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August 03, 2017, 04:30:52 AM
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Going to be lots of screaming about inside trading.

I see lots and lots and lots of litigation against bittrex for not allowing bcc deposits but allowing trading of bcc for other coins.

I see lawsuits against coinbase for not crediting bcc to those that held btc there.

I also see wild times coming this was a huge money grab by bittrex by not allowing deposits of bcc .

Any exchange that did not take bcc deposits but allowed bcc trading is going to worry about being sued.

Oh well.

I think even if you were allowed to deposit into there the blocks are so few and far in between that it would take quite a while to transfer into there.  Hopefully the difficulty adjusts soon.  Plus once you can deposit in there that might open the floodgates for people to dump on there as well.


To be clear it is not an issue to me that they are blocking deposits of bcc.

It is an issue that they are allowing trading of bcc while blocking deposits of bcc.

I am not the government but it looks like they set the company up to get sued by doing this.

1) They knew they would have bcc on hand.

2) They knew they would block deposits .

3) They knew they would allow trading of that bcc for other coins .

This is a perfect setup for insider trading.  1,2,3 are all facts.

They are a USA company.  While not a stock it has been ruled a commodity type asset by the IRS .

Lawsuits are different then criminal statues.  A lawsuit can be won by proponderance of the evidence
While a criminal case needs to be a reasonable doubt .

So A lawsuit 51 percent chance is good
While a criminal  let's say 95 percent is reason able.

If you look at 1 plus 2 plus 3. You only need to show workers, owners ,friends or relatives of bittrex had coins there to win a lawsuit.


This is a big time fuckup.  
Also btc-e was crushed by the Feds a day or two before this happened.

Check the trading of bcc on bittrex well over. 180 not  60 million usd. Not good.
Poor decision any one with bcc not deposit able  can take a shot at any USA exchange that did this.

I see a huge fucking mess oh well.

At least I cashed a lot of btc in July

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August 03, 2017, 05:43:26 AM
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Did the Bitttrex block BTC withdrawals ?
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August 03, 2017, 06:09:20 AM
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Did the Bitttrex block BTC withdrawals ?


Nope I withdrew some btc today, thier not blocking anything right now , btc or bcc, but if you try and withdraw or deposit bcc it would take days.

I dont see how you can logically compare btc-e with bittrexx lol ? Btce e had a cofounder who was part of the team that hacked mtgox and stole 700k btc , basically billions then was able to launder it through cash via a btce directley into thier hotwallet which means the owners of Btce were basically his partners and thus complicit

also btce had no id verification or anything and was commonly used to luander btc from the silk road and dark net into roubles or usd.

I can list ten more actions they did that cuased then to be shit down , plus Its a russia vs usa thing going on as well so they were caught up in that as well.

what bittrexx did sucks but you never would have got your bcc there in time to take advantage of the pump in any case , that alone would probably exonerate them from any dumb lawsuit , plus they clearly states that they would credit and btc to bcc on 1 to 1 basis if you got your btc into thier exchange befor July 29

not sure what all the butthurt is about, win some you lose some in crypto, pply whining should have kept thier bcc on the exchange of they wanted to profit, but they chose safety of personal wallets to the exhange its a tradeoff you have to take.  If btc had had a bad fork or huge bugs messed up bittrexx back end etc and ppls btc got lost or stuck the shoe would been on the other foot smh

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August 03, 2017, 06:30:12 AM
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where is my damn BCH you assholes every other exchange has credited

LOL , well at least they responded, bittrexx or polo would have ignored this for days

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August 03, 2017, 09:07:29 AM
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Philip

Did the Bitttrex block BTC withdrawals ?


Nope I withdrew some btc today, thier not blocking anything right now , btc or bcc, but if you try and withdraw or deposit bcc it would take days.

I dont see how you can logically compare btc-e with bittrexx lol ? Btce e had a cofounder who was part of the team that hacked mtgox and stole 700k btc , basically billions then was able to launder it through cash via a btce directley into thier hotwallet which means the owners of Btce were basically his partners and thus complicit

also btce had no id verification or anything and was commonly used to luander btc from the silk road and dark net into roubles or usd.

