont know them personally.

They can either cheat you or sell it to you for 3 times or even 4 times Bitmain retail price.

The L3+ are quite a performer and enjoying good profitability currently so the perceived value of this miner is more than an ounce of gold literally. It will be difficult to find any sellers in open market.

I have one (late May batch?)

I'm one the fence about getting a 2nd.

Here is an interesting forecast: https://steemit.com/litecoin/@xbm/litecoin-difficulty-forecast            It's already low compared to where LTC is now.

 Buying more 1080 ti's is the opposing argument. So if you use a 1080 ti justification, an L3+ costs around 2 1080 ti's . So lets say $7/day. This doesn't include $2/day for power. I don't have a good feel for what the adoption rate for LTC will be. The (major) plus side of the 1080 is it's resale value. Especially since deliveries look slow for the follow on GPU's.

So it doesn't look like an L3+ makes sense.

[GabryRox]

citronick, where to buy L3+ in Europe? Any advise for fellow europeans about litecoin miners? Also, does it come with all it needs like cords, psu or something like that? Or I have to order separately?
Right now, as posted previous pages ago, I was only into GPU mining, but sincer you are talking about quick ROI on litecoin mining, is a good idea to invest in that for the moment and maybe later we'll see what nvidia has planned for us
Thanks

You can get L3+ direct from Bitmain shop - https://shop.bitmain.com/antminer_l3_litecoin_asic_scrypt_miner.htm

Bitmain is releasing a new batch of L3+'s (November shipping) on Aug 31 @ 11:00 (AM, Beijing time - UTC+8).
That means today for US people, Aug 30, at 23:00 (11PM) Eastern Daylight Time for the USA.

The last sale lasted less than an hour - so be ready and create your userid etc before buying online.

Or you can get from resellers like Eastshore company in China.

They are also sellers in ebay but to be honest do not use them if you dont know them personally.

They can either cheat you or sell it to you for 3 times or even 4 times Bitmain retail price.

The L3+ are quite a performer and enjoying good profitability currently so the perceived value of this miner is more than an ounce of gold literally. It will be difficult to find any sellers in open market.

I have one (late May batch?)

I'm one the fence about getting a 2nd.

Here is an interesting forecast: https://steemit.com/litecoin/@xbm/litecoin-difficulty-forecast            It's already low compared to where LTC is now.

 Buying more 1080 ti's is the opposing argument. So if you use a 1080 ti justification, an L3+ costs around 2 1080 ti's . So lets say $7/day. This doesn't include $2/day for power. I don't have a good feel for what the adoption rate for LTC will be. The (major) plus side of the 1080 is it's resale value. Especially since deliveries look slow for the follow on GPU's.

So it doesn't look like an L3+ makes sense.

Food for thought for sure, but even if an L3+ rakes in 8 LTC in Nov, that's still $500/mo at current prices, and thats just straight mining, which as I understand, is severely less profitable than selling that hash through nicehash.  We will see in about an hour what the price for Nov batch is but it seems it should be in the 1300 range.  At that price, you're looking at likely ROI in 2-3 months, again, not using nicehash.

True about the better resale value of Ti's but I"m not hugely impressed that they are only really effective on a couple of algos. Certainly, if ZEC and a few others that it excels at keep hot, it might be a good way to diversify.

[QuintLeo]

Phil, have you seen this board?

Specs:
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.onda.cn%2FMotherBoard_Specifications.aspx%3Fid%3D369&edit-text=&act=url

 Intel SoC design, but the spec on it claims it only has 4 PCI-E 2.0 lanes (and it doesn't USE a "chipset" so it's not able to gain any from that).

 I'd guess they're using a multiplexer chip to get the extra lanes for the M.2 socket some of the PCI-E sockets.


 Spacing is a bit tight, but doesn't look much if any worse than most "2-5-7" motherboards between the first 2 cards.

[GabryRox]

Well, on 2nd thought, since Bitmain is asking $1,870 for this Nov batch L3+, I will be ordering zero instead of the 2-3 I was considering at a reasonable 1300-1400 price point.  I might kick myself later but that's just a bit too risky for me.  Oh well, back to the drawing board lol.

[TheRider]

Well, on 2nd thought, since Bitmain is asking $1,870 for this Nov batch L3+, I will be ordering zero instead of the 2-3 I was considering at a reasonable 1300-1400 price point.  I might kick myself later but that's just a bit too risky for me.  Oh well, back to the drawing board lol.

Ditto. Can't even get to the damn page, and I'm only 56ms RTT away...

[QuintLeo]

Don't matter what your normal ping is when they flat out don't have the bandwidth to handle the load when they put out a new batch.