I can list ten more actions they did that cuased then to be shit down , plus Its a russia vs usa thing going on as well so they were caught up in that as well.

what bittrexx did sucks but you never would have got your bcc there in time to take advantage of the pump in any case , that alone would probably exonerate them from any dumb lawsuit , plus they clearly states that they would credit and btc to bcc on 1 to 1 basis if you got your btc into thier exchange befor July 29

not sure what all the butthurt is about, win some you lose some in crypto, pply whining should have kept thier bcc on the exchange of they wanted to profit, but they chose safety of personal wallets to the exhange its a tradeoff you have to take.  If btc had had a bad fork or huge bugs messed up bittrexx back end etc and ppls btc got lost or stuck the shoe would been on the other foot smh


they have setup a class action lawsuit against their exchange.  anyone that had an account and had btc anywhere but in their exchange would have a shot at them.

worse then then this is  problem is well all just watched BTC lose all it integrity as a stable tradable commodity .

but  none of it matters   all that matters is enough people continue to believe in the  value of the coin.

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August 03, 2017, 11:54:13 AM
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sorry for off topic, anyone know if Simplemining will add soon the feature to manage different miners/bats from the same dashboard ?
It seems the new dashboard still don't allow that.
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Going to be lots of screaming about inside trading.

I see lots and lots and lots of litigation against bittrex for not allowing bcc deposits but allowing trading of bcc for other coins.

I see lawsuits against coinbase for not crediting bcc to those that held btc there.

I also see wild times coming this was a huge money grab by bittrex by not allowing deposits of bcc .

Any exchange that did not take bcc deposits but allowed bcc trading is going to worry about being sued.

Oh well.

I think even if you were allowed to deposit into there the blocks are so few and far in between that it would take quite a while to transfer into there.  Hopefully the difficulty adjusts soon.  Plus once you can deposit in there that might open the floodgates for people to dump on there as well.


To be clear it is not an issue to me that they are blocking deposits of bcc.

It is an issue that they are allowing trading of bcc while blocking deposits of bcc.

I am not the government but it looks like they set the company up to get sued by doing this.

1) They knew they would have bcc on hand.

2) They knew they would block deposits .

3) They knew they would allow trading of that bcc for other coins .

This is a perfect setup for insider trading.  1,2,3 are all facts.

They are a USA company.  While not a stock it has been ruled a commodity type asset by the IRS .

Lawsuits are different then criminal statues.  A lawsuit can be won by proponderance of the evidence
While a criminal case needs to be a reasonable doubt .

So A lawsuit 51 percent chance is good
While a criminal  let's say 95 percent is reason able.

If you look at 1 plus 2 plus 3. You only need to show workers, owners ,friends or relatives of bittrex had coins there to win a lawsuit.


This is a big time fuckup.  
Also btc-e was crushed by the Feds a day or two before this happened.

Check the trading of bcc on bittrex well over. 180 not  60 million usd. Not good.
Poor decision any one with bcc not deposit able  can take a shot at any USA exchange that did this.

I see a huge fucking mess oh well.

At least I cashed a lot of btc in July


Good point ...
After leaving Poloniex, people should not count too much on Bittrex to ensure safety .. we don't know what's comming soon ...

But where to leave the small altcoins ?? even Jaxx or the very useful ledger nano S doesn't handle more than a few cryptos. I don't where to let them sleep safe.
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Going to be lots of screaming about inside trading.

I see lots and lots and lots of litigation against bittrex for not allowing bcc deposits but allowing trading of bcc for other coins.

I see lawsuits against coinbase for not crediting bcc to those that held btc there.

I also see wild times coming this was a huge money grab by bittrex by not allowing deposits of bcc .

Any exchange that did not take bcc deposits but allowed bcc trading is going to worry about being sued.

Oh well.

I think even if you were allowed to deposit into there the blocks are so few and far in between that it would take quite a while to transfer into there.  Hopefully the difficulty adjusts soon.  Plus once you can deposit in there that might open the floodgates for people to dump on there as well.


To be clear it is not an issue to me that they are blocking deposits of bcc.

It is an issue that they are allowing trading of bcc while blocking deposits of bcc.

I am not the government but it looks like they set the company up to get sued by doing this.

1) They knew they would have bcc on hand.

2) They knew they would block deposits .

3) They knew they would allow trading of that bcc for other coins .

This is a perfect setup for insider trading.  1,2,3 are all facts.

They are a USA company.  While not a stock it has been ruled a commodity type asset by the IRS .

Lawsuits are different then criminal statues.  A lawsuit can be won by proponderance of the evidence
While a criminal case needs to be a reasonable doubt .

So A lawsuit 51 percent chance is good
While a criminal  let's say 95 percent is reason able.

If you look at 1 plus 2 plus 3. You only need to show workers, owners ,friends or relatives of bittrex had coins there to win a lawsuit.


This is a big time fuckup.  
Also btc-e was crushed by the Feds a day or two before this happened.

Check the trading of bcc on bittrex well over. 180 not  60 million usd. Not good.
Poor decision any one with bcc not deposit able  can take a shot at any USA exchange that did this.

I see a huge fucking mess oh well.

At least I cashed a lot of btc in July


Good point ...
After leaving Poloniex, people should not count too much on Bittrex to ensure safety .. we don't know what's comming soon ...

But where to leave the small altcoins ?? even Jaxx or the very useful ledger nano S doesn't handle more than a few cryptos. I don't where to let them sleep safe.

I am going to build  some wallet pc's  that will only handle coins and nothing else.
I am just not ready to do this but it will happen.

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August 03, 2017, 04:14:31 PM
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Looks like Bittrex is taking BCC deposits now

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August 03, 2017, 04:24:52 PM
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Looks like Bittrex is taking BCC deposits now

good I have been  doing the slow  setup for this.

old core to new core  

 is partly done.  

Slow process so far. as I am being careful about it.

viabtc.com  may also be taking  bcc

they may also have a safe wallet.

so if you have emptied your core   you could use the key for the address  to do the transfer.

my old core  had :

1 address with 0.03 btc +  0.03 bcc in theory
1 address with 8.07 btc  + 8.07 bcc in theory


each address should have a different key  soooo if I do the small one and it works  the big one should work

8 bcc is over 8 x .17 = 1.36  btc  or 3788 usd




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August 03, 2017, 04:48:32 PM
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I am going to build  some wallet pc's  that will only handle coins and nothing else.
I am just not ready to do this but it will happen.

I got a used Lenovo M2 i5 tower to host all my QT and HD wallets recently.

Trezor will do the heavy lifting like BTC, DASH, ETH, LTC and ZEC.

Everything else will go to the M2.

Once you get yours done, please do advise on how to protect the PC as practical of possible (equivalent to Timemachine method if possible). I am eyeing on a used MacMini too for the same wallet central but not all wallets support IOS although you can install a Windows VM under IOS but that's getting complicated.

Looking forward to you best practices for this.

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August 03, 2017, 04:52:32 PM
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I have just opened an account with www.cryptopia.co.nz, a cryto-currency exchange based in New Zealand.

I have emptied my Coinbase and Poloniex accounts (bye-bye), and moved them to this non-US crypto-exchange.

I however still need the Bitrex account which for limited use.

This is not an endorsement of Cryptopia but its one of the ones I like most after an extensive research of an alternative crypto exchange far far away from hairy arms of you know who...  Grin
lol you know that Btc-e was a russian exchange right? and they still shut it down
thinking your money is safe on any single exchange is madness, I have 4 different exchanges where I trade and
only keep assets Im actively trading out there.  Cryptsy taught me well 😂😂

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August 03, 2017, 04:55:05 PM
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I have just opened an account with www.cryptopia.co.nz, a cryto-currency exchange based in New Zealand.

I have emptied my Coinbase and Poloniex accounts (bye-bye), and moved them to this non-US crypto-exchange.

I however still need the Bitrex account which for limited use.

This is not an endorsement of Cryptopia but its one of the ones I like most after an extensive research of an alternative crypto exchange far far away from hairy arms of you know who...  Grin
lol you know that Btc-e was a russian exchange right? and they still shut it down
thinking your money is safe on any single exchange is madness, I have 4 different exchanges where I trade and
only keep assets Im actively trading out there.  Cryptsy taught me well 😂😂

90 percent of coins on your own wallets 10 percent in exchanges

or a similar ratio is good.

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August 03, 2017, 05:02:32 PM
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I have just opened an account with www.cryptopia.co.nz, a cryto-currency exchange based in New Zealand.

I have emptied my Coinbase and Poloniex accounts (bye-bye), and moved them to this non-US crypto-exchange.

I however still need the Bitrex account which for limited use.

This is not an endorsement of Cryptopia but its one of the ones I like most after an extensive research of an alternative crypto exchange far far away from hairy arms of you know who...  Grin
lol you know that Btc-e was a russian exchange right? and they still shut it down
thinking your money is safe on any single exchange is madness, I have 4 different exchanges where I trade and
only keep assets Im actively trading out there.  Cryptsy taught me well 😂😂

90 percent of coins on your own wallets 10 percent in exchanges

or a similar ratio is good.

99% wallets on my M2 and Trezor.

Cryptopia and Bitrex for trading.... I barely have more than 1 BTC at anytime on exchanges.
All coins are transferred to the M2 PC right away.
Most of my alt-coins besides whats on Trezors are POS and dividend paying coins.

@vg54dett - have you seen EXODUS wallet?

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August 03, 2017, 05:07:35 PM
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Guys!!

When will we see the "FLOOD" of GPUs onto Ebay etc? I think we have talked about this for a while, but im waiting and waiting for my cheap GPUs  Huh Shocked Angry Angry
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August 03, 2017, 05:12:33 PM
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Guys!!

When will we see the "FLOOD" of GPUs onto Ebay etc? I think we have talked about this for a while, but im waiting and waiting for my cheap GPUs  Huh Shocked Angry Angry

I am keen on used 1070s at below AMD pricing  Grin

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August 03, 2017, 05:45:45 PM
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@citronick

What's your opinion on P106-100 cards? I can finally get them, would love to hear your opinion. It's the Gigabyte version of the card.

edit - this one https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-NP106D5-6G-rev-11#kf

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August 03, 2017, 05:54:16 PM
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Going to be lots of screaming about inside trading.

I see lots and lots and lots of litigation against bittrex for not allowing bcc deposits but allowing trading of bcc for other coins.

I see lawsuits against coinbase for not crediting bcc to those that held btc there.

I also see wild times coming this was a huge money grab by bittrex by not allowing deposits of bcc .

Any exchange that did not take bcc deposits but allowed bcc trading is going to worry about being sued.

Oh well.

I think even if you were allowed to deposit into there the blocks are so few and far in between that it would take quite a while to transfer into there.  Hopefully the difficulty adjusts soon.  Plus once you can deposit in there that might open the floodgates for people to dump on there as well.


To be clear it is not an issue to me that they are blocking deposits of bcc.

It is an issue that they are allowing trading of bcc while blocking deposits of bcc.

I am not the government but it looks like they set the company up to get sued by doing this.

1) They knew they would have bcc on hand.

2) They knew they would block deposits .

3) They knew they would allow trading of that bcc for other coins .

This is a perfect setup for insider trading.  1,2,3 are all facts.

They are a USA company.  While not a stock it has been ruled a commodity type asset by the IRS .

Lawsuits are different then criminal statues.  A lawsuit can be won by proponderance of the evidence
While a criminal case needs to be a reasonable doubt .

So A lawsuit 51 percent chance is good
While a criminal  let's say 95 percent is reason able.

If you look at 1 plus 2 plus 3. You only need to show workers, owners ,friends or relatives of bittrex had coins there to win a lawsuit.


This is a big time fuckup.  
Also btc-e was crushed by the Feds a day or two before this happened.

Check the trading of bcc on bittrex well over. 180 not  60 million usd. Not good.
Poor decision any one with bcc not deposit able  can take a shot at any USA exchange that did this.

I see a huge fucking mess oh well.

At least I cashed a lot of btc in July


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If you have a Bitcoin (BTC) balance on Bittrex during the BCC UAHF time on August 1st, 5:20am PT (12:20pm UTC), you will be additionally credited the equivalent amount of Bitcoin Cash (BCC) on a 1:1 basis. i.e. 1 BTC on Bittrex held during the on-exchange snapshot will get you 1 BCC.  BTC held on orders will also be credited.  Only the BTC held on your account is eligible for BCC.  Full details below.

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August 03, 2017, 05:59:06 PM
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Did the Bitttrex block BTC withdrawals ?


Nope I withdrew some btc today, thier not blocking anything right now , btc or bcc, but if you try and withdraw or deposit bcc it would take days.

I dont see how you can logically compare btc-e with bittrexx lol ? Btce e had a cofounder who was part of the team that hacked mtgox and stole 700k btc , basically billions then was able to launder it through cash via a btce directley into thier hotwallet which means the owners of Btce were basically his partners and thus complicit

also btce had no id verification or anything and was commonly used to luander btc from the silk road and dark net into roubles or usd.

I can list ten more actions they did that cuased then to be shit down , plus Its a russia vs usa thing going on as well so they were caught up in that as well.

what bittrexx did sucks but you never would have got your bcc there in time to take advantage of the pump in any case , that alone would probably exonerate them from any dumb lawsuit , plus they clearly states that they would credit and btc to bcc on 1 to 1 basis if you got your btc into thier exchange befor July 29

not sure what all the butthurt is about, win some you lose some in crypto, pply whining should have kept thier bcc on the exchange of they wanted to profit, but they chose safety of personal wallets to the exhange its a tradeoff you have to take.  If btc had had a bad fork or huge bugs messed up bittrexx back end etc and ppls btc got lost or stuck the shoe would been on the other foot smh

Hallo Smiley

I'm not sure if we were discussing BTC-E so I'm a bit lost with your reply.

Btw.
You have nothing in your hands against BTC-E or Vinik or what is guys name so I'm not sure what are you trying to say.

Believing USA and it's agencies Huh?
Are you having a laugh or are you considering me being retarded Huh?
lol.
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